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Sponge, I like you and I agree with a lot of your points, so just countering a few here respectfully.

In Louisville today there were 2 armed guards at the bank. That didn’t stop 6 people from getting killed (probably more with some hit in ICU).

Police responded in Uvalde but hesitated to engage the shooter.

I’m not for defunding police but good guys with guns are usually little resistance to a psycho with a semi or fully automatic assault rifle who ambushes them. Aside from that, good guys with guns can’t do anything about a guy who sneaks weapons into a hotel and fires from an elevated position on a crowd after he’s barricaded the door (Vegas).

To me the “it’s the guns” vs “it’s the people” is a tired and pointless argument. Reality…it’s some of the guns and some of the people who are able to access them way too easily. Like everything else you probably have 98% of people who are responsible gun owners and can handle an AR-15 or a bazooka for that matter. You just can’t allow the 2% to have easy access to those weapons and that’s where we are at and why so many people die in these senseless tragedies.

So what do you do? What’s the right answer? Not sure there is one. Yes criminals will access them anyways, but in a lot of these cases it’s not criminals it’s people who were able to purchase them easily or get them from someone they lived with who did. If you ban these weapons they will be for sale on the black market, yes, but will be way more expensive and difficult to get for the type of individuals launching these assaults. And if they are launching these attacks with a legally purchased Remington deer rifle or 9mm vs an automatic weapon with a 50 round mag, the death toll for these incidents will be far less…and I think for the reasons these people want to commit these crimes…mass casualties, many of them would not commit them at all.
Adding to your points a little bit...

Uvalde was obviously a massive failure. But if you haven't seen the body cam video from the school in Memphis (not the abbreviated version packaged for nightly news - the version MPD released), then go find it. That's how an active shooter response is supposed to go. Barely 3 minutes between rolling up to the curb and "suspect down," and the whole time cops are moving toward the threat. It wasn't just textbook - it's going to re-write the textbook. In spite of that, the suspect killed 6, and could have gotten more by going room to room instead of standing at the 2nd floor window and shooting at cops. I'd still buy beers for either of those guys...although they don't look like they're old enough.

Almost every mass shooting is perpetrated using weapons that were purchased and owned legally. It's pretty rare that they aren't. There's been several where the guns were "borrowed" from a parent who didn't secure them well enough, but even those are a minority. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that while some reasonable restrictions might help, gun laws by themselves are not going to address the issue.

The clear answer is that we have to address the guns and the people. At the same time. And with measures against the people that liberals won't like (we're going to have to call some people dangerous and separate them from society) and neither will the conservatives (some guns and/or accessories just don't have a benefit that outweighs their risk).

The interesting thing to me is the current Supreme Court's take on things. They want an originalist view of restrictions, but refuse to recognize an originalist environment - when the Constitution was written, a really good, fast marksman could fire about 4 shots in a minute. Even more interesting that Clarence Thomas is one of the leaders of that interpretation, since from an originalist perspective, he wouldn't get to vote, and would only count as 3/5 of a person in the census.
 
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Adding to your points a little bit...

Uvalde was obviously a massive failure. But if you haven't seen the body cam video from the school in Memphis (not the abbreviated version packaged for nightly news - the version MPD released), then go find it. That's how an active shooter response is supposed to go. Barely 3 minutes between rolling up to the curb and "suspect down," and the whole time cops are moving toward the threat. It wasn't just textbook - it's going to re-write the textbook. In spite of that, the suspect killed 6, and could have gotten more by going room to room instead of standing at the 2nd floor window and shooting at cops. I'd still buy beers for either of those guys...although they don't look like they're old enough.

Almost every mass shooting is perpetrated using weapons that were purchased and owned legally. It's pretty rare that they aren't. There's been several where the guns were "borrowed" from a parent who didn't secure them well enough, but even those are a minority. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that while some reasonable restrictions might help, gun laws by themselves are not going to address the issue.

The clear answer is that we have to address the guns and the people. At the same time. And with measures against the people that liberals won't like (we're going to have to call some people dangerous and separate them from society) and neither will the conservatives (some guns and/or accessories just don't have a benefit that outweighs their risk).

