2 more spots

[etowncoug]

We have three transfer portal players and a handful of offers out to recruits. The longer this drags out, the more I think we see two of the portal kids return. My question is who would you like to see? Lots of combos, but I'd be content with any combo of the three rounding out the class.

I'm really surprised Cannon hasn't been picked up, would love to see him come back.

I see the remaining high schoolers as longshots likely to transfer after the season anyway, and the most appealing transfers have already found homes. Not the end of the world to have a couple of players who have played P12 hoops.

 

[SaveFerris]

Would love to see Cannon come back. After that the most likely appears to be Ali although we are pretty thin upfront so Wade would make sense.

Would love to get Post. They feel on a G-Tech brandx site that they have a good shot of getting him. He is apparently returning to Germany with his family and will make a decision after he returns. Haven't seen any reports on his visit to WSU or Miss. State.

 

[mikalalas]

1. Post, Cannon

2. Post, Nigel John

3. Post, Ali

4. Post, Kemp.

5. Kemp, Cannon

6. Kemp, Nigel John

7. Kemp, Ali

8. Ali, Cannon

9. Ali, Nigel John

10. Post

11. Cannon

12. Nigel John

13. Ali

14. Kemp

15. None, bank both scholarships for next year.

That's my ranking of combinations

 

[7ICoug]

Would love to see Cannon come back. After that the most likely appears to be Ali although we are pretty thin upfront so Wade would make sense.

Would love to get Post. They feel on a G-Tech brandx site that they have a good shot of getting him. He is apparently returning to Germany with his family and will make a decision after he returns. Haven't seen any reports on his visit to WSU or Miss. State.

Not sure that any that are in the transfer portal will return. Ali it appears that they will allow back as he is still on the roster. Cannon I have it is gone.

Post had a good visit to WSU and I think we have the best shot at him as we are thinking to him as a wing and not a post player. This is even more important with the change in the 3-point line which is coming.

He can shoot the rock. Georgia Tech is pretty much desparate. Not sure he fits there as well as in Pullman.

 

[SaveFerris]

Not sure that any that are in the transfer portal will return. Ali it appears that they will allow back as he is still on the roster. Cannon I have it is gone.

Post had a good visit to WSU and I think we have the best shot at him as we are thinking to him as a wing and not a post player. This is even more important with the change in the 3-point line which is coming.

He can shoot the rock. Georgia Tech is pretty much desparate. Not sure he fits there as well as in Pullman.

That's awesome and glad to hear he had a good trip. I'm wondering whether he can guard on the wing but he obviously would have good length. Really liked his potential from 3.

 

[mikalalas]

Not sure that any that are in the transfer portal will return. Ali it appears that they will allow back as he is still on the roster. Cannon I have it is gone.

Post had a good visit to WSU and I think we have the best shot at him as we are thinking to him as a wing and not a post player. This is even more important with the change in the 3-point line which is coming.

He can shoot the rock. Georgia Tech is pretty much desparate. Not sure he fits there as well as in Pullman.

A 7 footer can, may be able to face up to the basket, drive to basket as wing, shoot mid range jumpers, outside shots, long 2 pointers, 3 pointers.

BUT A 7 footer also needs to also post up, score inside, rebound, in addition to playing on outside as wing.

There are NBA 7 footers that play like a wing on outside. But they also post up, score inside, rebound, set screens, etc.

A 7 footer that almost never post up, that almost never scores inside, that is on outside 99% of time, shooting 3 pointers 99% of time, almost not rebounding, almost not setting picks, screens, etc, is UNACCEPTABLE, and would need to be benched, an or go somewhere else to play.

 

[etowncoug]

That's awesome and glad to hear he had a good trip. I'm wondering whether he can guard on the wing but he obviously would have good length. Really liked his potential from 3.

I'm sure Cannon would be welcomed back if he asked to return. I think Smith is more interested in getting him back than Marvin is in staying. Ali tweeted out "Go Cougs" today, so it looks like he'll be back as well.

 

[Glad Cougar]

We have three transfer portal players and a handful of offers out to recruits. The longer this drags out, the more I think we see two of the portal kids return. My question is who would you like to see? Lots of combos, but I'd be content with any combo of the three rounding out the class.

I'm really surprised Cannon hasn't been picked up, would love to see him come back.

I see the remaining high schoolers as longshots likely to transfer after the season anyway, and the most appealing transfers have already found homes. Not the end of the world to have a couple of players who have played P12 hoops.

