Just out of curiosity, why are these recruiting threads on this board
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The sites have the scoop on the kids. Which is what you pay for.
The discuss around recruiting -- which is mainly positive, as this will be our best on paper class in a VERY LONG TIME -- is something we should all be happy for.
We haven't seen this quantity of talent since 98 and 99. That's my opinion anyway.
The discuss around recruiting -- which is mainly positive, as this will be our best on paper class in a VERY LONG TIME -- is something we should all be happy for.
We haven't seen this quantity of talent since 98 and 99. That's my opinion anyway.
Re: Why is it interesting?
Originally posted by froropmkr72:
Why is anything you post interesting???
Ed is a brand x subscriber, and that's fine, but I think his post is a bit of a jab at this site. Btw, all sites' free boards have considerable discussion on recruiting. Everyone makes their commitment lists public, and it's very easy to find recruiting videos without paying for it.
Partly because I as a uncertified member of the" Knothole Gang" like to post on the free board There are many like me for a myriad of reasons..I am sure that all boards have cheapskates and/or college students who cannot afford the payboard. I am sure that the payboard has more in depth information on recruits .It is also tough times for some lower income family members .Everyone here ,with a few exceptions, are true coug fans and come here because they are interested in recruiting. news..If one cuts off the free board,one will lose many posters and followers of this board.So i beleive that all sports boards are performing a vital function in keeping interest in coug athletic programs aliveIf Mr Ed is an elitist and a well heeled member of Davos,he is free to ask these kinds of questions.
Just seems kind of strange to me...
We love the Cougs, we want to talk about them, we want information about them, but many want it for free. I guess it is about choices for some. Two fewer lattes a month for some, and they have a subscription. One less pizza at pizza pipeline for others and they scrape up the ten bills for a subscription.
I come from an era where I begged for coverage. Now that we have it we don't want to pay for it. As the founders of Cougzone found out free isn't a great model. I am looking long term viability for any site where they depend on subscriptions-and if we don't pay, they don't survive.
How you keep the football program alive isn't simply through discussion, but through discussion and paying these people what they deserve for their time. Just a philosophy of mine, I could be wrong.
Let me ask you, what happens if a board goes by the way side because there are no dollars for coverage, and no one wants to continue to work for pennies on the dollar. How is that good for Cougar football?
If one cuts off the free board, so what? What happens if one cuts off the free board here, and they somehow get smart and cut off what should be premium discussions on brand x, how does zero coverage for Cougar football make sense?
Speaking of Brand X, for many years I thought they were way ahead of this forum in terms of content. Yes, I felt like when Cougzone was run before I was "donating" my money, as truth be told I didn't get a lot of bang for the buck. But I always viewed that as a much better option than what I remember seeing in the Seattle Times in the mid 80's, where if they used the word Cougars they would have to stop the presses.
And for Brand X today, yes, I still pay them my money. I don't go there often, and I would say I donate my money versus get huge return on my investment. 13 posts in 2014, 1 in 2013, 1 post in 2012, , 2 in 2011, and 8 in 2011 I thinks tells the story that I don't go there often, but gladly give them the money cause I think it is shortsighted not to. But just my opinion....
We love the Cougs, we want to talk about them, we want information about them, but many want it for free. I guess it is about choices for some. Two fewer lattes a month for some, and they have a subscription. One less pizza at pizza pipeline for others and they scrape up the ten bills for a subscription.
I come from an era where I begged for coverage. Now that we have it we don't want to pay for it. As the founders of Cougzone found out free isn't a great model. I am looking long term viability for any site where they depend on subscriptions-and if we don't pay, they don't survive.
How you keep the football program alive isn't simply through discussion, but through discussion and paying these people what they deserve for their time. Just a philosophy of mine, I could be wrong.
Let me ask you, what happens if a board goes by the way side because there are no dollars for coverage, and no one wants to continue to work for pennies on the dollar. How is that good for Cougar football?
