Brand new staff needed

[95coug]

The OL was not exactly lighting it up either. Once you saw Thibedoux regularly in our backfield shouldn’t it trigger a response to get another body to assist.
I would think a convo between Smith and OL coach would take place and some type of adjustments are implemented.

Rather than keeping another body to block, you switch up your play calling. Try running. Throw shorter routes. Stop sending every route 12 yards to the sideline, make them 5-7 yards, right into the space the pass rush just vacated.
When your QB is already rattled and having accuracy issues, don’t send him on sprint rollouts to throw. Give him quick slants and let him get some completions, negate the rush and build some confidence.

 

[CougEd]

No playing to lose by less. No Wullf. No Dickert.

What was the decision that got you all wound up?

 

[CougPatrol]

What was the decision that got you all wound up?

He’s mad that we didn’t go for it on 4th down(s).

 

[CougEd]

Mike Leach would run the wishbone before he rolled a 50% passer onto the field.

taihtsat

Correct we have never seen mike leach stay with something that doesn’t work ….

 

[CougEd]

He’s mad that we didn’t go for it on 4th down(s).

Oh 4th and three middle of 4th quarter on our side of the 50? With time outs and kicking ball deep it gave us a chance .

 

[CougEd]

It is absolutely terrible coaching. You cannot allow a kick return. Why on earth if given the choice between choosing where a team starts by kicking out the endzone OR allowing them to advance the ball… would you choose allowing them to advance the ball??? And if you dont have a kid that can kick the ball out of the endzone, get one. At this point it has cost WSU too many wins. Cal, UCLA, Mike Price calling RJ Soward the “Cougar Killer.” Holy tap dancing Moses. End the mickey mouse circus! The best athlete of 50 some 4 star athletes at Oregon against the backups at WSU covering him. Did no one learn anything from two years ago when Leach lost to Oregon cause they kicked to the 3???

Fuc$ing middle school PE teachers. These guys are dumb.

Coaching decisions have an impact short and long term . We can’t go out to the free agency market and get a kicker to bang it in the end zone. My guess is it is about execution as it was the call ?

 

[FnuLnu]

What was the decision that got you all wound up?

Paul Wulff's Punt To Win philosophy lead to a win last night. (Idaho State used a Jim Walden punt return)
Baldwin & Wulff are now 2-12 at Cal Poly.

 

[CougEd]

No half arse, half price solutions. Bring is someone with a vision and let him choose. Dickert is too close to the change in guard. Start clean.

How do you know Dickert is too close to change the “guard” ? Are you saying because Doba didn’t make the right changes he won’t? What evidence do you have. He may have a different idea what we should run. .

What made chip successful at Oregon is he purged Robin Pfkugrad and brought in his own recruiting coordinator . P

 

[CougPatrol]

How many adjustments, particularly on offense, is Dickert expected to make against a team of Oregon’s caliber? We lost most of the offensive staff a few weeks ago. Dickert was the defensive coordinator a few weeks ago. The offensive line got handled. JDL didn’t play well and was rattled. Our starting center was out. Honestly, I’m proud of the team for fighting as hard as they did. They have guts.

We’ll see how we do the next 2 weeks. Arizona is an improving team and UW always beats us. Win the next 2 games and Dickert will have matched Leach’s best ever P12N finish and tied him in Apple Cup wins. Still a lot to play for.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Correct we have never seen mike leach stay with something that doesn’t work ….

To the tune of this poorly? Correct. He fired a special teams coach at halftime.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Coaching decisions have an impact short and long term . We can’t go out ob free agency abs get a kicker to bang it in the end zone. My guess is it is about execution as it was the call ?

Then coach better or recruit better. It’s fuc$ing almost 2022. Why are teams still allowing an opponent to advance the ball when they have control over whether they do or not??

 

[CougEd]

Then coach better or recruit better. It’s fuc$ing almost 2022. Why are teams still allowing an opponent to advance the ball when they have control over whether they do or not??

Cause they can’t sign a free agent to kick the ball through the end zone.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Cause they can’t sign a free agent to kick the ball through the end zone.

Of course. You have to make a decision that this is how you are going to coach. Then go get him.

 

[jarvis1981]

Will be interesting to see how the team , the coaches and JDL do in the next two games.
7-5 is a real possibility and a bowl berth.
Get this next one against an improving UA team. They will, however, have to endure the November weather in Pullman. I hope it's 90 degrees in Arizona the day of their flight.