Please clarify your comment about the remaining high schoolers who are long shots. Do you mean Kemp and or Post, neither who have yet to commit? Or the high schoolers already signed? What makes you think they would transfer after one season? Thanks in advance for the clarification.

Glad Cougar

 

[etowncoug]

Post seems like a longshot to sign. International players seem less tainted by the AAU mercenary mentality though so he'd probably stick around for a couple of years if he signed.
The rest of the HS recruits we are after (Kemp, DeGray, maybe Cockrell) are more fringe type prospects who get taken to fill out a class. They aren't our first choice and we aren't their first choice either. The trend has been for these kinds of recruits to transfer out after a year because they are pushed out by the staff to make way for players they like more or search for a better situation after showcasing/developing skills against P12 competition (Cannon, Flynn, and Acquaah being recent examples). The odds of anyone taken this late being an impact player at WSU are slim because of the likelihood of them transferring out is so high.

Please clarify your comment about the remaining high schoolers who are long shots. Do you mean Kemp and or Post, neither who have yet to commit? Or the high schoolers already signed? What makes you think they would transfer after one season? Thanks in advance for the clarification.

Glad Cougar

 

[7ICoug]

I'm sure Cannon would be welcomed back if he asked to return. I think Smith is more interested in getting him back than Marvin is in staying. Ali tweeted out "Go Cougs" today, so it looks like he'll be back as well.

He might have tweeted that but is still in the Transfer Portal.

 

[7ICoug]

Post seems like a longshot to sign. International players seem less tainted by the AAU mercenary mentality though so he'd probably stick around for a couple of years if he signed.
The rest of the HS recruits we are after (Kemp, DeGray, maybe Cockrell) are more fringe type prospects who get taken to fill out a class. They aren't our first choice and we aren't their first choice either. The trend has been for these kinds of recruits to transfer out after a year because they are pushed out by the staff to make way for players they like more or search for a better situation after showcasing/developing skills against P12 competition (Cannon, Flynn, and Acquaah being recent examples). The odds of anyone taken this late being an impact player at WSU are slim because of the likelihood of them transferring out is so high.

I don't agree that Post is a longshot at all. On the others. Kemp just visited, Kemp has only WSU and Montana as offers. He is a defensive player. I think Kemp is highly unlike your others. Flynn clearly had Ernie problems, Acquaah probably as well. Cannon don't know but its not like anyone other than Coach Smith has picked him up.

 

[7ICoug]

DeGray reclassed to 2020 and Cockrell has never had a WSU offer.

 

[SaveFerris]

Post seems like a longshot to sign. International players seem less tainted by the AAU mercenary mentality though so he'd probably stick around for a couple of years if he signed.
The rest of the HS recruits we are after (Kemp, DeGray, maybe Cockrell) are more fringe type prospects who get taken to fill out a class. They aren't our first choice and we aren't their first choice either. The trend has been for these kinds of recruits to transfer out after a year because they are pushed out by the staff to make way for players they like more or search for a better situation after showcasing/developing skills against P12 competition (Cannon, Flynn, and Acquaah being recent examples). The odds of anyone taken this late being an impact player at WSU are slim because of the likelihood of them transferring out is so high.

International players have worked well for us in the past and currently on the women's side even with the increased amount of player transfers. I'm sure Hristova could easily have found a new home but she stayed through the losing and a coaching change. International recruiting is a lot about relationships and program stability. Smith has definitely prioritized Europe in the past and in this first class plus Kunc returns. That hopefully also helps with Post.

It doesn't look like we were after Crockrell but I saw he recently picked up an offer from Pacific after getting some interest from BYU. DeGray reclassified to 2020 recently.

 

[etowncoug]

Flynn didn't have friction with Kent, he didn't like the negativity of the fan base and thought the team would be terrible with Franks turning pro. He also thought he'd be highly recruited by top programs. Ended up at a solid mid major. As a recruit, WSU was by far his best option and after a good sophomore season he saw an opportunity to improve his situation through a transfer. 10 years ago it was unthinkable to have an underrated recruit start from day one, play for two years, and to be given the keys to the kingdom, only to turn around and transfer out. It's just a different world.

If Kemp bursts onto the scene next season and pushes for conference freshman of the year, what are the odds he sticks around? Suddenly he'll have options other than Montana. He'll have everyone in his ear telling him to go somewhere else. All of this is fine because it means he's had a good season, but more likely there is a reason why he's been under the radar despite being the son of an NBA All-Star.

