IMO he deserves to be let go if we end up in non P5. To lack the foresight to see this coming down the barrel, coming from KSU of all places where they nearly lost themselves a few years back, and allow this program to get banished is grounds for firing. No proactive work, just followed the other schools until it became clear we have no lifeline, and the others do. Combine that with declining academic performance of the school… I’d like to see him resign or be fired. I have total faith Elson Floyd would have kept this from taking place and would be out there dealing his ass off to have us in other conferences, even at fractional shares.
Will Schultz survive this?
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While I don't disagree with the sentiment, what else could he have done? We are a financial bottom dweller and our tv viewship is middling. Its not like WSU brings a whole lot to the table that he could leverage to improve our situation. Financially we've always been a hanger on in the conference.
I think just about any P5 conference could have prevented their issues had they been proactive enough. For some reason he did not see this coming. Should have been sounding alarm years ago against leadership, and pressing current leadership to figure something else much earlier. By all accounts he’s consider the leader, or one of them of the executive group. They screwed just about every movement up. Would B12 have taken us at 2/3 share 1-2 years ago? Lots of people saw this coming that far back.
And, there is more to the job than athletics, although that's what we care about on this board.
The root of this is USC and UCLA bailing. As far as I've been able to tell that was a shock to damn near everyone.
Would you have been supportive of WSU going hat in hand to the Big XII 1-2 years ago? I would not have.
What else could Schultz have done?
1. He could have put publicly vocal pressure, told George to Add SDSU, do the alliance with ACC, then get media deal.
2. He could have put public pressure on George to take a 26,27,28,29 mil per team media deal, and publically pressured the other PAC presidents to do those things.
3. Pressured George into putting him in Charge sooner, instead of waiting until it was too late to do much of anything.
4. Once he was in charge, he could of put public pressure, bullied, etc, to get his way, and to get the job done.
5. He could have had more foresight, seen what was coming, proactively prepared for it, met secretively with Yormack, Big 12 presidents, and Sell them on why accept WSU into Big 12, etc.
6. Instead Schultz was like Baghdad Bob, was in denial, foolishly believed what he was told, did NOT look into rumors, just deferred to everyone else, just seemed to sit on his hands and either seem to do almost nothing, an or when he did do something, it was always the wrong thing(not adding SDSU, not doing alliance with ACC, not doing deal AFTER SDSU added, ACC alliance done, not either pressuring George, other presidents, and not either firing George, or pressuring to have George fired, etc.
7. Have or pressured George, other presidents to be FIRED.
Basically Schultz was exactly like how that guest poster said that Schultz was like in Big 12 where Schultz's inaction, stupidity almost got KSU screwed.
There's A LOT that Schultz could, should have done, but didn't do. And if Schultz had done at least some of that, and if this was still happening despite that, then maybe don't hold Schultz accountable, don't blame, don't fire, etc.
But since Schultz did the things he shouldn't have done, and didn't do the things he should have done, etc, then absolutely Schultz should be blamed, held accountable, fired, etc.
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I had a manager not long ago that literally did nothing. Not only that, he was rarely there. Probably the equivalent of one day a week. He was also in charge of another neighboring location, but according to their personnel, was never there either. No one I worked with felt managed or even cared about in the least. Literally the worst manager me, or any of us, have ever worked for. I ended up leaving several months ago. The “manager” has been promoted twice since then. Schultz will be just fine. It’s a crazy world.
I don't think that anyone can say that Schulz has done a good job, but realistically, UCLA and USC m'fed the rest of the conference by vetoing prior agreements and expansion ideas and then bailing when they got the chance. I'm not sure that any of the Pac-12 leaders could have changed what happened there.
Now, the pathetic charade that's gone on for the past 12 months since the B1G announcement? That sh!t is embarrassing for everyone. Not sure that you can fire Schulz over it because again, he's just one vote in a group of 10 representing the most remote of all of the campuses. This past year doesn't make him look good though.
Now, the pathetic charade that's gone on for the past 12 months since the B1G announcement? That sh!t is embarrassing for everyone. Not sure that you can fire Schulz over it because again, he's just one vote in a group of 10 representing the most remote of all of the campuses. This past year doesn't make him look good though.
God I can relate to this. Worst leaders I’ve had have been the most oft promoted. You don’t have to do dick as a manager as long as you know how to manage up.
Schulz is, as the kids would say, "mid." Yeah, he sort of cares about, and understands, athletics ... more than UW's president, for example. It would have been challenging for him to do much more than he has done in the situation WSU has been in for the past year. That said, that's not enough for WSU, especially at this critical time, when it comes to athletics. Athletics also is going to impact everything else. I hope he pulls a rabbit out of his hat somehow and proves me wrong. We need it.
Agree with that but Sgt Schultz is pretty much a spineless empty suit. Not the smart assertive guy this situation calls for.
Him and Chun both need to go. Schultz and Crow were two of Larry Scott's biggest backers. All the President's that let Scott stay in power after not securing a deal w directv shoulder much of the blame. USC and UCLA left largely because Scott and the Presidents put more emphasis on China than viewership in the USA. The Pac 12 network has to be one of the biggest blunders in TV history. So freaking rinky dink. How any of the Presidents left Larry in charge so long w that channel as the representative of our conference is beyond me. Then after hiring a tennis guy in Larry Scott they hire a Vegas casino guy as commisioner. If they would have hired tv guy or hired a commisioner from one of the other conferences we'd be fine. Schultz needs to be held accountable. Chun too.
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