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Will June be able to recruit well enough to overcome

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the fact that she is not, well how can I put it delicately, a can win with less coach? Am I the only one who puts on the game only to turn my head away after a few minutes? We all know that if the big two can hit their shots the Cougs can beat just about anybody, but can we run something other than an a Lia/Tia iso, or screen at the top of the key. Against the big kids, they need help. They are struggling because every Pac-12 now knows what is coming and are ready. With a little imagination we could be 4-1 instead of 1-4. Case in point, against OSU, Tia/Lia were 14-40/3-12, the rest of the team was 14-32 and 2-4. With a hand full of plays to take advantage of Tia/Lia defensive overplay, we win. Stanford was the same thing, Tia/Lia were 13-35/3-9, the rest of the team was 13-24/5-7. The problem I see, is that imagination just isn't there. Look how Ermie played two different offenses in back to back games one to neuralize size and one to tire a short bench team. Have you seen anything remotely like that out of June? This was supposed to be "the team" seven years in the making, and it is 1-4 in Pac-12 play.
 
Whole-heartedly agree. Would love to see these women playing ball after a couple of months of EK coaching. The passing and off-ball movement would be so much better, and way less one-on-one dribbling into a double team, cough up the ball- routine we see way too often now. Presley is the biggest proponent of that particular move during crunch time.
 
June D is a great recruiter. The problem is with coaching.I have said for a long time that they need to make hubby a team administrator and hire a bench coach who can really coach.Otherwise what you see now in results will be as good as it ever will be with the current coaches,no matter what the talent level is.
 
Originally posted by Cougsocal:

the fact that she is not, well how can I put it delicately, a can win with less coach? Am I the only one who puts on the game only to turn my head away after a few minutes? We all know that if the big two can hit their shots the Cougs can beat just about anybody, but can we run something other than an a Lia/Tia iso, or screen at the top of the key. Against the big kids, they need help. They are struggling because every Pac-12 now knows what is coming and are ready. With a little imagination we could be 4-1 instead of 1-4. Case in point, against OSU, Tia/Lia were 14-40/3-12, the rest of the team was 14-32 and 2-4. With a hand full of plays to take advantage of Tia/Lia defensive overplay, we win. Stanford was the same thing, Tia/Lia were 13-35/3-9, the rest of the team was 13-24/5-7. The problem I see, is that imagination just isn't there. Look how Ermie played two different offenses in back to back games one to neuralize size and one to tire a short bench team. Have you seen anything remotely like that out of June? This was supposed to be "the team" seven years in the making, and it is 1-4 in Pac-12 play.
It's hard to disagree with any of this. It's probably why the Ewe decided to go a different direction.
 
First possession of the game Tia comes down and 5 seconds into the shot clock takes a 3. Next possession out of backcourt Awa to Lia and she holds the ball and then takes a step back 3 10 seconds into the shot clock. Far too much 1-on-5 going on. I don't see much of a game plan other than playing into the 'Tia and Lia show' thing.

June can recruit and lead a program but ElC is correct. They need to add a bench coach that can actually put together a game plan to take advantage of our talent if they want to win more games. They were up 16! in the 2nd half against the #9 team in the country and managed to let it slip away.

The schedule to start conference was brutal. ASU, Cal, Stanford, OSU all in a row but there is no question they kicked at least 2 of those games away (Cal/OSU) and Stanford was a terrible defensive game plan. How many times did they end up leaving Bonnie Samuelson wide open for a 3?
 
It does make me frustrated occasionally with some of their shot selection and clock management, but this team and program is far superior to anything WSU has seen in 20 plus years. They also are primed to just as good or better next year.

Lets face it we are competitive with the top teams in the country. I have no idea how we lost that game at OSU but they are a top 10 team. The start of the schedule was brutal, we could have and probably should have gotten 1 or two of those games but I think you will see more wins now.
 
Originally posted by jourdand:


It does make me frustrated occasionally with some of their shot selection and clock management, but this team and program is far superior to anything WSU has seen in 20 plus years. They also are primed to just as good or better next year.

Lets face it we are competitive with the top teams in the country. I have no idea how we lost that game at OSU but they are a top 10 team. The start of the schedule was brutal, we could have and probably should have gotten 1 or two of those games but I think you will see more wins now.
Agree and there really is no comparison to the level the program is at now compared to Murrell back but expectations have gone up with it. It's not a talent issue but we should be better than 1-4 at this point even with the schedule. We were better than OSU last night other than the final score and that's all that really counts. How do we account for letting that game slip away?
 
Originally posted by SaveFerris:
Originally posted by jourdand:


It does make me frustrated occasionally with some of their shot selection and clock management, but this team and program is far superior to anything WSU has seen in 20 plus years. They also are primed to just as good or better next year.

Lets face it we are competitive with the top teams in the country. I have no idea how we lost that game at OSU but they are a top 10 team. The start of the schedule was brutal, we could have and probably should have gotten 1 or two of those games but I think you will see more wins now.
Agree and there really is no comparison to the level the program is at now compared to Murrell back but expectations have gone up with it. It's not a talent issue but we should be better than 1-4 at this point even with the schedule. We were better than OSU last night other than the final score and that's all that really counts. How do we account for letting that game slip away?
We could always go back to the Jenny P daze.
 
Here is how they lost that game

Going down the stretch, Lia was trying to do it all, but she was clearly out of gas. And on the other end,OSU got a good inside/outside game going. WSU doesn't have anyone who can stop their 6'6" giant one on one, and yet WSU never double-teamed her. The beavs do have a couple of good outside shooters, but it looked to me like if another inside defender were to slide over to the giant every time she caught the ball and made her give it up, it would have limited their late scoring some. On offense, June should have seen that Lia was gassed and used her as a decoy to set up an open shot for someone else.The end of that game was very frustrating that they kept doing the same things on both offense and defense even though they weren't working.

Does anyone know what Dheensaw's status is?
 
Re: Here is how they lost that game

Originally posted by GS75:
Going down the stretch, Lia was trying to do it all, but she was clearly out of gas. And on the other end,OSU got a good inside/outside game going. WSU doesn't have anyone who can stop their 6'6" giant one on one, and yet WSU never double-teamed her. The beavs do have a couple of good outside shooters, but it looked to me like if another inside defender were to slide over to the giant every time she caught the ball and made her give it up, it would have limited their late scoring some. On offense, June should have seen that Lia was gassed and used her as a decoy to set up an open shot for someone else.The end of that game was very frustrating that they kept doing the same things on both offense and defense even though they weren't working.

Does anyone know what Dheensaw's status is?
Lia needs to kick it out on some of those drives.She draws everyone to her, so someone has to be open. Dheensaw's injury was to her right knee, I believe.

This post was edited on 1/18 2:35 PM by YakiCoug
 
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