Maybe we should look at recruiting as the one year commitment it is increasingly becoming. Who gives us the best chance to win games next year? (with the understanding about half of the players eligible to return will opt to transfer)

I don't agree that Post is a longshot at all. On the others. Kemp just visited, Kemp has only WSU and Montana as offers. He is a defensive player. I think Kemp is highly unlike your others. Flynn clearly had Ernie problems, Acquaah probably as well. Cannon don't know but its not like anyone other than Coach Smith has picked him up.

 

[avabob1]

Not sure we can land enough players of the caliber to make us winners in year 1 at any point. Most programs dont benefit as much as expected with true one and dones let slone the kind of kids that would abandon WSU after a successful season.

On the positive side I think we can recruit and keep enough guys who could contribute as sophs or juniors. I know nothing about any of the 7 new kids we have landed, but sheer volume in such a short recruiting period suggests there are several keepers. Combine that with 3 returning contributors and an impact players doesn't make next year look totally bleak.

Smiths track record suggests an ability to get teams to at least moderately over achieve. I think next year will be an opportunity to watch some kids develop, and to see us be competitive to a greater degree than the last 2 years

It also wouldnt hurt if a couple thousand fans more per game would show up to appreciate decent college hoops even if not post season caliber play

 

[mikalalas]

Flynn didn't have friction with Kent, he didn't like the negativity of the fan base and thought the team would be terrible with Franks turning pro. He also thought he'd be highly recruited by top programs. Ended up at a solid mid major. As a recruit, WSU was by far his best option and after a good sophomore season he saw an opportunity to improve his situation through a transfer. 10 years ago it was unthinkable to have an underrated recruit start from day one, play for two years, and to be given the keys to the kingdom, only to turn around and transfer out. It's just a different world.

If Kemp bursts onto the scene next season and pushes for conference freshman of the year, what are the odds he sticks around? Suddenly he'll have options other than Montana. He'll have everyone in his ear telling him to go somewhere else. All of this is fine because it means he's had a good season, but more likely there is a reason why he's been under the radar despite being the son of an NBA All-Star.

Maybe we should look at recruiting as the one year commitment it is increasingly becoming. Who gives us the best chance to win games next year? (with the understanding about half of the players eligible to return will opt to transfer)

Post, Ali, Kemp are, have the best chance to commit, sign, comeback.

Kemp is pretty much already a done deal, will commit, sign, unless Post commits, signs, and Ali returns, leaving Kemp without a spot.

Or unless someone a Gonzaga type mid major, or a better then WSU P5 like PITT swoops in, and offers Kemp.

Sans those things Kemp is commiting, signing with WSU.

Also Kemp has about a 33 to 39% chance of having the type of breakout freshman year you mention.

And if Kemp does have a freshman breakout season, has about a 39 to 49% chance of transfering

But heres the thing: If he transfers he transfers, you get Kemp if you can because OF:

1. POTENTIAL, UPSIDE

2. You establish a PIPELINE connection to WESTSIDE, and 3,4,5 star, mid major, P5, college, NBA, FACTORY BEACH HS, and maybe even GARFIELD HS

3. Who Kemps Father is brings the SPOTLIGHT to WSU.

4. Because of above HELPS FUTURE RECRUITING.

If Kemp transfers, he transfers.

That doesnt mean that you dont recruit, commit, sign him, and go after someone else.

Same with all recruiting in General:

If they transfer, they transfer.

You still should recruit, commit, sign them, instead of chasing someine else.

If they transfer they transfer, but they may not transfer, not guaranteed to transfer.

When your WSU, where WSU is, you have to be willing to take calculated, mitigated risk, gambles academically, the transfer issue that mentioned, or that might not pan out.

If WSU does not do that, WSU either not win, or harder to win

And Smith, Leach both know that.

 

[Glad Cougar]

Flynn didn't have friction with Kent, he didn't like the negativity of the fan base and thought the team would be terrible with Franks turning pro. He also thought he'd be highly recruited by top programs. Ended up at a solid mid major. As a recruit, WSU was by far his best option and after a good sophomore season he saw an opportunity to improve his situation through a transfer. 10 years ago it was unthinkable to have an underrated recruit start from day one, play for two years, and to be given the keys to the kingdom, only to turn around and transfer out. It's just a different world.

