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So your saying there’s a chance?!

Coach Smith had a zoom meeting with Eastern Kentucky guard Wendell Green 15.8 pts a game

Wendell Green would be fantastic. Probably leads to someone moving on as there aren't a ton of minutes to go around if he comes in and snags most of the minutes Bonton is leaving.

Eason would be fantastic as well.
 
Wendell Green would be fantastic. Probably leads to someone moving on as there aren't a ton of minutes to go around if he comes in and snags most of the minutes Bonton is leaving.

Eason would be fantastic as well.

Wonder if this means that either Champ has said no to WSU, or is not deciding quick enough, not saying yes fast enough, and if Wendel Green is the Plan B to Champ?

I cant imagine All 3 of Eason, Champ, Green going to WSU because of:

1. Myles Rice, and Tyrell Roberts, already in the class.

2. Not enough schollies, and so Rapp and 1 other would have to leave WSU to free up 2 more schollies(Kunc Leaving freed up 1 scholly for 1 of the 3, and would need 2 more schollies from Rapp and 1 other leaving for the other 2 of the 3, if WSU were to get all 3)

3. Because of points 1 and 2 above, I dont think WSU would go after all 3 at same time to try to get all 3, so because of that, it seems likely that either Champ is saying no or not deciding fast enough or Wendel Green is Plan B.
 
Wonder if this means that either Champ has said no to WSU, or is not deciding quick enough, not saying yes fast enough, and if Wendel Green is the Plan B to Champ?

I cant imagine All 3 of Eason, Champ, Green going to WSU because of:

1. Myles Rice, and Tyrell Roberts, already in the class.

2. Not enough schollies, and so Rapp and 1 other would have to leave WSU to free up 2 more schollies(Kunc Leaving freed up 1 scholly for 1 of the 3, and would need 2 more schollies from Rapp and 1 other leaving for the other 2 of the 3, if WSU were to get all 3)

3. Because of points 1 and 2 above, I dont think WSU would go after all 3 at same time to try to get all 3, so because of that, it seems likely that either Champ is saying no or not deciding fast enough or Wendel Green is Plan B.
Why would it have to be Rapp and one other player leaving? Why not just leave names out of it completely and simply say 2 players would have to leave. There's no requirement that a specific player has to be shown the door. Maybe Coach Smith values Rapp a lot more than you do?

Glad Cougar
 
I’m sure we are currently actively recruiting many players most of which we don’t even know of. My personal feeling is Champ is very unlikely, he is looking for a higher profile school. Eason is probably a possibility but it wouldn’t surprise me if he goes to Pepperdine. No matter how anybody on this board feels about Rapp coach Smith showed more confidence in his abilities than he did with Rosario and even Bamba. It still wouldn’t shock me if AJ bails back to Europe to go pro.
 
I’m sure we are currently actively recruiting many players most of which we don’t even know of. My personal feeling is Champ is very unlikely, he is looking for a higher profile school. Eason is probably a possibility but it wouldn’t surprise me if he goes to Pepperdine. No matter how anybody on this board feels about Rapp coach Smith showed more confidence in his abilities than he did with Rosario and even Bamba. It still wouldn’t shock me if AJ bails back to Europe to go pro.

The Smith having more confidence in Rapp, then Rosario, Bamba thing, will probably change.

Rapp is SLOW, but has good technique, lunch pail.

Rosario is way the heck more athletic, faster, speedier, jumps higher, etc, but is RAW, and is thinner a wire, and weighs less then a piece of paper, on a 6ft 7 in frame. If you blow on him, he will fall down.

That said he has more UPSIDE, and a HIGHER CEILING then Rapp, and was a good reason why he was rated 4 FOUR STARS, and why he got good offers, unlike Rapp who was only a 2.5 star, didnt have the kind of offers Rosario had.

Rosario pretty much REDSHIRTED to GAIN weight. Only reason he played any, was because of injuries, and because he started to get better in practice, etc.

Guarantee, barring injuries, etc, Rosario will be better then Rapp by the time he is a Jr/Senior.

And you can pretty much say the same about Bamba vs Rapp.

You might be right about AJ, IF IF it was the end of AJ's soph year, instead of the end of his freshman year.

