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WillieThePimp said:
What makes you think I support Harris or give a shit about her? What’s with the whataboutism? What kind of logic is that?

The only reason Trump is president and is as wealthy as he is because he’s a reality star. And even then all he had to do was show up - the producers - Primarily Mark. Burnett - did all the work and rescued him when his empire was crumbling away. They had a list of 3 people in mind to star in The Apprentice - had they picked someone else you wouldn’t be rubbing one out over Trump today. How many bankruptcies has he had? Failed business ventures? It’s been pointed out here before that if he’d just put his daddy’s fortune in an index fund he’d be richer today than he is.
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EVERYTHING in politics is whataboutism. Have you doing a Rip Van Winkle for the past 10 years? But please excuse me for thinking you supported Harris even though I didn't get a good look at your ballot. You can see how easily that mistake could be made, seeing how you seem to come down on the liberal side of every issue discussed here.

Your arguments about Trump are just stupid. It is just like saying that the only reason Tom Brady won 6 super bowls was because Belichek was his coach. The reason Trump had all that money was because he worked for it. Did he have a hand getting started, sure he did, but that was no guarantee of success. See Hunter Biden for Exhibit A. Who cares who else was in the running for The Apprentice? The fact is that he is the one selected to do the show and he made it a success.

How is that research on Trump's track record coming along? Not very well, obviously, since you are still asking how many bankruptcies he had after I already gave you the answer, which is 6. Six. SIX! Got it yet. So he had 6 failures with the Atlantic City casinos, so how many of his other ventures were a success, made him a profit. If are going to discuss his track record, you must evaluate both wins and losses. Can anyone imagine doing that in sports, only paying attention to one side of the W/L columns? Should we declare that the Seahawks were a rousing success this past year because they won 10 games? Yahoo? Ooops, we seem to have forgotten something- the Seahawks also lost 7 games, did not win their division, and did not make the playoffs. You understand that, I hope, because your average 3rd grader would have no trouble with the concept.

Now get out there and get busy with your research!
 
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Stretch 74 said:
EVERYTHING in politics is whataboutism. Have you doing a Rip Van Winkle for the past 10 years? But please excuse me for thinking you supported Harris even though I didn't get a good look at your ballot. You can see how easily that mistake could be made, seeing how you seem to come down on the liberal side of every issue discussed here.

Your arguments about Trump are just stupid. It is just like saying that the only reason Tom Brady won 6 super bowls was because Belichek was his coach. The reason Trump had all that money was because he worked for it. Did he have a hand getting started, sure he did, but that was no guarantee of success. See Hunter Biden for Exhibit A. Who cares who else was in the running for The Apprentice? The fact is that he is the one selected to do the show and he made it a success.

How is that research on Trump's track record coming along? Not very well, obviously, since you are still asking how many bankruptcies he had after I already gave you the answer, which is 6. Six. SIX! Got it yet. So he had 6 failures with the Atlantic City casinos, so how many of his other ventures were a success, made him a profit. If are going to discuss his track record, you must evaluate both wins and losses. Can anyone imagine doing that in sports, only paying attention to one side of the W/L columns? Should we declare that the Seahawks were a rousing success this past year because they won 10 games? Yahoo? Ooops, we seem to have forgotten something- the Seahawks also lost 7 games, did not win their division, and did not make the playoffs. You understand that, I hope, because your average 3rd grader would have no trouble with the concept.

Now get out there and get busy with your research!
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Grfhjtdffhhrrggg. Slap. Slap. Grsgjjdgrrhgg

You’re getting slapped in the chin with Trump Steaks for hours, when does Trump Ice explode all over your face?
 
Stretch 74 said:
EVERYTHING in politics is whataboutism. Have you doing a Rip Van Winkle for the past 10 years? But please excuse me for thinking you supported Harris even though I didn't get a good look at your ballot. You can see how easily that mistake could be made, seeing how you seem to come down on the liberal side of every issue discussed here.

Your arguments about Trump are just stupid. It is just like saying that the only reason Tom Brady won 6 super bowls was because Belichek was his coach. The reason Trump had all that money was because he worked for it. Did he have a hand getting started, sure he did, but that was no guarantee of success. See Hunter Biden for Exhibit A. Who cares who else was in the running for The Apprentice? The fact is that he is the one selected to do the show and he made it a success.

