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My guess is Alamo. If it had been an exciting game maybe but not the way we got run.
Still think that you are going the Fiesta . The CFP may not be great but they are not blind. Everyone could see the elements were a major factor in this game and it is not going to favor an offense that relies on passing .
That plus can not see the CFP jumping 9 wins teams over WSU at this point. Most of those teams are capped at 9 wins
If you are in game of hand wringing then hope FSU upsets Florida , but personally do not even thing that you need
for that to happen.
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In what world are college football voters so checked into Cougar football that they’re giving us the benefit of the doubt on a 2-score home loss? Same people who voted for LSU and OU like WSU didn’t exist.
Would love to get the Fiesta and UCF to shut their damned fans up.
Yes PingDude you haven't been around Coug football long enough to know what happens next. We might as well be 6-6 in the eyes of the national media now.
Wow, we have people talking smack about players and calling them wussies but I'm not liking the evidence I'm seeing here about our fans. WSU is 10-2 and is currently ranked #8 and will probably fall 3-4 spots to #11 or 12 this week. As others have mentioned, the weather will be taken into account and our overall body of work will be looked at. If #8 WSU should be concerned about losing, shouldn't #10 Ohio State be just as concerned? West Virginia lost yesterday as well so they aren't jumping us. Texas is going to get beaten by Oklahoma in their rematch next week (I hope). Barring chaos in the next week or so, following is one guess at the final rankings after conference championships.
#1 - 13-0 Alabama
#2 - 13-0 Clemson
#3 - 12-0 Notre Dame
#4 - 12-1 Michigan
#5 - 12-1 Oklahoma
#6 - 11-2 Georgia
#7 - 10-2 LSU
#8 - 12-0 UCF
#9 - 9-3 Florida
#10 - 10-3 Washington
#11 - 10-2 WSU
#12 - 9-3 Penn State
#13 - 10-2 Ohio State
#14 - 9-3 Kentucky
#15 - 9-4 Texas
Even if they put us at #13 behind Texas and Penn State this week, that won't matter as long as OU wins next week. I don't believe that they put Ohio State in ahead of us in an NY6 bowl game. They did beat Penn State by 1 point earlier in the season, but the rest of their season is crap. Minshew is still a good story and Leach is still a coach that makes for an interesting runup to a bowl.
NY6 Bowl Games
Orange - Alabama vs Michigan
Cotton - Clemson vs ND
Rose - UW vs Penn State
Sugar - Georgia vs Oklahoma
Peach - LSU vs UCF (this could be WSU instead)
Fiesta - Florida vs WSU (this could be UCF instead)
We need Utah to beat BYU and get to 9-3 and we need Stanford to win out to get to 8-4 (or Cal to get to 8-4). That would give us three wins against teams with 8+ wins. That compares favorably to any other team that we'd be competing against for a spot. It would be helpful if Florida lost to FSU or LSU were to get housed by Texas A&M because we don't really "need" four SEC teams in the NY6. LSU's sole good win at this point is over Georgia and they have a decent win over 8-4 Mississippi State. Other than that, their schedule sucks. A loss to A&M may cause them to fall below us.
The interesting quandary is what to do with Penn State and Ohio State. Both teams have a lot of mediocre wins. Each is likely to have only 4 wins (at most) over bowl teams. If Wyoming and Arizona both win this weekend, we'll have six wins over bowl bound teams. Ohio State beat Penn State in Happy Valley, so it wouldn't surprise me to see Penn State actually drop a spot in the rankings without losing and with teams above them losing. I figure the #12 spot goes to one of those B1G teams.
Or I could be wrong and the committee may decide to have 3 B1G teams and only 1 Pac-12 team despite the fact that neither Penn State or Ohio State really looks great at this point. We'll know a lot more on Tuesday of course.
#1 - 13-0 Alabama
#2 - 13-0 Clemson
#3 - 12-0 Notre Dame
#4 - 12-1 Michigan
#5 - 12-1 Oklahoma
#6 - 11-2 Georgia
#7 - 10-2 LSU
#8 - 12-0 UCF
#9 - 9-3 Florida
#10 - 10-3 Washington
#11 - 10-2 WSU
#12 - 9-3 Penn State
#13 - 10-2 Ohio State
#14 - 9-3 Kentucky
#15 - 9-4 Texas
Even if they put us at #13 behind Texas and Penn State this week, that won't matter as long as OU wins next week. I don't believe that they put Ohio State in ahead of us in an NY6 bowl game. They did beat Penn State by 1 point earlier in the season, but the rest of their season is crap. Minshew is still a good story and Leach is still a coach that makes for an interesting runup to a bowl.
NY6 Bowl Games
Orange - Alabama vs Michigan
Cotton - Clemson vs ND
Rose - UW vs Penn State
Sugar - Georgia vs Oklahoma
Peach - LSU vs UCF (this could be WSU instead)
Fiesta - Florida vs WSU (this could be UCF instead)
We need Utah to beat BYU and get to 9-3 and we need Stanford to win out to get to 8-4 (or Cal to get to 8-4). That would give us three wins against teams with 8+ wins. That compares favorably to any other team that we'd be competing against for a spot. It would be helpful if Florida lost to FSU or LSU were to get housed by Texas A&M because we don't really "need" four SEC teams in the NY6. LSU's sole good win at this point is over Georgia and they have a decent win over 8-4 Mississippi State. Other than that, their schedule sucks. A loss to A&M may cause them to fall below us.