AJ got about 13 to 25 minutes per game this his freshman year. And he averaged, when he got the bulk of his minutes, about 9.5 ppg, and 5,6,7,8,9 rebounds per game. He usually played pretty well in the bulk of his minutes, except for about 1,2 bad games, against tougher Pac 12 competition. He started ok, came on strong mid season, and faded at the end of the season.

If he only gets 13 to 20 minutes next season his sophmore year, he would probably go back to Europe to play pro ball.

But if he gets about 26+ minutes and is a 6th or 7th man off bench for insta production, next season, then he would probably stay after that.

Also keep in mind that European Transfers are like JC transfers, in that it usually takes them awhile to adapt, adjust to the USA College game.

Also it took Motum, and Baynes, a while to adjust, adapt too, and that the same could be true for AJ as well.

AJ probably knows about that, so thats another reason he AJ might stay.

That said, it wouldnt be a total, complete shock if AJ went back to Europe, like you said.

But all that said, Rapp is probably the lowest on the scholly totem pole, as Vova, AJ, Dischon, Efe, Noah, Koulibaly, Bamba, Rosario, all have higher upsides, potential, etc, and are higher on the totem pole then Rapp.

Rapp really is the only scholly, that WSU can afford to have leave.

But be that as it is, WSU is going to have to have 2 transfer, and the best candidates for that are Rapp and somebody else.
 
I don’t think AJ will leave and really hope he doesn’t but it wouldn’t shock me either. I agree he hit a slump toward the end of the year but showed flashes of potential to be a very strong PAC 12 player. By my count we have one open scholarship, I think we fill that and keep all the remaining players.
 
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I don’t think AJ will leave and really hope he doesn’t but it wouldn’t shock me either. I agree he hit a slump toward the end of the year but showed flashes of potential to be a very strong PAC 12 player. By my count we have one open scholarship, I think we fill that and keep all the remaining players.
It wouldn’t shock me either. Smith was pretty clear that it was us or pro ball in Europe. He apparently wasn’t interested in playing at another college program.
 
o keep in mind that European Transfers are like JC transfers, in that it usually takes them awhile to adapt, adjust to the USA College game.

Also it took Motum, and Baynes, a while to adjust, adapt too, and that the same could be true for AJ as well.
Baynes and Motum were not European players. Please try and get something right.
 
Baynes and Motum were not European players. Please try and get something right.

Your missing the point that Motum and Baynes as Australian players were the equivalent of European players.

The Australian bball program is VERY LIKE the European Bball program.

Especially the Eastern block of European players/program.

The Eastern European players(Macedonia, Greece, Lithania, Ukraine, Russian, Australian, New Zealand, are EXTREMELY similar in their Bball programs.

Especially in the FIBA BBall Pro Leagues, Olympic teams, the U17+ programs, and the INSTITUTES of SPORT, and NBA GLOBAL ACADEMIES, in those countries.

COLLECTIVELY those countries, bball programs, etc, are called either FOREIGN BALL, or EUROPEAN BALL or EUROPEAN STYLE BALL.

The players from those places, are often referred to as EUROPEAN players, and Russian Players, or Foreign players.

So when I said that Baynes, Motum were European players, while I was technically wrong, since they are, were Australian players, they are, were pretty much your A typical EURO BALL, or EURO ball style, or FIBA, U17+, Foreign Euro style type of league, country type of player.

The LARGER point you MISSED, is that overseas players from those above mentioned Euro esque countries, etc, are like JC transfer players, that both JC, and Overseas Euro esque players like Baynes and Motum, often take some time to adapt, just like with JC.

You missed that point and instead decided to get all technical and nitpicky.
 
Why would it have to be Rapp and one other player leaving? Why not just leave names out of it completely and simply say 2 players would have to leave. There's no requirement that a specific player has to be shown the door. Maybe Coach Smith values Rapp a lot more than you do?

Glad Cougar
White guys always hate Rapp
 
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Hey, it would be great, awesome, IF Kunc, could have been kept, AND if Rapp didnt need to be encouraged to Transfer.

Every program needs bench players like them, IF there is room for them, IF their scholly's are not needed by better players.

Kunc's Scholly makes it possible to get either Tari Eason, or Wendell Green, who are both probably either are or will be better then Kunc.

Rapp's or another Scholly is needed for the other of either Tari, or Wendell Green who again are, is probably better then Rapp or will be better then Rapp.

