NY Times

[kougkurt]

A Coach’s Vaccine Refusal Generates Discord at Washington State (Published 2021)

Nick Rolovich’s job could be in jeopardy if he does not get vaccinated or receive an exemption, as required of state employees and students. “It’s the No. 1 question,” said Kirk Schulz, the university’s president.

www.nytimes.com

 

[How_did_this_happen?]

A Coach’s Vaccine Refusal Generates Discord at Washington State (Published 2021)

Nick Rolovich’s job could be in jeopardy if he does not get vaccinated or receive an exemption, as required of state employees and students. “It’s the No. 1 question,” said Kirk Schulz, the university’s president.

www.nytimes.com

New York Slimes is a corrupt lying rag.

 

[froropmkr72]

New York Slimes is a corrupt lying rag

Were you actually able to read the article?

 

[froropmkr72]

Were you actually able to read the article?

No Sir, would have to have a subscription?

 

[kougkurt]

I was able to read it with no sub.

 

[froropmkr72]

I was able to read it with no sub.

It wouldn't let me read sh!t.

 

[95coug]

A Coach’s Vaccine Refusal Generates Discord at Washington State (Published 2021)

Nick Rolovich’s job could be in jeopardy if he does not get vaccinated or receive an exemption, as required of state employees and students. “It’s the No. 1 question,” said Kirk Schulz, the university’s president.

www.nytimes.com

Nice to see they reached out to Kassidy Woods for his opinion. I’m sure they expected that to be fair and reasoned.

IF his religious exemption is approved, we shouldn’t hear any confirmation of it. This article makes it sound like it’s unlikely an accommodation can be made, but I don’t think that’s true. He’s been doing the job unvaxxed, he can continue. Question for Chun is whether he can do all phases of his job adequately. I think Shultz’s opinion is toward the negative, based on the quotes included (although who knows what context the reporter tweaked or left out).

If his religious exemption is not approved, He can appeal or he can get vaxxed, but either of those processes will take time, and won’t happen before the 18th. So…he’ll be on unpaid leave as of the 19th and will not be allowed to work. No practice, no recruiting, and he will not be able to coach against BYU (in theory, his appeal could be fast-tracked to avoid that, but doing so would undermine the anonymity). He could also get vaxxed any time before Saturday (J&J) and be back on the sideline the following week (would still miss BYU).

My expectation is that his exemption will be approved (unless he was a complete idiot and mentioned magnets, 5G tracking chips, or just wrote “FU” on all the questions). Question is whether the governor will step in and demand additional review if that exemption is approved. I would not be surprised.

Frankly, I’m beyond caring whether he gets the shot or not. At this point I don’t think he’s good enough a coach to fight over…but he’s also not good enough to pay $3M.

 

[COUGinNCW]

A Coach’s Vaccine Refusal Generates Discord at Washington State (Published 2021)

Nick Rolovich’s job could be in jeopardy if he does not get vaccinated or receive an exemption, as required of state employees and students. “It’s the No. 1 question,” said Kirk Schulz, the university’s president.

www.nytimes.com

The circus is just beginning. The next 8-9 days will see a lot of major news outlets, college game day etc covering this. It’s really a fascinating story. Too bad it’s not happening somewhere other then Pullman.

 

[longtimecoug]

Nice to see they reached out to Kassidy Woods for his opinion. I’m sure they expected that to be fair and reasoned.

IF his religious exemption is approved, we shouldn’t hear any confirmation of it. This article makes it sound like it’s unlikely an accommodation can be made, but I don’t think that’s true. He’s been doing the job unvaxxed, he can continue. Question for Chun is whether he can do all phases of his job adequately. I think Shultz’s opinion is toward the negative, based on the quotes included (although who knows what context the reporter tweaked or left out).

If his religious exemption is not approved, He can appeal or he can get vaxxed, but either of those processes will take time, and won’t happen before the 18th. So…he’ll be on unpaid leave as of the 19th and will not be allowed to work. No practice, no recruiting, and he will not be able to coach against BYU (in theory, his appeal could be fast-tracked to avoid that, but doing so would undermine the anonymity). He could also get vaxxed any time before Saturday (J&J) and be back on the sideline the following week (would still miss BYU).