The interesting thing to me is the current Supreme Court's take on things. They want an originalist view of restrictions, but refuse to recognize an originalist environment - when the Constitution was written, a really good, fast marksman could fire about 4 shots in a minute. Even more interesting that Clarence Thomas is one of the leaders of that interpretation, since from an originalist perspective, he wouldn't get to vote, and would only count as 3/5 of a person in the census.
I have seen Memphis and they were phenomenal. Not trying to paint all these law enforcement folks this way, just pointing out that putting them there doesn’t make the problem disappear. It makes their job exponentially harder having to deal with people that have this type of weapon. I agree it’s both.
 
I wonder why liberals are so insanely focused on AR-15's anyway? Is it just something related to Trump Derangement Syndrome? Is it because they are so "scary looking"? Is it somehow worse for the victim, the family, the friends when someone is killed by an AR-15 than it is for someone killed by a Glock, a knife, or a baseball bat? Somehow, I don't think so.
Have you read the new Washington gun ban bill?

Its definition of an "assault weapon" targets features and accessories that make a weapon look 'mean.' If you have a semi-auto rifle with a thumbhole stock or a flash guard (or other select features), it's an assault weapon...treated the same as if it had a grenade launcher. If your semi-auto pistol has a threaded barrel, it's also an assault weapon. So is your shotgun, if it holds 8 shells, and any centerfire rifle with a fixed or detachable magazine over 10 rounds.

I'm fairly confident that it will be found unconstitutional, but Inslee will definitely sign it.
 
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Have you read the new Washington gun ban bill?

Its definition of an "assault weapon" targets features and accessories that make a weapon look 'mean.' If you have a semi-auto rifle with a thumbhole stock or a flash guard (or other select features), it's an assault weapon...treated the same as if it had a grenade launcher. If your semi-auto pistol has a threaded barrel, it's also an assault weapon. So is your shotgun, if it holds 8 shells, and any centerfire rifle with a fixed or detachable magazine over 10 rounds.

I'm fairly confident that it will be found unconstitutional, but Inslee will definitely sign it.
Not surprising that WilliePooPoo is on here popping off once again. How's that vaccine of yours holding up? Moron.... Dude coming on here acting like he's all of sudden against authoritarianism. This idiot would've forced people to get that worthless vaccine if he had his way.
 
Both can be the case at the same time. He can look out his window and see the flowers and the grass and think it's beautiful and still think the country is going to hell.
Justin so I don't misunderstand....(i will say that my view is way different than his..) about the 1:25 mark he talks about it isn't the same. No one will be able to have the fun he did nor the opportunity. That is apparently what he and his fellow enlisted men died for. I can speak for fun. I guarantee I have had the fun he had in his life. But what opportunities is he talking about. That is what makes it the country has gone hell in a hand basket....and I am wondering what opportunities are being denied?
 
Not surprising that WilliePooPoo is on here popping off once again. How's that vaccine of yours holding up? Moron.... Dude coming on here acting like he's all of sudden against authoritarianism. This idiot would've forced people to get that worthless vaccine if he had his way.
Well I recently got my 4th vaccination. I've now had the J&J, two Pfizers, and now a Moderna. Trifecta of shots. And I actually got Covid last summer afer 3 shots. As an at risk individual, I was pretty happy that is was very mild, fever and cough for a couple of days was all. So call it worthless if you want, I'm damn glad I got those jabs.
 
Stretch....only one side of the mouth. There maybe be 100 trans kids who play in sports across the country. Say my daughter played against one and lost. Grand scheme of things she lost a game she probably doesn't even remember. But you know what, let's say she does remember. Guess what she can do? She can tell anyone willing to listen she played against a trans kid and how she viewed that as unfair. Guess what the kids in Uvalde that were gunned down can't do? So it is on the ED spectrum of importance to least importance.

Second...are you serious about "fairness? In 2017 Brandon Roy coached for Nathan Hale High. In came Michael Porter, and as an AAU coach Roy took players from various areas. The WIAA never investigated, but no way did their point guard "move" to the Nathan Hale area. Then after one season their second best player moved to Garfield. You believe that is how high school sports was set up? You think that is fair?