If one cuts off the free board, so what? What happens if one cuts off the free board here, and they somehow get smart and cut off what should be premium discussions on brand x, how does zero coverage for Cougar football make sense?
Speaking of Brand X, for many years I thought they were way ahead of this forum in terms of content. Yes, I felt like when Cougzone was run before I was "donating" my money, as truth be told I didn't get a lot of bang for the buck. But I always viewed that as a much better option than what I remember seeing in the Seattle Times in the mid 80's, where if they used the word Cougars they would have to stop the presses.
And for Brand X today, yes, I still pay them my money. I don't go there often, and I would say I donate my money versus get huge return on my investment. 13 posts in 2014, 1 in 2013, 1 post in 2012, , 2 in 2011, and 8 in 2011 I thinks tells the story that I don't go there often, but gladly give them the money cause I think it is shortsighted not to. But just my opinion....
Re: Just seems kind of strange to me...
If you cut off this free board, and that free board, then someone else will make a free board, and they'll get the "revenue for clicks" ads that this one does.
I mean, on this page, there's a Yahoo! Auto and ASPCA ad- those aren't there because Rivals is animal friendly.
This post was edited on 1/22 3:05 PM by wulffui
If you cut off this free board, and that free board, then someone else will make a free board, and they'll get the "revenue for clicks" ads that this one does.
I mean, on this page, there's a Yahoo! Auto and ASPCA ad- those aren't there because Rivals is animal friendly.
This post was edited on 1/22 3:05 PM by wulffui
Re: Ah..with all this revenue that comes in from those advertisements
Yeah, with all of this ad money I can almost get a pitcher of Busch Light at the dirtiest dive bar in Seattle.
Re: Ah..with all this revenue that comes in from those advertisements
I'm surprised that whatever line of work Ed does isn't done for free. Talk about disrespecting someone....take what little money they're making already.
It shouldn't be free...that is the point of my original post...
The money a site gets from the advertisement isn't enough to buy a roll of toilet paper. They rely on the paid content. That is why all recruiting content I believe should be discussed on the paid board.
The money a site gets from the advertisement isn't enough to buy a roll of toilet paper. They rely on the paid content. That is why all recruiting content I believe should be discussed on the paid board.
Re: It shouldn't be free...that is the point of my original post...
Britt, you could probably correct me if I'm wrong but the stuff that is on this site that is free, is basically a carrot, man. It's meant to entice you so that you can read the in-depth articles and insight, as well as Britt's vast connections that put forth incredible nuggets of knowledge, by paying for, not only the pay board but other services within this domain.
Britt, you could probably correct me if I'm wrong but the stuff that is on this site that is free, is basically a carrot, man. It's meant to entice you so that you can read the in-depth articles and insight, as well as Britt's vast connections that put forth incredible nuggets of knowledge, by paying for, not only the pay board but other services within this domain.
Re: It shouldn't be free...that is the point of my original post...
Something like that. I guess I'd be willing to wager that my connections that I've built over the last year or so will consistently provide more recruiting inside information in a timely manner than other Washington State recruiting sites.
Re: It shouldn't be free...that is the point of my original post...
BTW, Britt HOLY CRAP on the 200 months of subscribing to WazzuWatch!!!! Over 16 years! That's impressive! I don't know if this is an indication that you are older than I thought or you were just reading up on WSU while your mama was wiping your behind. Lol!
BTW, Britt HOLY CRAP on the 200 months of subscribing to WazzuWatch!!!! Over 16 years! That's impressive! I don't know if this is an indication that you are older than I thought or you were just reading up on WSU while your mama was wiping your behind. Lol!
Re: It shouldn't be free...that is the point of my original post...
The nice thing about his reporting is he just makes is very simplistic, he doesn't write puff pieces like "5 STAR RUNNING BACK IS VISITING" or stuff like that. But he's really good at keeping tabs on who had in-homes and when, the number of recruits, who's visiting, and he'll throw together some stuff like he did last night about WSU history in recruiting. He's really worth the coverages between the two sites. He's working on having more coverage of WSU from Pullman, but he picks what he puts his efforts in.
