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You haven’t explained why Biden’s foreign policy is any good. Are you going to try?
What are you referencing that constitutes “threatening” and “terrorizing” government employees?
You know pain....a decent amount of New Yorkers claimed the same thing about Gotti. Russian collusion could not be proven. However, for me, if Obama's daughter met with Russian operatives to interfere with our election I would have pushed for his immediate impeachment. And when it came to light, Trump lied and lied. He could have easily said "my son is a novice at this and made an error and it wont happen again". "Russia are you listening". But yeah he was framed.
Manafort, Gates, Navarro, Bannon, all have served time. Four people pled guilty in Ga. But it is a witch hunt.
Libel for sexual assault. Tax fraud. Guilty om 34 counts. Georgia case and New York case had to go in front of a grand jury to indict. You believe all are dems? 12 jurors in New York found him guilty o all 34 counts.
Maybe he is just a magnet for people around him for doing all sorts of illegal stuff....
And Jan 6 was not a hoax.
Maxine Waters is running for President? I was not aware of that. Way to stay on topic!
That said, her exact words: “Well, we gotta stay on the street,” Waters said. “And we’ve got to get more active. We’ve got to get more confrontational. We’ve got to make sure that they know that we mean business.”
Oh boy and the Repugnants were all over that.
Oh then there is this guy Maybe one of those "very fine people":
Texas man who threatened to kill U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters sentenced to 33 months in prison
U.S. District Judge R. Gary Klausner found Brian Michael Gaherty targeted Waters, who is Black, because of her race and added a hate-crime enhancement to his sentence.
www.nbcnews.com
Why should I? I never said it was any good. You just said it was crappy. And made some good points. So what is your problem here?
But Oh well. I am sure that you read the 4 links I previously posted from the last 3 years (from 4 different sources) detailed the ups an downs of the Saudi Arabia relationship. So what if he pissed them off at one point? Anyway, I would rate that as a passing foreign policy grade.
Here's a pretty good, and IMHO fairly impartial (granted the writer is a Biden supporter) analysis. It picks at the shortfalls and lists the highlights.
Biden's Foreign Policy: A Scorecard
Biden's national security team may be the best in over a generation. Their wins far surpass their failures.
jameslbruno.substack.com
This article seems pretty balanced, calling out highlights and lowlights. All in all? Mediocre maybe. But a helluva lot better than Trump's scorecard. Which I posted and I'm sure you read thoroughly.
Finally - Trumps European foreign policy in one sentence. These are his actual spoken words: “‘No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them (Russia) to do whatever the hell they want,’ “You got to pay. You got to pay your bills.”
It’s fascinating how defensive of Trump the cultists are. I would hope a lawyer could make a more rational argument. But then again this one’s MO is not to present a reasoned argument but instead to deflect and demand that whomever he is disagreeing with do it instead. Ad nauseam..Maxine Waters is running for President? I was not aware of that. Way to stay on topic!
That said, her exact words: “Well, we gotta stay on the street,” Waters said. “And we’ve got to get more active. We’ve got to get more confrontational. We’ve got to make sure that they know that we mean business.”
Oh boy and the Repugnants were all over that.
Oh then there is this guy Maybe one of those "very fine people":
Texas man who threatened to kill U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters sentenced to 33 months in prison
U.S. District Judge R. Gary Klausner found Brian Michael Gaherty targeted Waters, who is Black, because of her race and added a hate-crime enhancement to his sentence.
I guarantee you there were lawyers, doctors, and academics in Jonestown too. You can be highly intelligent and still be weak minded and easily duped by a con man.
There will be chapters in psychology books someday after all this has passed that will cover how people got sucked into this cult.
Nice try. There’s video of it.Maxine Waters is running for President? I was not aware of that. Way to stay on topic!
That said, her exact words: “Well, we gotta stay on the street,” Waters said. “And we’ve got to get more active. We’ve got to get more confrontational. We’ve got to make sure that they know that we mean business.”
Oh boy and the Repugnants were all over that.
Oh then there is this guy Maybe one of those "very fine people":
Texas man who threatened to kill U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters sentenced to 33 months in prison
U.S. District Judge R. Gary Klausner found Brian Michael Gaherty targeted Waters, who is Black, because of her race and added a hate-crime enhancement to his sentence.
Maxine Waters encourages supporters to harass Trump administration officials
Rep. Maxine Waters called on her supporters to publicly confront and harass members of the Trump administration in response to the "zero tolerance" policy that led to the separation of families at the border.
amp.cnn.com
The cult that engaged in a four plus year coverup of Biden’s decline?
Funny. You’ve never presented an argument for anything. Keep convincing yourself otherwise though.
Oh yeah. Father in law ( highly intelligent retired physician) starred off as a closeted Trump voter due to inheritance tax. Over the years he got wackier and wackier in his defense of Trump - he got sucked in by rightwing propagandists and started ranting against all kinds of things including “the crooked MSM”.
People start believing what they hear over and over. Even with zero to limited cherry picked evidence. Father in law at least acknowledges now that Trump is as crooked as they get but will still vote for him for same reason as before.
So what if you piss Saudi Arabia off? Did you actually think before posting that or remember Biden groveling in Riyadh? Piss off the Saudis they cut production. Combine that with Biden’s climate agenda you get a big spike in oil prices and the implications of that. Sound familiar?Why should I? I never said it was any good. You just said it was crappy. And made some good points. So what is your problem here?
But Oh well. I am sure that you read the 4 links I previously posted from the last 3 years (from 4 different sources) detailed the ups an downs of the Saudi Arabia relationship. So what if he pissed them off at one point? Anyway, I would rate that as a passing foreign policy grade.