Head over to West Seattle girls from 15-19. One kid who went to play at either Portland or Portland state was a west seattle kid. The remaining AAU players like the two Fiso kids "transferred in. There was an older FISO kid who played at a a totally different high school district than the seattle school district to play in a championship game.

The family moved to be in W Seattle to chase the ring and be with their AAU teammates. BTW WSU's Grace Sarver was on that team. She actually may have been from W Seattle but four players were reported not to be.

So was it fair to Lake Washington in 2020 to play and lose to Garfield who had Megan Fiso(at W seattle from Freshman to junior) now at Michigan and a top player from Sumner to transfer in their senior years to make a super team?

Is it fair that Eastside Catholic has a kid if not two girls from Pierce County playing for them as an AAU package?

I just named probably 10 kids who made it unfair for other woman players. That is more than 1/10 of the kids who are trans that are competing nationally. So for me it is perspective and how wide spread it is versus the attention that it gets.

Stretch, what happens in five years if it is discovered that their DNA matches that of someone of the opposite sex. That despite the equipment everything else says woman? same goes for someone who is gay. What happens if we find out there is a DNA component that for example is different between gay men and straight men.?

I know a family at birth who had twins. One a male, the other they weren't sure so from birth they "transitioned her" to be a girl by giving her female hormones. Kid went on to have a very successful sports career.

So this stuff happens and it is above my pay grade. But I also know in terms of importance it is lower down the pecking order.
Good lord, Ed-what you are talking about is miles away from what we are discussing here. You are talking about kids of the same sex transferring from one school to another. I am talking about male born kids declaring themselves as a female and then competing against females. Not comparable at all.

But just so you understand me, NO I do not condone kids bouncing around from one district to another simply for athletic reasons, to be on a better team. Maybe just a cranky old fart, but I grew up where every kid played on the school team in the district where he lived. As far as I am concerned, that's the way it should still be.

A buddy and I did scorekeeping and clock/scoreboard at Overlake one year, where his brother coached the boys team. Ed Pepple had a great team, I think all five starters got college rides, one to Duke (Snyder?), one to Stanford, others to lesser schools and levels. One kid was from Issaquah, one or two from Bellevue, one from Kirkland, and I don't recall the rest, but there was not more than one actually from Mercer Island. Was that fair? Hell no. It stunk.

Question- How many of the swimmers that lost to "Lia Thomas" (name?) do you think will EVER forget those competitions. I would bet on none being the answer. How many of the HS track girls that lost to the two boys masquerading as girls will ever forget that they unfairly lost medals and possible college scholarships? Again, my bet is none. If you doubt that, just think about how everyone here (none of who actually played in the games) will ever forget the Bobby Wade "catch, or the USC LB target on Minshew, or the Apple Cup "lateral" call, or the non-PI call in end zone against Oregon? Those things stick with you!

The whole thing about what happens 5-10 years down the road is a red herring. Today matters, not some theoretical happening down the road. But if you want to try to play that game......what happens 5-10 years down the road when it is conclusively proved that it is impossible to change your sex?

Of course, we really already know that.
 
I'm happy to say that I have never bought anything off of Amazon, and rarely buy anything online. And I like going to the store. I like human interaction. I also have a routine where I count all the women who I'd like to - well you know. It's fun, there are usually 5 or 6 who qualify on a trip to Winco. And you know you can take your kids shopping with you. Get them out into the world.

This is amazing. Well done.
 
Sponge....you don't think men's assault on women have been covered up in every walk of life? Why use the school board who tried to cover this one action up as proof going to hell in a hand basket. We tend to look another direction when it doesn't happen in our area of life. You count all the homicides in Seattle in the area you lived in and in a two year period doesn't amount to the deaths in Uvalde.

Count up all the deaths that corrupt corporate Fauci was responsible for directly and divide by ~350,000 and you approximate the number of deaths in the Uvalde school shooting.
 
