NIL and the $5,000,000 qb

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Rumors that the big d!ck SEC boys were sniffing around north Carolina and that was the number being thrown around.

Not that we would ever compete with that, but no way do we land CW/any future recruit for $100k and a truck. Frankly, it's completely demoralizing realizing that a wealthy program can offer our top talent more money for a PWO status than we can for a scholarship player.

In other news, was graced with hearing Dan Lanning talk about how his relationships and adjustments (to the NIL/portal) were responsible for their boon of recruiting flips today... gmafb.

 

[Chucksizzle1]

I don’t know how much Brett Gabbert (Miami Ohio) was being offered, but he was a really good qb who was in the portal. There are quite a few of the smaller school grad transfer qbs who looked really good. I guess the key is having a Mike leach like talent for spotting overlooked talent , diamonds in the rough.

need to get a really good o line coach who can develop o lineman with a strength and Conditioning guy.

 

[ttowncoug]

I'm optimistic on o-line. Two of our best offensive lineman ever were recruiting by McGuire. I think it's going to take time.

 

[Cougini5591]

I'm optimistic on o-line. Two of our best offensive lineman ever were recruiting by McGuire. I think it's going to take time.

And here we go...

 

[Coug90]

For those who wonder how this is going for those with the budget. Far more programs will be like A&M. Coaches with the resources will think it’s an easy path to recruiting, they’ll pay a bunch of money to go 7-5 or 8-4 get fired, a new coach will come in all the players leave, rinse and repeat. I don’t like what CFB has turned into but if you have consistency with your HC and strategy of building brick by brick, you can still win despite all this nonsense.

 

[dgibbons]

For those who wonder how this is going for those with the budget. Far more programs will be like A&M. Coaches with the resources will think it’s an easy path to recruiting, they’ll pay a bunch of money to go 7-5 or 8-4 get fired, a new coach will come in all the players leave, rinse and repeat. I don’t like what CFB has turned into but if you have consistency with your HC and strategy of building brick by brick, you can still win despite all this nonsense.

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The seemingly 24/7/365 free agency doesn't seem like something anyone wants. Hopefully there is enough support for NCAA regulations that will keep the landscape competitive for schools like WSU. And that it happens soon enough.

 

[Observer11]

For those who wonder how this is going for those with the budget. Far more programs will be like A&M. Coaches with the resources will think it’s an easy path to recruiting, they’ll pay a bunch of money to go 7-5 or 8-4 get fired, a new coach will come in all the players leave, rinse and repeat. I don’t like what CFB has turned into but if you have consistency with your HC and strategy of building brick by brick, you can still win despite all this nonsense.

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Cry me a river, Jimbo. $31 million doesn't quite go as far as it used to.

Choices have consequences and aTm lit the fuse.

 

[CougSinceBirth]

The seemingly 24/7/365 free agency doesn't seem like something anyone wants. Hopefully there is enough support for NCAA regulations that will keep the landscape competitive for schools like WSU. And that it happens soon enough.

NCAA isn't going to touch the NIL. They'd likely get sued to oblivion.

Probably why the NCAA hired a political who has worked in the private sector on and off to help manage next moves.

Couldn't be any worse than the former UW dufus running the show now. Thank the Huskies for the fall of collegiate sports. 🤣

 

[Coug90]

NCAA isn't going to touch the NIL. They'd likely get sued to oblivion.

Probably why the NCAA hired a political who has worked in the private sector on and off to help manage next moves.

Couldn't be any worse than the former UW dufus running the show now. Thank the Huskies for the fall of collegiate sports. 🤣

Nailed it…Is there anything more husky looking or sounding than Emmert? Not surprising, dude always made my skin crawl.

 

[CougPatrol]

NCAA isn't going to touch the NIL. They'd likely get sued to oblivion.

Probably why the NCAA hired a political who has worked in the private sector on and off to help manage next moves.

Couldn't be any worse than the former UW dufus running the show now. Thank the Huskies for the fall of collegiate sports. 🤣

The NCAA can, and likely will redefine what is and isn’t NIL, I also wouldn’t be surprised to see some type of cross sport revenue sharing proposed where the money goes into a pot and get more evenly divided.

 

[Observer11]

The NCAA can, and likely will redefine what is and isn’t NIL, I also wouldn’t be surprised to see some type of cross sport revenue sharing proposed where the money goes into a pot and get more evenly divided.

Correct - and contributing outside earnings to a revenue pool will be a provision within the athletic scholarship agreement/contract as a condition of being allowed to participate on the university’s teams.

Truly “pay for play”

The NCAA just let the cart get before the horse. Without the school teams, the athlete has no value or vehicle to showcase their talent.

 

[PeteTheChop]

I also wouldn’t be surprised to see some type of cross sport revenue sharing proposed where the money goes into a pot and get more evenly divided.

By “cross sport” revenue sharing, does that mean money WSU earned via ticket sales and media rights for football would continue to be shifted elsewhere so that the school — just like others across the nation — could field teams in non-revenue sports?

Not a political expert like some here at CougZone, but is it fair to expect football and men’s basketball athletes to take less so a golfer or a tennis player can be compensated for their participation in a “hobby” that generates no or next to no revenue?

Here’s an opinion piece by a former NCAA champion women’s long distance runner on the subject:

Op-Ed: Take it from a former Division I athlete: College sports are like Jim Crow

 

[CougPatrol]

By “cross sport” revenue sharing, does that mean money WSU earned via ticket sales and media rights for football would continue to be shifted elsewhere so that the school — just like others across the nation — could field teams in non-revenue sports?