If Kemp bursts onto the scene next season and pushes for conference freshman of the year, what are the odds he sticks around? Suddenly he'll have options other than Montana. He'll have everyone in his ear telling him to go somewhere else. All of this is fine because it means he's had a good season, but more likely there is a reason why he's been under the radar despite being the son of an NBA All-Star.

Maybe we should look at recruiting as the one year commitment it is increasingly becoming. Who gives us the best chance to win games next year? (with the understanding about half of the players eligible to return will opt to transfer)

While there is certainly a different landscape in college basketball with all the transfers these days, I'm expecting better retention of players under Smith than Kent had over the years. Smith has made it a priority to seek out players who look at WSU as their first choice. Doesn't mean they won't consider other schools after a year or two in Pullman, but I really think there's a specific type of player Smith wants and that type of player is not necessarily going to fit a lot of other programs that they might be consider should they think about transferring. Kent's recruits were recruited to play a style where there are a lot of options for a player. In short, Smith needs to go after these freshmen and not worry about what they might do a year or two down the road. Despite the explosion of transfers in the portal, the long term viability of WSU's program will depend on building a strong core of 4-year players.

Glad Cougar

 

[avabob1]

I don think there is a unique or different recruiting strategy for WSU in the transfer era. You continue to pursue the best players you can get with an emphasis on upside. You then develop that upside thru good coaching in order to minimize attrition. Nothing you can do about a kid who totally blows up and gets a chance to go to a perenial top 20 team, but we havent lost kids to those types of programs. We should be able to stem the attrition to the mid majors by up grading the program, including seeing some fan interest

 

[SaveFerris]

I don think there is a unique or different recruiting strategy for WSU in the transfer era. You continue to pursue the best players you can get with an emphasis on upside. You then develop that upside thru good coaching in order to minimize attrition. Nothing you can do about a kid who totally blows up and gets a chance to go to a perenial top 20 team, but we havent lost kids to those types of programs. We should be able to stem the attrition to the mid majors by up grading the program, including seeing some fan interest

Different time but Dick Bennett talked about character being a nonnegotiable when it comes to recruiting. Flynn was the leader of the program and for whatever the reason he decided to move on to "bigger and better". It's absolutely his choice but it's important for us to find kids that are going to stick around if for no other reason each other. We need those type of players that are not only talented enough to grow, develop, and compete down the road but that are going to embrace Smith's vision and each other. That's tough but Smith seems to have the correct approach.

It's more than likely going to be a tough ride next year. If not great but there's a lot of work to do.

 

[avabob1]

It will be a tough ride, but no tougher than 4-14, 11-20, capped by blowout losses to end the season this year

 

[etowncoug]

Isaiah Wade was quoted as saying he'd walk across broken glass to get to Pullman. He was all in for Smith too. He transferred.

The notion Smith will somehow significantly buck the trend of 50% of players transferring before their junior years is completely unfounded. If two of the first true freshman we are bringing in leave, we are doing well in this environment. It's not a character issue. It's a culture of always looking for a better deal. It's the LeBron effect. Cougs aren't bucking this national trend.

Different time but Dick Bennett talked about character being a nonnegotiable when it comes to recruiting. Flynn was the leader of the program and for whatever the reason he decided to move on to "bigger and better". It's absolutely his choice but it's important for us to find kids that are going to stick around if for no other reason each other. We need those type of players that are not only talented enough to grow, develop, and compete down the road but that are going to embrace Smith's vision and each other. That's tough but Smith seems to have the correct approach.

It's more than likely going to be a tough ride next year. If not great but there's a lot of work to do.

 

[SaveFerris]

Isaiah Wade was quoted as saying he'd walk across broken glass to get to Pullman. He was all in for Smith too. He transferred.

The notion Smith will somehow significantly buck the trend of 50% of players transferring before their junior years is completely unfounded. If two of the first true freshman we are bringing in leave, we are doing well in this environment. It's not a character issue. It's a culture of always looking for a better deal. It's the LeBron effect. Cougs aren't bucking this national trend.

I haven't heard exactly why Wade entered the transfer portal. Did he decide to move on or did he get a push from Smith? It's normal for players to look around when there is a coaching change.

Flynn was the focal point for the program along with Franks. When we lose players like that I think it becomes an even bigger challenge to get to stability and competitiveness in the program. Players are going to continue to transfer for all sorts of reasons but when you are losing leaders that's difficult to overcome.