Stretch....only one side of the mouth. There maybe be 100 trans kids who play in sports across the country. Say my daughter played against one and lost. Grand scheme of things she lost a game she probably doesn't even remember. But you know what, let's say she does remember. Guess what she can do? She can tell anyone willing to listen she played against a trans kid and how she viewed that as unfair. Guess what the kids in Uvalde that were gunned down can't do? So it is on the ED spectrum of importance to least importance.

Second...are you serious about "fairness? In 2017 Brandon Roy coached for Nathan Hale High. In came Michael Porter, and as an AAU coach Roy took players from various areas. The WIAA never investigated, but no way did their point guard "move" to the Nathan Hale area. Then after one season their second best player moved to Garfield. You believe that is how high school sports was set up? You think that is fair?

Head over to West Seattle girls from 15-19. One kid who went to play at either Portland or Portland state was a west seattle kid. The remaining AAU players like the two Fiso kids "transferred in. There was an older FISO kid who played at a a totally different high school district than the seattle school district to play in a championship game.

The family moved to be in W Seattle to chase the ring and be with their AAU teammates. BTW WSU's Grace Sarver was on that team. She actually may have been from W Seattle but four players were reported not to be.

So was it fair to Lake Washington in 2020 to play and lose to Garfield who had Megan Fiso(at W seattle from Freshman to junior) now at Michigan and a top player from Sumner to transfer in their senior years to make a super team?

Is it fair that Eastside Catholic has a kid if not two girls from Pierce County playing for them as an AAU package?

I just named probably 10 kids who made it unfair for other woman players. That is more than 1/10 of the kids who are trans that are competing nationally. So for me it is perspective and how wide spread it is versus the attention that it gets.

Stretch, what happens in five years if it is discovered that their DNA matches that of someone of the opposite sex. That despite the equipment everything else says woman? same goes for someone who is gay. What happens if we find out there is a DNA component that for example is different between gay men and straight men.?

I know a family at birth who had twins. One a male, the other they weren't sure so from birth they "transitioned her" to be a girl by giving her female hormones. Kid went on to have a very successful sports career.

So this stuff happens and it is above my pay grade. But I also know in terms of importance it is lower down the pecking order.

You are cold hearted and callous.
 
So you are talking out of both sides of your mouth here. On one side you say to not worry about the small % of trans kids playing sports, just nevermind because it is so small. On the other side you get excited about AR-15 rifles killing kids, when all rifles (not just AR-15's) were only involved in 3% of murders in 2020 (per PEW Research). Typical liberal effort, no need to be be consistent.

The reason you pay attention to men masquerading as females competing in women's sports is due to fairness. Every single male doing that is being unfair to a biological female. Science and data and rational thinking tells us that biological males are bigger and stronger than biological females. Transgender females are in reality being transvestites more than true females. Altering appearance does NOT alter biology. Couple analogies for you. Having cosmetic surgery to give yourself a split tongue does not make you a snake, an animal that has a split tongue naturally. Also, modifying a 1974 Ford Pinto by grafting on tires, wheels, and a hood ornament from a 2020 Mercedes does not change the fact that you still have a Pinto POS, it just looks slightly different. In the same way, having some cosmetic surgery and even taking drugs or hormones will NOT transform one biological sex into a different one.

I wonder why liberals are so insanely focused on AR-15's anyway? Is it just something related to Trump Derangement Syndrome? Is it because they are so "scary looking"? Is it somehow worse for the victim, the family, the friends when someone is killed by an AR-15 than it is for someone killed by a Glock, a knife, or a baseball bat? Somehow, I don't think so.

Here is a clue for all the "gun control advocates" out there- there is one thing and one thing only that is common to a murder with a weapon, and that is the actions of the person using that weapon! Doesn't matter if it is an AR-15 semi auto, an AK-47 full auto, a knife, a machete, a hammer, a bat, a tire iron, a rope, a belt, a revolver, a pipe, or a rock- what really matters is the human being using the "weapon". the only way to affect the murders is to address the human behind the act and the factors that are influencing that person. That may include mental illness, music, movies, videos, parents, friends, internet influencers, and other things. Not a single one of those weapons is
dangerous without a human being using them.

