Congrats to Minshew on great rookie season

[chugspig]

Congrats to Minshew, who will have tossed for 3270 ish yards and 21TD/6INT in 14 games played I believe. Will end with a rating >90.

That is a huge year, on a team that has had historic disagreements with the FO, and turmoil between players and coaches. Add a horrid o line to boot.

I hope Gardner gets a real chance to develop alongside some high draft picks on the Oline and continue leading the Jags. His stats are impressive for a rookie, even were he to be a loaded team.

 

[Coug90]

Congrats to Minshew, who will have tossed for 3270 ish yards and 21TD/6INT in 14 games played I believe. Will end with a rating >90.

That is a huge year, on a team that has had historic disagreements with the FO, and turmoil between players and coaches. Add a horrid o line to boot.

I hope Gardner gets a real chance to develop alongside some high draft picks on the Oline and continue leading the Jags. His stats are impressive for a rookie, even were he to be a loaded team.

I’ve said if before will say it again. Jags need to dump Foles and his contract. They may need to eat some of it but Minshew is damn near free for the next two years and is only going to get better. Take your Franchise QB money you aren’t spending and build a wall around Minshew.

 

[COUGinNCW]

I’ve said if before will say it again. Jags need to dump Foles and his contract. They may need to eat some of it but Minshew is damn near free for the next two years and is only going to get better. Take your Franchise QB money you aren’t spending and build a wall around Minshew.

And a bad ass D.

 

[FnuLnu]

Congrats to Minshew, who will have tossed for 3270 ish yards and 21TD/6INT in 14 games played I believe. Will end with a rating >90.

That is a huge year, on a team that has had historic disagreements with the FO, and turmoil between players and coaches. Add a horrid o line to boot.

I hope Gardner gets a real chance to develop alongside some high draft picks on the Oline and continue leading the Jags. His stats are impressive for a rookie, even were he to be a loaded team.

Highest number of TDs thrown in one NFL season by any WSU QB except Bledsoe and Rypien.

More career TDs in one season than Rosenbach had in entire NFL career.

 

[BiggsCoug]

I’ve said if before will say it again. Jags need to dump Foles and his contract. They may need to eat some of it but Minshew is damn near free for the next two years and is only going to get better. Take your Franchise QB money you aren’t spending and build a wall around Minshew.

How bad is the cap hit? They need to find a trade partner. Move the contract and get something in return.

 

[Coug90]

How bad is the cap hit? They need to find a trade partner. Move the contract and get something in return.

Yeah I imagine they will trade him but they may still need to eat some contract. Or they may need to swap draft picks...give up a better one, to entice a team to take Foles. Foles is basically in the same spot with Jax where Osweillwr was after Houston paid him and he sucked, and that’s how Houston dumped his contract.

 

[95coug]

How bad is the cap hit? They need to find a trade partner. Move the contract and get something in return.

Bad.

If they cut him before June they take a $33.8 million hit. After June, it’s $21.3 million this year and $13.5 in 2021. Only costs $22 million to keep him.

They’ll try to find a trade, but even that’s tough. It’ll cost them $18.5 mil for an offseason trade. After June, it costs them $6.25M this year and 12.5M next. That’s obviously the best financial choice, but it’ll be harder to find a willing trade partner for a post-June trade. They’d probably have to give up something to get another team to take his contract (like Foles and a 2nd round pick for a 3rd/4th rounder).

I think their best move is shop him aggressively immediately. Dumping him gives $4 million cap space that can be used in free agency and the draft. Meanwhile, figure out how bad they want to get rid of him if they can’t dump him before june.

Another option - convince him to retire. Then his entire salary is cleared and they’re off the hook. I’d offer him this deal - no trade, no cut, if he retires March 21. He’s due a $5 million roster bonus effective March 20. So...we’ll pay you $5 million to quit.

That deal clears his $22 million in dead money for 2020, so effectively nets $17 million. He has a Super Bowl ring and MVP, got paid $22 million in 2019, plus a $25 million signing bonus, and gets another $5 million for going home while he can still walk. Everybody wins.


EDIT: Just looked at cap space for 2020. Jags have less than $2M, so they can’t cut Foles before June at all. Even trading him then isn’t ideal.
Additional problem - this year’s draft is QB-heavy. A lot of the teams who need a QB probably aren’t going to be very interested in trading for Foles until after the draft...and then only if they don’t draft one. The rookie will be cheaper, have a higher ceiling, and probably generate more fan interest. And, most of the teams with a major QB need are picking in the top 10.

 

[royhobbs2]

probably gets traded if Jax will continue to pay a chunk of his salary, makes him affordable.

Bad move to give Foles that contract, but they had no idea what they had in GM. GM soundly beat him out for that job.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Bad.

If they cut him before June they take a $33.8 million hit. After June, it’s $21.3 million this year and $13.5 in 2021. Only costs $22 million to keep him.

They’ll try to find a trade, but even that’s tough. It’ll cost them $18.5 mil for an offseason trade. After June, it costs them $6.25M this year and 12.5M next. That’s obviously the best financial choice, but it’ll be harder to find a willing trade partner for a post-June trade. They’d probably have to give up something to get another team to take his contract (like Foles and a 2nd round pick for a 3rd/4th rounder).

I think their best move is shop him aggressively immediately. Dumping him gives $4 million cap space that can be used in free agency and the draft. Meanwhile, figure out how bad they want to get rid of him if they can’t dump him before june.

Another option - convince him to retire. Then his entire salary is cleared and they’re off the hook. I’d offer him this deal - no trade, no cut, if he retires March 21. He’s due a $5 million roster bonus effective March 20. So...we’ll pay you $5 million to quit.

That deal clears his $22 million in dead money for 2020, so effectively nets $17 million. He has a Super Bowl ring and MVP, got paid $22 million in 2019, plus a $25 million signing bonus, and gets another $5 million for going home while he can still walk. Everybody wins.


EDIT: Just looked at cap space for 2020. Jags have less than $2M, so they can’t cut Foles before June at all. Even trading him then isn’t ideal.
Additional problem - this year’s draft is QB-heavy. A lot of the teams who need a QB probably aren’t going to be very interested in trading for Foles until after the draft...and then only if they don’t draft one. The rookie will be cheaper, have a higher ceiling, and probably generate more fan interest. And, most of the teams with a major QB need are picking in the top 10.

So they’re stuck.

 

[95coug]

So they’re stuck.

Mostly. If they can’t convince Foles to retire, they need Philip Rivers or Tom Brady to hang it up. Or they need the Titans to give up on Tannehill, Bears to give up on Trubisky, or a surprise retirement a la Andrew Luck.