How is that research on Trump's track record coming along? Not very well, obviously, since you are still asking how many bankruptcies he had after I already gave you the answer, which is 6. Six. SIX! Got it yet. So he had 6 failures with the Atlantic City casinos, so how many of his other ventures were a success, made him a profit. If are going to discuss his track record, you must evaluate both wins and losses. Can anyone imagine doing that in sports, only paying attention to one side of the W/L columns? Should we declare that the Seahawks were a rousing success this past year because they won 10 games? Yahoo? Ooops, we seem to have forgotten something- the Seahawks also lost 7 games, did not win their division, and did not make the playoffs. You understand that, I hope, because your average 3rd grader would have no trouble with the concept.

Now get out there and get busy with your research!
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Hardly. But you believe this to be true because your brain has been melted by purveyors of nonsense and outrage. Like FOX.

Garbage in, garbage out. This is your brain on stupid.
 
WillieThePimp said:
good burger is your butt okay GIF
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You don't need to keep showing you're an unserious person. We already know.
 
Stretch 74 said:
EVERYTHING in politics is whataboutism. Have you doing a Rip Van Winkle for the past 10 years? But please excuse me for thinking you supported Harris even though I didn't get a good look at your ballot. You can see how easily that mistake could be made, seeing how you seem to come down on the liberal side of every issue discussed here.

Your arguments about Trump are just stupid. It is just like saying that the only reason Tom Brady won 6 super bowls was because Belichek was his coach. The reason Trump had all that money was because he worked for it. Did he have a hand getting started, sure he did, but that was no guarantee of success. See Hunter Biden for Exhibit A. Who cares who else was in the running for The Apprentice? The fact is that he is the one selected to do the show and he made it a success.

How is that research on Trump's track record coming along? Not very well, obviously, since you are still asking how many bankruptcies he had after I already gave you the answer, which is 6. Six. SIX! Got it yet. So he had 6 failures with the Atlantic City casinos, so how many of his other ventures were a success, made him a profit. If are going to discuss his track record, you must evaluate both wins and losses. Can anyone imagine doing that in sports, only paying attention to one side of the W/L columns? Should we declare that the Seahawks were a rousing success this past year because they won 10 games? Yahoo? Ooops, we seem to have forgotten something- the Seahawks also lost 7 games, did not win their division, and did not make the playoffs. You understand that, I hope, because your average 3rd grader would have no trouble with the concept.

Now get out there and get busy with your research!
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We know now why you chose your username of stretch. You are reaching so hard here.

You acknowledge his bankruptcies but ignore all of his other failed ventures that didn't end up in bankruptcy but still failed. Trump University, his football team, his stupid Trump steak scam, Trump Shuttle, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, and GoTrump.com (a travel company) were other failed ventures. Those are what I found in two minutes. It's not unusual for a entrepreneur to have some failures but I'd challenge you to find one that is considered successful who has failed as often as Trump.

Trump is a grifter and a snake oil salesman who was lucky enough to be born with $100 million handed to him. If he would have just invested that money in an S&P market fund, he would have $6.3 billion today. His media company that runs Truth Social has boosted his fortunes in the past year, but his net worth was around $3 billion before he created that company. And the reality is that once Trump is not President...the Trump media company is going to collapse along with his net worth. His whole life has been a bumbling series of mistakes where doing nothing would have yielded more gain than his moronic ideas. And let's not forget that it takes a special kind of stupid to fail at the casino business....and Trump did it six times.
 
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Stretch 74 said:
EVERYTHING in politics is whataboutism. Have you doing a Rip Van Winkle for the past 10 years? But please excuse me for thinking you supported Harris even though I didn't get a good look at your ballot. You can see how easily that mistake could be made, seeing how you seem to come down on the liberal side of every issue discussed here.

Your arguments about Trump are just stupid. It is just like saying that the only reason Tom Brady won 6 super bowls was because Belichek was his coach. The reason Trump had all that money was because he worked for it. Did he have a hand getting started, sure he did, but that was no guarantee of success. See Hunter Biden for Exhibit A. Who cares who else was in the running for The Apprentice? The fact is that he is the one selected to do the show and he made it a success.

