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Yes, it's possible, and it happens all the time, (coming off marquee wins).

Don't fool yourself. It can happen Friday night.

3-0 SJSU has played....

Sacramento State W 41-24
Air Force W 17-7
Kennesaw State W 31-10

On computer, we should be fine. But there are classic Trap games, and this is one of them.
 
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Yes, it's possible, and it happens all the time, (coming off marquee wins).

Don't fool yourself. It can happen Friday night.

3-0 SJSU has played....

Sacramento State W 41-24
Air Force W 17-7
Kennesaw State W 31-10

On computer, we should be fine. But there are classic Trap games, and this is one of them.
The win against Air Force is the surprise. Sac state is FCS, Kennesaw was. Air Force - as we found out a few years ago - is tough to prep for. They’re disciplined and they play an offense that nobody else does. SJSU going in and holding them to 7 was a surprise.

Although….looking at AF’s schedule & results, maybe they’re just not very good.
 
Altho Dickert has lost 1 trap game, and it's possible that he could lose a trap game, Dickert usually, almost always wins, has the team be focused, play good in trap games.

And for Dickert to keep the team focused, winning last 3 games, despite all the distractions, probably means that Dickert, team will be focused, show up, win a trap game.

And that's because it's not a trap game to Dickert, team. To Dickert, Team, it's just another team they need to go 1-0 against, that they take seriously, etc.
 
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The win against Air Force is the surprise. Sac state is FCS, Kennesaw was. Air Force - as we found out a few years ago - is tough to prep for. They’re disciplined and they play an offense that nobody else does. SJSU going in and holding them to 7 was a surprise.

Although….looking at AF’s schedule & results, maybe they’re just not very good.

This is not the same Air Force team that knocked off WSU in 2019. San Jose State is clearly a trap game for WSU though. Any undefeated team is usually playing with some confidence and should be taken seriously.

One important thing to remember is that every team that we have faced this year was undefeated until they played us. That's obviously kind of a BS statistic, but SJSU's wins are over objectively bad teams. Massey has them beating FCS Sac State, #93 Air Force and #132 Kennesaw State. As long as we take them seriously, we should win by 17+ points.

By the way, when I suggested before the season started that this season was our best shot at running the table , we were all quick to say, "but that will never happen". We still have a few games that we need to be nervous about, but ESPN's FPI is now saying we have an 8.8% chance to finish undefeated and a 24% chance of making the college football playoff. That's up from less than a 1% chance to go undefeated to start the season. Still unlikely that we finish undefeated....but it's a real possibility if we stay focused. I know it's against a weaker schedule....but I'm ok with that.
 
This is not the same Air Force team that knocked off WSU in 2019. San Jose State is clearly a trap game for WSU though. Any undefeated team is usually playing with some confidence and should be taken seriously.

One important thing to remember is that every team that we have faced this year was undefeated until they played us. That's obviously kind of a BS statistic, but SJSU's wins are over objectively bad teams. Massey has them beating FCS Sac State, #93 Air Force and #132 Kennesaw State. As long as we take them seriously, we should win by 17+ points.

By the way, when I suggested before the season started that this season was our best shot at running the table , we were all quick to say, "but that will never happen". We still have a few games that we need to be nervous about, but ESPN's FPI is now saying we have an 8.8% chance to finish undefeated and a 24% chance of making the college football playoff. That's up from less than a 1% chance to go undefeated to start the season. Still unlikely that we finish undefeated....but it's a real possibility if we stay focused. I know it's against a weaker schedule....but I'm ok with that.
We will take SJSU out to the woodshed. Speaking of surprises, what's up with Cal? Beat Auburn, cleaned the floor with SDSU, now 3-0? Huh.
 
Trap Game Friday night IS FOR REAL.

It's possible.

Remember, very few teams run the table, (even thought we're playing G5).

The Spartans will be no pushovers. They are 3-0 and received one top 25 vote in the coaches poll this week. Also, adding to the plot line is that their starting QB, Emmett Brown, was WSU's 3rd string QB last year and is off to a very good start to this season.

