Hiring Freeze and more
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This does not sound good. Sounds like the PAC12 is dying from its own incompetence.
Hire shitty ADs and Presidents, get shitty results.
SC and UCLA got off the Titanic.
WSU has their own incompetence to answer for. Mismanagement of budget.
The Pac has to pay back Fox over 40 million, and there may be more, not our Admin's fault, you can blame that on the accounting department in the Pac, that adminstration is the source of a lot of problems for everyone in the conference, what a cluster F. that is.
Saw the thread title and assumed it was gonna be CSB making a case for why WSU should have hired Hugh Freeze instead of Jake Dickert 
Didn't see an article by Scott Hood or his stand-in, but Brand X did have a story on this situation and they made it sound like this should blow over fairly quickly.
One good thing is that the money for the IPF has been raised and salted away, so no reason to think there will be a hold-up on the IPF groundbreaking ceremony in September
Didn't see an article by Scott Hood or his stand-in, but Brand X did have a story on this situation and they made it sound like this should blow over fairly quickly.
One good thing is that the money for the IPF has been raised and salted away, so no reason to think there will be a hold-up on the IPF groundbreaking ceremony in September
Need to start getting rid of tenure and all of the cushy perks it provides.
Seems like the presidents group may have stayed too long with Commissioner Larry Scott.
Of course the presidents might reply that hindsight is always 20/20
Listen to KJR with John Canzano. He makes sense of it all .
Said state of Washington unlike other schools have to report their budget and it will come out sooner than later they were going to have a deficit in the athletic department . Schultz getting ahead of gev story .
That message from Schulz was to rev facility and the reporter got it from a facility member .
Said shortfall has a lot to do with money wsu has to pay back to Comcast.
But at same time a guy chun hired last September Brent Meyer’s to be cfo stepped down in April . Not sure if he was not competent in 8 months, didn’t know his job or something worse
Thanks ED
Do you agree this will end up being a nothing-burger, similar to when Coach Leach tweeted out that video with President Obama that had been edited for clarity?
Some people got upset and I think even Brand X went after CML for a bit, but it ended up being forgotten pretty quickly
Do you agree this will end up being a nothing-burger, similar to when Coach Leach tweeted out that video with President Obama that had been edited for clarity?
Some people got upset and I think even Brand X went after CML for a bit, but it ended up being forgotten pretty quickly
Chop… I am the wrong person to ask. I thought wsu would have been moved to the wac before Walden played for the Pac 10 championship In 1981z Walden saved wsu back then . We make the wsu budget and facilities today look like usc vs what we had in 1981. I am not joking when I tell you I’m 1983 a rehab of facilities were the assistant coaches going down to Rima paint ,purchased severa gallons of paint and painted their own offices.
They shared a grass facility with the intramural department .
While WSU means everything to us, in what’s important for tv dollars wsu and Oregon state bring nothing to the table .
We have way over achieved sun this conference which I always thought was the most difficult to recruit in .
Would it surprised me by 2027 if we are in a lower conference . Sadly… no.
But the story today just says we have more budget issues which is nothing new at wsu .
Great post Ed.
I know he's taken a lot of heat, but I've always respected what "the Mississippi Riverboat Gambler" achieved at WSU with his Git R Done approach.
I just don't see the Big 12 not inviting WSU if the Pac-12 is poached
Too much national brand recognition with the GameDay flag, etc.
Chop other than the game day flag… and it is a great tradition but what does wsu bring the Big 12? Large donor like Oregon?
TV’s and large stadium like UW. Crazy Dan base ? They won’t be enamored with a half full stadium after half.
No TV sets, no money means wsu won’t have a ton of alternatives .
WSU brings more to the table today than we did back in the 1980s when attendance and donations were the main budget drivers. Our media viewership numbers are strong, so that'll help our cause as it relates to a conference wanting to tap into the Seattle market. Whether that's enough for the Big12 remains to be seen, but it'll put us in a strong position within the re-spun Pac/Mountain West hybrid league if it comes to that.
WSU offers a lot of TV sets. I believe we ranked #32 in TV viewership last season.
Good info CP
People understandably hate the term "C***** It" ... but neutral fans love the idea of watching an exciting team/brand playing where a wild and shocking finish is always a possibility
TV execs and SportsCenter talking heads feel the same way
WSU football is nationally-known even if some folks in the state of Washington try to downplay it
Just my opinion
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Trials, tribulation and setbacks. It's part of life.
It will pass and we move on. No need to worry or have fear.
It's not a perfect world, just a minor blip and setback.
Trials, tribulation and setbacks. It's part of life.
It will pass and we move on. No need to worry or have fear.
It's not a perfect world, just a minor blip and setback.
As some of you know, I am a now-retired accountant and worked at WSU for many years. The fact that this "CFO" of 8 months resigned in April really gives me pause. But WTF? the former "CFO" of Athletics, Anne McCoy (nice person, I knew her) is still there after 20+ years. So again, WTF? How can you not account for revenues and expenses? And why did they even need a new "CFO"? It's not as if we have added a ton of sports or whatever. Talk about administrative bloat.