Not a political expert like some here at CougZone, but is it fair to expect football and men’s basketball athletes to take less so a golfer or a tennis player can be compensated for their participation in a “hobby” that generates no or next to no revenue?

Here’s an opinion piece by a former NCAA champion women’s long distance runner on the subject:

Op-Ed: Take it from a former Division I athlete: College sports are like Jim Crow

I don't personally think it's fair at the professional level; but for collegiate athletics I think this is where it will head.

NIL money tied to an individual player such as jersey sales, TV and radio ads, autograph signings, will belong to the athlete. The large "collective" groups that you see running wild now will likely be reined in and spread throughout the entire student-athlete body.

 

[CougEd]

I don't personally think it's fair at the professional level; but for collegiate athletics I think this is where it will head.

NIL money tied to an individual player such as jersey sales, TV and radio ads, autograph signings, will belong to the athlete. The large "collective" groups that you see running wild now will likely be reined in and spread throughout the entire student-athlete body.

What’s nil value does the senior in high school in Oregon have for Michigan State to give him money . I think nil shoukd be for some established player at this point .

 

[CougEd]

The NCAA can, and likely will redefine what is and isn’t NIL, I also wouldn’t be surprised to see some type of cross sport revenue sharing proposed where the money goes into a pot and get more evenly divided.

I would argue … that they will legislate it and bring it closer to the schools . All incoming freshman get a nil deal . Have a nil cap for freshman . Each kid gets 1500 per month for nine months .

Then work the nil from there

 

[wsudefense]

Ohio State recruit Lincoln Kienholz says he could have made more NIL money with Washington

Amid questions whether Ohio State is maximizing its NIL potential in regard to recruiting, an OSU signee says he could have made money in Washington.

www.yahoo.com

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

Ohio State recruit Lincoln Kienholz says he could have made more NIL money with Washington

Amid questions whether Ohio State is maximizing its NIL potential in regard to recruiting, an OSU signee says he could have made money in Washington.

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wow, that's a serious endictment of the UW staff. But he's a child, wtf does he know- the OSU staff just did a better job of selling their program.

 

[gpcoug]

wow, that's a serious endictment of the UW staff. But he's a child, wtf does he know- the OSU staff just did a better job of selling their program.

Right. I mean Penix wasn't chopped liver this year. Not sure why he would think that but whatever I guess. Im fine with it haha

 

[Coug90]

What’s nil value does the senior in high school in Oregon have for Michigan State to give him money . I think nil shoukd be for some established player at this point .

The same value as Jamarcus Russell or Akili Smith had as QBs making 50+ mill guaranteed before ever taking a snap in the NFL. This is going to be a disaster for the coaches and teams that go all in on it. You have to play the game to some extent but relying on NIL to fill out your classes will bite these f’ers in the ass as it should.

 

[CougPatrol]

I would argue … that they will legislate it and bring it closer to the schools . All incoming freshman get a nil deal . Have a nil cap for freshman . Each kid gets 1500 per month for nine months .

Then work the nil from there

I agree, and they'll have to start with clearly defining and separating NIL from "collective" revenue.

If a highly acclaimed high school football or basketball recruit is offered revenue for his or her specific name or likeness, there's nothing anyone can do to prevent them from accepting it, and that's going to be hard to police. For example, if Nike wants to offer Bo Nix $10M, I don't think there's anything the NCAA or the courts can do to stop that.

What shouldn't be hard is to work towards is a sharing of collective revenues to better provide for all active athletes. To me, this is the card that the NCAA has to play. It will still heavily favor the blueblood programs, as a sharing of Alabama or Ohio State's collective is going to be significantly more appealing than that of WSUs, but at least there will be some transparency. You can even put some competitive caps in place to keep things more balanced. "50% of collective revenues goto football and mens basketball advanced housing, meals, travel, and entertainment and the remaining 50% goes into the other programs."

 

[How_did_this_happen?]

I agree, and they'll have to start with clearly defining and separating NIL from "collective" revenue.

If a highly acclaimed high school football or basketball recruit is offered revenue for his or her specific name or likeness, there's nothing anyone can do to prevent them from accepting it, and that's going to be hard to police. For example, if Nike wants to offer Bo Nix $10M, I don't think there's anything the NCAA or the courts can do to stop that.

What shouldn't be hard is to work towards is a sharing of collective revenues to better provide for all active athletes. To me, this is the card that the NCAA has to play. It will still heavily favor the blueblood programs, as a sharing of Alabama or Ohio State's collective is going to be significantly more appealing than that of WSUs, but at least there will be some transparency. You can even put some competitive caps in place to keep things more balanced. "50% of collective revenues goto football and mens basketball advanced housing, meals, travel, and entertainment and the remaining 50% goes into the other programs."

Why should they share? Do coaches with multi million dollar pay packages have to share their salaries with other programs?

 

[gpcoug]

Why should they share? Do coaches with multi million dollar pay packages have to share their salaries with other programs?

Agreed I don't like that really pro but they need to at least work in contracts or do something about transfers. It's like pro football with zero rules or regulations right now.

 

[mikalalas]

On TV one of the big name, at least semi credible, at least semi co called experts, announcers, etc, at one of the Bowl games, said that 2 year football Scholarship Contracts, instead of 1 year renewable football Scholarship Contracts, was at least part of the answer, at minimum, and that 4 year schollies, comprised of 2, 2 year renewable after 2 years, schollies, were or are going to hit mainstream College Football soon.

He said it was a way Colleges get at least a 2 year commitment from both Colleges, coaches, players, recruits, etc.

And that Players would probably go for it as well.