Super Bowl...who ya got?
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Rihanna.
This year's match up is lame. Not appointment television for me today.
This year's match up is lame. Not appointment television for me today.
KC 34-24. Both are good teams on both sides of the ball. But like most NFL defenses, Philly has problems with a good TE and a mobile QB. KC will be able to run the ball just enough to let the TE get open, particularly when the Philly front 7 is focused on containing the QB. I expect Philly to game plan against Kelce, but if they go too far that way it helps the KC running game. I would not be surprised to see Kelce with over 100 yards receiving today, and I expect KC to score every time they are in the red zone. Philly's only chance to stifle KC's offense is to shut down the run, and I don't think they can do that. But we'll find out today...
I'm done with the corrupt, woke NFL.
I won't be watching the game for the 3rd or 4th straight year.
The most impressive thing to me about the game is the ability to do a very complex and visually stunning halftime show with all the logistics required in 30 minutes. That is amazing.
The Super Bowl sort of encapsulates in 4 hours all the good and the bad of American culture. It's an incredible production.
Not everyone's preferred matchup, but it does pit the two best teams in the NFL (record wise & probably talent-wise) against each other. I'll say KC 24-21 in a game that could just as easily go the other way. One of my biggest hopes is that the officiating goes unnoticed today. That's a tall order.
Glad Cougar
Philly has 2 Cougs, KC only has 1. But KC’s is a part time starter and will play meaningful snaps.
Looking for a tiebreaker - KC also has a husky. Philly also has a Vandal. Gotta go with Philly.
Dream scenario: with the Eagles down 10-7 early in the 2nd, Jalen Hurts is hit and aggravates the shoulder injury. He’s unable to return. Minshew enters in relief and is spectacular, throwing for 275 yards and a couple TDs, running for another. Inside the 2-minute warning he completes the go-ahead TD pass (over Trent McDuffie) and is named the MVP in a 35-31 victory.
After the game, Philly decides to let him go as a UFA, because last time they had a backup win the SB MVP they gave him a pile of money and he sucked. They’re not making that mistake again. Plus, they’re not going to pick up the option and have a backup getting top 10 money. So Minshew shops around, and is about to sign with Green Bay to replace Aaron Rogers (who is about to be traded to seattle). Instead, he calls Pete Carroll and says ‘dude, let’s cut out the middle man. It never snows in Seattle games. Keep your draft picks, bring me there to lead the NFL in passing.’ So Carroll does. Minshew signs with Seattle for a healthy contract, but doesn’t demand top dollar because he wants the team to get a supporting cast. He says “it’s cool, don’t need 25 million a year to lose games. I’ll take 5-10, and you get me the right guys to win, and a micro bus for my off-season vacations.” And they do.
Seattle lights up, Minshew mania takes over again. They start winning immediately. They win a Super Bowl his first year.
Money rolls into the city, and Minshew leads the efforts to clean up downtown…starting by cleaning out the city council. Within a few years, Seattle is a model of how to address the homeless crisis.
In the midst of all this, GM has met MacKenzie Scott. It’s not a romantic relationship- although there are rumors - but a philanthropic teaming. When she tells him she’s looking for an ongoing commitment like Paul Allen had, but doesn’t really know much about sports, GM points her to WSU. She loves it, and establishes foundations for academic and athletic support.
WSU blossoms, luring the best researchers and faculty from around the country, building cutting edge facilities, and becoming a perennial contender with a fully funded NIL program. A combined effort between WSU energy studies and mechanical engineering solves the fusion problem, and creates a cheap, clean energy source for the world. They program it to power up in response to the command “Go Cougs,” but in a nod to equity, make it responsive to the phrase in any language.
Meanwhile, he’s still winning games, and Seattle keeps hanging banners in the rafters. By the time he decides he’s done - and he only decides once (no comebacks) - there are 9 more. He holds a lot of passing records, and nobody cares about that whiny ex-QB (Tom…something) anymore. GM is the GOAT. The name “Gardner” is in the top 5 names for babies - boy or girl. Minshew hears about this, and he’s glad it happened, but doesn’t impact him directly. He’s got plenty in the bank, and a strong NFL & philanthropic legacy. But right now, he’s contentedly off the grid, driving his latest microbus to a secluded beach in an unnamed location, with the wife & kids he managed to keep out of the public eye.
But seriously…slight edge to Philly. Even if the script says otherwise.
Looking for a tiebreaker - KC also has a husky. Philly also has a Vandal. Gotta go with Philly.