Here's a pretty good, and IMHO fairly impartial (granted the writer is a Biden supporter) analysis. It picks at the shortfalls and lists the highlights.
Biden's Foreign Policy: A Scorecard
Biden's national security team may be the best in over a generation. Their wins far surpass their failures.
This article seems pretty balanced, calling out highlights and lowlights. All in all? Mediocre maybe. But a helluva lot better than Trump's scorecard. Which I posted and I'm sure you read thoroughly.
Finally - Trumps European foreign policy in one sentence. These are his actual spoken words: “‘No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them (Russia) to do whatever the hell they want,’ “You got to pay. You got to pay your bills.”
And have you realized the media has been gargling Biden’s shriveled sack (borrowing 90’s term). Rey something more recent than an article from October that actually says it was written before October 7. The average age of a Ukrainian soldier is over 40. That means for very 20 year old there is a 60 year old in uniform. That’s bad. An entire generation of dead Ukrainians bad. There is no end in sight. Biden’s policy has been to give Ukraine enough aid that it can fight, but not win. If you can even find a coherent policy. Gaza is weirder. Criticize to sound fake tough guy and salvage some votes in Michigan. But the only real action was to delay a delivery of 2000 pound bombs.
Maybe Biden’s policy is to fund every war to make sure we can’t fight a real one if the time comes? His policy is incoherent, like him.
Trump is talking about cutting off aid to Ukraine. Republicans have been pushing back on aid to Ukraine consistently. But it's Biden's fault?
And to your Maxine Water's post (quote from your link): "Waters, however, did not call for physical harm to the officials or harassment against Trump's supporters."
And what again does Maxine Waters have to do with the Biden-Trump presidential race?
Waters statement was simply an example of times that the left has threatened folks that they don't agree with. Like Chuck Schumer's threat against the Supreme Court, after which a nutcase travels across the country to try to kill Justice Kavanaugh. Remember that people in glass houses should not throw stones. If Trump's speech on January 6th is to be interpreted as inciting the capital riot, then statements like those given by Waters, Schumer, squad members, etc must also seen as threats to incite violence.
Chuck Shumer is running for president too? And the Squad members are too? And sorry, I am not aware of whatever Shumer quote you refer to.
But really - Comparing Trump on January 6 to Waters' comments that were in the aftermath of the killing of an innocent black man? I mean really? Really Stretch? Do you really believe that? And again, WTF do Waters and Shumer have to do with the Presidential race?
Should we start a new thread where we list and compare all the threatening things ever said by the right vs the left? I have a better idea. Lets work on a list of all the threatening, inciting, insulting, degrading, etc. remarks and actions ever made by Donald Trump, starting with "I can grab a woman by the pussy", and make a list of similar words and actions by Joe Biden. Then we can stick to the subject matter at hand.
Or Abraham Lincoln, shot and killed by a left-winger. You Trumpers f-ing slay me.
Booth would not be left wing today, he’d be a far right republican. State’s rights over the Union, white supremacy, etc. And, in all likelihood, Lincoln would be a democrat today.
It’s strange, because the parties have to a large degree swapped platforms since those days. Democrats - especially southern Dems - were the ones with rabidly racist views, who believed that business interests outweighed all. Republicans were the abolition party, championing individualism and preservation of the Union.
How things have changed.
It is simply an irrational hatred of Trump
I'd hardly say hatred of trump qualifies as "irrational". In fact it's quite rational and warranted.
The extreme efforts his followers go to in order to excuse or minimize his failures is actually closer to irrational - from "whataboutism", minimizing, excuse-making, citing bogus "news" sources and endless false-equivalencies.
This thread is full of examples of such. Taihtsat
Have you justed skipped ahead to the end? Have you not seen the links both I and Loyal have posted?
Should Rachel Maddow flee for Canada while she still can? There is irrational hatred. Assuming it’s genuine. She owes her career to Trump.
Started during the Reagan era with those pesky Reagan democrats. Globalization, lots of job losses, including union jobs in the south and Midwest.
Nothing I’ve see would come close to “terrorizing”. And what level of “threatening” - did it include bodily harm, threat of death, loss of employment, taking away cell phone privileges?
Nice try. There’s video of it.
Maxine Waters encourages supporters to harass Trump administration officials
Rep. Maxine Waters called on her supporters to publicly confront and harass members of the Trump administration in response to the "zero tolerance" policy that led to the separation of families at the border.
I know that you are working hard to justify Trump being a giant piece of sh!t but WTF does Maxine Waters have to do with anything? I wouldn't vote for her as President and I think that she's a far left wacko. The existence of a few idiots on the left doesn't justify your support for a sh!t stain like Trump. You bringing her up kind of makes my point. Nobody rational should be voting a person like Waters....or Trump to be our President.
There are apparently around 75 million Republicans interested in politics in this country based on the 2020 election. Maybe you could throw your hat in with one of them rather than a guy like Trump?
To be fair, project 2025 isn’t threatening, it is promising those not loyal to Trump will lose thier jobs.
Weird.
Project 2025 - Wikipedia
On July 5, 2024 Former President Trump expressed his disagreement with Project 2025 in a statement: "I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they're saying and some of the things they're saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal."[52]Fpbear (talk) 16:15, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Depends on your personal definition of "terrorizing". But as to your questions: yes, yes, yes and I don't know.
Read this for answers to all your questions.
He knows nothing about it but disagrees with it. Well that settles it then. He would never lie.Weird.
Project 2025 - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
On July 5, 2024 Former President Trump expressed his disagreement with Project 2025 in a statement: "I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they're saying and some of the things they're saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal."[52]Fpbear (talk) 16:15, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Also, weird. Some of his closest advisors are the main players in project 2025.
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