SJSU's offensive coordinator is Craig Stutzmann who was one of the former WSU assistant coaches from the Rolovich era who was also fired for refusing to take the COVID vax.

There's no doubt he'd love to return to the Palouse and douse some water on the Cougs' early season feel-good story.

Lastly, of course, is the fact that SJSU was not one of the MWC teams initially chosen to be a part of the newly reconfigured Pac-12. Those players and coaches will most certainly make note of that. If I'm the Cougs, I'm not expecting any of these guys to help me up after they tackle me.

Forget thinking about Boise and Fresno. SJSU can be a huge obstacle, and even a letdown.
 
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We need to respect San Jose State but that 3-0 record is more than likely a mirage. Their wins are teams that are a combined 2-7. One was FCS and Kennesaw State is still essentially an FCS school. Even though they are 3-0, they are a pass heavy team with no running game. We showed against Texas Tech that we can control the tempo when facing that type of team....and Texas Tech is a much better team than SJSU. And when I say bad running game...SJSU's running game is so bad that our running game under Leach looked like a juggernaut. They are averaging 1.9 ypc right now. In contrast, Texas Tech is averaging 5.6 ypc and UW is averaging 5.5 ypc.

We can't afford for our players to overlook SJSU and we need them to go into that game with a chip on their shoulder but this is a game we run away with as long as we play our game. Nobody has done a prediction thread yet, but I'm going to put us down for a 49-21 point win.

EDIT: our opponents are a combined 4-1 in games against schools not named WSU. SJSU's opponents are 2-4 outside of their games against the Spartans.
 
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We need to respect San Jose State but that 3-0 record is more than likely a mirage. Their wins are teams that are a combined 2-7. One was FCS and Kennesaw State is still essentially an FCS school. Even though they are 3-0, they are a pass heavy team with no running game. We showed against Texas Tech that we can control the tempo when facing that type of team....and Texas Tech is a much better team than SJSU. And when I say bad running game...SJSU's running game is so bad that our running game under Leach looked like a juggernaut. They are averaging 1.9 ypc right now. In contrast, Texas Tech is averaging 5.6 ypc and UW is averaging 5.5 ypc.

We can't afford for our players to overlook SJSU and we need them to go into that game with a chip on their shoulder but this is a game we run away with as long as we play our game. Nobody has done a prediction thread yet, but I'm going to put us down for a 49-21 point win.
Fair enough. I agree. We should boat race these guys, and without a run game, and they haven't played anyone....it's clear we should win big time. But our guys better be ready to play.
 
We need to respect San Jose State but that 3-0 record is more than likely a mirage. Their wins are teams that are a combined 2-7. One was FCS and Kennesaw State is still essentially an FCS school. Even though they are 3-0, they are a pass heavy team with no running game. We showed against Texas Tech that we can control the tempo when facing that type of team....and Texas Tech is a much better team than SJSU. And when I say bad running game...SJSU's running game is so bad that our running game under Leach looked like a juggernaut. They are averaging 1.9 ypc right now. In contrast, Texas Tech is averaging 5.6 ypc and UW is averaging 5.5 ypc.

We can't afford for our players to overlook SJSU and we need them to go into that game with a chip on their shoulder but this is a game we run away with as long as we play our game. Nobody has done a prediction thread yet, but I'm going to put us down for a 49-21 point win.

EDIT: our opponents are a combined 4-1 in games against schools not named WSU. SJSU's opponents are 2-4 outside of their games against the Spartans.

Rush 4, occasionally blitz a linebacker, occasionally use a linebacker to spy QB, RB, that can also drop into coverage, depending on whether SJSU starts to semi successfully run QB, RB, and drop 6,7 back into a match up mid zone, mixed up with man to man coverage, run a mix of cover 4, have 2 safeties, nickel back bracket match up zone cover, give CB's help midrange to semi deep, occasionally zone blitz, occasionally blitz a LB an a nickel back and Safety on the occasional 3rd and long, disguise looks, angles, blitz's, etc, bend, but don't break, keep everything in front, etc, stay disciplined, communicate, etc. If WSU's defense does that SJSU, will get a couple, few, some passing yards, a couple, few, some FG's, but overall, will have their offense either SHUT DOWN, or occasionally shut down or shut down enough.

