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There will be a nice pickup in the secondary coming soon

Hey, without question the situation was grotesque. I'm not defending the actions of anyone involved, but after reading through the case details, it doesn't appear that Hector committed any crimes. A girl consented to getting it on with a group of guys, and Hector was there, but didn't participate. He also wasn't involved in the video taping.

Stanford backed away because they didn't need the risk, particularly after what their program has already been through with this type of thing. Other schools backed off too.

Again, I'm not defending the kid, and I'm certainly not condoning what took place. It's beyond my scope of comprehension, frankly; however this type of thing is not uncommon anymore, unfortunately. If a woman consents and a man or a group of men participate, do they deserve to have their futures wiped out? In this case, Hector didn't participate, and that was confirmed after a lengthy police investigation. It's a tough call.
 
Tracy Ford is a fraud and a sleaze. It really bothers me to see Rolo listening to the Seattle radio mouth breather brigade and cozying up to him.
 
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Stanford takes no chances, something like this gets magnified at Stanford, they are proud of their academic standing, and people simply don't break rules at Stanford. There was an article about this in Seattle Times back in April, overall it didn't sound good, while not directly involved he was there. Hopefully he has learned from his mistakes and makes himself a better person. We all may have done things we regret at 17 or 18 years old, the key is learning from those mistakes. The fact he is showing up as a walk on, shows some humility on his part, I am sure he will get a scholarship sooner or later, but it sounds like he may need to prove himself, which is a key to moving on in life.

So welcome to the team Ayden, happy to have you, and keep getting better at life as well as football.
 
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It's also important to consider Hector's body of work before the incident. He was both an academic and athletic standout, earning a scholarship to Stanford, Cal, etc. No charges were filed, the alleged video that was created was never obtained.

You can certainly make a strong case that this kid, and all of the kids involved, made a horrible decision to fool around as a group and it got totally out of control. Is that enough to flush his career down the toilet? Depends on your perspective, I guess. I can assure you that these types of group fornications are happening all the time on college campuses, whether we want to acknowledge it or not.
 
and my last comment on this. You can be certain that in today's climate, particularly here in the liberal Northwest, that a THOROUGH investigation took place. It lasted 8 months, and no charges were filed. That confirms (to me, anyway) that the activity was consensual, and the only thing these kids were guilty of is having poor personal conduct judgement.
 
Reason he is a walk on. If he has good behavior and shows he is a good kid then maybe he gets that schollie later on. Looks like Cougs just picked up CJ Moore JC WR former OK ST 4 st
 
Tracy Ford is a fraud and a sleaze. It really bothers me to see Rolo listening to the Seattle radio mouth breather brigade and cozying up to him.
Allegedly Furness kid was a participant.

Which shifts the whole "WSU need more local recruits" line back into Jim Walden territory.
 
Allegedly Furness kid was a participant.

Which shifts the whole "WSU need more local recruits" line back into Jim Walden territory.

Ah it all makes sense now - Leach didn't want to recruit his kid so he was mad about it.
 
and my last comment on this. You can be certain that in today's climate, particularly here in the liberal Northwest, that a THOROUGH investigation took place. It lasted 8 months, and no charges were filed. That confirms (to me, anyway) that the activity was consensual, and the only thing these kids were guilty of is having poor personal conduct judgement.
In the liberal PNW, the Seattle Times sat on the Ed Murray story for 4 years.
 
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and my last comment on this. You can be certain that in today's climate, particularly here in the liberal Northwest, that a THOROUGH investigation took place. It lasted 8 months, and no charges were filed. That confirms (to me, anyway) that the activity was consensual, and the only thing these kids were guilty of is having poor personal conduct judgement.

I assume that he's on some kind of zero tolerance plan. As in late to a team meeting, miss a class, showing a lowly 99 percent effort in practice, cover his mouth with his hand when he sneezes instead of sneezing into his elbow and he's cut. Let alone any kind of criminal behavior or bad attitude.
 
Allegedly Furness kid was a participant.

Which shifts the whole "WSU need more local recruits" line back into Jim Walden territory.