When I say "character" I mean in the sense of sticking around when they are focal point for the program. At one time Flynn needed WSU. We were probably his best offer but when WSU needed Flynn he decided to leave. When it comes down to it Flynn was probably similar to Nigel Goss-Williams transferring from the UW. They were playing for coaches that weren't moving the needle at their respective programs. Kent's vision wasn't working so it's hard to blame anyone for jumping ship.

 

[mikalalas]

Isaiah Wade was quoted as saying he'd walk across broken glass to get to Pullman. He was all in for Smith too. He transferred.

The notion Smith will somehow significantly buck the trend of 50% of players transferring before their junior years is completely unfounded. If two of the first true freshman we are bringing in leave, we are doing well in this environment. It's not a character issue. It's a culture of always looking for a better deal. It's the LeBron effect. Cougs aren't bucking this national trend.

Here's the thing:

WSU had players transfering because of how bad Kent was as a coach.

The only reason there was the 50% transfer trend at WSU, is because of Kent.

Yes there is increased trend of transfering, but that is only about say 25% of the reason why transfers at WSU.

Yes players like coaches use WSU, use WSU as a stepping stone, but that is only about another about 25% of reason for transfers at WSU.

About 50 to 75% of the reason why transfers at WSU is, was KENT.

Now add to that, Kent is gone, new coach in Smith, while Smith is probably going to be a good coach, there is going to be transfers.

About the only way transfers will lessen, is for Smith to WIN, be successful at WSU.

And that would at least partially buck the transfer trend at WSU.

You say, seem to imply that even if Smith is, was successful, won lots, big at WSU, that he, Smith would STILL NOT buck the transfer trend at WSU.

That is probably false.

If Smith is successful, wins lots at WSU, players at WSU will, would stop transfering as much at WSU.

Yes there would still be transfering from, out of WSU, but it would happen LESS OFTEN.

Also like me, others have said, you recruit the best players you can, and then let the transfer chips fall where they may.

You dont play the oh no the sky is falling transfer wise game, dont recruit the better, best recruits, because they might transfer, etc.

 

[etowncoug]

Another rambling post built on a false premise. The 50% transfer rate is national, not at WSU. Ernie Kent isn't the coach at every university in the country.

Here's the thing:

WSU had players transfering because of how bad Kent was as a coach.

The only reason there was the 50% transfer trend at WSU, is because of Kent.

Yes there is increased trend of transfering, but that is only about say 25% of the reason why transfers at WSU.

Yes players like coaches use WSU, use WSU as a stepping stone, but that is only about another about 25% of reason for transfers at WSU.

About 50 to 75% of the reason why transfers at WSU is, was KENT.

Now add to that, Kent is gone, new coach in Smith, while Smith is probably going to be a good coach, there is going to be transfers.

About the only way transfers will lessen, is for Smith to WIN, be successful at WSU.

And that would at least partially buck the transfer trend at WSU.

You say, seem to imply that even if Smith is, was successful, won lots, big at WSU, that he, Smith would STILL NOT buck the transfer trend at WSU.

That is probably false.

If Smith is successful, wins lots at WSU, players at WSU will, would stop transfering as much at WSU.

Yes there would still be transfering from, out of WSU, but it would happen LESS OFTEN.

Also like me, others have said, you recruit the best players you can, and then let the transfer chips fall where they may.

You dont play the oh no the sky is falling transfer wise game, dont recruit the better, best recruits, because they might transfer, etc.

 

[jourdand]

If WSU is winning and has a successful basketball program who cares how many players transfer? Kentucky for one seems to have a lot of transfers, it’s not always a negative for the team, although I do think it’s a negative for college basketball as a whole.

 

[avabob1]

No question the transfer phenomenon is a national trend. Having said that it seems that recruiting more D1 caliber players in the first place, combined with better player development would help to lesson the attrition. Remember, the majority of transfers from WSU over the past 5 years have been players who werent going to contribute at the D-1 level.

 

[etowncoug]

If WSU is winning and has a successful basketball program who cares how many players transfer? Kentucky for one seems to have a lot of transfers, it’s not always a negative for the team, although I do think it’s a negative for college basketball as a whole.

I don't care about transfers as they are part of life now. Just pointing out a strategy where you recruit promising talents and develop them over the period of several years likely won't work as well as it did 20 years ago. It's twice as bad when guys like Flynn transfer out and you end up developing other schools players.