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When the TV deal was reached in 2011, and the 2.7 billion figure was announced, the biggest in college sports to date, a common theme on this board was "it seems way too good to be true." A four fold increase from one season to the next. You'd think that Floyd and Moos, knowing the actual terms of the deal, would have pumped the breaks, and warned us that it was a "lollipops and rainbows" estimate, and actually waited to see what revenues actually rolled in? Instead they committed to $125 million in upgrades, more than actually ever received, while downsizing the stadium capacity, "funded entirely by premium seating and TV Revenues. " If it wasn't so catastrophic, you have to laugh!
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Wait .. you retired in Yakima ? Did you do it to be close to Yaki?As some of you know, I am a now-retired accountant and worked at WSU for many years. The fact that this "CFO" of 8 months resigned in April really gives me pause. But WTF? the former "CFO" of Athletics, Anne McCoy (nice person, I knew her) is still there after 20+ years. So again, WTF? How can you not account for revenues and expenses? And why did they even need a new "CFO"? It's not as if we have added a ton of sports or whatever. Talk about administrative bloat.
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And if I were to guess Anne was going to be forced out but I would suspect something popped up in the first 8 months on the job for Brent Meyer’s
Well…it’s hard to manage funds that aren’t there.As some of you know, I am a now-retired accountant and worked at WSU for many years. The fact that this "CFO" of 8 months resigned in April really gives me pause. But WTF? the former "CFO" of Athletics, Anne McCoy (nice person, I knew her) is still there after 20+ years. So again, WTF? How can you not account for revenues and expenses? And why did they even need a new "CFO"? It's not as if we have added a ton of sports or whatever. Talk about administrative bloat.
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To put some perspective on administrative bloat @ WSU for all campuses:As some of you know, I am a now-retired accountant and worked at WSU for many years. The fact that this "CFO" of 8 months resigned in April really gives me pause. But WTF? the former "CFO" of Athletics, Anne McCoy (nice person, I knew her) is still there after 20+ years. So again, WTF? How can you not account for revenues and expenses? And why did they even need a new "CFO"? It's not as if we have added a ton of sports or whatever. Talk about administrative bloat.
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2000 Administrative head count 831
2020 Administrative head count 2051
Some schools are far worse.
Nice link, Pimp. Meanwhile classifed staff numbers (lowly secretaries and custodians, etc., have dropped a bit and faculty/grad asst numbers have only nudged up a little. F-ing ridiculous.To put some perspective on administrative bloat @ WSU for all campuses:
2000 Administrative head count 831
2020 Administrative head count 2051
Some schools are far worse.
To put some perspective on administrative bloat @ WSU for all campuses:
2000 Administrative head count 831
2020 Administrative head count 2051
Some schools are far worse.
Fire them all and get winners.
Good lord. Undergrad enrollment is like 7500.
Obviously, the graduate programs are what Stanford is mainly. But, still. 10,000 staffers is nuts.
I think that’s what I read somewhere too. if Wikipedia is to be believed it’s something like 15,000+ admin staff vs 2,279 actual faculty.
It’s like medicine - patient care is no longer in the hands of Doctors - it’s insurance and administrators that rule. As an aside everybody ( unless you’re loaded) should be deeply concerned about the quality of care they will receive as they age because it’s terrible now and only going to get worse over time.
As in medicine, in higher ed the faculty have been edged out by the administrative class. A huge reason it’s so expensive. What got me looking at this was the nonsense at Stanford over a talk a conservative judge gave to a law class which went haywire and had to be mediated by some incompetent administrative clown with the title of “Associate Dean for Diversity, Equity and Inclusion”. WTF even is that?
There’s been a significant shift from classified staff to administrative professional staff (they’re easier to get rid of and don’t necessarily get regular raises), so the numbers might be a bit deceiving.
But where the bloat has really occurred is in the executive salaries. Whole lot of money going to people who don’t do any actual work
You're singing my tune.
I've been saying this for a long time.
You know how much those college DIE deans get paid? Upwards of $300k - $400k per year....to do nothing.
The TV ratings suggest that WSU does bring value to the league. Don't forget that a big piece of the Seattle market is WSU.
No wonder why tuition across the country is so bloated. They have to pay for all these staffers, most of whom I would think are not needed for the school to function properly.
Exactly. It's the same way with government and big corporations. Wokeism is destroying us. And meanwhile people keep voting for government candidates that support ripping them off. It's amazing.
Preaching to the choir buddy. I could tell you a few dozen stories. It was bad when I was there, and apparently has gotten much worse. Lots of people in high paid positions that don't know or do shit. I know some of them. Lifers sucking off the WSU tit. Schulz is a terrible leader. But hey, there is no accountability. In the corporate sector, if you aren't making money, heads roll. In Higher Ed, no such thing.
The thing that’s fun now is “equity raises.” At one time, this was when someone looked at salaries of highly paid administrators and said ‘Jill doesn’t make as much as Joe, and they have the same job. She needs a raise.”
Now, it’s “Bob doesn’t make as much as Joe. He needs a raise.” No discussion of competence, qualifications, or performance…they just need to have the same salary for comparable titles. And of course, all adjustments are to the highest comparable.
Even better is when new administrators get hired, and their salary has to be above the median for comparable positions. Again, no consideration for qualifications.
This process is only for administrators (who also get annual raises). it does not apply to CS and AP staff who do actual work.
A large majority of the administrative positions are the result of equity and inclusion program adherence and reporting.