Dream scenario: with the Eagles down 10-7 early in the 2nd, Jalen Hurts is hit and aggravates the shoulder injury. He’s unable to return. Minshew enters in relief and is spectacular, throwing for 275 yards and a couple TDs, running for another. Inside the 2-minute warning he completes the go-ahead TD pass (over Trent McDuffie) and is named the MVP in a 35-31 victory.
After the game, Philly decides to let him go as a UFA, because last time they had a backup win the SB MVP they gave him a pile of money and he sucked. They’re not making that mistake again. Plus, they’re not going to pick up the option and have a backup getting top 10 money. So Minshew shops around, and is about to sign with Green Bay to replace Aaron Rogers (who is about to be traded to seattle). Instead, he calls Pete Carroll and says ‘dude, let’s cut out the middle man. It never snows in Seattle games. Keep your draft picks, bring me there to lead the NFL in passing.’ So Carroll does. Minshew signs with Seattle for a healthy contract, but doesn’t demand top dollar because he wants the team to get a supporting cast. He says “it’s cool, don’t need 25 million a year to lose games. I’ll take 5-10, and you get me the right guys to win, and a micro bus for my off-season vacations.” And they do.
Seattle lights up, Minshew mania takes over again. They start winning immediately. They win a Super Bowl his first year.
Money rolls into the city, and Minshew leads the efforts to clean up downtown…starting by cleaning out the city council. Within a few years, Seattle is a model of how to address the homeless crisis.
In the midst of all this, GM has met MacKenzie Scott. It’s not a romantic relationship- although there are rumors - but a philanthropic teaming. When she tells him she’s looking for an ongoing commitment like Paul Allen had, but doesn’t really know much about sports, GM points her to WSU. She loves it, and establishes foundations for academic and athletic support.
WSU blossoms, luring the best researchers and faculty from around the country, building cutting edge facilities, and becoming a perennial contender with a fully funded NIL program. A combined effort between WSU energy studies and mechanical engineering solves the fusion problem, and creates a cheap, clean energy source for the world. They program it to power up in response to the command “Go Cougs,” but in a nod to equity, make it responsive to the phrase in any language.
Meanwhile, he’s still winning games, and Seattle keeps hanging banners in the rafters. By the time he decides he’s done - and he only decides once (no comebacks) - there are 9 more. He holds a lot of passing records, and nobody cares about that whiny ex-QB (Tom…something) anymore. GM is the GOAT. The name “Gardner” is in the top 5 names for babies - boy or girl. Minshew hears about this, and he’s glad it happened, but doesn’t impact him directly. He’s got plenty in the bank, and a strong NFL & philanthropic legacy. But right now, he’s contentedly off the grid, driving his latest microbus to a secluded beach in an unnamed location, with the wife & kids he managed to keep out of the public eye.
But seriously…slight edge to Philly. Even if the script says otherwise.
I’ll have what you’re drinking/smoking please.
Why do I have to be on something to be able to dream utopian dreams?
It actually started as the hope GM could parlay it into a decent contract and maybe a starting gig. It just kept flowing from there.
I am skiing today which is much better then watching a dud of a football game.
that was a great game. Too bad it came down to a penalty at the end. I don't envy the ref in that position...but it was definitely a hold and it affected the play.
The officiating was a huge contrast to the AFC and NFC championship games. They didnt even try to hide the bias in those games.
The officiating was a huge contrast to the AFC and NFC championship games. They didnt even try to hide the bias in those games.
Disagree. I don’t think that’s a flag you throw in the Super Bowl. Sure, by the letter it was a penalty…but it didn’t change the play, and it led to a really lame ending to what had been a pretty good game.
I don't accept the notion that you ignore a penalty just because it comes at a crucial part of the game. Heard the same thing two weeks ago when Mahomes was clearly hit out of bounds. That hold kept Juju from getting to the endzone where the pass ended up, it has to be called. I really have to give credit to the officiating. I was worried about it and said so earlier in the thread.....(I wanted the officiating to go unnoticed, and for the most part, they were judicious with the flags for both teams). To those who said it was a lame matchup to begin with....you missed a close game that came down to the final seconds between the two best teams in the NFL. What matchup would've been better?
Glad Cougar
Well…you missed 58 minutes of a good game that ended when a ref threw an unnecessary flag that allowed KC to run out the clock and give a pretty good game a lame finish.
I don't either, it was a hold and had to be called. if it had happened in the first half noone would have cared. just because it was at the end it should be allowed?