WSU 4 TD's, 4 FG's for 40

SJSU 2 TD's, 3 FG's, for 23
 
Rush 4, occasionally blitz a linebacker, occasionally use a linebacker to spy QB, RB, that can also drop into coverage, depending on whether SJSU starts to semi successfully run QB, RB, and drop 6,7 back into a match up mid zone, mixed up with man to man coverage, run a mix of cover 4, have 2 safeties, nickel back bracket match up zone cover, give CB's help midrange to semi deep, occasionally zone blitz, occasionally blitz a LB an a nickel back and Safety on the occasional 3rd and long, disguise looks, angles, blitz's, etc, bend, but don't break, keep everything in front, etc, stay disciplined, communicate, etc. If WSU's defense does that SJSU, will get a couple, few, some passing yards, a couple, few, some FG's, but overall, will have their offense either SHUT DOWN, or occasionally shut down or shut down enough.

WSU 4 TD's, 4 FG's for 40

SJSU 2 TD's, 3 FG's, for 23

If we need four field goals from Janikowski....I'm going to start feeling nervous. LOL.
 
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We need to respect San Jose State but that 3-0 record is more than likely a mirage. Their wins are teams that are a combined 2-7. One was FCS and Kennesaw State is still essentially an FCS school. Even though they are 3-0, they are a pass heavy team with no running game. We showed against Texas Tech that we can control the tempo when facing that type of team....and Texas Tech is a much better team than SJSU. And when I say bad running game...SJSU's running game is so bad that our running game under Leach looked like a juggernaut. They are averaging 1.9 ypc right now. In contrast, Texas Tech is averaging 5.6 ypc and UW is averaging 5.5 ypc.

We can't afford for our players to overlook SJSU and we need them to go into that game with a chip on their shoulder but this is a game we run away with as long as we play our game. Nobody has done a prediction thread yet, but I'm going to put us down for a 49-21 point win.

EDIT: our opponents are a combined 4-1 in games against schools not named WSU. SJSU's opponents are 2-4 outside of their games against the Spartans.
The line has dropped. Betting is coming in on SDSU.

Games that aren’t on Saturdays add another element of scary.
 
The line has dropped. Betting is coming in on SDSU.

Games that aren’t on Saturdays add another element of scary.
Good thing we are playing SJSU then.

We are not going to have a letdown. I'm thinking 42-14. Eckhaus gets reps in the 4th quarter.
 
If we need four field goals from Janikowski....I'm going to start feeling nervous. LOL.
I'm OK with 3 FGs. If they come in the 4th quarter after Mateer and Eckhaus have finished for the day, and we have Jaxon Potter running the scout team through the last 10 minutes.
 
We've all been Cougs long enough to know that this is a losable game if we don't play well. SJSU are undefeated this year. The road win at Air Force was legit. Last season the lost by 8 at Boise, whipped Fresno by 20+ and beat UNLV.

How many reminders do we need? Stanford last season?
 
Last week was one of the most emotional wins in WSU history, and playing 6 days after an Apple Cup win is uncharted territory. The one thing that gives me some confidence is that people forget how big the home field advantage is in college. If were were playing in San Jose this would be a tossup.
 

Fresh off Apple Cup win, WSU gears up for San Jose State’s ‘explosive’ offense​

Greg Woods
Sep. 19, 2024 at 5:18 pm

The Spokesman-Review
PULLMAN — Last weekend, before Washington State hit the road for Seattle to take on rival Washington, Brock Dieu checked in with one of his professors. The Cougars’ starting right guard was going to miss Friday’s class, so he asked what makeup work he might need to do.

Nothing, the professor told Dieu, it’s a review day.

“But one thing,” they added. “Go beat the Huskies.”

WSU did just that, making a fourth-quarter goal-line stand that will live in program lore forever. After their first Apple Cup win in three seasons, Dieu and the Cougs poured onto the field for a celebration years in the making.

Now the challenge for Washington State has changed. On a short week, WSU must turn its attention to a home matchup with San Jose State, set for 7 p.m. Friday. The Cougs have road tests against Boise State and Fresno State after that, so for them, it’s important to give the Spartans their full attention.

