Oh, I figured he was referencing something that was already out there that maybe had some actual basis. If he just pulled that out of thin air and sprang that on Baumgartner that’s vile.
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Maybe Baumgatner had some tricky stumps in his back yard that he was trying to get rid of. In that case a Google search might lead you to the Grinder app 🤷
So the stewards of intellectualism would rather discuss a question at a town hall by random dude about a dating site over substantive legislation affecting college athletics.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Cause this is the first time a thread has morphed into something else? Fck off obs.
“Substantive legislation”? Where? Since when does the executive legislate?
And yet you’re the guy who now seemingly takes every opportunity to pretend that you’re Tinky Winky’s bestie and protector all while declaring allegiance to the party of hate and discrimination.
Interesting indeed.
So you’re also unable to frame a rebuttal or alternative to Baumgartner’s proposal.
Noted. Always back to Trump. All ways. Like moths to a flame.
He is too fcking stupid to engage with. He is the dumbest of Americans, maga.
While I agree in general with what he’s saying, I still don’t think this is an issue Congress should take up.
If they’re intent on inserting themselves into an industry with conspiratorial partners driving prices up, they should look at insurance and pharmaceuticals. That affects all Americans. Athletics are an opt-out market - nobody has to pay into it.
You do realize that everyone in government with an R next to their name has to think to themselves “what would Trump say?” before a thought becomes words or ink on paper right?
As much comedy as Uber brings to the subject that last bit from you is gold considering the political landscape we are all living in and witnessing.
Baumgartner's proposed predated any type of endorsement or possible EO from Trump. And given his history with the Cougs, highly unlikely he sought Trump's blessing in advance unless it was through his spirit guide Mike Leach.
The only comedy gold is the failure of ANYONE to rebutt the legislative act on the table. 95's argument on the free market is about the only substantive comment.
It remains to be seen whether college athletics is a free market commodity or a regulated good - especially given universities' reliance on taxpayer funds.
From Baumgartner’s summary:
Establish a National Standards Commission: Creates an independent commission, including student-athlete representation, empowered to set uniform national standards for collegiate athletics.
What enforcement authority will it have? And how is it going to implement any change in light of the court decisions that led to NIL? And, what authority exists to allow this level of control over a market/industry? EDIT: Two industries actually, since this covers both athletics (which it could be argued are a commodity or good - although I think that’s a weak argument) as well as broadcasting.
Implement Equitable NIL Revenue Sharing: Pools NIL revenues nationally and redistributes them equally to all student-athletes—ensuring equal shares for high-profile stars, women’s sports athletes, freshmen in non-revenue sports, and team backups alike.
This sounds like socialism, so no republicans will support it…unless they get paid. And how does this fit within the court decisions that led to NIL? Using historical examples from WSU, why should Ryan Leaf and Steve Birnbaum get the same money?
End Exploitative Conference Realignments: Requires athletic conferences to operate within single time zones, drastically reducing travel burdens and prioritizing student-athletes' academic and physical well-being.
So, Wisconsin and Minnesota have to leave the Big 10? The Badgers can’t travel the 400 miles to play Michigan in conference, but would be OK to travel 1,200 to play Texas? Using time zones as the delimiter is dumb, because they’re all longer north to south than they are east to west, and because teams that are pretty close to each other might cross time zones. This would prevent WSU and Boise state from being in the same conference…but WSU could be in a conference with San Diego State.
EDIT: this again impacts broadcasting, as it could have significant impacts on the value of media contracts. Possible commerce clause implications here.
Cap Excessive Coaching Salaries: Sets reasonable limits on coaching salaries, reallocating savings to student-athlete educational resources, healthcare, and support services
Who decides what’s excessive, and on what basis? What other industry sets a cap on manager salaries, and was that cap created through legislative action? If this is done, are we next going to start looking at CEO salaries in other industries? If we’re pretending we’re concerned about funding to “student-athlete educational resources, healthcare, and support services” why are we cutting funding to those things for the broader college community?
This will go nowhere, it’s lightweight, low impact showboating by Baumgartner so that he can tell his district he tries to do something to help WSU and other small schools, while not touching anything that his leadership cares about, so there’s no risk of incurring the wrath of the boss.
Establish a National Standards Commission: Creates an independent commission, including student-athlete representation, empowered to set uniform national standards for collegiate athletics.
What enforcement authority will it have? And how is it going to implement any change in light of the court decisions that led to NIL? And, what authority exists to allow this level of control over a market/industry? EDIT: Two industries actually, since this covers both athletics (which it could be argued are a commodity or good - although I think that’s a weak argument) as well as broadcasting.
