Johnny Football article on Yahoo

[BiggsCoug]

So I was reading this morning about JF's handler/best friend. He said he conservatively estimates JF could've made $2.3M if he'd accepted gifts, jobs, etc while at A&M. He thinks it could've been $8M to $10M if JF actually had an agent and the NCAA allowed athletes to make money. He says $8M to $10M because corporations like McDonald's or Nike could then become involved.

I see this happening down the road. The NCAA has painted themselves into a corner once again by running commercials saying 99% of all athletes go pro in something other then sports. So why are you limiting their highest earning years????

What will happen in major college football when athletes can take the money? Movie roles, spokesman jobs, appearances, shoe deals.... Will schools with the talent be the focus? Will players from small markets get noticed?

It isn't just male sports either. Do you know how much money is in make up, clothing, lotions, potions and crap marketed towards women and young girls? What happens when Maybelline or Revlon shows up and offers $5M for an ad campaign to your best women's volleyball players?

What happens when WSU's best football player also has a 3.8 gpa in IT??? Does Paul Allen show up and offer him an opportunity?

What happens when your star player takes down $8M and your coach makes $3M????

 

[chinookpirate]

You've given a good example why football as we know it, will end.

 

[405 Coug]

"Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered",

Eventually all the greed will catch up to everyone, and college sports as we know it will change dramaticly. As to how it all ends, who knows, but there are too many dollars chasing after these programs and just like a financial bubble it will eventually burst.

 

[dgibbons]

I don't think it would have been that much. You could find a professional athlete for that kind of coin, that was not a F-up.


And not to be rude, but I don't think female athletes can command that type of money. Models, for sure. But there aren't many female athletes out there that look like Giselle.
This post was edited on 12/12 1:39 PM by dgibbons

 

[Cougatron]

People have been saying this stuff for years but instead millions in was hundreds of thousands.

This will only end when the money dries up, and as long as people are watching, buying tickets, buying merch the money isn't going to stop.

The only major money sports where you can go pro after 1 year if that is basketball currently, and look how much that has hurt the college game. Think about how good it would be if people had to stay at least till their junior year.

The frenzy and quality of play would be gigantic, but its the NBA who ruined college basketball.

The NFL had a better setup, and for that college football is the massive breadwinner in college sports.

Nobody would know who the hell Johnny Football is/was if it weren't for college football as it stands now. It was that opportunity that made him the notoriety to get the money he has available to him today. So how much is that opportunity worth to him? That's what I want to know.

How much was he willing to pay to have 100,000+ fill a stadium to watch him. That's what A&M gave him They would have fielded a QB no matter what, and 100k would have shown up to watch that guy... so really I don't give a damn about kids getting a free education, a free opportunity to showcase their skills, and a free podium to build a name for themselves and crying about not getting more.

 

[BiggsCoug]

You do know that 100,000 people won't show up to watch an empty field right? Without the players there is no crowd. It is a partnership in which each side brings equal parts. To say otherwise is ignorant.

 

[Cougatron]

Originally posted by BiggsCoug:
You do know that 100,000 people won't show up to watch an empty field right? Without the players there is no crowd. It is a partnership in which each side brings equal parts. To say otherwise is ignorant.

They show up to watch Texas A&M. People watched before Johnny Football, and people are watching after. People received a degree from the University of Texas A&M not the University of Johnny Football.

The players don't put up equal parts. And I'll prove it.

Most athletics departments pertaining to other sports. LOSE money. It's football that makes the money to pay for the other things. So all those other athletes besides the football ones cost the athletic department money.

The only reason football is as profitable as it is is because of the TV deals.

Those TV deals aren't with the players they are with the schools. People watch Michigan because its Michigan. People watch Texas because its Texas. The players that make a name for themselves are a by product. Not the driving factor.

What drives people are the rivalries, the local ties to the community, and the communal aspect that the school colors, insignia, and brand bring to the table. Players come and go, but the schools stay the same.

 

[BiggsCoug]

So Texas could stop giving scholarships, field a team of walk ons and they'd still pack a stadium and land lucrative tv deals? You're fooling yourself if you think talent of the person performing has nothing to do with the money coming in.

I assure you there is a point where fans won't buy tickets, people won't watch tv and businesses won't buy ads if the product is that bad. If you think talent or quality of product doesn't matter you're wrong.

 

[Cougatron]

scholarships have always been given. It's THE compensation. People watched football before ESPN. In fact its been played for 100 years. The rose bowl has been a big event for a century.

TV just made it even bigger and pumped in the money, but it was schools and their tradition that made that happen.

If players are so important tell me what do more people watch the National Championship or the Heisman? It's not just about the players. It's about the schools, the bands and the history.

When we played Washington in the apple cup when we were both bad in 2008 32k were in attendance. To watch two of the WORST teams in the country play.

You want to add money to the mix. Who are going to go represent the players in these endorsements deals? Agents? Sure let's bring in the shark middle men to negotiate. How do you think Coach's are paid so much. Now players will have reps. Okay now big schools with cash will just buy the top players outright instead of doing it through facilities.

Hey that system works great for the Yankees won't it be great to have a system like that where for a 4star it will be at least 500k... EACH.

Oh you want to now "make it even" and put caps in place.

People are still putting cash in coffee cups now (see Tosh Lupoi) on the recruiting trail and you want to bring in agents.

The same agents who gave Reggie Bush sic figures and then took away the national championship from USC and the Heisman when he didn't sight with them after.

Ultimately the players should get nothing. The opportunity is payment enough. Johnny Football is making millions with his opportunity, but if you start paying first before they have done anything you aren't making the system better or more fair. You are asking for a complete ruining of college athletics.

Soccer team? Well its losing us money might as well cut it so we can use that 200k to get that 4 star.

Don't think it will happen? It will, and in a bad bad bad way.

 

[BiggsCoug]

I'm not saying it's right or if it's wrong. I'm saying both parties bring equal value to the table. Without one there is no other. What is certain is that one side is grossly compensated and the other is not. It is not equitable at all. Right or wrong, legally the NCAA is in trouble. What it looks like in the future who knows. Change doesn't always mean worse. And just cause something works for someone else doesn't mean it works for you.

If the players in the final four decided to go on strike, how much pressure do the schools get from the TV CEOs? No kids, no game. No game, no advertising dollars. You can crow from your rooftop about what was, the day is coming when the talent will get their cut or they will not perform. NFL scab teams didn't go over so well, how will that work at the college level???

 

[SCglory]

"If players are so important tell me what do more people watch the
National Championship or the Heisman? It's not just about the players.
It's about the schools, the bands and the history."

Then you quote the AC with 32K in attendance as more "proof?"

Look, the FACTS of the matter are that talented players produce wins. Winning fills seats and drives revenue.

#1 Don't use WSU attendance figures to prove ANYTHING as it related to college football. That just makes you look silly. That's like citing New Hampshire's farm stats to prove one's ideas about farming! Yeah, there are farms there, but....
#2 The truth is that football players put in MORE work, with MORE risk than about any other athlete there is. On any given play, you could lose your ability to run or walk normally for the rest of your life. And with that, they are the lowest compensated person in the ENTIRE chain of people who make money off of football! And that includes coaches and their families, the university, admins, TV crews and companies, advertisers, etc. THE LOWEST PAID ARE TAKING THE MOST RISK. Think about that.
#3 Your notion that an athlete's scholarship is compensation enough would be charmingly naive....how very 1925 of you....if it weren't so unethical and wrong-headed.






This post was edited on 12/13 8:34 AM by SCglory