That might start with understanding the challenge San Jose State will present. The Spartans (3-0) wield Pro Football Focus’ highest-graded Mountain West Conference offense and defense, earning grades of 73.6 and 82.5, respectively. Their quarterback is sophomore Emmett Brown, who began his career with his freshman season at WSU last fall.

In double-digit wins over Sacramento State, Air Force and Kennesaw State, SJSU has unleashed a potent offense. The Spartans’ passing offense ranks tops in the Mountain West and No. 23 in the country. Brown has already piled up 915 passing yards, completing 63 of 104 passes (61%) for nine touchdowns and two interceptions.

He has a bona fide weapon in star receiver Nick Nash, a fifth-year senior whose 6-foot-3 frame makes him dangerous in the slot. He has hauled in 34 receptions for 485 yards and six touchdowns, making him PFF’s fifth-highest-graded receiver nationwide. His six touchdown receptions rank first in the country — regardless of position.

On offense, SJSU’s other options include senior receiver Justin Lockhart, who has logged 11 catches for 192 yards and two touchdowns, second on the team behind Nash in all three categories. Running backs Floyd Chalk IV and Jabari Bates have split carries, combining for 224 yards and two touchdowns in three games so far.

“It’s explosive, absolutely explosive,” WSU defensive coordinator Jeff Schmedding said of SJSU’s offense. “I think they push the ball downfield. They do it in a couple different ways, whether it’s drop-back pass or RPO. I think they have a really good set of receivers, and they do a good job protecting them. It’s a new challenge. It’s 100% a new challenge, and it’s gonna be a lot different each week.”

On defense, San Jose State has bounced back from its season-opener by allowing just seven points to Air Force and 10 to Kennesaw State, producing a defense that ranks second in the conference in both tackling (76.6 grade) and pass rush (79.5 grade). The engineers of the operation have been defenders like lineman Soane Toia, who leads the team with seven pressures; linebacker Jordan Pollard, who leads the team with 24 tackles; and safety Isiah Revis, who has produced two pass-breakups.

Perhaps most important, the Spartans have registered six interceptions and four fumble recoveries, tying for the national lead with 10 total takeaways.

“Defensively, they’re willing to attack. They’re gonna get across our line of scrimmage in a hurry,” WSU coach Jake Dickert said. “There’s not a lot of read-and-react to it. It is go. They have 10 takeaways in the first three games. That’s hard to do. So it’s a fast, aggressive style. Obviously, their head coach has been through everything. I’m just thankful he’s not running the triple option.”

Dickert was referencing first-year SJSU head coach Ken Niumatalolo, who ran the triple-option offense at his previous stop of Air Force.

The Cougars won’t need to defend that, but they will need to improve in the tackling department, where they’re second in the country in missed tackles with 51. Context is important here — WSU is one of four teams nationwide to take down two Power Four teams this season, giving the Cougs competition few other teams have had — but there’s no denying WSU has work to do on defense.

The Cougs will get a chance to improve against a quarterback who was on their team last fall, who has fostered one of the country’s best offenses this season.

“This is the Bay Area’s best team in the last four or five years,” WSU coach Jake Dickert said. “There’s no question about it.”

Greg Woods Washington State beat writer for The Spokesman-Review
 
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Fresh off Apple Cup win, WSU gears up for San Jose State’s ‘explosive’ offense​

Greg Woods

Sep. 19, 2024 at 5:18 pm

The Spokesman-Review
PULLMAN — Last weekend, before Washington State hit the road for Seattle to take on rival Washington, Brock Dieu checked in with one of his professors. The Cougars’ starting right guard was going to miss Friday’s class, so he asked what makeup work he might need to do.

Nothing, the professor told Dieu, it’s a review day.

“But one thing,” they added. “Go beat the Huskies.”

WSU did just that, making a fourth-quarter goal-line stand that will live in program lore forever. After their first Apple Cup win in three seasons, Dieu and the Cougs poured onto the field for a celebration years in the making.