The reason why Rapp, is because Noah Williams, Koulibaly, Bamba, Efe, Dischon, Vova, AJ, Rosario, etc, are either better, more experienced, higher potential upside ceiling, more athleticism, more skill, more talent, etc.

Only thing Rapp has over any of them, except Noah, is better shooter, and maybe better technique then some of them. Also has leadership, and is a LUNCH PAIL HARD WORKER, HUSTLES, and the ATHLETIC feature that he has is LENGTH, WING SPAN, semi quick at times, when he is not semi somewhat slower LATERALLY that REMY, VERGE, exposed.

Rapp is probably only going to get 13 to 23 minutes per game, which is nothing to Snide at. And he is BEHIND Koulibaly, Tyrell Roberts, Rice at PG. And behind Noah, Bamba, AJ, Rosario at the 3 spot, and Noah, Bamba, Koulibaly, at the 2 spot.

Also if he Rapp is better then AJ, Bamba, Rosario, etc, its only temporarily better, because when AJ, Bamba, Rosario, are College Seniors, they would probably be better then Rapp as a College Senior.

Now if Chatfield, Warren, were to have been on scholly's instead of the walk on's that they were, then you could advocate for keeping Rapp, and encouraging Chatfield, Warren to transfer to free up a scholly, instead of Rapp's scholly. But Chatfield, Warren are Walk Ons.

If any of you think Rapp should be kept, and some other player transfer to free up a scholly for either Green or Tari, then who would it be? Who is Rapp better then? And why?
 
Bird in the hand.

Coach Smith who recruited him to San Francisco and rerecruited him to WSU. Gave him the sixth most minutes per game on the team. Started him most times when guard starter was out. Has watched him in practice for two years and in games and game film for two years seems to disagree with you. How much time was Rosario getting?
 
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Bird in the hand.

Coach Smith who recruited him to San Francisco and rerecruited him to WSU. Gave him the sixth most minutes per game on the team. Started him most times when guard starter was out. Has watched him in practice for two years and in games and game film for two years seems to disagree with you. How much time was Rosario getting?

Like I said, there is no question that Rapp during his freshman, sophmore year, years, was, is better then Rosario's Freshman year, BUT ONLY BECAUSE:

1. ROSARIO WEIGHED LESS THEN A PIECE OF PAPER THAT YOU COULD BLOW ON HIM AND HE WOULD FALL OVER.

2. BECAUSE OF THAT HE WAS PRACTICALLY, OR ALMOST COMPLETELY REDSHIRTED

3. THE ONLY REASON FOR THAT WAS FOR HIM TO PUT ON WEIGHT.

4. THE ONLY REASON HE PLAYED INSTEAD OF COMPLETING HIS REDSHIRT TO PUT ON MORE WEIGHT, WAS BECAUSE OF INJURIES, AND BECAUSE HE ROSARIO WAS DOING TO GOOD IN PRACTICE TO NOT HAVE HIM PLAY.

ROSARIO, is, was a 4, FOUR STAR, ONE OF THE HIGHEST RATED RECRUITS IN ALL OF WSU HISTORY.

HE Rosario had lots of good offers from good programs, many of which better then WSU, that Smith beat out for Rosario.

You dont recruit such a player, if your a WSU, to practically Redshirt, and then encourage them to transfer next season, because Rapp is supposedly TEMPORARILY better, more developed.

Rosario is 6 foot 7 inches, and is a SEAN ELLIOT, MALIK SEALY TYPE HYBRID, that can play the 2,3,4 spots, that is EXTREMELY ATHLETIC, but RAW as all Heck.

Rapp is, was a 2.5 star, 2 star by some recruit ranking services, and 3 stars by other recruit ranking services, and either didnt have hardly any good offers, an or at least had LESS offers, LESS GOOD OFFERS then Rosario.

Rosario has a HIGHER POTENTIAL TO HAVE A HIGHER UPSIDE, HIGHER CEILING then Rapp, who lack of Lateral quickness was EXPOSED by REMY, VERGE of ASU, and by others.

While Rapp is now temporarily better then Rosario, that wont ve the case for long.

And by the time, by the end of Rosario's Soph year, to beginning of Rosario's Junior year, at the latest, Rosario will be BETTER then Rapp.