The coach states that he is in the interview process right now. Fair enough. Let's see how the interview ends before making any major decision. Also agree that there will be other good candidates when the time comes.

 

[BSpike76]

Well, Lake is now officially available.

Darn, I was hoping he’d stick around for the AC. Their other coaches weren’t that great, though.

 

[Coug-Vandal]

For what its worth I was at the game. My overwhelming impression was that the Ducks are simply a lot better team than I (or most people on this list) realized. Yes JDL had a bad game but our O-line and our D-line were simply dominated in the 2nd half. We could have easily been ahead at the half and the Duck fans were plenty worried but I think their lines were so dominate that they would have eventually pulled it out. I don't think the Ducks are losing to anybody in the Pac-12 and they will be in the playoffs. If we can win the next two games we will get a decent bowl bid and I will certainly call this a successful year despite everything.

 

[CougSinceBirth]

Chun whiffed on Rolo no question. But this team is still going to be bowling and he’s got a chance to make it right. Considering the overall state of Cougar athletics and the other great hires he’s made including Smith who’s the second most important hire, he’s doing just fine. And with the flurry of extensions I doubt he’s planning on leaving. Funding is up considerably including some record donations. Name a PAC 12 AD doing a better job right now.

Martin Jarmond.

 

[roses04]

The problem is you have a staff that has been patched together after the Rolo firing, and they have only been together a short time period. While I wasn't happy with the results and performance of the Oregon game, a lot falls on the OB, JDL had a bad game, other than 2 drives, had a terrible game. His inaccuracy is a problem, hopefully it can be corrected. His inconsistency prevented the Cougs from staying in the game his ability to scramble and buy more time is great, but his ability to throw on the run is not good, which negates his mobility. So far if I am grading the current staff I would give them a B for the BYU game, and A for the ASU game and a C for the Oregon game, so a B average, they have to to better. They have to win out for me to feel good about moving forward with Dickert.

 

[BiggsCoug]

The problem is you have a staff that has been patched together after the Rolo firing, and they have only been together a short time period. While I wasn't happy with the results and performance of the Oregon game, a lot falls on the OB, JDL had a bad game, other than 2 drives, had a terrible game. His inaccuracy is a problem, hopefully it can be corrected. His inconsistency prevented the Cougs from staying in the game his ability to scramble and buy more time is great, but his ability to throw on the run is not good, which negates his mobility. So far if I am grading the current staff I would give them a B for the BYU game, and A for the ASU game and a C for the Oregon game, so a B average, they have to to better. They have to win out for me to feel good about moving forward with Dickert.

By the time a kid gets to college he has been throwing a football since 8 years old. His accuracy is what it is. What is gonna happen in the next year that hasn’t happened in the last 12 years to make him more accurate?

His mechanics are terrible. The fact that he shows up in college with this piss poor motion shows he wasn’t coached for shit the past 10 years. “You are either coaching it or allowing it to happen.” ~ Mike Leach.

He has flashes were he throws a nice deep ball. Then he throws one in the dirt. He has flashes where he rifles a ball into a tight spot. Then he sails one over a wide open receivers head. He throws into double coverage. He can run. But he makes poor decisions with it. The turn and scramble backwards for 15 yards is bad. Tuck and run for 15 yards? We know he can do it. It doesn’t happen. Or when it does he is so indecisive with it it doesn’t work out.

JDL hasn’t been coached. Yes I know the lineage from his HS. Believe what your eyes see and don’t just see everything he does well. Be honest about his play OVERALL. Bad motion. Bad mechanics. Bad decisions with where to throw the ball means he either can’t read a defense or doesn’t care. Whoever taught him to turn and scramble and not step up into the pocket, failed. There is no way he would be on the field for Leach. He would be redshirted and then sit for 3 more years. There is no way he would finish his career at Ohio State or SC. Have you seen the kids SC has? They are light years ahead of him.

You think Im hard on him? Wtf do you think Leach would have said? 50% passer? Leach trots out the wishbone before he does that.

 

[Fab5Coug]

Well, Jay Norvell is off the list. Like Dickert, he lost on the road last night in a battle for first place in the MWC.

Only championship winners should be considered for our job. Despite the pending lawsuit with Rolovich and the debt our athletic department is in, we should still be able to come up with $7M/year for our next coach.

$7M? Did you mistype that?

 

[CougPatrol]

$7M? Did you mistype that?

No, I was being sarcastic. We have some fans that think we're going to offer $4M/year. We're not. Especially with the pending Rolovich lawsuit. We'll offer up to $3M/year, and that limits us to G5 head coaches or coordinators.