Don't forget to mention that Ed supports the killing of children during early childhood development. There have been millions of those killings even up until week 40 and even after birth since the 1970s. It is barberic. But as you mention, there is no consistency from Ed and other neoMarxists.

There are many ways to kill people as you mention. China experienced a rash of murders from machetes and large knives...in schools, no less. Should we ban knives? Cars and trucks driving through crowds are another way for hate filled monsters to kill innocent lives. Let's ban cars and trucks too.

The left doesn't give a damn about children. They hold no moral high ground on this issue as they kicked God out of government schools years ago and then wonder why drugged up kids proliferate, with greedy, corrupt big pharma and big med pump out anti-depressants...and making massive profits from it. These drugs dull the emotional senses of those who take them. Who knows what else they do to children whose brains are still developing.

Want to allow the medical profession to mutilate children? Ed's on board with that 100 percent. It's so disgusting. We are talking about children.

The left won't stop until all guns are banned and confiscated. That is their goal. That makes it easier for them to impose Nazi totalitarian government on the stupid masses who have no clue what their true motives are.
 
Adding to your points a little bit...

Uvalde was obviously a massive failure. But if you haven't seen the body cam video from the school in Memphis (not the abbreviated version packaged for nightly news - the version MPD released), then go find it. That's how an active shooter response is supposed to go. Barely 3 minutes between rolling up to the curb and "suspect down," and the whole time cops are moving toward the threat. It wasn't just textbook - it's going to re-write the textbook. In spite of that, the suspect killed 6, and could have gotten more by going room to room instead of standing at the 2nd floor window and shooting at cops. I'd still buy beers for either of those guys...although they don't look like they're old enough.

Almost every mass shooting is perpetrated using weapons that were purchased and owned legally. It's pretty rare that they aren't. There's been several where the guns were "borrowed" from a parent who didn't secure them well enough, but even those are a minority. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that while some reasonable restrictions might help, gun laws by themselves are not going to address the issue.

The clear answer is that we have to address the guns and the people. At the same time. And with measures against the people that liberals won't like (we're going to have to call some people dangerous and separate them from society) and neither will the conservatives (some guns and/or accessories just don't have a benefit that outweighs their risk).

The interesting thing to me is the current Supreme Court's take on things. They want an originalist view of restrictions, but refuse to recognize an originalist environment - when the Constitution was written, a really good, fast marksman could fire about 4 shots in a minute. Even more interesting that Clarence Thomas is one of the leaders of that interpretation, since from an originalist perspective, he wouldn't get to vote, and would only count as 3/5 of a person in the census.

Many if may not know this but our despicable VP, the venerable (cough) Kamala Harris has poured out all kinds of sympathy to the "trans" demographic, but ignored the victims' families of the school shooting. You know those Christians deserve all the violence they get from the poor victim group called "transgenders." They are the real victims, not the beautiful children and the three school employees. They are contemptible, right Ed?

Joe Biden was no better.

It's difficult to fathom the evil of this administration.
 
Well I recently got my 4th vaccination. I've now had the J&J, two Pfizers, and now a Moderna. Trifecta of shots. And I actually got Covid last summer afer 3 shots. As an at risk individual, I was pretty happy that is was very mild, fever and cough for a couple of days was all. So call it worthless if you want, I'm damn glad I got those jabs.

I saw yesterday that the Swiss government no longer recommends the covid jabs. They are a bit slow on the uptake, but are finally getting it.


This doctor's mocking of the fraudulent vaccine with numerous and apparently unending "boosters" is incredible...

 
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Not surprising that WilliePooPoo is on here popping off once again. How's that vaccine of yours holding up? Moron.... Dude coming on here acting like he's all of sudden against authoritarianism. This idiot would've forced people to get that worthless vaccine if he had his way.
Um…what?
 
Not surprising that WilliePooPoo is on here popping off once again. How's that vaccine of yours holding up? Moron.... Dude coming on here acting like he's all of sudden against authoritarianism. This idiot would've forced people to get that worthless vaccine if he had his way.
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Don't forget to mention that Ed supports the killing of children during early childhood development. There have been millions of those killings even up until week 40 and even after birth since the 1970s. It is barberic. But as you mention, there is no consistency from Ed and other neoMarxists.