How is that research on Trump's track record coming along? Not very well, obviously, since you are still asking how many bankruptcies he had after I already gave you the answer, which is 6. Six. SIX! Got it yet. So he had 6 failures with the Atlantic City casinos, so how many of his other ventures were a success, made him a profit. If are going to discuss his track record, you must evaluate both wins and losses. Can anyone imagine doing that in sports, only paying attention to one side of the W/L columns? Should we declare that the Seahawks were a rousing success this past year because they won 10 games? Yahoo? Ooops, we seem to have forgotten something- the Seahawks also lost 7 games, did not win their division, and did not make the playoffs. You understand that, I hope, because your average 3rd grader would have no trouble with the concept.

Now get out there and get busy with your research!
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It is kind of disingenuous to suggest that Trump's only failed business ventures were the Atlantic City casinos. From his own S-4 for Trump Media and Technology Group:

"Trump Shuttle Inc., launched by President Trump in 1989, defaulted on its loans in 1990 and ceased to exist by 1992. Trump University, founded by President Trump in 2005, ceased operations in 2011 amid lawsuits and investigations regarding the company’s business practices. Trump Vodka, a brand of vodka produced by Drinks Americas under license from the Trump Organization, was introduced in 2005 and discontinued in 2011.”

“Trump Mortgage, LLC, a financial services company founded by President Trump in 2006, ceased operations in 2007. GoTrump.com, a travel site founded by President Trump in 2006, ceased operations in 2007. Trump Steaks, a brand of steak and other meats founded by President Trump in 2007, discontinued sales two months after its launch.”

Here is an independent compilation of Trump business failures:
  1. Trump Airlines — Trump borrowed $245 million to purchase Eastern Air Shuttle. He branded it Trump Airlines. He added gold bathroom fixtures. Two years later Trump could not cover the interest payment on his loan and defaulted.
  2. Trump Beverages — Although Trump touted his water as "one of the purest natural spring waters bottled in the world," it was simply bottled by a third party. Other beverages, including Trump Fire and Trump Power, seem not to have made it to market. And Trump's American Pale Ale died with a trademark withdrawal.
  3. Trump Game — Milton Bradley tried to sell it. As did Hasbro. After investment, the game died and went out of circulation.
  4. Trump Casinos — Trump filed for bankruptcy three times on his casinos, namely the Trump Taj Mahal, the Trump Marina and the Trump Plaza in New Jersey and the Trump Casino in Indiana. Trump avoided debt obligations of $3 billion the first time. Then $1.8 billion the second time. And then after reorganizing, shuffling money and assets, and waiting four years, Trump again declared bankruptcy after missing ongoing interest payments on multi-million dollar bonds. He was finally forced to step down as chairman.
  5. Trump Magazine — Trump Style and Trump World were renamed Trump Magazine to reap advertising dollars from his name recognition. However, Trump Magazine also went out of business.
  6. Trump Mortgage — Trump told CNBC in 2006 that "I think it's a great time to start a mortgage company. … The real-estate market is going to be very strong for a long time to come." Then the real estate market collapsed. Trump had hired E.J. Ridings as CEO of Trump Mortgage and boasted that Ridings had been a "top executive of one of Wall Street's most prestigious investment banks." Turned out Ridings had only six months of experience as a stockbroker. Trump Mortgage closed and never paid a $298,274 judgment it owed a former employee, nor the $3,555 it owed in unpaid taxes.
  7. Trump Steaks — Trump closed Trump Steaks due to a lack of sales while owing Buckhead Beef $715,000.
  8. Trump's Travel Site — GoTrump.com was in business for one year. Failed.
  9. Trumpnet — A telephone communication company that abandoned its trademark.
  10. Trump Tower Tampa — Trump sold his name to the developers and received $2 million. Then the project went belly-up with only $3,500 left in the company. Condo buyers sued Trump for allegedly misleading them. Trump settled and paid as little as $11,115 to buyers who had lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
  11. Trump University or the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative — Trump staged wealth-building seminars costing up to $34,995 for mentorships that would offer students access to Trump's secrets of success. Instructors turned out to be motivational speakers sometimes with criminal records. Lawsuits and criminal investigations abound.
  12. Trump Vodka — Business failed due to a lack of sales.
  13. Trump Fragrances — Success by Trump, Empire by Trump, and Donald Trump: The Fragrances all failed due to being discontinued, perhaps as a result of few sales.
  14. Trump Mattress — Serta stopped offering a Trump-branded mattress, again likely due to slacking sales.
 
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Flatlandcoug said:
We know now why you chose your username of stretch. You are reaching so hard here.