I guarantee you, that if Smith, Shaw, Phelps, etc, had to get 1 more in addition to Kunc, to leave to make a scholly available for Tari, Green, and if they had to choose between either encouraging Rapp to Transfer, or encouraging Rosario to transfer, to free up a scholly, that they would choose to have Rosario stay, and encourage Rapp to Transfer to free up that scholly.

Once Rosario puts on some WEIGHT, and once Rosario loses his RAWNESS, and develops, and gets more skilled, etc, Rosario probably will be better then Rapp.

Guarantee that Rapp gets 13 to 23 minutes per game this coming next season.

Rosario will get about 15 to 30 minutes per game, depending on how much, if he develops, as a semi unknown for this coming season.

But by the next season after this coming next season, Rosario will get about 33 minutes per game, while Rapp would get about 15 to 26 minutes per game.

The college game LIKE the NBA is about LIKELY UPSIDE CEILING POTENTIAL.

And Rosario is HIGHER UPSIDE, CEILING POTENTIAL then Rapp.

Now whether Rosario REACHES, PANS OUT HIS ON PAPER HIGHER UPSIDE, HIGHER CEILING, HIGHER POTENTIAL, then Rapp, remains to be seen.
 
I need some help here to keep this all straight. With Bonton & Kunc both leaving, that gives WSU 2 scholarships to give out. I'm assuming Myles Rice & Tyrell Roberts get those. I haven't heard a thing about Tony Miller, but he was on scholarship, too. If he decides to leave, that will provide a scholarship for Tari Eason or some other worthy recruit. Am I missing something?

And there's always the possibility of a guy like Rosario or even AJ deciding to leave. I haven't heard anything and I hope they stay, but you never know. So many players are heading to the portal these days.

Glad Cougar
 
We have hardly seen Rosario play so we really don’t know much about his game. I hope he sticks with WSU and keeps developing. Rapp however limited is a proven commodity we know he is a solid back-up to both guard spots. Sounding more and more like we are out of the loop for Tari. Recruiting rankings and stars mean nothing once you start practice in college. If you don’t produce in practice it doesn’t matter how many stars you had. FYI he didn’t redshirt because this year was a freebie and didn’t count against him.
 
I need some help here to keep this all straight. With Bonton & Kunc both leaving, that gives WSU 2 scholarships to give out. I'm assuming Myles Rice & Tyrell Roberts get those. I haven't heard a thing about Tony Miller, but he was on scholarship, too. If he decides to leave, that will provide a scholarship for Tari Eason or some other worthy recruit. Am I missing something?

And there's always the possibility of a guy like Rosario or even AJ deciding to leave. I haven't heard anything and I hope they stay, but you never know. So many players are heading to the portal these days.

Glad Cougar
Miller was a Senior and if he doesn't leave he doesn't eat a scholarship because of covid. But as far as I know he has left the team. Both he and Bonton if they come back won't count against the 13. So Rice and Roberts have those 2 and with Kunc transfering there is one opening.
 
Bird in the hand.

Coach Smith who recruited him to San Francisco and rerecruited him to WSU. Gave him the sixth most minutes per game on the team. Started him most times when guard starter was out. Has watched him in practice for two years and in games and game film for two years seems to disagree with you. How much time was Rosario getting?
From all I have read, Rosario was injured a great deal of last season. When he was finally healthy, he was out of the rotation, as he was so far behind the others by then. This year is really meaningless as far as how good he can become and what Coach Smith thinks of him going forward.
 
I need some help here to keep this all straight. With Bonton & Kunc both leaving, that gives WSU 2 scholarships to give out. I'm assuming Myles Rice & Tyrell Roberts get those. I haven't heard a thing about Tony Miller, but he was on scholarship, too. If he decides to leave, that will provide a scholarship for Tari Eason or some other worthy recruit. Am I missing something?

And there's always the possibility of a guy like Rosario or even AJ deciding to leave. I haven't heard anything and I hope they stay, but you never know. So many players are heading to the portal these days.

Glad Cougar

Assuming, IF AJ or Bamba or Rosario do NOT transfer of their OWN ACCORD.

Miller is a Senior, has the option to come back.

IF he on his own chooses to not comeback, his scholly will goto either Tari or Green(Assuming, IF WSU gets both of them, instead of only getting 1 or none)

IF Miller stays, then he would likely be encouraged to move on to free up his scholly for either Tari, or Green, since Vova, Efe, Dischon, Tari an or AJ, would likely be ahead of Miller on depth chart.

