I wouldn't have mattered.
Perfect except you forgot 'for the greater good' and 'the science'.
Sorry I am having a hard time reading sarcasm today. I’m assuming, possibly wrongly, but I think the point is valid.. I believe most people are certainly in the, “get vaccinated” category but would have certainly been less negative if he gave his reasons. Regardless to what is presented on this board most people are reasonable. I do not believe it would have saved his job or made the press go away completely, but it certainly would have prevented a lot of the damage we are seeing toward the university. He screwed this up beyond what any reasonably thinking adult in his position should have done. I for one can’t wait for him to disappear. Not because of his vaccination status but because of the stupidity he has shown. That doesn’t even include his coaching and leadership abilities…
Not sure the vaxed oeople think straight to hell…
Less negative? What's that worth? Go back an read the threads; there are those on here that would strap a person down and vax them against their will if they could, and I'm sure their views are reflected across our society.
I think you are being a bit dramatic . People have the choice not to get vaxed. Not one I understand but just like with other vaccine mandates there is give and take, and choices have consequences .
Reading comprehension vaccine (air quotes around vaccine) or therapeutic?
Well...if you are a strict numbers person, when a hospital in South Carolina for example has 540 cases of covid and 509 are not vaxed, means the "therapeutic" seems to be doing teh job. When 86 people are on ventilators in that same hospital, 84 are not vaxed, that "therapeutic" seems to be doing the job.
You mean nobody official? Are you dense? You think I would claim Biden or Pelosi are stating this? I suppose you also haven't heard the "let them die if they're not vaxxed" rhetoric either. There is an entire subreddit dedicated to mocking non-vaxxed/ anti-vaxxers who have died, that is what our society has become.
Well I do think there is a triage that should take place. I do appreciate one group that are anti vax and state they won't go to the hospital as they think they wont get ivermectin and the docs are not giving them the care that they expect. So they are choosing not to go. I would say good for them...follow that belief and stand behind it.
Not all that different than saying it is just teh flu, it is made up, Herman Cain would have died anyway. Just a different way of "mocking".
Well, they are being threatened with the loss of their career, income, etc. if they don't get vaccinated. That's a pretty dramatic situation to have to face.
Its the perpetual lie. When is enough enough? I'm not going to get all meme-y and post moving goalposts crap, but yeah, first stay home, then masks, then nothing's open, then masks, then vax, then mask again, now vax again... and again?
ugh, another of my typo's forever frozen in a quote. I'm glad I don't get mocked too much when my fingers get ahead of my brain.
At this point what does it matter if it came out of a lab or not? If it came out and on purpose China released it on the world and its own people, is that correct?
Truly not sure why you use Sweden or Israel as a model. Sweden's GDP fell at 8.6% during while remaining open. Denmark, Finland and Norway's GDP fell less despite having much stricter restrictions.
Understood, so your position is just let it happen. Let the chips fall where they may. Fair enough.
These types of choices are made all the time. For example, military and corporate people get transferred all the time. It isn't "their" choice.
The lack of PE in middle and high school kills me. And all the rationalizing surrounding its exemption is just garbage, from body shaming to not enough time to complete their "vigorous" course-load. We can make learning that penises and vaginas are simply fashion accessories an educational priority and spend two days out of a five day sex ed course discussing the scourge that is HIV (thanks King Co), but heaven forbid we have a non-graded PE class. Hell, let them walk around the track for an hour while staring at their phones; itd be more activity than many of them are getting otherwise.
I don't mind thinning the herd. Here is the problem with your comments of obesity etc. If I go to a restaurant, a health club etc I don't get sick because someone is eating McDonalds food. If life just gets on, great. But it doesn't. The biggest motivation in this country is fear. I have people who don't go out any more , don't go to health clubs. They have elected to stay home and ride a peloton. They stay home and have friends over. It is probably 1/3 of the population, or maybe 1/4...but it is the 1/4 that has disposal income and now is electing to spend it differently. That affects the local economy.
CP, I mostly agree with you and would even add to your harshness on the thinning the herd comments. As a rule, and there are certainly exceptions, the unvaccinated are not the brightest members of society. I’m in a blue collar industry and our company has one of the highest vaccinated rates I’m aware of locally and if we are more then 35% vaccinated I’d be surprised. Most of our peers are in the 10-20% range with a fair amount of them less then 10%. Getting some drywall installed or getting appliances delivered is going to be a bitch if they all get wiped out but you get my point.
But ED, we're vaccinated. We can wear masks as an extra buffer if we want to. If the vaccine truly works, and I believe that it does, we vaccinated people have nothing to worry about. You can go to restaurants without any worry about becoming gravely ill. It doesn't matter what other people do. If that's not the case, then the vaccine isn't working.
