Spokesman beat writer stated there is belief at Sacajawea his appeal should go through.
Might add an element or two
Might add an element or two
Wow hope in Priester appeal
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If we could get him on the field that would be a gigantic boost. Wow can you imagine Him, marks, williams, and cracraft? on the field at the same time? That's the best WR group in the country. I can't think of anyone that would have better. Maybe baylor or something. They seem to have a lot of guys, but no one in the Pac can throw 4 guys like that on the field at the same time.
UW has like Ross and Mickens. Cal has Lawler and a couple other maybe, but nobody can roll out 4 serious threats like that. Oh man I hope we put him out there.
What would be great is having Baker, Thompson, Lewis, Lienthal, Green / Dimry / Martin...AHHH we are so loaded at WR. this is awesome.
oh yeah that's right. That's a big blow for them. Well I'm just glad that we have so many talented guys I'm really excited. And think about how young Falk and Bender are. Plus the big Oline depth we have...AND all those running backs...
Offensively we are pretty much built we just need a D and special to go with it.
Pump the brakes. Leach said he expected it to be granted, but the reason was because the NCAA had granted seven this year and when asked why it was obvious Priester should be allowed to play Leach said to ask compliance.
Whoa....slow down there a bit. Best in the country? How about we start with top half of the conference?
Show me anyone in the country that has better stats than Cracraft, Williams, Marks. combined.
Cracraft 1300 yards 11tds Biletnikoff Watchlist
Williams 1500 yards 19tds
Marks 1300 yards 9tds
Now add in Priester whom some say is the best receiver on the team
Show me any school that has that kind of production from 4 guys. A lot of teams have 1-2 guys that have produced for them, but nobody that I know of has 4.
Anyone who has seen him practice knows he's a difference maker. And I wouldn't be surprised to see Tavares Martin get reps this season, just from Leach's comments alone.
Oregon absolutely has a better and deeper receiving corp than WSU does. USC too, probably.
That said, WSU is looking very good in that unit.
Show me the production for those players. If they are so good where is their production?
There is more to being a receiver than catching a ton of balls in a pass heavy offense.
Sure, but what matters is what you do on the field. They can have Calvin Johnson on the sideline, but if he isn't doing anything well then...he isn't doing anything...
If the receivers are good and they want to be on the field and actually do something they'll come to WSU. If they want to stand on the sidelines and maybe catch a ball or two they can go somewhere else.
Even the less enlightened folks here know this much. So, as a Cougar fan, what is your motive to take an upbeat thread about an outstanding prospect who had 25 or more offers from major D1 programs to a "Oh, but the Ducks and Trojans are better!" turn? Seriously, what is up with that? Are you sooooo worried people might actually feel good about the program? Get a frickin' life.
If you actually had the cognitive ability to follow the thread, you would understand that I was not the one making hyperbolic statements about WSU having the best receivers in the country, nor was I was the first one to dispute said hyperbolic claim.
Your years on this forum and on ginafarm have proven though, that you are don't.
Good day.
Speaking of cognitive ability, you, perhaps, should start with simply making sense. Please do not devalue your WSU degree in public.
Yeah, one minor typo on a message board, my bad. My post makes perfect sense to anyone who actually was able to earn the degree you wish you had.
Again, read the thread first to follow along, before trying so hard to look like a message board bad ass.
I don' t know that they are the best in the country, but the potential is certainly there to be the most productive. Without the balls going to Mayle and Myers, the numbers should all bump up the season averages, and it looks like it will be more balanced to all WR spots than we have seen so far in the WSU version of the air raid. I would bet the over on 5000 yards for sure, and there is not really more than a handful of teams that will put that up in a year.
But since you asked, here is what Oregon put out last year (returning players only)
Pretty good stats.... but....
# of WSU receivers in the top 100 in yds/game in 2014
#2 Mayle, #21 Cracraft, and #29 Meyers
Marshall... he was #70
They have a good game occasionally but they aren't consistent
Receivers WSU > Oregon.
TDs? 4 of them Meyers, Williams, Mayle, Cracraft all higher up in TDs then #81 Marshall who had 6
WSU > Oregon
Not only did our receivers get more yards, but they put more points on the board than Oregon receivers.
Then maybe if they wanted to be a part of the best WRs in the country they should have come to WSU. It was their choice to give up the production, but hey not everyone can be the best.
Lets look at it this way… When we get our Defense to slow down some of these other Offenses, we are going to be a potent, potent machine.
Only if you win the national title...which is what people remember. For most of these kids the goal is the NFL. Or at least the really good ones.