I actually got the spread right......(which rarely happens)......but I predicted 24-21 Chiefs. A lot more offense than I expected.
Glad Cougar
I went with the team that has a rat as its mascot - The Kansas City Chiefs. Plus I like the Chiefs uniforms better, what the hell. The Eagles offensive line was the most powerful NFL line I have seen since the Washington Redskins in the 70's - John Riggins (RB) called them his Hogs. I did not think it possible for an NFL defensive line to be flat out over powered the way the Chiefs were, especially evident on the QB sneaks. In the end, Mahomes, Kelce, and Pacheco are hyper competitive dudes. This morning I saw where the flagged DB of the Eagles said that it was indeed a hold, and he had hopped the refs would not call it. The Chiefs simply ran over the Eagles in the second half. Not one blitz on Mahomes, go figure that out. Also, that fumble recovery and run for a touchdown by the Chiefs that was called back...that easily could have been ruled a reception and a TD for KC. Hell of a good football game.
The hoggs were in the 80's...not the 70's
And while I generally agree the hogs were the best offensive line ever, and argument could be made for the 94 Cowboys
Wasn't a hold. Smith stopped bc he stopped himself to change directions 180 degrees, not from an attempted jersey grab that happened for a split second.
Smith wasn't under the ball because Maholmes threw the exact same pattern to the other kid and the timing wasn't the same, probably bc Smith ran the in part too deep.
I'm going to address your point about the reversal on the fumble. Remember recently we had a thread about rules we would like changed in football? Here is one that I don't like. This game showed that the NFL has two different standards for what is a catch. On the reversal the guy clearly had possession and turned to head upfield, but they ruled that turn didn't constitute making a "football play". Then on the catch on the sideleine the receiver has a toe down for a microsecond as the ball hits his hands and he then goes out of bounds, and it is ruled a catch. He did not make any kind of a "football play", he just continued out of bounds. Not consistent. If you are going to call the sideline play good, then you should also call the other play a catch and fumble. I think KC got shafted on that one.
Riggins must have been in his thirties if the Hogs were in the 80's, because he was at KU during the early 70's. He was getting up there for a running back.
That is correct. I only know all of this because my dad was a diehard fan and I had to watch every Sunday and shut my yap every time the game was on.
Riggins joined them in the late 70's if I'm not mistaken after playing for the jets. The Redskins were pretty sorry up during that time(early 70's being the exception)
They got really good in 82 and hand a great run for a decade.
Winning 3 Superbowls with 3 different qb's(2 of which nobody wanted) is a heck of an accomplishment...and a great testament to that OLine.
As an aside, now you have me curious as to how old Riggins was in that 83 Superbowl when he broke off that run in 4th and 1 to win the game
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Wiki says he was born in August 1949, so that would make him 34 if I counted correctly. Ancient for a running back.
Please remove all references to Redskins in this thread and change to Commanders.
Bunch of racists.
Chiefs aren't racist though.
Don't even get me started on the OGs of oppression - the Vikings. Doesn't get any whiter than Vikings.
Bunch of racists.
Chiefs aren't racist though.
Don't even get me started on the OGs of oppression - the Vikings. Doesn't get any whiter than Vikings.
How do you explain DB James Bradberry's admission after the game that it was a hold and he was hoping it wouldn't get called?
Glad Cougar
That grabbing happens all the time and doesnt get called, whether intentionally or not.
At full speed, I thought it was a fumble. On the replay, I kind of figured they'd call it incomplete because he hadn't tucked the ball to advance. Personally, I thought he had 100% control, and in another half second he'd have it tucked and would be on the run. Basically, the defender got punished for making a good play. IMO, it should have been ruled a fumble...but the current rule with the "football play" standard is too subjective.
On the sideline catch, I was 50/50. I wasn't 100% convinced he had full control before he touched OB. That one I probably would have had to let the call on the field stand because there wasn't indisputable video evidence.
Another thing I'd like to see - when the venue has a surface that becomes a factor in the game due to design and/or maintenance, not weather - they get eliminated from consideration for hosting another game for a decade. The grass was terrible. It didn't give either team a particular advantage, but it impacted the game and easily could have resulted in injuries. Having seen the field conditions now at the end of the season, and it was apparently like that all season, the NFL should mandate that the surface be changed and the experiment with this new grass breed be scrapped before any more games are allowed on the field. You know, for player safety...because the NFL is so interested in that.