You acknowledge his bankruptcies but ignore all of his other failed ventures that didn't end up in bankruptcy but still failed. Trump University, his football team, his stupid Trump steak scam, Trump Shuttle, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, and GoTrump.com (a travel company) were other failed ventures. Those are what I found in two minutes. It's not unusual for a entrepreneur to have some failures but I'd challenge you to find one that is considered successful who has failed as often as Trump.

Trump is a grifter and a snake oil salesman who was lucky enough to be born with $100 million handed to him. If he would have just invested that money in an S&P market fund, he would have $6.3 billion today. His media company that runs Truth Social has boosted his fortunes in the past year, but his net worth was around $3 billion before he created that company. And the reality is that once Trump is not President...the Trump media company is going to collapse along with his net worth. His whole life has been a bumbling series of mistakes where doing nothing would have yielded more gain than his moronic ideas. And let's not forget that it takes a special kind of stupid to fail at the casino business....and Trump did it six times.
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Toss all that aside, when you’re stealing from your charity/foundation and are forced to shut it down and pay a 7 figure settlement, you are a special kind of dirt bag. This along with the Trump University Scam are worse than any bankruptcies. The guy is a con man in broad daylight and he’s conned all of these dipshits into sucking him off till the end of time.
 
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Cougar_Guy said:
It is kind of disingenuous to suggest that Trump's only failed business ventures were the Atlantic City casinos. From his own S-4 for Trump Media and Technology Group:

"Trump Shuttle Inc., launched by President Trump in 1989, defaulted on its loans in 1990 and ceased to exist by 1992. Trump University, founded by President Trump in 2005, ceased operations in 2011 amid lawsuits and investigations regarding the company’s business practices. Trump Vodka, a brand of vodka produced by Drinks Americas under license from the Trump Organization, was introduced in 2005 and discontinued in 2011.”

“Trump Mortgage, LLC, a financial services company founded by President Trump in 2006, ceased operations in 2007. GoTrump.com, a travel site founded by President Trump in 2006, ceased operations in 2007. Trump Steaks, a brand of steak and other meats founded by President Trump in 2007, discontinued sales two months after its launch.”

Here is an independent compilation of Trump business failures:
  1. Trump Airlines — Trump borrowed $245 million to purchase Eastern Air Shuttle. He branded it Trump Airlines. He added gold bathroom fixtures. Two years later Trump could not cover the interest payment on his loan and defaulted.
  2. Trump Beverages — Although Trump touted his water as "one of the purest natural spring waters bottled in the world," it was simply bottled by a third party. Other beverages, including Trump Fire and Trump Power, seem not to have made it to market. And Trump's American Pale Ale died with a trademark withdrawal.
  3. Trump Game — Milton Bradley tried to sell it. As did Hasbro. After investment, the game died and went out of circulation.
  4. Trump Casinos — Trump filed for bankruptcy three times on his casinos, namely the Trump Taj Mahal, the Trump Marina and the Trump Plaza in New Jersey and the Trump Casino in Indiana. Trump avoided debt obligations of $3 billion the first time. Then $1.8 billion the second time. And then after reorganizing, shuffling money and assets, and waiting four years, Trump again declared bankruptcy after missing ongoing interest payments on multi-million dollar bonds. He was finally forced to step down as chairman.
  5. Trump Magazine — Trump Style and Trump World were renamed Trump Magazine to reap advertising dollars from his name recognition. However, Trump Magazine also went out of business.
  6. Trump Mortgage — Trump told CNBC in 2006 that "I think it's a great time to start a mortgage company. … The real-estate market is going to be very strong for a long time to come." Then the real estate market collapsed. Trump had hired E.J. Ridings as CEO of Trump Mortgage and boasted that Ridings had been a "top executive of one of Wall Street's most prestigious investment banks." Turned out Ridings had only six months of experience as a stockbroker. Trump Mortgage closed and never paid a $298,274 judgment it owed a former employee, nor the $3,555 it owed in unpaid taxes.
  7. Trump Steaks — Trump closed Trump Steaks due to a lack of sales while owing Buckhead Beef $715,000.
  8. Trump's Travel Site — GoTrump.com was in business for one year. Failed.
  9. Trumpnet — A telephone communication company that abandoned its trademark.
  10. Trump Tower Tampa — Trump sold his name to the developers and received $2 million. Then the project went belly-up with only $3,500 left in the company. Condo buyers sued Trump for allegedly misleading them. Trump settled and paid as little as $11,115 to buyers who had lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
  11. Trump University or the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative — Trump staged wealth-building seminars costing up to $34,995 for mentorships that would offer students access to Trump's secrets of success. Instructors turned out to be motivational speakers sometimes with criminal records. Lawsuits and criminal investigations abound.
  12. Trump Vodka — Business failed due to a lack of sales.
  13. Trump Fragrances — Success by Trump, Empire by Trump, and Donald Trump: The Fragrances all failed due to being discontinued, perhaps as a result of few sales.
  14. Trump Mattress — Serta stopped offering a Trump-branded mattress, again likely due to slacking sales.
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Trumps American Pale Ale is doing quite well I’d say!!