There are many ways to kill people as you mention. China experienced a rash of murders from machetes and large knives...in schools, no less. Should we ban knives? Cars and trucks driving through crowds are another way for hate filled monsters to kill innocent lives. Let's ban cars and trucks too.

The left doesn't give a damn about children. They hold no moral high ground on this issue as they kicked God out of government schools years ago and then wonder why drugged up kids proliferate, with greedy, corrupt big pharma and big med pump out anti-depressants...and making massive profits from it. These drugs dull the emotional senses of those who take them. Who knows what else they do to children whose brains are still developing.

Want to allow the medical profession to mutilate children? Ed's on board with that 100 percent. It's so disgusting. We are talking about children.

The left won't stop until all guns are banned and confiscated. That is their goal. That makes it easier for them to impose Nazi totalitarian government on the stupid masses who have no clue what their true motives are.
"How did Ed Get In My Head".....I have said my feelings on abortion to week 40? Didn't know that was the case. I didn't know I ever expressed my feelings on 8-18 year old's "mutilating" their bodies. God out of schools. Have God in private schools all you want. Or if God is in school make sure you have the Koran in the school as well. There was a reason why our founding fathers wanted a separation of church and state.

But keep on letting Ed get in your head....
 
Good lord, Ed-what you are talking about is miles away from what we are discussing here. You are talking about kids of the same sex transferring from one school to another. I am talking about male born kids declaring themselves as a female and then competing against females. Not comparable at all.

But just so you understand me, NO I do not condone kids bouncing around from one district to another simply for athletic reasons, to be on a better team. Maybe just a cranky old fart, but I grew up where every kid played on the school team in the district where he lived. As far as I am concerned, that's the way it should still be.

A buddy and I did scorekeeping and clock/scoreboard at Overlake one year, where his brother coached the boys team. Ed Pepple had a great team, I think all five starters got college rides, one to Duke (Snyder?), one to Stanford, others to lesser schools and levels. One kid was from Issaquah, one or two from Bellevue, one from Kirkland, and I don't recall the rest, but there was not more than one actually from Mercer Island. Was that fair? Hell no. It stunk.

Question- How many of the swimmers that lost to "Lia Thomas" (name?) do you think will EVER forget those competitions. I would bet on none being the answer. How many of the HS track girls that lost to the two boys masquerading as girls will ever forget that they unfairly lost medals and possible college scholarships? Again, my bet is none. If you doubt that, just think about how everyone here (none of who actually played in the games) will ever forget the Bobby Wade "catch, or the USC LB target on Minshew, or the Apple Cup "lateral" call, or the non-PI call in end zone against Oregon? Those things stick with you!

The whole thing about what happens 5-10 years down the road is a red herring. Today matters, not some theoretical happening down the road. But if you want to try to play that game......what happens 5-10 years down the road when it is conclusively proved that it is impossible to change your sex?

Of course, we really already know that.
Oh...I thought you used the word fair when talking about the less than 100 nationwide trans athletes. If you just say I don't like it I wouldn't have pointed to tons of evidence of much more rampant "unfairness" in girls high school sports.

Stretch, as you know I have two daughters, who have tons of friends who they played sports with. Starting back in 3rd grade soccer, the parents can remember the championship game where there was a shootout and went seven deep in the championship game. All the parents remember the game. You know who doesn't? The kids who played it. They laugh at us because we do remember.

I could go game after game with my kids and their friends and they wpould say ...huh. Yeah I am sure the competitor against Lia Thomas remembers. But she could also swim against a woman who was on steroids.

You act like this happens all the time, it does not. There are many more things that are unfair that happen to these sports kids on a day to day basis. But if this is a top issue so be it. But just don't say it is unfair then when pointed to other things like steroids or kids transferring which happen way more frequently say we are talking about two different things. Unfair is unfair. Just say you don't like it. I am ok with that.

No red herring about the future. If you are sure of what will happen congrats. Let me know where the stock market will be in 2033.
 