The interesting quandary is what to do with Penn State and Ohio State. Both teams have a lot of mediocre wins. Each is likely to have only 4 wins (at most) over bowl teams. If Wyoming and Arizona both win this weekend, we'll have six wins over bowl bound teams. Ohio State beat Penn State in Happy Valley, so it wouldn't surprise me to see Penn State actually drop a spot in the rankings without losing and with teams above them losing. I figure the #12 spot goes to one of those B1G teams.
Or I could be wrong and the committee may decide to have 3 B1G teams and only 1 Pac-12 team despite the fact that neither Penn State or Ohio State really looks great at this point. We'll know a lot more on Tuesday of course.
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In no dream scenario does a tOSU team with the same record as our beloved Cougs get ranked behind them. The east coast bias has been blatant this year, I just can't see us getting any respect at this point.
You do realize that 1 loss Ohio State has been ranked behind 1 loss WSU for several weeks now?
Now, Ohio State has been kicking Michigan's butt today (even though Michigan just scored 14 points in about 10 seconds just now). If Ohio State goes ahead of us, it still begs the question as to whether or not the CFP committee would put three B1G teams in.
If you can't get to Phoenix, a city in conference, with a blind resume at least equal to any other option, Larry Scott NEEDS to be fired. From a cannon.
WSU and UCF would be a great matchup.
Both teams are great stories and both were snubbed much of the year when it came to being considered a playoff team. Both should be rewarded with a New Year's game for double digit wins.
Both teams are great stories and both were snubbed much of the year when it came to being considered a playoff team. Both should be rewarded with a New Year's game for double digit wins.
For what it's worth, I read an article that said that in the CFP era, every team ranked #9 or higher has been invited to an NY6 but only about 1/2 of the teams ranked 10-12 were invited. From the NY6 Bowl wikipedia page, here is the list of Top 12 teams left out (usually in favor of a G5 team):.
2014
#11 KSU (9-3)...would have been 3rd team from Big 12
2015
#10 UNC (11-2)...Notre Dame counts as an ACC team in the CFP....so UNC would have been 3rd ACC team in bowls.
#12 TCU (10-2) #16 Oklahoma State was 2nd in conference and represented Big 12 in Sugar Bowl. TCU would have been 3rd Big 12 team in NY6
2016
#10 CU (10-3)...would have been 3rd team from Pac 12
#12 Oklahoma State (9-3)......Sugar Bowl requested 2nd place SEC team (#14 Auburn)
2017
None....UCF was #12.....9-4 Stanford would have been left out if UCF had been one spot lower. (would have been 3rd team from Pac-12)
I don't know if any of the above means anything, but I don't believe that the B1G gets a 3rd team in and after reading the article, I think that Florida gets left out. I feel extremely confident that barring insanity, we make it to the Fiesta Bowl.
2014
#11 KSU (9-3)...would have been 3rd team from Big 12
2015
#10 UNC (11-2)...Notre Dame counts as an ACC team in the CFP....so UNC would have been 3rd ACC team in bowls.
#12 TCU (10-2) #16 Oklahoma State was 2nd in conference and represented Big 12 in Sugar Bowl. TCU would have been 3rd Big 12 team in NY6
2016
#10 CU (10-3)...would have been 3rd team from Pac 12
#12 Oklahoma State (9-3)......Sugar Bowl requested 2nd place SEC team (#14 Auburn)
2017
None....UCF was #12.....9-4 Stanford would have been left out if UCF had been one spot lower. (would have been 3rd team from Pac-12)
I don't know if any of the above means anything, but I don't believe that the B1G gets a 3rd team in and after reading the article, I think that Florida gets left out. I feel extremely confident that barring insanity, we make it to the Fiesta Bowl.
I hope you’re right Flat. I’ll get my hotel reservations just in case. Some good deals right now.
What happens to UCF when they lose to Memphis in the conf championship. Would they even get a new years six bid?? I'm not sure they would.
Looking at the playoff ranking. Will UW move past us? They may bump us out. Michigan and OSU will be ahead of us.....possibly Texas. I am nervous that we’ll be ranked around 14 with no real way of improving to the top 12 (mandatory for a bid).
I don’t think we drop 6 spots we may even stay ahead of UW
QUESTION IS
If Utah beats UW Utah is in the rose. At that point UW will definitely be below us at 9-4 vs 10-2. How does that shake out the bowls?
Alamo gets to choose in that scenario. Can’t believe they wouldn’t take us over UW based on record, Leach, Mississippi Mustache. Would be a dream diss. With that said, I hope we get the Fiesta and UW to the Alamo. unfortunately, UW will be favorites Friday.
No way. Georgia smashed Tech and will jump in at least until the SECCG. OU jumps as well. Maybe they go in between LSU and OU at #6?