Now the challenge for Washington State has changed. On a short week, WSU must turn its attention to a home matchup with San Jose State, set for 7 p.m. Friday. The Cougs have road tests against Boise State and Fresno State after that, so for them, it’s important to give the Spartans their full attention.

That might start with understanding the challenge San Jose State will present. The Spartans (3-0) wield Pro Football Focus’ highest-graded Mountain West Conference offense and defense, earning grades of 73.6 and 82.5, respectively. Their quarterback is sophomore Emmett Brown, who began his career with his freshman season at WSU last fall.

In double-digit wins over Sacramento State, Air Force and Kennesaw State, SJSU has unleashed a potent offense. The Spartans’ passing offense ranks tops in the Mountain West and No. 23 in the country. Brown has already piled up 915 passing yards, completing 63 of 104 passes (61%) for nine touchdowns and two interceptions.

He has a bona fide weapon in star receiver Nick Nash, a fifth-year senior whose 6-foot-3 frame makes him dangerous in the slot. He has hauled in 34 receptions for 485 yards and six touchdowns, making him PFF’s fifth-highest-graded receiver nationwide. His six touchdown receptions rank first in the country — regardless of position.

On offense, SJSU’s other options include senior receiver Justin Lockhart, who has logged 11 catches for 192 yards and two touchdowns, second on the team behind Nash in all three categories. Running backs Floyd Chalk IV and Jabari Bates have split carries, combining for 224 yards and two touchdowns in three games so far.

“It’s explosive, absolutely explosive,” WSU defensive coordinator Jeff Schmedding said of SJSU’s offense. “I think they push the ball downfield. They do it in a couple different ways, whether it’s drop-back pass or RPO. I think they have a really good set of receivers, and they do a good job protecting them. It’s a new challenge. It’s 100% a new challenge, and it’s gonna be a lot different each week.”

On defense, San Jose State has bounced back from its season-opener by allowing just seven points to Air Force and 10 to Kennesaw State, producing a defense that ranks second in the conference in both tackling (76.6 grade) and pass rush (79.5 grade). The engineers of the operation have been defenders like lineman Soane Toia, who leads the team with seven pressures; linebacker Jordan Pollard, who leads the team with 24 tackles; and safety Isiah Revis, who has produced two pass-breakups.

Perhaps most important, the Spartans have registered six interceptions and four fumble recoveries, tying for the national lead with 10 total takeaways.

“Defensively, they’re willing to attack. They’re gonna get across our line of scrimmage in a hurry,” WSU coach Jake Dickert said. “There’s not a lot of read-and-react to it. It is go. They have 10 takeaways in the first three games. That’s hard to do. So it’s a fast, aggressive style. Obviously, their head coach has been through everything. I’m just thankful he’s not running the triple option.”

Dickert was referencing first-year SJSU head coach Ken Niumatalolo, who ran the triple-option offense at his previous stop of Air Force.

The Cougars won’t need to defend that, but they will need to improve in the tackling department, where they’re second in the country in missed tackles with 51. Context is important here — WSU is one of four teams nationwide to take down two Power Four teams this season, giving the Cougs competition few other teams have had — but there’s no denying WSU has work to do on defense.

The Cougs will get a chance to improve against a quarterback who was on their team last fall, who has fostered one of the country’s best offenses this season.

“This is the Bay Area’s best team in the last four or five years,” WSU coach Jake Dickert said. “There’s no question about it.”

Greg Woods Washington State beat writer for The Spokesman-Review
Nash is giving me Cooper Kupp nightmares. Our corners and safeties are 4” shorter.
 
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Nash is giving me Cooper Kupp nightmares. Our corners and safeties are 4” shorter.
Yes, it's a concern, but we didn't have any running game last time we played the Eagles. Slowing down the game (as opposed to trading ~2:30 scoring possessions all night) gives the defense a chance to rest and adjust. Sure, the DBs can't grow 4" at halftime, but longer drives help to mitigate Nash somewhat.
 