 

[wazzucougs96]

You keep Dickhert in place until Chun leaves. And Chun will leave at some point - my guess is within the next two years, maybe sooner - depends on how the Rolo stuff plays out.

As popular as Chun is with a segment of Cougar Nation, he's also equally polarizing with another faction after the Rolo/Vaxx/Sorensen situations. Go ahead and refute that statement but ignoring it is being naive.

Let the new AD make their own hire.

Why not just burn the program to the ground while you're at it?

No one cares if a dozen anti vaxxers are mad. No one should let them hold the program hostage.

 

[Fab5Coug]

It is absolutely terrible coaching. You cannot allow a kick return. Why on earth if given the choice between choosing where a team starts by kicking out the endzone OR allowing them to advance the ball… would you choose allowing them to advance the ball??? And if you dont have a kid that can kick the ball out of the endzone, get one. At this point it has cost WSU too many wins. Cal, UCLA, Mike Price calling RJ Soward the “Cougar Killer.” Holy tap dancing Moses. End the mickey mouse circus! The best athlete of 50 some 4 star athletes at Oregon against the backups at WSU covering him. Did no one learn anything from two years ago when Leach lost to Oregon cause they kicked to the 3???

Fuc$ing middle school PE teachers. These guys are dumb.

We've been saying this for decades. I think most programs say this. I've come to accept the fact, there just aren't a lot of college kids that can put it out of the back of the endzone.

 

[Fab5Coug]

No, I was being sarcastic. We have some fans that think we're going to offer $4M/year. We're not. Especially with the pending Rolovich lawsuit. We'll offer up to $3M/year, and that limits us to G5 head coaches or coordinators.

Sorry. My sarcasm meter was turned off. Carry on.

 

[roses04]

I have to agree with Fab 5, I don't think our budget is going over 3 million a year. Which limits the list, but I'd like to think you can find a quality coach for that price, just won't be a big name head coach coming from another power 5 school. Lets face it, historically we have hired head coaches from a tier below power 5, or assistants from a power 5 school, and that's what will happen here unless Dickert wins the lasts 2 games. Leach fell into our lap because of the misconception of baggage, not sure there is anyone like that out their right now. Someone mentioned Art Briles, a sex scandal is more thank just baggage, plus he is 67, a younger coach is needed.

 

[BiggsCoug]

We've been saying this for decades. I think most programs say this. I've come to accept the fact, there just aren't a lot of college kids that can put it out of the back of the endzone.

I don’t think the money is invested into the position or the coaching. Ultimately it is what it is. A kid kicking a ball as far as possible between two sidelines. This should be the easiest thing to coach in football. When you only allow 1 scholarship to it, it gets harder. When the kid has to also kick field goals, limits the pool cause it may be different kids.

 

[BiggsCoug]

No, I was being sarcastic. We have some fans that think we're going to offer $4M/year. We're not. Especially with the pending Rolovich lawsuit. We'll offer up to $3M/year, and that limits us to G5 head coaches or coordinators.

For the right coach, they will. The lawsuit is a crap argument. Enough fake news.

 

[CougPatrol]

For the right coach, they will. The lawsuit is a crap argument. Enough fake news.

I hope you're right, but I don't see (or hear) that at all. I'm not hugely connected within the booster network, but I know some people. All of them have said that WSU doesn't want to pay for a top-tier coach.

 

[CougEd]

Then coach better or recruit better. It’s fuc$ing almost 2022. Why are teams still allowing an opponent to advance the ball when they have control over whether they do or not??

You keep Dickhert in place until Chun leaves. And Chun will leave at some point - my guess is within the next two years, maybe sooner - depends on how the Rolo stuff plays out.

As popular as Chun is with a segment of Cougar Nation, he's also equally polarizing with another faction after the Rolo/Vaxx/Sorensen situations. Go ahead and refute that statement but ignoring it is being naive.

Let the new AD make their own hire.

Not sure you have to be a "pro vaxer" to think he has done a better job than Moos. Who hired the soccer and both bball coaches? Do you think he has made hiring mistakes along the lines of what Moos did?

Who is ignoring that getting vaccinated as we have done the last 60 years, just not now, has become has become a polarizing topic? And guess what, when Chun leaves that isn't changing.

The next AD will have a vaccination clause in the contract. So there are several options. One, the President at WSU leaves, and they hire someone who has a different approach when it comes to vaccinations(which I doubt) than our current Prez , two, they hire someone who has the same philosophy as Schultz (what would Floyd have done?) or three, the "pro choice" crowd simply will have to stop their support of the program. My guess it will be number 3...well the money anyway.