How do you F up Vodka and fragrances? Clooney sold his brand for over a $B. Failing at spirits should be disqualifying for any true Coug!
 
Flatlandcoug said:
We know now why you chose your username of stretch. You are reaching so hard here.

You acknowledge his bankruptcies but ignore all of his other failed ventures that didn't end up in bankruptcy but still failed. Trump University, his football team, his stupid Trump steak scam, Trump Shuttle, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, and GoTrump.com (a travel company) were other failed ventures. Those are what I found in two minutes. It's not unusual for a entrepreneur to have some failures but I'd challenge you to find one that is considered successful who has failed as often as Trump.

Trump is a grifter and a snake oil salesman who was lucky enough to be born with $100 million handed to him. If he would have just invested that money in an S&P market fund, he would have $6.3 billion today. His media company that runs Truth Social has boosted his fortunes in the past year, but his net worth was around $3 billion before he created that company. And the reality is that once Trump is not President...the Trump media company is going to collapse along with his net worth. His whole life has been a bumbling series of mistakes where doing nothing would have yielded more gain than his moronic ideas. And let's not forget that it takes a special kind of stupid to fail at the casino business....and Trump did it six times.
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Trump, who liked to claim he got a $1 million dollar loan from his father and that he is a self made man, actually got $413 million from Daddy Trump.
 
Cougar_Guy said:
It is kind of disingenuous to suggest that Trump's only failed business ventures were the Atlantic City casinos. From his own S-4 for Trump Media and Technology Group:

"Trump Shuttle Inc., launched by President Trump in 1989, defaulted on its loans in 1990 and ceased to exist by 1992. Trump University, founded by President Trump in 2005, ceased operations in 2011 amid lawsuits and investigations regarding the company’s business practices. Trump Vodka, a brand of vodka produced by Drinks Americas under license from the Trump Organization, was introduced in 2005 and discontinued in 2011.”

“Trump Mortgage, LLC, a financial services company founded by President Trump in 2006, ceased operations in 2007. GoTrump.com, a travel site founded by President Trump in 2006, ceased operations in 2007. Trump Steaks, a brand of steak and other meats founded by President Trump in 2007, discontinued sales two months after its launch.”

Here is an independent compilation of Trump business failures:
  1. Trump Airlines — Trump borrowed $245 million to purchase Eastern Air Shuttle. He branded it Trump Airlines. He added gold bathroom fixtures. Two years later Trump could not cover the interest payment on his loan and defaulted.
  2. Trump Beverages — Although Trump touted his water as "one of the purest natural spring waters bottled in the world," it was simply bottled by a third party. Other beverages, including Trump Fire and Trump Power, seem not to have made it to market. And Trump's American Pale Ale died with a trademark withdrawal.
  3. Trump Game — Milton Bradley tried to sell it. As did Hasbro. After investment, the game died and went out of circulation.
  4. Trump Casinos — Trump filed for bankruptcy three times on his casinos, namely the Trump Taj Mahal, the Trump Marina and the Trump Plaza in New Jersey and the Trump Casino in Indiana. Trump avoided debt obligations of $3 billion the first time. Then $1.8 billion the second time. And then after reorganizing, shuffling money and assets, and waiting four years, Trump again declared bankruptcy after missing ongoing interest payments on multi-million dollar bonds. He was finally forced to step down as chairman.
  5. Trump Magazine — Trump Style and Trump World were renamed Trump Magazine to reap advertising dollars from his name recognition. However, Trump Magazine also went out of business.
  6. Trump Mortgage — Trump told CNBC in 2006 that "I think it's a great time to start a mortgage company. … The real-estate market is going to be very strong for a long time to come." Then the real estate market collapsed. Trump had hired E.J. Ridings as CEO of Trump Mortgage and boasted that Ridings had been a "top executive of one of Wall Street's most prestigious investment banks." Turned out Ridings had only six months of experience as a stockbroker. Trump Mortgage closed and never paid a $298,274 judgment it owed a former employee, nor the $3,555 it owed in unpaid taxes.
  7. Trump Steaks — Trump closed Trump Steaks due to a lack of sales while owing Buckhead Beef $715,000.
  8. Trump's Travel Site — GoTrump.com was in business for one year. Failed.
  9. Trumpnet — A telephone communication company that abandoned its trademark.
  10. Trump Tower Tampa — Trump sold his name to the developers and received $2 million. Then the project went belly-up with only $3,500 left in the company. Condo buyers sued Trump for allegedly misleading them. Trump settled and paid as little as $11,115 to buyers who had lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
  11. Trump University or the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative — Trump staged wealth-building seminars costing up to $34,995 for mentorships that would offer students access to Trump's secrets of success. Instructors turned out to be motivational speakers sometimes with criminal records. Lawsuits and criminal investigations abound.
  12. Trump Vodka — Business failed due to a lack of sales.
  13. Trump Fragrances — Success by Trump, Empire by Trump, and Donald Trump: The Fragrances all failed due to being discontinued, perhaps as a result of few sales.
  14. Trump Mattress — Serta stopped offering a Trump-branded mattress, again likely due to slacking sales.
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Hey CougarGuy - where the hell have you been hiding? Welcome (back?).