Many if may not know this but our despicable VP, the venerable (cough) Kamala Harris has poured out all kinds of sympathy to the "trans" demographic, but ignored the victims' families of the school shooting. You know those Christians deserve all the violence they get from the poor victim group called "transgenders." They are the real victims, not the beautiful children and the three school employees. They are contemptible, right Ed?

Joe Biden was no better.

It's difficult to fathom the evil of this administration.
Yo "Ed's in my head"....who is contemplable? You want me to comment on what?
 
"How did Ed Get In My Head".....I have said my feelings on abortion to week 40? Didn't know that was the case. I didn't know I ever expressed my feelings on 8-18 year old's "mutilating" their bodies. God out of schools. Have God in private schools all you want. Or if God is in school make sure you have the Koran in the school as well. There was a reason why our founding fathers wanted a separation of church and state.

But keep on letting Ed get in your head....

No Ed. Your views aren't as important as you think.

The Koran doesn't include "God" in its writings? Ed you are struggling once again to think and understand.

Remember, everyone has a religion. The question is which one is followed. We've seen what wreckage that secular religion is delivering to our country, including record suicide rates, transgenderism, narcissism, hopelessness, etc.

Maybe this is the point though? Maybe this is exactly what you want?
 
Not the one you are trying to make here. I already told you Ali and the protestors were courageous in standing up against the government in what they felt was an illegal war. They went to jail, they left the country in their protests. They made sacrifices. And like I said WW2 vets and people of that era thought because they didn't fight the country was going to hell in a hand basket. If that is your point I totally agree with you.

Still awaiting the links that support your bullshite statement that "WW2 vets and people of that era thought because they didn't fight the country was going to hell in a hand basket."

I'm sure I'll have to keep waiting for Mr. Life is Unfair.

That is, until he sees something in society or in his personal life that he deems as unfair. Love that consistency Ed. 😀
 
Glad to see your ignorance continues to cloud your judgement.... Tired of getting jabbed yet? Or are you still thirsty?
Man this and the other thread are getting surreal. WTH guys, we are all supposed to be Cougs.
 
Because I think there is crazier crap we are looking past, and we don't do jack about it. Making issues out of the less than 100 trans kids playing sports, I think that is nuts being top and center. That is crazy to me. Do I think 12 year old's should be fully transitioned? I do struggle with it because it is a life time decision. But what happens in 10 years if we discover their genetic coding is different than a binary male? What if there genetics point to girl instead of boy. Then what?

Ed, I generally think that there is a handful of posters that are totally full of sh!t that argue with you just for the sake of arguing. That said, the highlighted statement above does show how absolutely stupid some of the fights that the pro-LGBTQ community are choosing to fight. You say, "it's less than 100 trans kids, why not let them play?" Reasonable, normal people know that the millions of girls who participate in sports shouldn't have to even wonder if those 100 kids are going to be there. 100 kids not getting to play sports is inconsequential but the LGBGT community has chosen to make that a primary right that they want to fight for. Hundreds of thousands of kids can't play sports for a variety of reasons but we are supposed to throw out the needs of the many for the needs of the very, very few.

I'm pretty damned middle of the road on most of my thinking, but transgender kids in sports is fundamentally wrong and the fact that the LGBT community (and its supporters) just don't give a shit about everyone else on this issue weakens their cause overall. The far right and a lot of conservative folks have got it wrong, but too often, the far left and the LGBTQ community are just as guilty in their thinking on issues.

As far as the video that started this thread, old people bitching about the world going to hell in a hand basket is the oldest tale in human history. There are ways that our society has changed that aren't great and we could all use a little more introspection, but the truth is that there was a lot of terrible things that went on in the "good old days" that don't happen now that pedophiles, rapists, racists and other terrible people can't hide the way that they used to. Even if I hate how divisive the current times are, I would never trade what I have today for the "good old days".
 
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The irony bring the terribly witty poster who came up with that just so happens to be an ivermectin pimping Big Pharma whore.
Lying BigPharmaPimp. Never once said people should take ivermectin.

Said repeatedly people should have the choice of treatment options and that the government had no business mandating treatment for something less than a year old with drugs that had not gone through rigorous trials.
 