Fresh off Apple Cup win, WSU gears up for San Jose State’s ‘explosive’ offense​

Greg Woods
Sep. 19, 2024 at 5:18 pm

The Spokesman-Review
PULLMAN — Last weekend, before Washington State hit the road for Seattle to take on rival Washington, Brock Dieu checked in with one of his professors. The Cougars’ starting right guard was going to miss Friday’s class, so he asked what makeup work he might need to do.

Nothing, the professor told Dieu, it’s a review day.

“But one thing,” they added. “Go beat the Huskies.”

WSU did just that, making a fourth-quarter goal-line stand that will live in program lore forever. After their first Apple Cup win in three seasons, Dieu and the Cougs poured onto the field for a celebration years in the making.

Now the challenge for Washington State has changed. On a short week, WSU must turn its attention to a home matchup with San Jose State, set for 7 p.m. Friday. The Cougs have road tests against Boise State and Fresno State after that, so for them, it’s important to give the Spartans their full attention.

That might start with understanding the challenge San Jose State will present. The Spartans (3-0) wield Pro Football Focus’ highest-graded Mountain West Conference offense and defense, earning grades of 73.6 and 82.5, respectively. Their quarterback is sophomore Emmett Brown, who began his career with his freshman season at WSU last fall.

In double-digit wins over Sacramento State, Air Force and Kennesaw State, SJSU has unleashed a potent offense. The Spartans’ passing offense ranks tops in the Mountain West and No. 23 in the country. Brown has already piled up 915 passing yards, completing 63 of 104 passes (61%) for nine touchdowns and two interceptions.

He has a bona fide weapon in star receiver Nick Nash, a fifth-year senior whose 6-foot-3 frame makes him dangerous in the slot. He has hauled in 34 receptions for 485 yards and six touchdowns, making him PFF’s fifth-highest-graded receiver nationwide. His six touchdown receptions rank first in the country — regardless of position.

On offense, SJSU’s other options include senior receiver Justin Lockhart, who has logged 11 catches for 192 yards and two touchdowns, second on the team behind Nash in all three categories. Running backs Floyd Chalk IV and Jabari Bates have split carries, combining for 224 yards and two touchdowns in three games so far.

“It’s explosive, absolutely explosive,” WSU defensive coordinator Jeff Schmedding said of SJSU’s offense. “I think they push the ball downfield. They do it in a couple different ways, whether it’s drop-back pass or RPO. I think they have a really good set of receivers, and they do a good job protecting them. It’s a new challenge. It’s 100% a new challenge, and it’s gonna be a lot different each week.”

On defense, San Jose State has bounced back from its season-opener by allowing just seven points to Air Force and 10 to Kennesaw State, producing a defense that ranks second in the conference in both tackling (76.6 grade) and pass rush (79.5 grade). The engineers of the operation have been defenders like lineman Soane Toia, who leads the team with seven pressures; linebacker Jordan Pollard, who leads the team with 24 tackles; and safety Isiah Revis, who has produced two pass-breakups.

Perhaps most important, the Spartans have registered six interceptions and four fumble recoveries, tying for the national lead with 10 total takeaways.

“Defensively, they’re willing to attack. They’re gonna get across our line of scrimmage in a hurry,” WSU coach Jake Dickert said. “There’s not a lot of read-and-react to it. It is go. They have 10 takeaways in the first three games. That’s hard to do. So it’s a fast, aggressive style. Obviously, their head coach has been through everything. I’m just thankful he’s not running the triple option.”

Dickert was referencing first-year SJSU head coach Ken Niumatalolo, who ran the triple-option offense at his previous stop of Air Force.

The Cougars won’t need to defend that, but they will need to improve in the tackling department, where they’re second in the country in missed tackles with 51. Context is important here — WSU is one of four teams nationwide to take down two Power Four teams this season, giving the Cougs competition few other teams have had — but there’s no denying WSU has work to do on defense.

The Cougs will get a chance to improve against a quarterback who was on their team last fall, who has fostered one of the country’s best offenses this season.

“This is the Bay Area’s best team in the last four or five years,” WSU coach Jake Dickert said. “There’s no question about it.”

Greg Woods Washington State beat writer for The Spokesman-Review
Dickert is subtle. Message beneath the message. Stanford and Cal suck.
 
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