lol... yeah, I got that. Something "with a racist tone", whatever that means.
Bust - Ryan Leaf Podcast
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One of two things
1. Davis campaigned too loudly for the All White uniform combo.
or
2. Kept asking Price how far he lived from Hayden Lake.
The QB "talent" left behind after Pattinson went down in 1993 was pretty horrid.
Just a barely competent game manager.
Im listening to this now. His high school experience… how the fuc$ do you have a kid that is a legit P5 kid and he isn’t on the field more early??? A kid with a fuc$ing 36” vertical leap doesn’t start until midway his junior year in basketball??? Then all of a sudden lights it up?
We aren’t talking about Mater Dei or De La Salle or St. Thomas Acquinas or Lake Travis or Allen or any big time high school in a huge metro area. Allen HS has like 6500 kids. We are talking about Great Falls middle of nowhere Montana.
It is abundantly clear he has done some shitty things to people. And all these people that did shitty things to him skate. The high school coaches that fuc$ed him. Trying to teach him a lesson based in their personal vendetta. What a shitty high school he went to. He isn’t the first kid to be a big fish in a small town with an ego. It’s amazing the lengths some high school coaches will go to to shit on a kid. You really just refused to play a kid because of his ego and attitude. What does that say about their ego and attitude???
He is spot on when he says Montana is an introvert state. He would have been better off somewhere else.
Dennis Erickson saying his recruiting coordinator saw him as a tight end or a linebacker. Fire that guy.
We aren’t talking about Mater Dei or De La Salle or St. Thomas Acquinas or Lake Travis or Allen or any big time high school in a huge metro area. Allen HS has like 6500 kids. We are talking about Great Falls middle of nowhere Montana.
It is abundantly clear he has done some shitty things to people. And all these people that did shitty things to him skate. The high school coaches that fuc$ed him. Trying to teach him a lesson based in their personal vendetta. What a shitty high school he went to. He isn’t the first kid to be a big fish in a small town with an ego. It’s amazing the lengths some high school coaches will go to to shit on a kid. You really just refused to play a kid because of his ego and attitude. What does that say about their ego and attitude???
He is spot on when he says Montana is an introvert state. He would have been better off somewhere else.
Dennis Erickson saying his recruiting coordinator saw him as a tight end or a linebacker. Fire that guy.
It's pretty clear you've never run a high school program. CM Russell is one of 'those' schools with a history and tradition pretty well unrivaled in Montana.
I can guarantee you, if a player acted like a complete ass at Gonzaga Prep, he wouldn't see the floor/field until he quit acting like a complete ass. The program was around long before the ass arrived and will be around long after the ass leaves. There's a culture and a tradition that overrides any number of stars or talent level - and it permeates the community and little kids look up to it, alums expect a certain standard of behavior and there's still old school honor.
Every single person I've ever spoken to said Ryan Leaf was a complete ass in high school. Worse than at WSU, worse than in the pros.
Respect the high school coach for at least trying to get Ryan to act like an adult. It's clear Ryan still hasn't come to grips or been blessed with any type of wisdom that he's responsible for 100% of his part in miserable relationships. Someone with personal responsibility would say they are 100% responsible for their 50% of a failed relationship. It takes two to make a thing go right. Ryan didn't do his part and apparently still doesn't.
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I get that you hate UW and all that. I'm thrilled that they sucked this year. That said, there was plenty of reason to think that UW would have a good season. As for your comments.....
The Stanford game was a red flag, but trash schedule or not, training in the park or not, the Cardinal went 4-2 in 2020. We knew that they might be bad but nobody "knew".
Utah lost the game so what does it matter what the halftime score was? Do we get some unofficial credit for a win against Utah State since we had a double digit lead in the fourth quarter?
On the OSU game, a win is a win. It's dangerous to look at the results of one game and make assumptions. We both beat OSU....does it really matter if it was 6 points or 10?