Can you expand on Furness's kid? A participant in what?
 
I assume that he's on some kind of zero tolerance plan. As in late to a team meeting, miss a class, showing a lowly 99 percent effort in practice, cover his mouth with his hand when he sneezes instead of sneezing into his elbow and he's cut. Let alone any kind of criminal behavior or bad attitude.

Perhaps, but apart from the optics of the story, he wasn't charged with, nor did he commit any crimes. Bad judgement, of course, but he had the grades to earn a Stanford scholarship.
 
Perhaps, but apart from the optics of the story, he wasn't charged with, nor did he commit any crimes. Bad judgement, of course, but he had the grades to earn a Stanford scholarship.
I didnt get into the weeds of the story, but what was the investigation about? It was consensual, correct? What isnt being said? Last i checked being sexually permiscuous wasnt a crime.
 
Can you expand on Furness's kid? A participant in what?
Tracy Ford had an illicit combine camp for 112 kids at a middle school in Tacoma and the Seattle Times (Geoff Baker) wrote about it.
From twitter, Furness kid was at it -
 
Allegedly Furness kid was a participant.

Which shifts the whole "WSU need more local recruits" line back into Jim Walden territory.

The "Leach needs to recruit Seattle more" crap was always pushed by people with an obvious agenda. No one had the Cougs best interest at heart when promoting it. Talent wise, I'm happy to get Ayden Hector. Obviously we only got him due to off the field stuff.
 
Oh I believe that Chugs was, is spot on that WSU got a DB recruit.

I just dont think that recruit is a 4,5 star, BIG TIME recruit that chose WSU over Alabama.

And I believe if the DB recruit is, was a 4.5, 5 star recruit that chose WSU over Alabama, that it's a 4.5, 5 star recruit that signed with Alabama, ended up on Alabama's Scout team, and Transfered to WSU after 6 to 18 months on Alabama's Scout Team to get more playing time at WSU, and that either way, he the DB recruit, altho might technically have been a technical 4.5,5 star recruit, isnt a BIG TIME recruit, or shouldnt be considered a BIG Time recruit

BIG TIME RECRUITS DONT CHOOSE WSU OVER ALABAMA.

The EXCEPTION would be if John Bledsoe had been a 5 star, Big Time Recruit, he probably would have chosen WSU over Alabama, because of his connection to WSU.

So yes Chug is probably right in some ways about the DB recruit, except about the DB recruit, supposedly being a BIG TIME recruit

The DB recruit is probably NOT a BIG TIME DB recruit, and didnt choose WSU OVER Alabama.

When banker was at osu did he ever have a bad secondary . I remember they were one of the better secondaries year in and out . He was the mike leach(qb guru) of DB play
 
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I wonder if this is simply a case where they have to classify him as a walk-on now, but he’ll become a scholarship player next semester.
 
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Some obviousness:

- of course he will get a scholie if he behaves himself. His grades were good enough to get into Stanford, and he has undoubtably picked up some life lessons. He will not redshirt..he will play as a freshman and we will have him for a career. He will pick up a scholie next season.
- Not sure he is a top 5 recruit in program history, etown, but he is pretty darned good. A great pickup, and he may end up our best walk-on in program history. That is a nice list, but it is possible.
- He is a nice fit for the new D. It will be interesting to see which position he is playing his second year, after a year of conditioning.
- This kid will have a chip on his shoulder for every Stanford and UW game.
 
Some obviousness:

- of course he will get a scholie if he behaves himself. His grades were good enough to get into Stanford, and he has undoubtably picked up some life lessons. He will not redshirt..he will play as a freshman and we will have him for a career. He will pick up a scholie next season.
- Not sure he is a top 5 recruit in program history, etown, but he is pretty darned good. A great pickup, and he may end up our best walk-on in program history. That is a nice list, but it is possible.
- He is a nice fit for the new D. It will be interesting to see which position he is playing his second year, after a year of conditioning.
- This kid will have a chip on his shoulder for every Stanford and UW game.

He ranks in the top 5 in the 20 years 247 has tracked these things.
 
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