Nice list. What I can't understand is how do you go belly up so many times and are still rich? I guess these and the casinos were all corporations with no ultimate liability, but still. Who the F would invest money in this crap after multiple failures?
 
Loyal Coug1 said:
Hey CougarGuy - where the hell have you been hiding? Welcome (back?).

Nice list. What I can't understand is how do you go belly up so many times and are still rich? I guess these and the casinos were all corporations with no ultimate liability, but still. Who the F would invest money in this crap after multiple failures?
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Funny thing, all of the investors in Atlantic City invested with him in Las Vegas.

Now, I wonder why that is????
 
Cougar_Guy said:
It is kind of disingenuous to suggest that Trump's only failed business ventures were the Atlantic City casinos. From his own S-4 for Trump Media and Technology Group:

"Trump Shuttle Inc., launched by President Trump in 1989, defaulted on its loans in 1990 and ceased to exist by 1992. Trump University, founded by President Trump in 2005, ceased operations in 2011 amid lawsuits and investigations regarding the company’s business practices. Trump Vodka, a brand of vodka produced by Drinks Americas under license from the Trump Organization, was introduced in 2005 and discontinued in 2011.”

“Trump Mortgage, LLC, a financial services company founded by President Trump in 2006, ceased operations in 2007. GoTrump.com, a travel site founded by President Trump in 2006, ceased operations in 2007. Trump Steaks, a brand of steak and other meats founded by President Trump in 2007, discontinued sales two months after its launch.”