That would leave either Rapp, Rosario, Bamba, AJ, as candidates to transfer to free up a scholly for either Tari, Green, the one that didnt get Miller's Scholly.

Now sure AJ, Rosario could theoretically choose to transfer on their own, without encouragement.

But If they stay and dont transfer on their own, without encouragement, then it likely becomes a choice between either Rapp or Rosario, as far as Smith, Shaw, Phelps, encouraging one of the 2, to transfer, to free up a scholly for either Tari or Green, whichever didnt get Miller's scholly.

In that scenario(See what I said above about Rosario vs Rapp, its likely that Smith, Shaw, Phelps, would encourage Rapp to transfer to free up a scholly for either Tari or Green, whichever didnt get Miller's scholly, and Rosario would likely be encouraged to stay over Rapp.

But this is all likelyhoods, probabilities, etc, nothing is for certain, and almost anything could in theory happen, so we'll see how things shake out.
 
From all I have read, Rosario was injured a great deal of last season. When he was finally healthy, he was out of the rotation, as he was so far behind the others by then. This year is really meaningless as far as how good he can become and what Coach Smith thinks of him going forward.
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From all I have read, Rosario was injured a great deal of last season. When he was finally healthy, he was out of the rotation, as he was so far behind the others by then. This year is really meaningless as far as how good he can become and what Coach Smith thinks of him going forward.
From all I have read, Rosario was injured a great deal of last season. When he was finally healthy, he was out of the rotation, as he was so far behind the others by then. This year is really meaningless as far as how good he can become and what Coach Smith thinks of him going forward.

Forgot about the injury as well, but the injury gave them the excuse to want to try and Redshirt him, for him to gain weight.

As far as how good he is, will be. Altho we dont know, he is still rated to HAVE A HIGHER UPSIDE, CEILING, POTENTIAL, to be better then Rapp.

It remains to be seen whether he reaches, pans out his upside, ceiling, potential, etc.
 
forgot about the injury as well, but the injury gave them the excuse to want to try and Redshirt him, fir him to gain weight.

As far as how good he is, will be. Altho we dont know, he is still rated to HAVE A HIGHER UPSIDE, CEILING, POTENTIAL, to be better then Rapp.

It remains to be seen whether he reaches, pans out his upside, ceiling, potential, etc.
 
Miller’s scholarship is Miller’s or nobodies, doesn’t count against the 13 but is gone when he goes same with Bonton.
 
We have hardly seen Rosario play so we really don’t know much about his game. I hope he sticks with WSU and keeps developing. Rapp however limited is a proven commodity we know he is a solid back-up to both guard spots. Sounding more and more like we are out of the loop for Tari. Recruiting rankings and stars mean nothing once you start practice in college. If you don’t produce in practice it doesn’t matter how many stars you had. FYI he didn’t redshirt because this year was a freebie and didn’t count against him.

Rapp has at least 2 in front of him at each of the 1,2,3 spots, thats not solid back up, thats 13 to 23 minutes per game, wherever he can get those minutes back up, not rock solid back up.

Koulibaly, Tyrell Roberts, Rice are ahead of Rapp at PG. Thats not solid back up at the PG spot.

Noah, Koulibaly, Bamba are ahead of Rapp at the 2 guard, again not solid back up.

And Noah, Bamba, AJ, Rosario are ahead of Rapp at the 3, again not solid back up.

And Rosario because of his INJURY, and being UNDERWEIGHT, was PRACTICALLY ALMOST REDSHIRTED.

Yes technically because of Covid, it wasnt technically a Redshirt year.

But the coaches at the beginning of the year, did not know the year wasnt going to be a Redshirt year, because of Covid.

The coaching staff, wanted to, and thought they were going to Redshirt Rosario because of injury to Rosario, and Rosario being UNDERWEIGHT, to overcome injury, and to gain weight.

Because of Injuries to other players, and because he recovered from his own injury, faster, and because he was doing too good in practice to not play, so he was played later in the season.

It was a REDSHIRT LIKE ESQUE SEASON FOR ROSARIO, as far as helping him to overcome injury, and to help him gain weight.

You can stop technically nitpicking and missing the point that was made.
 