 

[Observer11]

I don't care about transfers as they are part of life now. Just pointing out a strategy where you recruit promising talents and develop them over the period of several years likely won't work as well as it did 20 years ago. It's twice as bad when guys like Flynn transfer out and you end up developing other schools players.

Flynn transferring has never bothered me a single bit. If he'd have gone to a legitimate P5 power or someplace like Gonzaga, maybe that argument holds water.

He was a nice player but the fact he ended up at a lower tier WCC school doesn't give much credence to his being 'developed' or coached up.

Thames is probably the only transfer that really gives me butt hurt - aside from going back to when Kelvin stole a couple recruits to OU.

 

[SaveFerris]

Flynn transferred to SDSU where Thames went. I was bum hurt when Thames transferred as well but we have trampled that one to death.

 

[Observer11]

Flynn transferred to SDSU where Thames went. I was bum hurt when Thames transferred as well but we have trampled that one to death.

That's my fault - I had Flynn transferring with Romar to Pepperdine.

Too much movement to keep them all straight.

I still don't think 'all that development' was lost. Because there wasn't much development to begin with.

 

[SaveFerris]

That's my fault - I had Flynn transferring with Romar to Pepperdine.

Too much movement to keep them all straight.

I still don't think 'all that development' was lost. Because there wasn't much development to begin with.

Flynn was an important piece at least on the offensive end. He bailed us out offensively in more than a few games. Would we have been better off with Flynn/Acquaah or Ali/Robinson? While I believe the former it probably wouldn't have been significantly better off.

I do agree with Ava that most of the transfers have been players that weren't exactly difference makers like Ergas, King, Langston, etc. Flynn was easily the biggest loss but if we were in a better position he likely would have been similar to "losing" Josh Akognon.

 

[ElComanche]

J Dowdell commits to cougs BYU Cougs

 

[etowncoug]

I looks like it comes down to who amongst Kemp, John, Wur, or Cannon decides to fill the final spot first. Rumor has it Cannon hasn't ruled out a return to Pullman.

 

[SaveFerris]

John recently lost his offer to Pitt. I don’t know what other official offers he has other than Oklahoma State interest. Seems like if he had an offer there he would take it.

The door still open for Cannon coming back would be great. I would take him for 2 years over others with more time on the clock.

It’s still “only” June.

 

[etowncoug]

Where did you hear about John losing the Pitt offer. Makes sense given he didn't commit but I haven't heard anything.

John recently lost his offer to Pitt. I don’t know what other official offers he has other than Oklahoma State interest. Seems like if he had an offer there he would take it.

The door still open for Cannon coming back would be great. I would take him for 2 years over others with more time on the clock.

It’s still “only” June.

 

[CougDave]

John no longer has an offer from Pitt.

https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2019/06/10/pitt-ends-recruitment-of-2019-c-nigel-john/

 

[Glad Cougar]

John no longer has an offer from Pitt.

https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2019/06/10/pitt-ends-recruitment-of-2019-c-nigel-john/

It doesn't appear that John is playing the recruiting game all that well:

"Another factor was the lack of communication that Pitt was able to have with John and his family/camp."

Coaches don't have that much patience if calls or texts are not acknowledged or returned, if that indeed is what happened at Pitt. I wonder if WSU has been getting the same treatment.

Glad Cougar

 

[SaveFerris]

It doesn't appear that John is playing the recruiting game all that well:

"Another factor was the lack of communication that Pitt was able to have with John and his family/camp."

Coaches don't have that much patience if calls or texts are not acknowledged or returned, if that indeed is what happened at Pitt. I wonder if WSU has been getting the same treatment.

Glad Cougar

From the outside looking in it doesn't seem like he's played things well. I thought he would jump on the Pitt offer but he seemed to drag his feet.

The "family/camp" comment also stuck out to me. I wonder if they are getting in the way.

 

[etowncoug]

Fantastic find on the article CougarDave. Everyone thinks they are a Machiavellian genius and are going to leverage themselves into the perfect situation. Not everyone has LeBron's talent and they get surprised when teams don't want to put up with the drama. Sounds like John has one foot out the door before he even sets foot on campus.

 

[COUGinNCW]

Fantastic find on the article CougarDave. Everyone thinks they are a Machiavellian genius and are going to leverage themselves into the perfect situation. Not everyone has LeBron's talent and they get surprised when teams don't want to put up with the drama. Sounds like John has one foot out the door before he even sets foot on campus.

So if Johns signed a LOI with Johns are they obligated to take him?