 

[BiggsCoug]

I hope you're right, but I don't see (or hear) that at all. I'm not hugely connected within the booster network, but I know some people. All of them have said that WSU doesn't want to pay for a top-tier coach.

Doesn’t surprise me. On a scale of 1-4, WSU’s commitment to football is a 2 on its best day.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

We've been saying this for decades. I think most programs say this. I've come to accept the fact, there just aren't a lot of college kids that can put it out of the back of the endzone.

And yet the Texas Tech kid kicked a 62 yard FG.

Didn't they move the KO spot up 5 yards several years ago in order to reduce the number of KO returns? Something about injuries and CTE or something? And we still can't find kids to kick it into the endzone?

 

[Fab5Coug]

And yet the Texas Tech kid kicked a 62 yard FG.

Didn't they move the KO spot up 5 yards several years ago in order to reduce the number of KO returns? Something about injuries and CTE or something? And we still can't find kids to kick it into the endzone?

I tried to find current stats on the percentage of kicks that result in a touchback and the only thing I found said about 40% are touchbacks. That was from like 2018, which I think was the year after they moved the tee up. So, WSU isn't the only one who can't get kids on campus that can consistently put the ball in the end zone. If it was as easy as simply throwing a scholarship at it, or hiring a kicking coach, more teams would be doing that. At this point, I'm willing to just accept that "it is what it is". And honestly, I don't really feel like WSU's kick return coverage has been a huge issue since Leach canned his first ST coach.

 

[Fab5Coug]

kick out of bounds and spot on 35 better than a long return - giving only ten yards compared to through the end zone and spot on 25 - and nobody gets hurt - unless you're the kicker and your coach hits you in the face on the sideline

Has it been a consistent enough problem to justify that?

 

[CougSinceBirth]

Doesn’t surprise me. On a scale of 1-4, WSU’s commitment to football is a 2 on its best day.

And if WSU doesn't want to pay for a top tier coach (or a very smart Kyle Smith of football hire), then why do they bother?

WSU invested in facilities (finally!), they need to invest in their staff, correctly.

 

[mister noon]

Has it been a consistent enough problem to justify that?

I don't think so either - just saying for those that think it is - that opening 2nd half return by Oregon is the only long one i can think of all season seems like coverage consistantly good - and at least one at Oregon was in EZ and not returned

 

[BiggsCoug]

And if WSU doesn't want to pay for a top tier coach (or a very smart Kyle Smith of football hire), then why do they bother?

WSU invested in facilities (finally!), they need to invest in their staff, correctly.

They spend money grudgingly. They spend $60,000,000 on a football ops building but won’t spend $5,000,000 on the HC that makes it all worth it.

 

[wazzucougs96]

Not sure you have to be a "pro vaxer" to think he has done a better job than Moos. Who hired the soccer and both bball coaches? Do you think he has made hiring mistakes along the lines of what Moos did?

Who is ignoring that getting vaccinated as we have done the last 60 years, just not now, has become has become a polarizing topic? And guess what, when Chun leaves that isn't changing.

The next AD will have a vaccination clause in the contract. So there are several options. One, the President at WSU leaves, and they hire someone who has a different approach when it comes to vaccinations(which I doubt) than our current Prez , two, they hire someone who has the same philosophy as Schultz (what would Floyd have done?) or three, the "pro choice" crowd simply will have to stop their support of the program. My guess it will be number 3...well the money anyway.

Agree completely that Chun has run circles around Moos, but the soccer coach (Shulenberger) was hired by Moos.

 

[CougSinceBirth]

Agree completely that Chun has run circles around Moos, but the soccer coach (Shulenberger) was hired by Moos.

Volleyball was Moos too, yes?

But baseball, basketball (M/W), agreed.

Football...Chun gets another shot.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

I don't think so either - just saying for those that think it is - that opening 2nd half return by Oregon is the only long one i can think of all season seems like coverage consistantly good - and at least one at Oregon was in EZ and not returned

nope. There were KO coverage issues early in the season as well. Only one game, but not an isolated incident.

 

[etowncoug]

No, I was being sarcastic. We have some fans that think we're going to offer $4M/year. We're not. Especially with the pending Rolovich lawsuit. We'll offer up to $3M/year, and that limits us to G5 head coaches or coordinators.

3M/year isn't going to get us a hyped candidate from those pools either.