Abandoning allies

[WillieThePimp]

These clowns are so balls deep for Trump, they are pot committed and will never see the light of day. All they can do at this point is keep doubling down on stupid.

I haven’t read much on what it was like for Germans who vehemently supported Hitler during his rise to power after his defeat. I suspect many crawled back into their holes and weren’t heard from again. I wonder if the Trumptards will do the same after he’s eventually outed and removed. The positive with how quickly it’s unraveling is well, how quickly it’s unraveling. His fate and those who played the Goebels role along side him is actually looking like it will come sooner than anyone expected.

As a young girl my mother-in-law lived under Nazi occupation in Luxembourg. People like Goober and the functionally illiterate lawyer were Nazi sympathizers during the war. She had cousins that were shunned by the rest of her family and society for their wartime activities. Luxembourg was/is a very civil place: in other countries the fate of these people could be far worse.

 

[WillieThePimp]

Damn, you are funny. Ever considered hitting the comedy club circuit?

Who’s being funny? I’m dead serious.

 

[Stretch 74]

NY Post? Perhaps you could link a hugely less partisan source.

Your TDS prompts you to continually feel the need to jump to the defense of this terrible human.

Stretch, help me understand how you (a seemingly fundamentally decent human) can support such an indecent human. No choice? Had to? No better candidates?

I wasn't aware that we had to run our sources past the Disinformation Committee for approval before posting. BTW, is the committee you, Coug90%, Simp Willie? BTW, note that the article was not all about kissing Trump's ass, it did include some of his problems, and it was about his work long before he was the president.

You guys struggle more understanding TDS than you would with a nuclear brain surgery text book.

FYI, I may answer this question that you raise. I have been mulling it over in my mind whether to give long, rational, informative answer to the question or just admit the reality that it won't make a ****ing bit of difference for the Orange Man Bad gang because they operate with horse blinders on and are incapable of processing any opinion that creates a miniscule bit of cognitive dissonance in their world. I'll let you know.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

So given that, do you and the other TDS folks here think it was a good idea, that it didn't break any political protocols, for Zelenskyy to come into the Oval Office and start trying to push for additional support from the US? That seems like a pretty stupid thing to do from my knothole.

Well, I suppose it would have worked with Joe or Kamala, byt Trump and Vance are both way smarter than those two chumps.

The second clear body language signal was after VZ had embarrassed himself by rudely talking over his host like he thought he was on a MSNBC talk show, the cameras caught the Ukrainian ambassador with her head in her hands, shaking her head with the realization how big of a cluster**** her boss was doing. It was classic!

Sometimes you amaze me. Trump and Vance's body language and words were way worse than Zelensky's.

And the guy is 3 years into a war. Of course he would ask for more aid. Wouldn't you?

And the "meeting" might have well been a talk show. Again - why was this open to reporters given the sensitive subject matter at hand? Zelensky should have just said no I won't have a press-filled meeting. That's why they have press conferences. Absolutely disgraceful performance by the USA. And oh, tell me about Rubio's body language. Like WTF did I do this for?

 

[dgibbons]

Sometimes you amaze me. Trump and Vance's body language and words were way worse than Zelensky's.

And the guy is 3 years into a war. Of course he would ask for more aid. Wouldn't you?

And the "meeting" might have well been a talk show. Again - why was this open to reporters given the sensitive subject matter at hand? Zelensky should have just said no I won't have a press-filled meeting. That's why they have press conferences. Absolutely disgraceful performance by the USA. And oh, tell me about Rubio's body language. Like WTF did I do this for?

It was the oval office presser photo op that we’ve seen many times. Why Trump didn’t clear the room when it heated up, I don’t know.

You’re forgetting that Zelenskyy has gotten everything or almost everything he’s wanted. He wanted ATACMS. Eventually got them. Then it was to launch them deep into Russia. And Patriot batteries, and eventually got them. And it was F-16s, and eventually got them.

But now he’s not getting something he wants- a security guaranty. Of course Zelenskyy is frustrated and desperate. But that doesn’t mean Ukraine gets whatever Zelenskyy asks for.

 

[UberCougars]

the "great negotiator" is out there giving up every negotiating point before he had his first meeting with Putin. Y'all keep talking about stopping the war because people are dying. By that logic, we should have told Europe to just surrender to Hitler because it would have stopped the killing. F#cking retarded comment to suggest that Ukrainians should surrender just because it's the easy thing to do.

Pretty sure you’re free to go die for Zelensky.




https://x.com/mericamemed/status/1895659480584753527?s=46

 

[95coug]

For those that might think that body language is telling, (I think a lot of poker players do) there were a couple things that stood out in today's scuffle. The first one was after VZ started off the shit show and JD started talking he leaned back and scowled, with his arms tightly crossed, giving off a strong signal that he didn't give a shit what was being said to him. Not really a good thing to do when you are invited onto someone else's home turf, and they are attempting to give you some urgently needed help.

The second clear body language signal was after VZ had embarrassed himself by rudely talking over his host like he thought he was on a MSNBC talk show, the cameras caught the Ukrainian ambassador with her head in her hands, shaking her head with the realization how big of a cluster**** her boss was doing. It was classic!

Or, the other interpretation:
Zelensky’s posture was defensive, and Vance’s forward lean, gestures in his direction, tone and volume were extremely aggressive.

Plus, he couldn’t get a word in as Vance & Trump kept talking over him. He kept a pretty even volume and seemed to try to maintain some decorum while his “hosts” went on the attack. His ambassador had her head in her hands because she couldn’t believe they’d been drawn into this ambush at the hands of a country that has stood for freedom & self-determination for a century…until a couple weeks ago.

 

[UberCougars]