good luck with that. They already tried to big time us once when they tried to make this a neutral site game in Seattle.
I don’t think it will get boycotted per se. I do think there’s enough folks who would normally attend that are not going to. And this for a game that never sold out anyways. As for UW fans, this is pretty quickly going to turn into the equivalent of an off campus game against Eastern. They will lose interest rather quickly imo. This is not the Apple Cup if it plays out this way. The Apple cup is dead. Only way for this thing to have that juice is if Cougs stay P5 and can actually be competitive in the game and if the game is played on both campuses.
If we need cash, then go get it. Body bag games will pay more than this.
Did you read Schulz's letter? It reads as though he's steering us towards the bottom of D1 football, but hey keep showing up and paying $150/ ticket to watch the Cougs get their teeth kicked in at a body bag game in Seattle!
$5 million seems a bit optimistic. If the stadium fills at $100/ticket, that's 7 million total. Plus whatever TV money we will get.
UW isn't sharing - they didn't leave the conference to continue to give us D1 welfare. And they can get any other non-con cupcake to fill that slot for cheap, so the only way that game actually happens is if we allow it to. In spite of what anyone at UW, WSU, or his royal highness in Olympia says, no one gives a flying fck about the Apple Cup unless its a sweetheart deal for the mutts.
Couple things. It ain’t gonna sell out. Also, 100% of ticket revenue isn’t going to the schools. Or probably better said there are costs to playing the game as well that need to be factored in. I don’t know what the sliding scale of $ looks like that actually makes it back to the schools.
Yep, just putting some numbers out there. This is a bad idea, and we would probably lose as much in donations as we would get for the game. And what network will televise this? Not the Big 10's. Probably the Pac-12 network (if it still exists) at 7:30. Speaking of, where do we go with that? I have no idea what the dollars look like. Can it be shrunk down to just televise live FB and some BB games and be a blank screen the rest of the time? Cost savings vs revenue declines from the networks?
P12 conference owns the P12 network. Why would the network exist to televise a conference that doesn't exist?
Do they? Genuinely curious. I can't find good numbers other than seeing that, e.g., BYU got $1.1m for going on the road to play Oregon last year, and a few anecdotes about some schools paying closer to $2m for some home games with G of 5s this year.
Again....I don't like it, but we need the cash. If our donors stepped up to give them same amount of money not to play the game, then money talks.....otherwise, it's what we need to do to keep our budget full.
Oh Bleed, Bleed, Bleed. We are talking about 2024, when there WILL be a Pac2. With 2 teams, the network has little material. Us and OSU. Football when someone else doesn't pick us up, Basketball. And that's it. Dark the rest of the year. Remember when TV stations used to sign off at 1 or 2 AM?
No. What if we split? Who is Pac-2 champ? I am 95, 96, 97% certain this won't happen.
Because our fans suck. We boycott our Pullman home games. 23K fans vs Cal on Homecoming last year. Maybe 25K this year. How many do you think will turn out vs. Stanford and Colorado in our Cougs vs. Everybody season?
Do grown ups who do business things typically go into business with partners that have already screwed them over?
Uh no. There is this funny thing called Title IX. Which started with a lawsuit by WSU Women's coaches BTW. We are already 53% male athletes, so we are on the fringes as it is. 14 teams is the minimum to remain Division 1 (not talking P5 here, just Division 1 period). We have 15 teams. We can't cut any sports.
Yeah - the grownups have done such a good job over the last year with those business decisions.
Business decisions made by other institutions that ultimately F’d us over…now people want to turn around and shake hands and do new deals with them? F that!
What do you think Schulz could have done differently, and why do you think UW screwed us over? They’re guilty of not giving a chit about us, yes, but they’re far better off being aligned with Oregon than they are with WSU. Sorry if that hurts.
When we had the $30 million ESPN deal on the table, Schulz was in the room. He and all his Athletic experience. Saying no to that deal f-ed us. He should have been screaming "take it". But he is a wimp.
You'd have to cut mens golf or something to keep the numbers in balance....but the point is, non-revenue sports need to be funded by TV and gate revenue. I don't think the economics of a body bag game equate to the gate and TV revenue...plus the economic impact the Apple Cup has on Pullman every 2 years. The game will be played whether fans like it or not.
SEC and ACC play 8 conference games so they need a lot of OOC opponents but I expect them to go up to 9 and possibly 10 with the massive TV contracts so the demand for OOC opponents is going to go down along with the amount you’ll get paid.
Regarding Utah vs. BYU, this is relevant. (Also has at least some potential implications for any Big 12 dreams still floating around.)
big12sports.com
Regarding Utah vs. BYU, this is relevant. (Also has at least some potential implications for any Big 12 dreams still floating around.)
Big 12 Announces Football Scheduling Matrix for 2024-2027 Seasons
The Big 12 Conference has announced its 16-team, four-year scheduling matrix for the 2024-27 football seasons. The scheduling model was developed with a priority on geography, historic matchups and rivalries as well as competitive balance.
Yet we’d be in such a better spot if we were on that schedule.
WSU is a state school funded mainly by Husky grads. That’s why this game will be played in Lumen Field.
Uh, yeah, the middle finger. One AC payday (let's see how the numbers compare to a body bag game) does not solve our problems. This is the worst F-ing thing Charlie Chun could possibly entertain.
You keep making this disgraceful reference to Chun, and people on here, for whatever reason, allow you to get away with it.
Oh stop Karen. Charlie Chan was a really smart guy - there is no insult, in fact it is a compliment, to refer to Chun in that manner. Chun should be fired. So should Schulz.
I don't personally care what you say, but this isn't funny. Nor were your jokes about sleeping with underage girls. I'm surprised that the other people on here who you exchange political messages with give you a free pass on it. You're not a young kid.
I have never made a joke about sleeping with underage girls. Where the F do you get that? Show me my post(s) saying that. Bullshit.
That’s ridiculous. You know those arrogant pricks don’t tip.