I have very high hopes for Jefferson, and I’m intrigued by Roberts but until they beat him out Rapp is farther up that depth chart than you think. Roberts had a stellar D2 season two years ago sat out last year and now transferred to WSU. Don’t know much about his story, why did he go D2? Was he under the radar or did he develop his game that much? Not sure but he can certainly shoot. Big step from D2 to D1 time will tell if it’s to big. Personally I want Green to fill the available spot and call it good. This might be premature but I have my doubts about Rice being ready next year.
 
I have very high hopes for Jefferson, and I’m intrigued by Roberts but until they beat him out Rapp is farther up that depth chart than you think. Roberts had a stellar D2 season two years ago sat out last year and now transferred to WSU. Don’t know much about his story, why did he go D2? Was he under the radar or did he develop his game that much? Not sure but he can certainly shoot. Big step from D2 to D1 time will tell if it’s to big. Personally I want Green to fill the available spot and call it good. This might be premature but I have my doubts about Rice being ready next year.

Rapp's minutes trended down as Pac-12 play went on and only increased due to injuries to Bonton and Bamba. I think he's someone who can be really effective for 10-20 minutes a game in certain match ups while giving a quick breather against more difficult ones. He was a decent enough ball handler to steal a few minutes while Isaac or Noah needed a rest last year. Fitzgerald was the more dynamic player but Ryan definitely brought a pass first mentality to the position. I understand why he was the guy off the bench last year: he was the guy least likely to melt down in limited minutes. Classic higher floor play.

But if you stretch his minutes out and gameplan for him to be a major rotation piece consistently getting 20+ minutes a game, his production is going to fall off like a rock. Teams will game plan for his flaws and will exploit them like crazy.

It's common for basketball players who are quality role players to become useless if given too much playing time. Carter Skaggs was one such player. One of the best three point shooters in school history who could do little else. If we had kept him around 8 min a game he would have been pretty lethal. But when Ernie was giving him 20+ a game, coaches figured out how to exploit his weaknesses on the floor.

Back to this year's bench players, I didn't see Jaz as someone who would play a larger role next year than what he did this year. Same applies for Ryan. Odds are, barring injuries, that he'll get fewer minutes next year than he did this year. Bamba will probably see an increase in PT. Same for Rosario. I can't make my mind up on Vova.
 
I agree Rapp is not a starter at this level back-up yes necessary imo yes but starter no.
 
Rapp's minutes trended down as Pac-12 play went on and only increased due to injuries to Bonton and Bamba. I think he's someone who can be really effective for 10-20 minutes a game in certain match ups while giving a quick breather against more difficult ones. He was a decent enough ball handler to steal a few minutes while Isaac or Noah needed a rest last year. Fitzgerald was the more dynamic player but Ryan definitely brought a pass first mentality to the position. I understand why he was the guy off the bench last year: he was the guy least likely to melt down in limited minutes. Classic higher floor play.

But if you stretch his minutes out and gameplan for him to be a major rotation piece consistently getting 20+ minutes a game, his production is going to fall off like a rock. Teams will game plan for his flaws and will exploit them like crazy.

It's common for basketball players who are quality role players to become useless if given too much playing time. Carter Skaggs was one such player. One of the best three point shooters in school history who could do little else. If we had kept him around 8 min a game he would have been pretty lethal. But when Ernie was giving him 20+ a game, coaches figured out how to exploit his weaknesses on the floor.

Back to this year's bench players, I didn't see Jaz as someone who would play a larger role next year than what he did this year. Same applies for Ryan. Odds are, barring injuries, that he'll get fewer minutes next year than he did this year. Bamba will probably see an increase in PT. Same for Rosario. I can't make my mind up on Vova.

THIS THAT ^^^^^^^^^

Also Koulibaly is either a starter or #1 back up at either PG, or SG spot.

Koulibaly was THE BEST PLAYER IN ALL OF CANADA. And was a 3.5 star recruit.

And SMITH said that Koulibaly was the BEST LOCK DOWN DEFENDER on the team(Pretty Good, considering the LOCK DOWN DEFENSE that NOAH played), and was a MULTI TOOL Player that can dribble, handle ball well, break ball pressure, can drive, slash, break ankles, 1 on 1 off the dribble, that can create his own shot, that passes well, shoots ok, semi good, that is extremely athletic, and has great length, wingspan, hops, lateral quickness, etc, at 6 ft, 3 in tall, that can match up with both PG, SG.

