Economics is why I left. I spent years struggling to make ends meet there. To give you my example. In 2000, I took entry level GS 13 -1 Federal legal job in LA, and received a 55% pay increase over what I was making in Spokane. A step down to make 55% more!
Spokane sucks?
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Economics is why I left. I spent years struggling to make ends meet there. To give you my example. In 2000, I took entry level GS 13 -1 Federal legal job in LA, and received a 55% pay increase over what I was making in Spokane. A step down to make 55% more!
Look at the the Perry District, 14th and Grand, Manito Shopping center area, Lincoln Hts and Garland Area.
Is Spokane still as big (or even bigger) of a Cougar hotbed as when you were a kid?
I was not impressed with either. They are not bad, just expensive for the quality of meat and cook you get. I don't mind dropping a couple to three hundred in a real high end steak joint, there just isn't any in the area that I have found yet. It is just one example though. There are plenty of watering holes in Spokane and decent run of the mill stuff to do. They have a good selection of golf and trails etc.
Wolf Lodge sucks. The Spokane location always has - the real Wolf Lodge is cool just for the atmosphere but I find their steaks to be prepared too salty and don't really like it either.
Chad White's places are all really good. Adam Hegsteads are hit and miss and generally overpriced because he spends too much on decor (or rather his investor partners do). Most of the Kendal Yard restaurants stand up with foodie spots around the country. Haven't been to the Stanton kid's spot yet (Park Lodge) but friends have enjoyed. Wild Sage always delivers a great dining experience. Same with Downriver Grill. Chaps..mmmm. Clover - legit. Sad Sante' went away but mean to get down to sample the replacement restaurant.
These articles are a couple years dated - but there's great food options in Spokane. I've had business associates in from around the country and they are always impressed relative to big city offerings. The Cork District is a good afternoon drinkfest too.
ttps://www.latimes.com/travel/la-tr-d-escape-spokane-20160410-story.html
https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/washington/best-food-scene-spokane-wa/
Wolf Lodge....lol.
Unfortunately improvement is relative. And I have a feeling a lot more restaurants will be disappearing.
Ok, its not like I know everyone on the west side and Seattle, but from what I can tell, what people think of Spokane is great golf and outdoor recreation, Riverside park is pretty cool, and a romantic notion of having four seasons.
Here we go again.
Got roasted a few years ago for saying Spokompton was full of strip malls and chain restaurants by a couple of locals who had their one favorite hole in the wall.
As I haven't been there recently (driven through last year), I can't speak to if anyone has opened a decent microbrew pub or restaurant that serves something other than burgers and fries. And decent microbrew doesn't mean it is palatable or doesn't make you puke, it means the beer is good objectively - it is well balances with malt... eh, screw it. You like what you like, just don't tell me a flavorless pale ale is "good beer" because some yokel figured out how to pitch yeast into wort and convince you to pay money for it.
Yeah, but Seattle is a special kind of suck right now. REAAAAAAL special.
Maybe someone should tell our Emperor that the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor too.
First off; to each their own. I grew up in Snohomish county, went to WSU, lived in Yakima and the Tri-cities before moving to PHX. My lady her entire family is from Sprague to Spokane. I tease her that Spokane is the meth capital of the northwest or its Tacoma w/o the aroma. I feel like every time I've been there no matter how nice it is, its got a dark gray haze over it, probably just in my head. I'd consider a move back to Pullman, but Spokane has zero appeal to me.
Yakima is far and away the worst place I ever lived and I'd move to Beirut before going back there. I'm glad I spent less than a year there, the city sucks, the people sucked, it was the most negative place to live.
And the Tri-cities was pretty much a snooze fest and I spent far too much time there.
Yakima is far and away the worst place I ever lived and I'd move to Beirut before going back there. I'm glad I spent less than a year there, the city sucks, the people sucked, it was the most negative place to live.
And the Tri-cities was pretty much a snooze fest and I spent far too much time there.
The only thing that I liked about the Tri-cities was there was a hotel that had a comedy night on Thursday nights and I would go down there when I worked for the DOT on the 395 project.
Despite being north of the river and having to use Canadian currency, there are some pretty nice deals to be found around Corbin Park.
