Kick it out of bounds. Or, be at your best when your best is needed and just muscle up and get it done.
Can we open the vault and hire a good DC please!!!
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Kick it out of bounds. Or, be at your best when your best is needed and just muscle up and get it done.
The kickoff in question was taken at the three yard line, in the corner of the field. All in all, that's a pretty good kickoff, and assuming it was actually called, it allows the coverage team to converge. Yes, it would have been nice if it kicked through the uprights with no chance at all of return. But, I don't think it should be assumed that the call was don't kick it into the end zone. That's faulty logic.
We need to start calling Biggs BiancaCoug. This is Sponge-esque here. Perfect play calling and execution at all times, otherwise the coach is a failure.
We have five OL, and Borghi is the only capable lead blocker amongst the RBs. I don't think we would have been successful running the ball over and over. And by the way, we were behind and needed to comeback.
Are you saying don't take a TD on fourth and goal, down by six with one minute left in the game? Should we be blaming Tay Martin for busting a big play?
Here's my serious question: At the time of that last drive, did you or anyone else think that we were guilty of trying to score too early? Again, in hindsight, it would've been great to score that last TD on the last play of the game. It's hard for me to fault the offense when they ultimately went 90 yards in 2 minutes to score the go ahead TD.
Glad Cougar
I don't remember thinking that. I do remember looking at the clock and being concerned, because 1 minute is plenty of time to get into fg range.
Yes it is. But we had the lead. Better than the other alternatives listed above.
Don't they get the ball at the 35 if you kick it out of bounds. So, 5 yards different than the actual result?
I believe it's the 35, or the receiving team can have the kicking team move back 5 yards and re-kick.
The defense should have been able to hold with a minute left. The offense left a lot out on the field, several scoring opportunities muffed. The coaching at the end did not take into account the time factor, nor did they bring pressure on Herbert at the end and sat back in that morbid prevent defense and allowed it to be taken away. The short kickoff at the end was a disaster, if planned. There is culpability all around. The good news is I saw 'fight' in this team to the end. Now, have a great week of practice and then go kick Kal's ass. Go Cougs!
l think we were all concerned about leaving time on the clock after our score. But what option did we have? We needed to move the ball downfield until the first and 10 on the 11 or 12 and then we needed to make sure we scored. We ended up needing all four plays to score a TD, so it is what it is.
On a cold night at low elevation, it should be fairly obvious Crane wasn't capable of booting it out of the endzone. He wasn't able to do this all night. Kicking it out of bounds would have been waving the white flag.
The defense was blitzing on the final drive. If we had been playing softer we wouldn't have been burned by the quick screen game.
On a cold night at low elevation, it should be fairly obvious Crane wasn't capable of booting it out of the endzone. He wasn't able to do this all night. Kicking it out of bounds would have been waving the white flag.
The defense was blitzing on the final drive. If we had been playing softer we wouldn't have been burned by the quick screen game.
Define "good DC". Claeys is an excellent DC. We need a DC that matches the kinds of players we can recruit (3 stars with speed). We need a speed D Coordinator who can recruit and will play aggressively. Perhaps we have that now with the 2-headed system. If not, get someone who's up and coming that subscribes to what we need to play. Bringing in a name DC for lots of $$ isn't necessarily going to result in a good hire.
Yeah that is exactly what I am saying. How about milking down the play clock to under five. About about making sure the players know you have plenty of time to score so don't do anything to stop the clock.
Burn the play clock down and don't do anything to stop the clock. I bet we gave them an extra 30 plus seconds to move down the field. If they only get to the 20 I would have been willing to put 1000 bills on that scared looking kickers face he was going to shank it.
How much is "plenty of time to score" in that situation? I'll repeat what I wrote earlier, what happens if Gordon gets sacked or we fumble the snap or a number of scenarios in which that time might have come in handy....yet we didn't leave enough of it for us to recover? You and I have watched a lot of football over the years and we've seen teams run out of time at the end of the game when they were inside the 10 simply because they didn't or couldn't stop the clock.
With everything that happened in that game, it's kind of strange to pick on the offense for scoring too quickly in that last minute....especially when they had to start at their own 10 yard line with just 3:06 left in the game.
Glad Cougar
Exactly Glad. When you need to go 90 yards in 3 minutes the only clock management you should worry about us preserving time. Not burning it. Oregon had a stout D that had already stopped us multiple times in the red zone. No coach worth anything is going to try to burn it down, when you need the TD.
Here is a not unrealistic hypothetical. Suppose Gordon hits Bell on 1st down and a goes for 90. Do you have him take a knee at the 1, then burn 3 downs before trying to score?
Here is a not unrealistic hypothetical. Suppose Gordon hits Bell on 1st down and a goes for 90. Do you have him take a knee at the 1, then burn 3 downs before trying to score?
Is there a coach in the country, college or pro, that tries to run clock when they're down 6?
I'd prefer they just get in the endzone, rather than get cute and risk running short on time and having to hurry plays.
Tay Martin is to blame. Breaking that long catch and run. Such an inconsiderate jerk face.
Yeah actually from the 20 with a timeout and a minute thirty. You have five maybe seven plays. Time was actually your friend.
They had a timeout to use in the advent of a bobbled snap, a sack or any other catastrophe
They had the ball at the 12, so running 5-7 plays would have required gaining a first down, but not a touchdown.
Again, I doubt there's a coach in the country that would be concerned with burning clock in that situation. The argument, quite frankly, is ridiculous.
Exactly, you don't take your foot off the gas by running plays you wouldn't normally run for the purpose of bleeding clock. We struggled to punch it in from the Redzone all night and needed a TD. Had we been down 2, I'm sure Leach would have called plays differently.
Really a stupid argument. You have to score. Doesn’t matter when.
Yep and people somehow seem to forget they actually did not score until the 4th down play. The worry was not whether they left too much time or not it was whether they would actually score a TD or not.
Even with the bad D, WSU still had the odds with them after the TD. Just one miscue by Oregon, a bobbled snap etc. and it was ball game. Also even with the short FG it is not as if the Oregon kicked drilled that kick down the middle. He came close to shanking it.