Implement Equitable NIL Revenue Sharing: Pools NIL revenues nationally and redistributes them equally to all student-athletes—ensuring equal shares for high-profile stars, women’s sports athletes, freshmen in non-revenue sports, and team backups alike.
This sounds like socialism, so no republicans will support it…unless they get paid. And how does this fit within the court decisions that led to NIL? Using historical examples from WSU, why should Ryan Leaf and Steve Birnbaum get the same money?
End Exploitative Conference Realignments: Requires athletic conferences to operate within single time zones, drastically reducing travel burdens and prioritizing student-athletes' academic and physical well-being.
So, Wisconsin and Minnesota have to leave the Big 10? The Badgers can’t travel the 400 miles to play Michigan in conference, but would be OK to travel 1,200 to play Texas? Using time zones as the delimiter is dumb, because they’re all longer north to south than they are east to west, and because teams that are pretty close to each other might cross time zones. This would prevent WSU and Boise state from being in the same conference…but WSU could be in a conference with San Diego State.
EDIT: this again impacts broadcasting, as it could have significant impacts on the value of media contracts. Possible commerce clause implications here.
Cap Excessive Coaching Salaries: Sets reasonable limits on coaching salaries, reallocating savings to student-athlete educational resources, healthcare, and support services
Who decides what’s excessive, and on what basis? What other industry sets a cap on manager salaries, and was that cap created through legislative action? If this is done, are we next going to start looking at CEO salaries in other industries? If we’re pretending we’re concerned about funding to “student-athlete educational resources, healthcare, and support services” why are we cutting funding to those things for the broader college community?
This will go nowhere, it’s lightweight, low impact showboating by Baumgartner so that he can tell his district he tries to do something to help WSU and other small schools, while not touching anything that his leadership cares about, so there’s no risk of incurring the wrath of the boss.
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Yup. Baumgartner should try to do something legislatively that actually benefits Americans and especially those that are struggling rather than trying to draw attention to himself by talking about an issue that’s a look-at-the-squirrel distraction at best. He should get some balls and stand up to the clowns that are wrecking our economy and trashing our federal government.
Jeezus H effing Christ. You’re conflating funding for education and the ever deepening corruption of college athletics. That’s Uber-level stupid.
Baumgartner is nothing more than a self-promoting attention whore. That was made abundantly clear by his grandstanding during the Robert Barber fiasco.
Isn't it a part of an elected official's responsibility to root out corruption? Or are you just ok with certain kinds of corruption?
So can I mark you down in the do-nothing Patty Murray camp?
It is also noted that the some of the biggest perpetrators of the collusion and corruption in college athletics are the broadcast networks which DO fall under the purview of government oversight.
It’s very simple. Our government has been failing to provide any real help to its citizens for decades now. Why should a US House member waste time and valuable resources/bandwidth on an issue that does nothing for the greater good of Americans let alone his own constituents? Baumgartner’s position is a complete joke and dead end as outlined by 95 above.
Has this revelation magically come to you in the last 104 days?
So what is the solution to the corruption in college athletics of which you speak?
No point... everything is fair game and I like their policies and the other stuff is just noise, right ?
Thanks for this summary. After reading, I agree that this is a ridiculous set of parameters. Replace the admittedly toothless NCAA? How about fixing it instead? And the same time zone conference thing - that is just dumb.
I never was a fan of Baumgartner, fellow Coug or not. Guy was always running for some office. Just another self-serving, grandstanding politician.
Not my problem. You should expect better from an elected official to the federal government. The 5th district has been nothing but a series of jokes since Foley.
The solution is to hand it jver to the good Samaritans like Elon and other who will outrightly exploit for their own interest
Why? Because this message board is the Seattle area/Yakima/Kansas/North Idaho The View Cosplayers Anti-Trump Resistence Front. With enough inane posts, Trump will break. Guaranteed.
I will say that I've cut back on my conversations here. FWIW, there is a part of me that just likes to debate.....even on stupid items where there is no point...and it's obvious that some others fall in that camp.
There is also the delusional part of my mind where I try to convince myself that there will be a point where the other side takes a deep breath and realizes that while Democrats and liberals do have their frustratingly stupid moments, it's a different thing than what is happening in the White House right now. I get the opposition to a lot of progressive politics. I do not and can not understand why Trump is the solution that they find to be best. Even the lame sh!t about him being the next pope. He's obviously trolling everyone...but why in the f#ck would you want a President doing sh!t like that on their official communication pages? The fact that they'll embrace him doing sh!t that would get any other person removed from office and potentially into prison boggles the mind and the logical part of me just can't help but fight against it.
Is the Republican Party really that much of a sh!tfest right now that they can't do better than Donald Trump? The good news is that his recent interviews show that he knows that his time is running out and he can't run again. There's only 1360 more days of this bullsh!t.