The stretch between 25th and 37th, Bernard to Perry has a plethora of those kind of homes (Manito Shopping Center). Post-war bungalows. Easy walking to Manito Taphouse, Republic Pie, Gordy's and there's a new brewpub that I've been meaning to check out but Jay Inslee told me not to the last 3 months. And the Corps of Discovery trifecta of outstanding schools - Jefferson, Sacajawea, Lewis and Clark.
I grew up in Spokane. Actually went to one of the "outstanding schools" you mention. I dunno if Sacajawea was outstanding, or not, in the late 60's? I don't have very many great memories from that place, anyway. Junior High can be a tough time in life. I went to one of the other "outstanding (South Hill) high schools" in Spokane, though Observer wouldn't call it that. LOL
I haven't lived in Spokane for many, many years. But I'm still connected and very familiar with the place. My parents lived there until their passing some years back, dad much before mom. And I have great friends who I visit, and stay with when I come over to all the home football games. Interestingly, none of them were in Spokane when I lived there.
My feelings about Spokane? I've always liked it. Not enough to ever move back. Home is where my kids and grandkids are now. And I'm happy here.
But I always used to say that Spokane was big enough to have lots of good things going on, but small enough to avoid many of the bigger city problems. I doubt that statement would hold up to real scrutiny? But it's the way I always felt.
I'm old enough to remember running out by Brown's Mtn and coming across a group of runners on the road who turned out to be the guys who founded the Bloomsday Race. I miss riding my bike out to Hangman Valley golf course, then back up Hatch Hill to home. I have some great memories of my times in Spokaloo. And some damn sad ones, too.
I kinda think most people who end up staying rooted in a place will typically defend it to the hilt, no matter what warts are actually present. And those who either aren't from there, or moved away for some negative reason, will tend to find fault with a place, no matter how many positives are present. Human nature, I suppose?
I went to Freeman and had good friends where our school district edged up the side of Brown's mountain. Nice area except for the snow drifts...those rural roads seemed to be regularly blocked in January and February. And where our district edged into Hangman Hills I also had friends. Your comments bring back good memories.
I totally buy your comments about Spokane; I felt the same. I've lived in 5 major metro areas outside WA since graduation from WSU, and I'd take Spokane in a heartbeat if all else was equal. Unfortunately, it wasn't economically equal. For most industries outside agriculture, Spokane is a small market. Depending upon what you are looking for, the opportunities are less than a larger place. I would give Spokane a good quality of life rating, outside the winter weather (I'm in SoCal now).
WSU prepared me well for my life and my career. I don't claim that other schools don't do the same, but some of the more unique college town aspects of the school and its culture fit me well personally and were definitely of benefit. USC, as an example, has a different set of benefits...they don't provide the same things that I came to value from my time in Pullman.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
The weather is great, everything I need is within 15 minutes. And the population is almost entirely two extremes: those who grew up here and still have the same friends, and those who came from somewhere else and are just here for a few years. Being neither of those, I’m not in their cliques, so it’s really easy to keep to myself.
This place is a food desert though - in the sense that if it’s not a chain, it doesn’t survive. There are a few notable exceptions, but only a few. And there have never been a decent steak to be had here.
I’m going to disagree with you here. Yaki long since passed the point where more than 50% of his posts were openly antagonistic of others, and were way too often personal attacks. Cougatron more and more often veered the same direction, plus he could never accept that the ellensburg stadium was a stupid idea.
Don’t think I saw what ultimately got either of them tossed, but I can’t say I miss either of them.
Definitely respect your opinion 95, but absolutely think this site is better with Yaki, Tron and Loyal Coug and the passion they have for the Cougs.
How about we let bygones be bygones and reinstate and encourage anyone who would like to return.
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Maybe someone will reach out and invite Yaki back.
The legendary Harvey Road showed up the other day.
There's always hope.
He asked for it. Probably shouldn't throw stones if you live in glass houses.
The Egg Bowl for 18 years was played at a large neutral site stadium in the central part of the state of Mississippi.
Ellensburg stadium suffering from the COVID economy and reportedly a disastrous meeting between Jim Walden and the overseas Asian investors.
If that is what you're looking for, the lower South Hill would be a great spot. Older, smaller homes...many of them updated, and close to downtown.