I think that the Board's quality has gone up since he took over.I have a couple of close sources and friends and their kids who are now students at WSU. I was in Pullman this past summer and spent time talking and meeting with people whom i had not seen in quite some time. But i cannot consistently spend time uncovering the stuff he comes up with.So the in depth stuff is what you guys get on the paid board.
I remember those days. Salmon fishing and,crabbing on trips to Seattle and drinking in dive bars. Ah the life of a student when Seattle was not a tourist trap.
Fro...kind of my point...I am sorry you missed it....
It is the posters of the board who don't pay for content and what to get it free that are the one's disrespecting the hard work Britton puts forth. Indirectly what you are saying is "I love your work, and thanks for delivering it for free. I don't mind you not making money off this project as long as I get my contact delivered for free."
I simply think he and anyone who does this kind of work, knowing the hours they put in should be appropriately compensated.
It is the posters of the board who don't pay for content and what to get it free that are the one's disrespecting the hard work Britton puts forth. Indirectly what you are saying is "I love your work, and thanks for delivering it for free. I don't mind you not making money off this project as long as I get my contact delivered for free."
I simply think he and anyone who does this kind of work, knowing the hours they put in should be appropriately compensated.
Re: Ok, so now we know that Britton
You'll find me there, but in the more "clean" ones...but without a Busch Light...maybe a Hipster Water (PBR?) or a Vitamin R, because you know, I gotta upgrade from Pullman, right?
Re: Fro...kind of my point...I am sorry you missed it....
It would be disrespectful if I paid for membership, then discussed PREMIUM content on the free board. But, I'm not doing that. It would be disrespectful if I paid for a membership, then discussed PREMIUM content on another message board. But, I'm not doing that either.
Simply discussing recruiting on a message board is not disrespectful in any way, IMO.
Britton can choose what he wishes to post on the free board vs the premium board and I respect that.
How am I disrespecting him by posting about recruiting on the free board?
It would be disrespectful if I paid for membership, then discussed PREMIUM content on the free board. But, I'm not doing that. It would be disrespectful if I paid for a membership, then discussed PREMIUM content on another message board. But, I'm not doing that either.
Simply discussing recruiting on a message board is not disrespectful in any way, IMO.
Britton can choose what he wishes to post on the free board vs the premium board and I respect that.
Re: Fro...kind of my point...I am sorry you missed it....
It would be disrespectful if I paid for membership, then discussed PREMIUM content on the free board. But, I'm not doing that. It would be disrespectful if I paid for a membership, then discussed PREMIUM content on another message board. But, I'm not doing that either.
Simply discussing recruiting on a message board is not disrespectful in any way, IMO.
Britton can choose what he wishes to post on the free board vs the premium board and I respect that.
How am I disrespecting him by posting about recruiting on the free board?
It would be disrespectful if I paid for membership, then discussed PREMIUM content on the free board. But, I'm not doing that. It would be disrespectful if I paid for a membership, then discussed PREMIUM content on another message board. But, I'm not doing that either.
Simply discussing recruiting on a message board is not disrespectful in any way, IMO.
Britton can choose what he wishes to post on the free board vs the premium board and I respect that.
The problem is people are getting the milk for free...
Therein lies the problem. Unless this site has changed a great deal in terms of economic viability since Tony and Pat ran it, (certainly changed in content) I at one point knew the paid customers when Tony and Pat ran it. It may have increased. But looking who posts on the paid forum it sure seems like a lot of people are avoiding paying for the content.
Maybe Britton looks at it as a lost leader, similar to the turkey at Thanksgiving. But to sustain anyone who puts up the content, spends his days and nights writing this stuff, he can't continue to give it away. I am not talking short term, I am talking long term.
And by people not paying for it people are simply being shortsighted.
Therein lies the problem. Unless this site has changed a great deal in terms of economic viability since Tony and Pat ran it, (certainly changed in content) I at one point knew the paid customers when Tony and Pat ran it. It may have increased. But looking who posts on the paid forum it sure seems like a lot of people are avoiding paying for the content.
