HC at Illinois, probably going to be run. Although the "abuse" part is most salacious, the part where the kid says they gave him surgery he didn't consent to will probably be the killer.
Not even moderately. But the one where the head trainer wasn't licensed, or where the kid says they performed surgery he didn't consent to- those are actual issues, not "mean coach is tough" issues.let me get this straight... you're outraged because a problem player was having difficulty finding his way with a new coaching staff he didn't sign up for?
So you see why that would be an issue.If surgery was performed on an unwilling patient, without patient authorization, where I the arrest report?
Only when its (not) happening here, right? Could be fake. More guys are lining up, though, so the coach better hope so- I don't think the Illini kid is sending the AD an "I didn't mean it" text.Kid is going to be rich beyond his wildest dreams and people are going to jail... if only this were true.
No. I don't see how this is an Issue... at all. I do however see how this is a fake politically charged diversion, do you?
Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about.nice try. no fish. Time to change your worm.
Not even moderately. But the one where the head trainer wasn't licensed, or where the kid says they performed surgery he didn't consent to- those are actual issues, not "mean coach is tough" issues.
Where do you get outrage? Man...
Reading the thing plays like he was sold one bill of goods by the team doctor and coach, and it wound up being mostly the side effects and misery part that was the actual outcome. Unfortunate, but not a crime by any stretch. I'd imagine Illinois doesn't want that as the public face of their athletic treatment, either. That said, now you have people at Illinois and Toledo piling on.It's odd that the surgeon would perform the surgery without a consent from the patient.
Sadly, I don't find anything done by the media to obfuscate certain negative information odd- it's become a bit expected. I don't think this kid specifically was even mildly concerned about Chicago's bond status, though.If surgery was performed on an unwilling patient, without patient authorization, where is the arrest report?
The article says his parents were upset over playing time.
Do you find it odd that this 'story' makes front page news the very Same day Chicago gets downgraded to Junk status triggering a $2 Billion cash payment on their debt, they do not have... and not a single word is mentioned about that in the same newspaper?
That "different slant" is also pretty damming.You should learn to read.
Btw here Is a different slant http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...ini-player-goes-thermonuclear-on-tim-beckman/
That "different slant" is also pretty damming.
Probably should have just let the kid come to the banquet.
When the Illinois kid sends in his "I made it up" text, or they find Leach's unlicensed training staff, they'll be similar.... just like Leach did with Marquess Wilson, right?
You know, the very first thing, just above the link for this forum, it says to keep it PG-13, no flaming… AND bring something to the table… You suck at that, Fishie.... just like Leach did with Marquess Wilson, right?
Nice selective outrage, as alwaysYou know, the very first thing, just above the link for this forum, it says to keep it PG-13, no flaming… AND bring something to the table… You suck at that, Fishie.
All he does is flame 95....why be disappointed?You know, the very first thing, just above the link for this forum, it says to keep it PG-13, no flaming… AND bring something to the table… You suck at that, Fishie.
If surgery was performed on an unwilling patient, without patient authorization, where is the arrest report?
The article says his parents were upset over playing time.
Do you find it odd that this 'story' makes front page news the very Same day Chicago gets downgraded to Junk status triggering a $2 Billion cash payment on their debt, they do not have... and not a single word is mentioned about that in the same newspaper?
Interesting… So this I can get into. Since you've already researched apparently, have any links?This story is an attack on football in Chicago, home of the NLRB. It's being pushed by the players union. It's easy to research If one is to dig a little deeper.
You would think the Chicago Tribune might notice their City is on a collision course with bankruptcy... unless they magically find $2 billion they don't have.
I hope Beckman's plan isn't to tell everyone that he's being put up by a government scam with the media to hide Chicago's financial woes.This story is an attack on football in Chicago, home of the NLRB. It's being pushed by the players union. It's easy to research If one is to dig a little deeper.
You would think the Chicago Tribune might notice their City is on a collision course with bankruptcy... unless they magically find $2 billion they don't have.
Thanks for the football talk fro.All he does is flame 95....why be disappointed?
No I put his name into a box here http://www.bing.com/ and the Chicago Tribune story popped up along with the link I posted and a few others. The Tribune article mentioned the union involvement.Interesting… So this I can get into. Since you've already researched apparently, have any links?
That and the part where this guy gets fired in a week, but we'll see, I guess.Thanks for the football talk fro.
The only thing different between the WSU situation and the Illinois situation is that the disgruntled playerwasn't recruited by Wulff this time.
And this is a union push… you know… minor differences.That and the part where this guy gets fired in a week, but we'll see, I guess.
OK... I was off by three months.That and the part where this guy gets fired in a week, but we'll see, I guess.
Correct. And, according to the investigation, in was neither a) like Leach-Wilson or b) a ploy to draw attention away from Chicago's economic struggles, as some insisted.Beckman was just fired today.
So you're saying Chinook was off base and defending Beckman for no reason? Imagine that.Correct. And, according to the investigation, in was neither a) like Leach-Wilson or b) a ploy to draw attention away from Chicago's economic struggles, as some insisted.
If surgery was performed on an unwilling patient, without patient authorization, where is the arrest report?
The article says his parents were upset over playing time.
Do you find it odd that this 'story' makes front page news the very Same day Chicago gets downgraded to Junk status triggering a $2 Billion cash payment on their debt, they do not have... and not a single word is mentioned about that in the same newspaper?
Correct. And, according to the investigation, in was neither a) like Leach-Wilson or b) a ploy to draw attention away from Chicago's economic struggles, as some insisted.