How many Oregon receivers are in the NFL?....3. Wow all those titles...and Nike cash and just 3 receivers in the NFL? We hae 3 as well and are about to put in more. It's okay for Oregon though. Not every team can give WRs the best chance to get in the NFL.
Now wait a minute...Someone said that we'll "have the best WR group in the Nation."
I'll feel great about our program if we have a top-tier Pac-12 group, but best in the Nation? That's even more outrageous than the hyperbole Brand X spews out this time of the year.
Not going to touch the "best in the country" (or in the conference) angle here, but I will say it could be very, very exciting to have Priester this year based on everything we've heard about his performance since he's arrived.
I hope Leach is right ... you never know with him whether he believes he's saying something that's truly accurate / uncontroversial or whether he's trying to be persuasive (i.e., to make a point).
I hope Leach is right ... you never know with him whether he believes he's saying something that's truly accurate / uncontroversial or whether he's trying to be persuasive (i.e., to make a point).
Who is better? Maybe baylor? Maybe? I don't know Let's see. What are our requirements? Okay TDs, Yds / game most teams with top 30 placements.
Yds/game
Wash State 3
ECU 2
TDs
Washington State - 3
WVU - 2
Ohio State - 2
So we Lead in most receivers in the top 30 in yds/game and most receivers in the top 30 in tds....
Looks like the best in the Nation to me?
CAN'T YOU FRIEL THE EXCITEMENT THO?!??!
But for real, our WR's are p good. Stupid to say we have "the best in the country". They need to prove they're the best in the league first. Arizona already firmly regarded as that.
And WR isn't exactly the hallmark position of the Oregon offense.
And edit to add- I'm surprised that Oregon pulls the caliber of WR recruits that they do. And when you look at the guys they pull, I'd say their WR corps generally underachieves.
It sounds like the key to the appeal is that he is doing Summer School and that would help his "residency" portion. As per Jacob Thorpe, via his twitter feed:
"After talking to compliance staff at a few schools, it sounds like summer semester is considered "part time" and would not help Priester."
"After talking to compliance staff at a few schools, it sounds like summer semester is considered "part time" and would not help Priester."
Your definition of "better" is different than mine. Yards, TD's, etc. are inflated in our system, obviously; just like they're reduced at programs like LSU, Ohio State, Texas, USC, etc.
Yaki brought up a good point about not pissing on the fire of optimism, but all things being equal, there are at least 10 programs that I'd trade WR groups with.
There are actually 3 sessions of summer school the early session that starts the first part of May, the 8 week session that runs June and July, and the 6 week session from the middle of June through July. What if he took classes in all 3 sections, I'd like to think that would add up to a semester of credits. The rule is 2 semesters or 3 quarters of class credit work, to be eligible, and the short summer sessions don't count. Well if you got in a semester of credits for a lot of summer school work, like 2 or 3 sessions, this is where it becomes a gray area. The NCAA rule might be old, as summer school used to be a short session, you could pick up a few credits, but a semester of credits was close to impossible, there are more options now it is possible. So maybe he has 2 semesters of credits, and that's the argument. Thorpe blows it off as summer school doesn't count, but I have to believe it's not that simple and there is more to the story. A current student might have a better handle on the number of sessions and credits you could accumulate during the summer, as it's been a while since I was in school
Not holding my breath as I don't think WSU has won an appeal to the NCAA in over 100 years, but there is always a first time.
Not holding my breath as I don't think WSU has won an appeal to the NCAA in over 100 years, but there is always a first time.
If it happens, great. If it doesn't, why put your own program down, especially since not one game in 2015 has been played?
I'm not putting them down. Just saying that there are a few programs I'd trade WR rosters with sight unseen. Kind of like there are some women I'd trade my.....never mind, you get the point.
I'm not putting them down. Just saying that there are a few programs I'd trade WR rosters with sight unseen. Kind of like there are some women I'd trade my.....never mind, you get the point.
But some (not you) can still blame 3-9 on our WR corps ...
I'm not putting them down. Just saying that there are a few programs I'd trade WR rosters with sight unseen. Kind of like there are some women I'd trade my.....never mind, you get the point.
But that has nothing to do with results. That has to do with perception.
Look if last year we went undefeated and won the title.
Same stats would you say we have the best?
Statistically we are the best, but we aren't the best because people don't perceive them as the best because the perception is WSU is bad, but if you look at how well they are performing nationally they are the best.
And as to about the offense etc. If people want to claim their WR are better they should give them the ball more. They don't the crown belongs to us.
For the 2nd year in a row we've had a biletnikoff watchlist receiver and they aren't the same guy. Next year will we have one? Probably. So whether you guys want to accept it or not we have good receivers. statistically the best in the nation.