My expectation is that his exemption will be approved (unless he was a complete idiot and mentioned magnets, 5G tracking chips, or just wrote “FU” on all the questions). Question is whether the governor will step in and demand additional review if that exemption is approved. I would not be surprised.

Frankly, I’m beyond caring whether he gets the shot or not. At this point I don’t think he’s good enough a coach to fight over…but he’s also not good enough to pay $3M.

even if approved he may not be coaching

 

[CougPatrol]

Either way, this is going to bury our program.

 

[chugspig]

Either way, this is going to bury our program.

Ummmm….we just picked up a kid yesterday over Ark. St. Things are looking fine.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Ummmm….we just picked up a kid yesterday over Ark. St. Things are looking fine.

Uh no.

This is going to crush recruiting. Unless the next coach has a name brand that can gain ground and surpass other schools. Then maybe. Otherwise, this is a disaster.

At this point, if Im Chun Im taking a long look at visits that have happened, visits lined up, status of verbals, etc. There is likely cause right now to fire him for how bad recruiting is going.

 

[CougPatrol]

When we can Rolo, I see us losing both JDL and Ward at QB, Stribling, Hobert, Hicks, Fa'Amoe, Mauigoa, Jackson, Brown, and Nunnally, to the portal. Recruiting will absolutely implode, and to make matters worse, the salary offer for the next head coach will be significantly less than we're paying Rolo.

Dark days are upon us.

 

[COUGinNCW]

If he’s intersted, this may be the time to go after Graham Harrel. He’ll be looking for a job and there are still a lot of kids on the roster recruited for the air raid including JDL and Hobert.

But I’m with you, there are likely some dark days/years coming for WSU football.

 

[NMBRCRNCHR]

When we can Rolo, I see us losing both JDL and Ward at QB, Stribling, Hobert, Hicks, Fa'Amoe, Mauigoa, Jackson, Brown, and Nunnally, to the portal. Recruiting will absolutely implode, and to make matters worse, the salary offer for the next head coach will be significantly less than we're paying Rolo.

Dark days are upon us.

We just won our second game in a row, for the first time in years, against a team we shouldn't have beat and all you can think about is the doom and gloom ahead. This mind set is a choice, please spend some time to work on yourself and enjoy life.

 

[BiggsCoug]

We just won our second game in a row, for the first time in years, against a team we shouldn't have beat and all you can think about is the doom and gloom ahead. This mind set is a choice, please spend some time to work on yourself and enjoy life.

Right. Just bury your head in the sand. Nothing to see here. No reason to worry about what could happen with tens of millions at risk. Keep it moving. Don’t look so hard, won’t see as much.

 

[NMBRCRNCHR]

Right. Just bury your head in the sand. Nothing to see here. No reason to worry about what could happen with tens of millions at risk. Keep it moving. Don’t look so hard, won’t see as much.

Millions at risk due to Rolo's vax status, hyperbole much?! You have got to be kidding me.

 

[dgibbons]

even if approved he may not be coaching

Why? He's been wearing a mask, distanced for the media appearances, etc.

 

[dgibbons]

Right. Just bury your head in the sand. Nothing to see here. No reason to worry about what could happen with tens of millions at risk. Keep it moving. Don’t look so hard, won’t see as much.

You've surpassed sponge for dumbest post of all time.

 

[PINGDUDE4]

We just won our second game in a row, for the first time in years, against a team we shouldn't have beat and all you can think about is the doom and gloom ahead. This mind set is a choice, please spend some time to work on yourself and enjoy life.

First time in years ?

First time since 2019.

Face it this will be the best team talent and experience wise ROLO will ever coach at WSU even if he stays for 10 years. And with that he will be lucky to go 6-6. Why some are so invested him from a pure football point of view is a mystery. Any coach currently in the Mountain West would have this team at least at this level if not higher.

 

[dgibbons]

Ummmm….we just picked up a kid yesterday over Ark. St. Things are looking fine.

What do think is going to happen if Rolovich and probably the rest of the staff get canned? What is the pool of potential hires going to look like? WSU barely supports the program. Now you'll get fired in less than two years too. Hooray.

 

[PINGDUDE4]

When we can Rolo, I see us losing both JDL and Ward at QB, Stribling, Hobert, Hicks, Fa'Amoe, Mauigoa, Jackson, Brown, and Nunnally, to the portal. Recruiting will absolutely implode, and to make matters worse, the salary offer for the next head coach will be significantly less than we're paying Rolo.