The mutts had a trash schedule this year and it's a testament to how terrible they were that they finished 4-8. However, given that the mutts had not finished with a losing record since 2009 and had gone 43-15 in the past five seasons, it was easy to assume that they wouldn't be trash this year. We are all glad that they ended up being terrible, but they shouldn't have been as bad as they were. And it's easy to assume that a bad season is proof that things are terrible. WSU went 4-7 in 2000 and got obliterated 51-3 in the Apple Cup. However, we had four close losses that hinted that things weren't as bad as they looked. The mutts had five losses by one score or less. As much as I hope that they continue to be terrible, it's arrogant and short sighted to assume that will be the case. Lake obviously wasn't up to the task...but then again, we'll never know if it was short term growing pains or not.
To be clear, that quote was preceded by "There were people who thought that...". That wasn't a direct quote from Leaf himself.
That being said, I don't remember that being the narrative around Manning at all, but its possible/ probably that the people surrounding Leaf were saying that.
I'll end up finishing the POD, but listening to the first three episode - and this could just be his delivery - but I just can't help feel that there is a sense of pride about what a shithead he was. I don't know how you communicate that with remorse or solemn reflection in your voice, but I feel like that would have been a better tone. Perhaps he was just trying to convey just how BIG of an asshat he was by interjecting enthusiasm into his story telling.
Not sure the bridges he's willing to burn, but he had no problem calling Mike Riley a pu$$y. Maybe he's friendly with Manning now, but it seems that in this format if he had felt that way he'd just have said it. I don't doubt that you're right, but curious how he'd put that off on other people.
I heard one mention of “cousin” in reference to a date. Then another mention of “cousins” in reference to “hanger ons”. I took the first the same way as you. Thought of the second mention as others. Maybe wishful thinking on my part. Or I don’t listen well.
Felt the same way. Then the tone changed. I’m through five episodes now.
I live in Montana and have run into several folks that knew him in high school. Every one of them has said he was a complete douche bag. Not one positive comment.
How about the fact that people in his hometown/ state voted him #3 for Heisman?
Also, you're right about the tone. I'm starting 5 and its changing.
Easy, but lazy.
One benefit of a Beav or Coug living amongst the UW rabble is alterting the UW Pollyannas on the bandwagon (and who eat up these 12-0 predictions) what the UW dissenters who have access to more info (and won't shut up) are saying is likely to happen.
(Another benefit: the fabulous press conferences that air locally whenever their female ADs have fired a coach. A possible preview of what a Kamala Harris presidency may provide.)
The UW had going into 2021
A know it all Paul Wulff protégé as head coach who had a brief time as a coordinator but had been part of a 1-11 UW team under Gilberston and the 0-16 Detroit Lions team and who reportedly shown an almost disdainful lack of interest in recruiting.
A disastrous OC search where they whiffed on several candidates & ended up hiring the assistant RB coach from a bad NFL franchise
A Waldenite hack as their new DC who didn't even want the job after the current DC (and also Lake's predecessor/mentor) Kwiatkowski fled to Texas
A bad QB
A history of players throwing in the towel when things got tough (the "bad culture" Cal LB Evan Weaver once cited )
FnuLnu, those are some great points. Honestly, I think if UW had even a decent OC, its season would have looked different. My main point re UW was how soft its schedule was this year. They had to be pretty awful not to win at least 8 games with that schedule, and indeed, they were. Seems like they have had a soft schedule for years. Gets tougher for them in 2022.
The easy schedules started with Sark and their then AD now down at LSU.
Ty was horrible and they had a player revolt on their hands in 2008, but his schedule was rather tough that year.
Narcissistic? No kidding. I recall his tweet after the tragic suicide of Tyler Hilinski. Something like "if only he would've called me before...!"
Uh..no Ryan. You weren't going to save Tyler. Likely no one could have. But the narcissism of Ryan to think he could have was just...wow.
Anyway, I wish him the best. I have nothing personal against him. Maybe he's become less narcissistic.