Boise is an awesome city. If I were to move to another city that’s where I’d go. I’m there every 2 or 3 months for work. Spokane you definitely have to find the right area. There are a fair amount of run down parts of Spokane and Spokane valley for sure. I expect as more industry, tech, money move into the area a lot of those will be cleaned up, repurposed, etc. I’m East of the valley right between Spokane and CDA and it’s an awesome community. For a laid back life and lower COL you could do a lot worse.
Pete...both Tron and Yaki are "around"...I don't think Loyal would ever post under a different name.
He doxed over 20 times, he got doxed once. He never believed someone would find him. And he is back. Just a little more reserved.
Ed, it'd be great if you took the initiative and personally encouraged Loyal — one Die Hard Coug to another — to triumphantly return to this message board with the same fervor he displayed before his mysterious exile.
Ol' LC might've started frothing at the mouth from time to time, but it eventually blew over and CougZone was no worse for wear.
So now we've got kindler, gentler Yaki and Tron laying low under assumed names.
What's the point of that?
If anybody wants to read the measured thoughts of eunuchs tip-toeing around moderators, he can very well drink flavorless Brand X Kool-Aid until his heart's content.
It's officially time to start anew with RoLo here.
#FreeYaki #FreeTron
#Build a 60K stadium halfway between Yakima and Ellensburg
Pete, at various points from 12 to something like 3 or 4 years ago (maybe even more recent, and maybe before that time ... that's about when I first arrived), this place was completely out of control. Posts on just about anything would turn into personal attacks. Not just personal attacks arguing about a topic that delve into some insults, good-natured or otherwise, but "personal" in the sense of just about every single thread turning into pretty bizarre attacks on people as individuals, their vocations, their families, and so on. Lots of doxxing. There were at least a couple threats to meet in person and have physical altercations, etc. All of that is pretty bad but what was most remarkable is how pervasive it was. You could have a discussion on anything -- I mean, quite literally, anything -- and it would devolve into that after no more than five posts or so. I've never seen anything like it in any other forum. There still is arguing on here but I don't think you'd really want it to be as dysfunctional as it was.
I've been here since 2002 and there wasn't a single issue when Tony ran the site.
Never had a problem with Yaki...and actually got a chuckle out of his and Banachek's squabbles where he would always call Yaki a lemming and to not follow his other lemmings off the cliff. It was quite comical and thats as bad as it got.
Even the Brink Swogger stuff stayed civil.
Its when the Paul Wulff stuff happened...and maybe someone can more accurately speak to the years the site changed hands...but that is when things got nasty. Then you had newer members come in and just piled on whoever was at the wrong side of an argument of the day.
And yes, I should have shown more restraint like Ed. I'm a bit more of a hot head than he. Work in progress.
Said another way, I apologize to the site for threatening to slap people.
Yaki got what he deserved, however.
Spokane WAS a great place to grow up and get a decent K -12 education while living and playing safe in a 4 season environment !
The city and valley became less than GREAT in the late 60's and 70's when it was invaded by the likes of Cali flight pilgrims ! The liberals brought a greatly increased appetite for drugs and life styles that polluted what was a stable and cost of living moderate place !
Given that, the city leaders never really created a lasting relationship with Pullman and WSC(U). Such a relationship should have started with a solid connection to area HS students and their athletic programs. Sadly, this was and is lacking, along with a historic continuing marketing program to sell WSC(U) to the greater Spokane area.
Does Spo suck ? NO . Is it less than what it once was ? YES .
It is a sad memory, the demise of the Spokane Daily Chronicle, leaving the area with the Review, which has become nothing more than a left of liberal RAG !
The city and valley became less than GREAT in the late 60's and 70's when it was invaded by the likes of Cali flight pilgrims ! The liberals brought a greatly increased appetite for drugs and life styles that polluted what was a stable and cost of living moderate place !
Given that, the city leaders never really created a lasting relationship with Pullman and WSC(U). Such a relationship should have started with a solid connection to area HS students and their athletic programs. Sadly, this was and is lacking, along with a historic continuing marketing program to sell WSC(U) to the greater Spokane area.
Does Spo suck ? NO . Is it less than what it once was ? YES .
It is a sad memory, the demise of the Spokane Daily Chronicle, leaving the area with the Review, which has become nothing more than a left of liberal RAG !
Pretty sure you could say the same for just about every surviving daily print newspaper. There are really only a few conglomerates left in the business, and their viewpoints are only slightly different.