Dark days are upon us.

Meh.

The transfer value of any of those players is very low. The best players run out of eligibility this year.

Someone may take a flyer on Brennan Jackson, but that is about it. JDL probably had more value before people actually got to see him play.

 

[NMBRCRNCHR]

First time in years ?

First time since 2019.

Face it this will be the best team talent and experience wise ROLO will ever coach at WSU even if he stays for 10 years. And with that he will be lucky to go 6-6. Why some are so invested him from a pure football point of view is a mystery. Any coach currently in the Mountain West would have this team at least at this level if not higher.

Which is "years", correct? thanks

 

[dgibbons]

First time in years ?

First time since 2019.

Face it this will be the best team talent and experience wise ROLO will ever coach at WSU even if he stays for 10 years. And with that he will be lucky to go 6-6. Why some are so invested him from a pure football point of view is a mystery. Any coach currently in the Mountain West would have this team at least at this level if not higher.

Ten years is hyperbole. The remainder of Leach's recruits will pretty much gone at the end of the season, and next year will be interesting. That's what happens in coaching transition. It will be up to Rolovich and staff then. I certainly didn't think Price would take WSU to the Rose Bowl, but he did that within ten years after the departure of Erickson's recruits.

 

[PINGDUDE4]

What do think is going to happen if Rolovich and probably the rest of the staff get canned? What is the pool of potential hires going to look like? WSU barely supports the program. Now you'll get fired in less than two years too. Hooray.

You could replace the value of this staff with half the cost.

Heck grab the Utah State or Wyoming staff. Or Jim McErlean . Matt Wells will probably be fired from Tech this year and will probably come cheap with his severance.

A ton of alternatives.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Millions at risk due to Rolo's vax status, hyperbole much?! You have got to be kidding me.

How can you see with your head in the sand?

 

[dgibbons]

You could replace the value of this staff with half the cost.

Heck grab the Utah State or Wyoming staff. Or Jim McErlean . Matt Wells will probably be fired from Tech this year and will probably come cheap with his severance.

A ton of alternatives.

Cheap resulted in 9-40.

 

[dgibbons]

How can you see with your head in the sand?

Sponge's "Leach will never get it done here" post is fading into distance with this kind of stuff.

 

[CougPatrol]

Meh.

The transfer value of any of those players is very low. The best players run out of eligibility this year.

Someone may take a flyer on Brennan Jackson, but that is about it. JDL probably had more value before people actually got to see him play.

Really? I just watched Oregon State, UW, Cal, and Utah. JDL would start for all of them, easily. Pretty sure Colorado and Arizona would do cartwheels for him too. That’s half of the conference.

 

[Glad Cougar]

I know that several of my OSU friends have a lot higher opinion of JDL than some Cougar fans...and would rightly say he was the best QB on the field this past weekend, by far.

Glad Cougar

 

[PINGDUDE4]

Ten years is hyperbole. The remainder of Leach's recruits will pretty much gone at the end of the season, and next year will be interesting. That's what happens in coaching transition. It will be up to Rolovich and staff then. I certainly didn't think Price would take WSU to the Rose Bowl, but he did that within ten years after the departure of Erickson's recruits.

What indication do you have that Rolo is someone that can replenish this roster ? It is not only the super seniors that are hold overs from Leach most of the underclassman talent are Leach recruits as well. Rolo has demonstrated no rational game plan or ability to recruit. Even before all of this vax nonsense it was crazy town recruiting sending out offers all over the place to players where there was zero hope of them even visiting.

Now another year into it he is proving equally inept at the transfer portal.

It is too bad that the vax crap is a big diversion from his other fundamental issues. This team in the incredibly weak Pac12 should not be in a position where they are struggling to make a bowl game.

 

[dgibbons]

What indication do you have that Rolo is someone that can replenish this roster ? It is not only the super seniors that are hold overs from Leach most of the underclassman talent are Leach recruits as well. Rolo has demonstrated no rational game plan or ability to recruit. Even before all of this vax nonsense it was crazy town recruiting sending out offers all over the place to players where there was zero hope of them even visiting.

Now another year into it he is proving equally inept at the transfer portal.

