Kind of on topic - college athletes gambling

[Loyal Coug1]

Hope this meets your on topic, non political criteria, Spain.

Iowa, Iowa St. investigating athletes gambling

Iowa and Iowa State announced investigations into possible gambling by athletes across several sports on Monday.

www.espn.com

So, so what if athletes bet on stuff. Same with the pros. The rules should be that you can't bet against your own team in your sport. Beyond that, who should give a shit? Personally I never gamble, don't even buy lottery tickets, but why should athletes, college or pro, be prohibited from a little harmless wagering? I mean hell, you should even be able to bet FOR your team to win. WTH is the harm in any of that? Meanwhile the NCAA is destroying college athletics with NIL and the portal.

 

[SaveFerris]

The problem is when it drives performance or decisions. I think Pete Rose said he always bet on the Red's to win. How did that impact his in-game decisions? What about the times he didn't bet the game?

With athletes, it always seems to fall on shaving points like with Headache Smith at ASU and others.

 

[PeteTheChop]

My dad said Coach Wulff had to be shaving points in that USC game in 2008 where USC scored almost 40 points in the first half and the Cougs barely threw the ball.

He didn't know about the roster CPW inherited or the injury problems as the season went on

 

[PeteTheChop]

So, so what if athletes bet on stuff. Same with the pros. The rules should be that you can't bet against your own team in your sport. Beyond that, who should give a shit? Personally I never gamble, don't even buy lottery tickets, but why should athletes, college or pro, be prohibited from a little harmless wagering? I mean hell, you should even be able to bet FOR your team to win. WTH is the harm in any of that?

That might be a slippery slope when the kid loses a bunch of money betting on his own team and is under pressure to make it up the next week

 

[Loyal Coug1]

My dad said Coach Wulff had to be shaving points in that USC game in 2008 where USC scored almost 40 points in the first half and the Cougs barely threw the ball.

He didn't know about the roster CPW inherited or the injury problems as the season went on

You mean the game where Pete Carroll had his QB take a knee at the the end of the first half when they were in scoring position out of mercy? I was there.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

The problem is when it drives performance or decisions. I think Pete Rose said he always bet on the Red's to win. How did that impact his in-game decisions? What about the times he didn't bet the game?

With athletes, it always seems to fall on shaving points like with Headache Smith at ASU and others.

See, there you go. If Rose always bet to win, wouldn't that have motivated him to make good in-game decisions? His lifetime ban has always pissed me off.

 

[95coug]

If a kid bet on his team to win straight up, no points, it would theoretically be harmless.

But, probably better to just prevent them from betting on their team at all.

And, really, especially in the portal world, makes sense to not let them bet on their sport. There’s nothing to keep Cam Ward & de Laura from getting together to help each other’s bets.

 

[95coug]

See, there you go. If Rose always bet to win, wouldn't that have motivated him to make good in-game decisions? His lifetime ban has always pissed me off.

The bigger problem I have with his ban is that you know there were others who were betting, he’s just the one who got caught. Then, you look at the NFL and see that Alex Karras and Paul Hornung were suspended for betting on games, admitted to it, and both are in the hall of fame.

Staying in baseball, people who were admitted cheaters, gamblers, and/or genuinely awful humans are in the hall. Whitey Ford. Charles Comiskey. Ty Cobb. Leo Derocher. Hell, baseball’s first commissioner - Kennesaw Mountain Landis - prevented integration for years, and he’s in.

It needs to be decided - either the hall of fame is just about athletic prowess, or you don’t let assholes play the game.

 

[CougSinceBirth]

You mean the game where Pete Carroll had his QB take a knee at the the end of the first half when they were in scoring position out of mercy? I was there.

My dad looked at me at halftime and said "we need Mike Leach." Our nation leading scoring streak came to a halt.

 

[Coug90]

That might be a slippery slope when the kid loses a bunch of money betting on his own team and is under pressure to make it up the next week

Yup this. Betting on the horses is a “gateway drug”. Just asking for trouble if you open it up to gambling at all IMO.

 

[425cougfan]

Part of the issue also is that players may have connections at other schools, so even if they're not betting on their own teams, they may be betting on games they have peers involved in. I think basketball is most prone to this stuff since it's so easy to shave points without it looking obvious. Also possible in football but not as easy for various reasons.

 

[longtimecoug]

My dad said Coach Wulff had to be shaving points in that USC game in 2008 where USC scored almost 40 points in the first half and the Cougs barely threw the ball.

He didn't know about the roster CPW inherited or the injury problems as the season went on

His roster wasnt that bad, he was

 

[PeteTheChop]

His roster wasnt that bad, he was

Jim Sterk reportedly told Wulff it was a 3-5 year complete rebuild when he brought him in from Eastern

 

[CougSinceBirth]

Jim Sterk reportedly told Wulff it was a 3-5 year complete rebuild when he brought him in from Eastern

Mr. Bean Counter had no grasp of what was really going on.

Doba and staff didn't leave the cupboard as empty as Wulff left it for Leach.

 

[95coug]

Mr. Bean Counter had no grasp of what was really going on.

Doba and staff didn't leave the cupboard as empty as Wulff left it for Leach.

This is a debate that may be less likely to be resolved than the vaccine one. Do we really have to revisit it?

 

[Coug90]

This is a debate that may be less likely to be resolved than the vaccine one. Do we really have to revisit it?

Woulda been 69-7 against USC if we coulda thrown a decent bubble screen.

 

[CougSinceBirth]

This is a debate that may be less likely to be resolved than the vaccine one. Do we really have to revisit it?

Why do that when we can debate Brink v Swogger? 🤣