Maybe Britton looks at it as a lost leader, similar to the turkey at Thanksgiving. But to sustain anyone who puts up the content, spends his days and nights writing this stuff, he can't continue to give it away. I am not talking short term, I am talking long term.
And by people not paying for it people are simply being shortsighted.
Re: The problem is people are getting the milk for free...
Discussing public info and speculation on recruiting on the freeloader board is encouraged. Nobody is stealing.
Who is posting specific pay content?
Discussing public info and speculation on recruiting on the freeloader board is encouraged. Nobody is stealing.
Re: Ok, so now we know that Britton
Hey, I'm a fan of dive bars. The Busch Light reference was misguided -- I hate that stuff. I was a Keystone Light guy in college. The lightest beer I'm drinking these days is Manny's. I'm so glad it's Friday.
Re: The problem is people are getting the milk for free...
If you think the information I post on the free board is more valuable than Britton's premium content, then that is your mistake.
Again, how am I "giving away the milk for free"? I'm not posting any premium content that Britton has provided.
If you think the information I post on the free board is more valuable than Britton's premium content, then that is your mistake.
Fab....let me ask....
What happens to a site, take the name of this site out of the equation for just a second, if they don't have paid membership?
My limited business sense tells me they go out of business or sell, or give away the site. Do you agree or disagree?
I don't post all that much on the premium board, but I am sorry it just struck me as odd we have threads that my have ten posts a thread about recruiting on the free board, and we don't have a 1/3 of that on the paid board. Maybe as it exists it is a sustainable model and a good business practice and I am out of line.
What happens to a site, take the name of this site out of the equation for just a second, if they don't have paid membership?
My limited business sense tells me they go out of business or sell, or give away the site. Do you agree or disagree?
I don't post all that much on the premium board, but I am sorry it just struck me as odd we have threads that my have ten posts a thread about recruiting on the free board, and we don't have a 1/3 of that on the paid board. Maybe as it exists it is a sustainable model and a good business practice and I am out of line.
Re: Ok, so now we know that Britton
Ok, that is better. Dive bars are fun, dirty dive bars??? Not sure about that one. I am into amber beers myself, but will drink light or regular if that is what is there. We do live in an area that is one of the best of all the states for micro brews (and wines). Not too long ago, some friends and I made hard apple cider. It was fun and good.
what conspiracy theory did you whip up in that head of yours this time.
I recall a question by you very interested or curios about my postings on Cfan. Was there a point? Now you find it "interesting" about my concern. I simply asked a fairly simple question as to why people discussed on this forum instead of the paid forum. Others asked questions, and in the case of Fro said I disrespected BR. My only point to Wulffui is the paid advertising doesn't pay for crap, and it was naïve to bring that into the conversation.
Concern? Britton is a big boy and he will either make a strong go at it, or discover like Pat and Tony without a good deal of subscriptions it is volunteer work. I would think for hard core Cougs who love recruiting the money is a small investment for the time these people put into it.
I recall a question by you very interested or curios about my postings on Cfan. Was there a point? Now you find it "interesting" about my concern. I simply asked a fairly simple question as to why people discussed on this forum instead of the paid forum. Others asked questions, and in the case of Fro said I disrespected BR. My only point to Wulffui is the paid advertising doesn't pay for crap, and it was naïve to bring that into the conversation.
Concern? Britton is a big boy and he will either make a strong go at it, or discover like Pat and Tony without a good deal of subscriptions it is volunteer work. I would think for hard core Cougs who love recruiting the money is a small investment for the time these people put into it.
Re: Fab....let me ask....
It's his decision to have the free board, not mine. As long as it's here, it will be used. As long as no one is sharing premium information he's provided, I don't see the issue.
With all due respect to Britton, it is not MY responsibility to make sure HIS business is successful.
It's his decision to have the free board, not mine. As long as it's here, it will be used. As long as no one is sharing premium information he's provided, I don't see the issue.
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