Man this and the other thread are getting surreal. WTH guys, we are all supposed to be Cougs.
He’s seriously butthurt about something I may or may not have posted long ago and can’t get over it. Been stalking me ever since. Mental illness is a bitch.
 
Lying BigPharmaPimp. Never once said people should take ivermectin.

Said repeatedly people should have the choice of treatment options and that the government had no business mandating treatment for something less than a year old with drugs that had not gone through rigorous trials.
Nice try but that defense didn’t work for Kyrie either when he linked that antisemitic shit. You is what you is, hypocrite.
 
He’s seriously butthurt about something I may or may not have posted long ago and can’t get over it. Been stalking me ever since. Mental illness is a bitch.
Heh - this is why I practice "poster amnesia". I don't remember who insulted me or when on this board. Just on to the next topic. Some tend to catalog this shit for years.
 
You are cold hearted and callous.
Which part .....cold hearted that I think it is wrong for Nathan Hale to cheat and make kids who went to the school for years get cut because new players "transferred in"? If that is cold hearted and callous I would be more than happy to accept that charge.
 
Heh - this is why I practice "poster amnesia". I don't remember who insulted me or when on this board. Just on to the next topic. Some tend to catalog this shit for years.
Even better is that I’m pretty certain he’s the same poster who a few months ago I asked to produce evidence of my alleged sin and he couldn’t even though this site had a very good search tool.
 
Lying BigPharmaPimp. Never once said people should take ivermectin.

Said repeatedly people should have the choice of treatment options and that the government had no business mandating treatment for something less than a year old with drugs that had not gone through rigorous trials.
11....how long do you think the trial should have been to make them rigorous?
 
Ed, I generally think that there is a handful of posters that are totally full of sh!t that argue with you just for the sake of arguing. That said, the highlighted statement above does show how absolutely stupid some of the fights that the pro-LGBTQ community are choosing to fight. You say, "it's less than 100 trans kids, why not let them play?" Reasonable, normal people know that the millions of girls who participate in sports shouldn't have to even wonder if those 100 kids are going to be there. 100 kids not getting to play sports is inconsequential but the LGBGT community has chosen to make that a primary right that they want to fight for. Hundreds of thousands of kids can't play sports for a variety of reasons but we are supposed to throw out the needs of the many for the needs of the very, very few.

I'm pretty damned middle of the road on most of my thinking, but transgender kids in sports is fundamentally wrong and the fact that the LGBT community (and its supporters) just don't give a shit about everyone else on this issue weakens their cause overall. The far right and a lot of conservative folks have got it wrong, but too often, the far left and the LGBTQ community are just as guilty in their thinking on issues.

As far as the video that started this thread, old people bitching about the world going to hell in a hand basket is the oldest tale in human history. There are ways that our society has changed that aren't great and we could all use a little more introspection, but the truth is that there was a lot of terrible things that went on in the "good old days" that don't happen now that pedophiles, rapists, racists and other terrible people can't hide the way that they used to. Even if I hate how divisive the current times are, I would never trade what I have today for the "good old days".
Oh the trans issue will work its way out. Maybe they participate but in individual sports don't win place or show and have an asterisk by their name.

And the more I listen to the "hero" the more I bang my head against my desk. Right around the minute 20 mark I had to listen carefully. He said no one will be able to have the fun I had, no one will have the OPPORTUNITY that I had. That's gone.

What opportunity is he talking about and who is he talking about.
 
11....how long do you think the trial should have been to make them rigorous?
More than warp speed, that's for damn sure.

Trump either was in on the scam or his ego was too big and he wanted the glory of bringing the cure to the masses. Both could be true.
 
Everyone should watch this one. It makes you think......

Stretch since you posted it, please go back to about the minute 20 mark. This could be a learning moment for me. When he says this isn't what he fought for...that there won't be the ORPPORTUNITYY I had, what opportunity is he talking about, and what changed to limit the opportunities?
 
Man this and the other thread are getting surreal. WTH guys, we are all supposed to be Cougs.
We can all be Cougs.

We don't all have to agree that taking being mandated to take an injection fits our own personal variables. You do you. No problem with that. But don't tell me to do you. As the youngsters say "you don't know me".
 
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