Ah yes. I forgot how triggered you guys get when Nazi Germany is brought up. Since that offends you so, a little social experiment you can try…go out in public somewhere and start yelling obscenities/picking a fight with someone other than one of your old white buddies. Yell some racist shit, make some physical threats…Then look around and see what happens.
A few people will take your side because there are that many assholes. A few people will get in the middle of it and tell you to knock it off. And most people will stand around and pull their phones out and record it.
This isn’t Nazi Germany issue this is a human psychology issue that’s always been and always will be. And self serving assholes and wannabe despots like Trump depend on the majority standing around picking their noses.
The opposite of triggered. And you seem admit you're just flat out lying here.
This is a genuine request, because I can't keep up with whatever part of the Trump multiverse you inhabit on a day to day basis. Is this:
1. Trump = Hitler?
2. Putin = Hitler, and Trump is a Russian asset?
3. Something else?
If 3. a one sentence summary would be appreciated.
Gibby, Gibby, Gibby. Just because the Mighty Loyal One slipped up with one (funny) political post doesn't mean you have to break your promise to refrain from them.
I've lived up to my part of the bargain.Gibby, Gibby, Gibby. Just because the Mighty Loyal One slipped up with one (funny) political post doesn't mean you have to break your promise to refrain from them.
Lying about what? Did we all imagine Trump slinging Trump ‘28 swag? How about being the next pope? The guy thinks he’s the chosen one he literally said it out loud, and he continues to say and post stuff that demonstrates he believes it.
Oh…but he’s just trolling. Lol…The only one who’s lying is you to yourself that you aren’t in a f’n cult.
One thing I've learned in my many years on this earth is that a large percentage of our voting Nation cast their vote on a few key policies as opposed to the entire scope of them.
For example, if they're Pro-Life to the extreme where they consider abortion to be murder, they're voting Republican. You're not going to move them off of that hill. If you're trans, like one of my children is, there's a high probability you're voting Democrat. I find that it's like that, even on less dramatic level, with most people.
For example, if they're Pro-Life to the extreme where they consider abortion to be murder, they're voting Republican. You're not going to move them off of that hill. If you're trans, like one of my children is, there's a high probability you're voting Democrat. I find that it's like that, even on less dramatic level, with most people.
Completely true. That's why we only hear about a couple of issues every election cycle. Immigration and abortion are popular ones. Gay/trans rights have been popular lately, including same-sex marriage. Some flavor of "the economy" is usually in the mix, but it's almost always a tiny facet - taxes, inflation, cost of living - rather than the actual economy. Even if you go to a candidate's website - including presidential candidates - the portion of the page that talks about "the issues" rarely covers more than 6-8 things.
I go to their websites, every election. I read their statements and platforms. Hardest part about voting for me is to find the candidate who I can generally agree with and not have a stance that I completely disagree with. It was really hard in 2024, because of the 10 candidates I felt like 8 of them may be certifiable lunatics and the other 2 were borderline.
You gonna answer any of the REAL questions I asked you, or just keep flipping around and asking bullshit questions because you have no answers that suit your narrative?
Cute Quips incoming!
This strays from the original point (as if that’s different), but….has anyone else been to Alcatraz?
I was just there a month ago for the kids spring break, and there’s no way that place is getting reopened. It got shut down because it was expensive to operate, and that’s not going to be any different today. On top of that, most of the facilities have been allowed to decay. It would be cheaper and easier to build a new prison than to make Alcatraz operational.
Besides….whats wrong with ADX Florence, or Pelican Bay?
I want to believe that the whole Alcatraz thing was just another outrageous comment to get people to pay attention. Problem is that when you keep saying stupid and crazy shit, people just believe you’re stupid and crazy.
I was just there a month ago for the kids spring break, and there’s no way that place is getting reopened. It got shut down because it was expensive to operate, and that’s not going to be any different today. On top of that, most of the facilities have been allowed to decay. It would be cheaper and easier to build a new prison than to make Alcatraz operational.
Besides….whats wrong with ADX Florence, or Pelican Bay?
I want to believe that the whole Alcatraz thing was just another outrageous comment to get people to pay attention. Problem is that when you keep saying stupid and crazy shit, people just believe you’re stupid and crazy.
I asked first. See post 69. And an answer to that question is really necessary to have any further conversation. Trump doesn't live in my head. He lives in yours (and in other regulars of this board).
Nah. He doesn’t live in your head you just can’t stand any criticism directed towards him and have an excuse lined up for every failure…leadership, policy, or personal. But he’s not at all in your head 😂. Cultists gonna cult.
It’s hard to delineate anymore between shiny distractions and ideas that are born out of pure stupidity. Who TF knows. Little bit of both I suppose.
If anyone can raise money for it the Pope can though…