Smith had him Koulibaly practically penciled in as either starter, or #2 at either PG, SG. Then Koulibaly suffered a season ending injury.

Based on that its Ludicrous to think, say that Rapp would be higher on the depth chart then Koulibaly.

As far as Tyrell Roberts, he averaged 20 ppg, and scored 45 points in a single game. After Tyrell left, his team went from Div 2, to Div 1 Midmajor. Tyrell is recognized as the BEST PLAYER IN ALL OF DIV 2 DOM.

CREIGHTON, A PERENIAL NCAA TOURNY TEAM WANTED, WAS AFTER, WAS INTERESTED IN TYRELL, and SJSU who also often goes to the NCAA Tourny also offered Tyrell.

Div 2, is comparable to JC, and JC Transfers.

Tyrell compares favorably to Bonton who score 20 ppg in JC.

20 ppg, and 40+ in a single game at the D2, JC levels is equivalent to about 10 ppg, in the FIRST YEAR of playing Div 1 midmajor to D1 P5.

Tyrell is comparable to Bennie Seltzer, and Dominic Ellison, and Tyrone Maxey.

Tyrell is at least a #2, #3 PG at worst, and #1 PG at best.

So altho Rapp could be better then Rice, he Rapp is probably not better then Koulibaly, and Tyrell Roberts.

So best case for Rapp at PG, would be Starter: Koulibaly. #2 PG: Tyrell Roberts. #3 PG: Rapp. #4 PG: Rice.

Best case for Rapp would be if there is a injury at PG, making Rapp the #2 PG, at best.
 
We're not moving forward if Rapp is a starter.

WSU is not moving Forward if Rapp is the #2 at either of PG, SG, 3, Wing.

WSU is moving forward if Rapp is the #3 or #4 at either PG, SG, 3, Wing

And if Rapp is either #1 or #2 at any position then Smith's HIGHLY RATED 1ST, FIRST 2 RECRUITING CLASSES were way Overrated, Overhyped, etc, and Smith would be a BAD RECRUITER, EVALUATOR.
 
My hope is Jefferson is the starter. However if we sign Green that might change.
Rapp was recruited by Smith, does that make him a bad evaluator?
 
My hope is Jefferson is the starter. However if we sign Green that might change.
Rapp was recruited by Smith, does that make him a bad evaluator?

If Green comes to WSU and if Green is good enough to start over Koulibaly, Tyrell, at the PG spot, I am ok with that, because Green would have to be THAT GOOD to beat out the THAT GOOD, Koulibaly, Tyrell.

Also I could see at the PG: 1. Koulibaly/Tyrell/Green. 2. Tyrell/Koulibaly/Green. 3. Green/Koulibaly/Tyrell. 4. Green/Tyrell/Koulibaly. AND 1. KOULIBALY 2. TYRELL. 3. GREEN. 4. RAPP. 5. RICE.

Green coming in just pushes Rapp further down the depth charts
 
My hope is Jefferson is the starter. However if we sign Green that might change.
Rapp was recruited by Smith, does that make him a bad evaluator?

Smith had 6 spots to fill and only a couple of official visits for recruits because Ernie had used a ton of them before he got axed. We had to get creative.

Grabbing a high floor, low ceiling guy who already knows you and the pitch made sense.
 
Also I would say that there is now about a 50% to 67% to 85% chance, that Eason goes to WSU.

Are you saying you started off at 50% chance then after reading the article you feel like an 85% chance?

Playing with friends is huge. I agree that WSU is the front runner just based on that.
 
Are you saying you started off at 50% chance then after reading the article you feel like an 85% chance?

Playing with friends is huge. I agree that WSU is the front runner just based on that.

Its not only just the opportunity to play with his friend.

Tari Eason also has a VERY LONG RELATIONSHIP with the coaches, and LIKES WSU, and WSU's style of play.

Its all those things COMBINED, that makes WSU the Frontrunner, favorite.

It also helps that UW and Arizona are messes right now.

The only serious competitor is Shaka Smart of Marquette, as he is a ACE recruiter, and Marquette isca MARQUEE program.

WSU and Marquette are the Favorities with WSU being the Frontrunner.

But that said, weird things can happen, and Tari Eason coukd theoretically end up anywhere but WSU, so nothing is set in stone.
 
Its not only just the opportunity to play with his friend.