Here is an independent compilation of Trump business failures:
  1. Trump Airlines — Trump borrowed $245 million to purchase Eastern Air Shuttle. He branded it Trump Airlines. He added gold bathroom fixtures. Two years later Trump could not cover the interest payment on his loan and defaulted.
  2. Trump Beverages — Although Trump touted his water as "one of the purest natural spring waters bottled in the world," it was simply bottled by a third party. Other beverages, including Trump Fire and Trump Power, seem not to have made it to market. And Trump's American Pale Ale died with a trademark withdrawal.
  3. Trump Game — Milton Bradley tried to sell it. As did Hasbro. After investment, the game died and went out of circulation.
  4. Trump Casinos — Trump filed for bankruptcy three times on his casinos, namely the Trump Taj Mahal, the Trump Marina and the Trump Plaza in New Jersey and the Trump Casino in Indiana. Trump avoided debt obligations of $3 billion the first time. Then $1.8 billion the second time. And then after reorganizing, shuffling money and assets, and waiting four years, Trump again declared bankruptcy after missing ongoing interest payments on multi-million dollar bonds. He was finally forced to step down as chairman.
  5. Trump Magazine — Trump Style and Trump World were renamed Trump Magazine to reap advertising dollars from his name recognition. However, Trump Magazine also went out of business.
  6. Trump Mortgage — Trump told CNBC in 2006 that "I think it's a great time to start a mortgage company. … The real-estate market is going to be very strong for a long time to come." Then the real estate market collapsed. Trump had hired E.J. Ridings as CEO of Trump Mortgage and boasted that Ridings had been a "top executive of one of Wall Street's most prestigious investment banks." Turned out Ridings had only six months of experience as a stockbroker. Trump Mortgage closed and never paid a $298,274 judgment it owed a former employee, nor the $3,555 it owed in unpaid taxes.
  7. Trump Steaks — Trump closed Trump Steaks due to a lack of sales while owing Buckhead Beef $715,000.
  8. Trump's Travel Site — GoTrump.com was in business for one year. Failed.
  9. Trumpnet — A telephone communication company that abandoned its trademark.
  10. Trump Tower Tampa — Trump sold his name to the developers and received $2 million. Then the project went belly-up with only $3,500 left in the company. Condo buyers sued Trump for allegedly misleading them. Trump settled and paid as little as $11,115 to buyers who had lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
  11. Trump University or the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative — Trump staged wealth-building seminars costing up to $34,995 for mentorships that would offer students access to Trump's secrets of success. Instructors turned out to be motivational speakers sometimes with criminal records. Lawsuits and criminal investigations abound.
  12. Trump Vodka — Business failed due to a lack of sales.
  13. Trump Fragrances — Success by Trump, Empire by Trump, and Donald Trump: The Fragrances all failed due to being discontinued, perhaps as a result of few sales.
  14. Trump Mattress — Serta stopped offering a Trump-branded mattress, again likely due to slacking sales.
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And his NOL carryovers mean that he'll never pay a penny of federal income tax. Is there a real point here? His assets are estimated at $6.8 billion. I'd guess that's a wee bit higher than everyone posting in this thread combined.

I'm sure there is plenty outrage (think of Willie pounding his Trump-sized baby hands on a table and screaming outrageous!) over Pelosi consistently being the best investor in Congress.
 
dgibbons said:
And his NOL carryovers mean that he'll never pay a penny of federal income tax. Is there a real point here? His assets are estimated at $6.8 billion. I'd guess that's a wee bit higher than everyone posting in this thread combined.

I'm sure there is plenty outrage (think of Willie pounding his Trump-sized baby hands on a table and screaming outrageous!) over Pelosi consistently being the best investor in Congress.
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To be fair his $413M inheritance from pops is probably a wee bit higher too, which is part of the point.

And yes Fck Pelosi also! That’s the difference between normal folks and Trump cultists.
 
In current news, Kristi Noem's hearing is going on as I post this. She's 53. And still smoking hot. Damn.

Edit - speaking oh hot chicks, we have found our new Ambassador to Australia. Scroll to the vidoe clip where she blows a kiss then slaps her own cute butt.

 
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Loyal Coug1 said:
In current news, Kristi Noem's hearing is going on as I post this. She's 53. And still smoking hot. Damn.
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As far as I can surmise, Loyal's standards are: (1) alive (optional); (2) female (also optional); and (3) not Patty Murray (unless she's supplying the vodka or Coors Light).
 
Coug90 said:
To be fair his $413M inheritance from pops is probably a wee bit higher too, which is part of the point.

And yes Fck Pelosi also! That’s the difference between normal folks and Trump cultists.
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You guys only like fact checks on Trump.

www.politifact.com

Harris exaggerates scale, timing of Trump’s inheritance

Vice President Kamala Harris has periodically needled her opponent in the presidential race, former President Donald Tru
www.politifact.com www.politifact.com
 
dgibbons said:
As far as I can surmise, Loyal's standards are: (1) alive (optional); (2) female (also optional); and (3) not Patty Murray (unless she's supplying the vodka or Coors Light).
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Gibby - why are you trying to insult me (unprovoked I may add) today? I haven't replied to any of your BS and useless posts all week. Speaking of, judging from your constant presence on WW all week, you must not have gotten very many charge hours in. Unless you fraudulently bill your clients while you post endlessly here. Like Bendini, Lambert & Locke in The Firm?

But, feel free to keep it up if it makes you happy. Although your stalker-like infatuation with the Mighty Loyal One does get kind of creepy.
 
dgibbons said:
You guys only like fact checks on Trump.

www.politifact.com

Harris exaggerates scale, timing of Trump’s inheritance

Vice President Kamala Harris has periodically needled her opponent in the presidential race, former President Donald Tru
www.politifact.com www.politifact.com
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Fact check away. It’s a pretty weak argument when you consider he was probably better off in the long run having his gifts spread out over time vs having the opportunity to squander it all at once. And those providing the handouts undoubtedly knew the same thing.
 