It is too bad that the vax crap is a big diversion from his other fundamental issues. This team in the incredibly weak Pac12 should not be in a position where they are struggling to make a bowl game.

What indications do you have that he can't? Norm Chow ran Hawaii's program into the ground. Four years later Rolovich had a 10 win season.

It appears that the offensive play calling has been placed in the hands of Stutzman. There was an obvious difference against Oregon State.

Obviously, it would have been nice for the everything to been addressed in fall camp. It'd be nice if I won the lottery too.

 

[Fab5Coug]

Nice to see they reached out to Kassidy Woods for his opinion. I’m sure they expected that to be fair and reasoned.

IF his religious exemption is approved, we shouldn’t hear any confirmation of it. This article makes it sound like it’s unlikely an accommodation can be made, but I don’t think that’s true. He’s been doing the job unvaxxed, he can continue. Question for Chun is whether he can do all phases of his job adequately. I think Shultz’s opinion is toward the negative, based on the quotes included (although who knows what context the reporter tweaked or left out).

If his religious exemption is not approved, He can appeal or he can get vaxxed, but either of those processes will take time, and won’t happen before the 18th. So…he’ll be on unpaid leave as of the 19th and will not be allowed to work. No practice, no recruiting, and he will not be able to coach against BYU (in theory, his appeal could be fast-tracked to avoid that, but doing so would undermine the anonymity). He could also get vaxxed any time before Saturday (J&J) and be back on the sideline the following week (would still miss BYU).

My expectation is that his exemption will be approved (unless he was a complete idiot and mentioned magnets, 5G tracking chips, or just wrote “FU” on all the questions). Question is whether the governor will step in and demand additional review if that exemption is approved. I would not be surprised.

Frankly, I’m beyond caring whether he gets the shot or not. At this point I don’t think he’s good enough a coach to fight over…but he’s also not good enough to pay $3M.

I don't know what kind of validation is involved in approving a religious exemption. Looking past our opinions on the mandate in general, it sure wouldn't have much in the way of teeth if someone could just pretend to be a Christian Scientist for a couple weeks to get out of it.

 

[Fab5Coug]

Uh no.

This is going to crush recruiting. Unless the next coach has a name brand that can gain ground and surpass other schools. Then maybe. Otherwise, this is a disaster.

At this point, if Im Chun Im taking a long look at visits that have happened, visits lined up, status of verbals, etc. There is likely cause right now to fire him for how bad recruiting is going.

You can't fire him for cause because he's a $hitty recruiter.

 

[Fab5Coug]

Which is "years", correct? thanks

Really weird way to frame it.

You could have said, "for the first time this decade" too.

 

[BiggsCoug]

You can't fire him for cause because he's a $hitty recruiter.

It isn’t just shitty. It’s not even able to host kids on campus. If the kids won’t even visit, he is failing at the job.

What do you do when the HC has created a scenario where 5 home games have passed and they have shit for on campus visits? How does it effect recruiting when kids won’t visit because of the HCs job status? If you aren’t doing the job the school has cause.

 

[Fab5Coug]

What indications do you have that he can't? Norm Chow ran Hawaii's program into the ground. Four years later Rolovich had a 10 win season.

It appears that the offensive play calling has been placed in the hands of Stutzman. There was an obvious difference against Oregon State.

Obviously, it would have been nice for the everything to been addressed in fall camp. It'd be nice if I won the lottery too.

There's always a "wait and see" aspect to recruiting, of course,, but to say I'm not concerned over this class, and the way recruiting is trending currently would be disingenuous.

 

[Fab5Coug]

It isn’t just shitty. It’s not even able to host kids on campus. If the kids won’t even visit, he is failing at the job.

What do you do when the HC has created a scenario where 5 home games have passed and they have shit for on campus visits? How does it effect recruiting when kids won’t visit because of the HCs job status? If you aren’t doing the job the school has cause.

There's a difference between kids not visiting and kids not able to visit.

 

[CougEd]

Cheap resulted in 9-40.

Cheap...Price resulted in two Rose Bowls.

 

[CougEd]

There's always a "wait and see" aspect to recruiting, of course,, but to say I'm not concerned over this class, and the way recruiting is trending currently would be disingenuous.

Yep....I think we were successful when we played OSU last year, so not sure it is the playcalling. Not enough data.