Tari Eason also has a VERY LONG RELATIONSHIP with the coaches, and LIKES WSU, and WSU's style of play.

Its all those things COMBINED, that makes WSU the Frontrunner, favorite.

It also helps that UW and Arizona are messes right now.

The only serious competitor is Shaka Smart of Marquette, as he is a ACE recruiter, and Marquette isca MARQUEE program.

WSU and Marquette are the Favorities with WSU being the Frontrunner.

But that said, weird things can happen, and Tari Eason coukd theoretically end up anywhere but WSU, so nothing is set in stone.
Where are reading or hearing he has a long relationship with WSU coaches and likes WSU and our style? That would be great but I can’t find anything like that anywhere. They had one zoom meeting and as far as I know nothing since. Seatle area guys usually seem to have a dislike for Pullman maybe Noah is changing that.
 
Where are reading or hearing he has a long relationship with WSU coaches and likes WSU and our style? That would be great but I can’t find anything like that anywhere. They had one zoom meeting and as far as I know nothing since. Seatle area guys usually seem to have a dislike for Pullman maybe Noah is changing that.
We offered Eason in high school. I haven't seen much more beyond the Noah connection other than that. I think to suggest "we are leading" is questionable at this point but just my opinion.
 
Where are reading or hearing he has a long relationship with WSU coaches and likes WSU and our style? That would be great but I can’t find anything like that anywhere. They had one zoom meeting and as far as I know nothing since. Seatle area guys usually seem to have a dislike for Pullman maybe Noah is changing that.

There was a link someone posted in either this thread or another thread, that was either a article or link from either Jeff Goodman, Theo, or another credible source, that had a link to a article from a credible source that DIRECTLY QUOTED Tari Eason, on, about what he Eason thinks, thought about each of the main schools on his list.

According to that, Tari Eason had said the best things about WSU.

He Tari said (Paraphrasing, almist exact qoute, but not exact word for word wording) "That He likes WSU, and Likes their style, and that HIS, "MY GUY NOAH WILLIAMS", HIS GUY Noah, his friend, goes to WSU, and that he has,"And I have a LONG relationship with the WSU coaches".

Also he has had more then just 1 Virtual Zoom calls, as he has had Virtual Zoom Calls with WSU, MORE THEN ANY OTHER PROGRAM SO FAR.

Also UW, Arizona are messes, and Tari Eason, canceled, didnt make his previoysly scheduled Zoom call with Arizona.

Also WSU is on his favorites list of colleges he is considering.

All that combined together is why WSU is a Front Runner Favorite.

Shaka Smart of Marquette could be a co frontrunner favorite, and Tari could go to Marquette.

But its basically down to, between Marquette, and WSU.

Tari could change his mind, etc, but for now, it makes the most logical, rational, reasonable, sense, that he is probably going to end up at either WSU or Marquette, with WSU just barely by skin of teeth ahead of Marquette, at least for now, and things can change.

If you want to see the link, article, then scroll, reread this thread, or the other threads, and you will eventually find it, and can read it.
 
Where are reading or hearing he has a long relationship with WSU coaches and likes WSU and our style? That would be great but I can’t find anything like that anywhere. They had one zoom meeting and as far as I know nothing since. Seatle area guys usually seem to have a dislike for Pullman maybe Noah is changing that.

Noah is like a Player coach recruiter. He Noah is working his azz off, NAGGING, Pleading, Cajoling, PITCHING, RECRUITING, SELLING WSU to CHAMP, Tari Eason, and other Seattle area kids.

Noah has a lot of friends who are good seattle area players.

He Noah is well known, respected in the seattle Area, and His NOAH's Word CARRIES A LOT OF WEIGHT, INFLUENCE.

Combine that with WSU assistant coach Shaw's roots, connection to the Seattle, Portland, West Coast area, and How Shaw, Phelps, Smith, are extremely respected in Seattle, Portland, combined with how awesome WSU is recruiting, doing, etc, and that is why things are changing, will change for the better in Seattle, in regards to WSU recruiting the Seattle Area successfully.
 
I believe I found the article on Stock Risers.com my computer skills aren’t up to par so I couldn’t get the link to work. He talks about WSU, UW and Pepperdine also mentions Florida, Virginia, Virginia Tech and says he has a scheduled virtual visit with Arizona.
Had never been to that site before it’s pretty good. I’ll be adding it to my sources
 
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