Loyal Coug1 said:
Gibby - why are you trying to insult me (unprovoked I may add) today? I haven't replied to any of your BS and useless posts all week. Speaking of, judging from your constant presence on WW all week, you must not have gotten very many charge hours in. Unless you fraudulently bill your clients while you post endlessly here. Like Bendini, Lambert & Locke in The Firm?

But, feel free to keep it up if it makes you happy. Although your stalker-like infatuation with the Mighty Loyal One does get kind of creepy.
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You could always dial back on the creeper posts. Your choice.
 
Coug90 said:
Fact check away. It’s a pretty weak argument when you consider he was probably better off in the long run having his gifts spread out over time vs having the opportunity to squander it all at once. And those providing the handouts undoubtedly knew the same thing.
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My only argument is that your guys' brains are filled with a lot of misinformation and disinformation.
 
dgibbons said:
As far as I can surmise, Loyal's standards are: (1) alive (optional); (2) female (also optional); and (3) not Patty Murray (unless she's supplying the vodka or Coors Light).
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Those standards would probably fare pretty well against what we’ve seen the last 8 years and 4 more to come.

As uncle Judd says…sometimes dead…is bettah.
 
dgibbons said:
My only argument is that your guys' brains are filled with a lot of misinformation and disinformation.
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Your guys’ 😂😂😂. Come on now Gibbs look at the OP, half his info comes from Loomer. There’s plenty of misinformation to go around and your “guys’” stumble into a Jurassic park sized pile of it on a daily basis.
 
Loyal Coug1 said:
Hey CougarGuy - where the hell have you been hiding? Welcome (back?).

Nice list. What I can't understand is how do you go belly up so many times and are still rich? I guess these and the casinos were all corporations with no ultimate liability, but still. Who the F would invest money in this crap after multiple failures?
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I decided to quit Twitter I guess. Have checked in here from time to time over the years....

It's pretty simple getting rich off of corporate bankruptcy as an individual.

"Trump has never had to declare personal bankruptcy, but the company he set up to operate his Atlantic City casinos went through numerous corporate restructurings to reduce its debt load. As the New York Times recounted last year, Trump used his company as a means of transferring his personal debt load onto shareholders, issuing rounds of junk bonds to build up cash that would erase his own debts. “Even as his companies did poorly, Mr. Trump did well,” the Times wrote. “He put up little of his own money, shifted personal debts to the casinos and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonuses and other payments. The burden of his failures fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen.”"

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU00/20200929/111078/HMKP-116-JU00-20200929-SD003.pdf

The pattern is eerily similar to what is happening with the Trump Media and Technology Group, a company that has done nothing but lose millions upon millions of dollars.
 
dgibbons said:
You could always dial back on the creeper posts. Your choice.
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Creeper posts? What creeper posts? You mean a post appreciating an attractive woman? That's creepy to you? Ok then. Wait until Tulsi takes the stand. And I'll repost my previous edit (see below) introducing our new Ambassador to Australia. Something about those short little tennis skirts..........especially when the players slap their own butts. :)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/te...lian-open-crowd/ar-AA1xiXjE?ocid=BingNewsSerp
 
Coug90 said:
Your guys’ 😂😂😂. Come on now Gibbs look at the OP, half his info comes from Loomer. There’s plenty of misinformation to go around and your “guys’” stumble into a Jurassic park sized pile of it on a daily basis.
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Truth hurt, or what?
 
Loyal Coug1 said:
Creeper posts? What creeper posts? You mean a post appreciating an attractive woman? That's creepy to you? Ok then. Wait until Tulsi takes the stand. And I'll repost my previous edit (see below) introducing our new Ambassador to Australia. Something about those short little tennis skirts..........especially when the players slap their own butts. :)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/te...lian-open-crowd/ar-AA1xiXjE?ocid=BingNewsSerp
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I bring up your creeper proclivity, knowing full well that you could revert to wiener posts. God help us.
 
Flatlandcoug said:
FWIW....I've always said that Trump is racist.
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Of course... which means that all of his minority friends should be tarred and feathered.

Pardon me for having more respect for those around him than a poser measuring from a biased media.

But again... Party on Wayne
 
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