Does freezing of Federal Aid affect our school
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Oh thought someone who professed to know everything about anything would have a clear cut answer. So good to know you only pretend to know about everything. Biggs as limited as he is pegged you ...
This concerns all schools that rely on those research grants. Since the freeze was announced the HHS Secretary has since said that the directive would be in effect through February 1st. We should learn soon if the freeze is extended or goes away.
Just saw this but, a federal judge stopped the freeze.
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Live updates: Federal judge temporarily blocks Trump's federal funding freeze
A federal judge has temporarily blocked a Trump administration freeze on federal grants and loans that could total trillions of dollars and cause disruptions in health care research, education programs and other initiatives.
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Much as I despise Trump, I'm not that upset with a review of federal grants in general. Having spent most of my career in Higher Ed, and having directly worked on multiple federal grant proposals and the subsequent spending and reporting, I would often shake my head at the millions annually that are handed out to various programs.Just saw this but, a federal judge stopped the freeze.
Live updates: Federal judge temporarily blocks Trump's federal funding freeze
A federal judge has temporarily blocked a Trump administration freeze on federal grants and loans that could total trillions of dollars and cause disruptions in health care research, education programs and other initiatives.
Look at my alma mater. After what - 20+ years - what contributions to society has Shock Physics provided to us? And much as I have enjoyed visiting our Grizzly bear population, we have been researching them for DECADES. What tangible societal benefits has that brought us? And how many (hint: lots) Universities have wheat breeding and research units, each garnering millions every year to do (IMHO) probably about the same thing?
So yeah, a review is OK with me. Pell Grants and the student loan program? Different subject........
I have ZERO issues with a massive review on everything top to bottom of expenses and programs at WSU.
Who needs scientists anyways when we have Google? Let’s cut off all funding for Avian vaccine funding.Just saw this but, a federal judge stopped the freeze.
Live updates: Federal judge temporarily blocks Trump's federal funding freeze
A federal judge has temporarily blocked a Trump administration freeze on federal grants and loans that could total trillions of dollars and cause disruptions in health care research, education programs and other initiatives.
Meanwhile the average price of eggs has reached a new record high under Donald J Trump’s watch.
Yeah!!! Like we need to take a long hard look at how much $$$ WSU is spending on litter and litter boxes for all the those furry students!
It’s because they splurge on the expensive clumping litter when they should be using that cheap wood pellet stuff.
Just because you're lazy doesn't mean everyone else is. You obviously have time on your hands and internet access. Get to work.
Not only that but I hear it’s organic carbon-neutral non-clumping litter to boot.
Gee, that's a bummer. Perhaps you can explain how that is Trump's fault. Maybe using some good algebraic equations can help with that, just make sure you start about January 1, 2022.
GOF has legitimate merits. Not the boogeyman you seem to think. But u know...Joe Rogan and all
Did I say he was at fault? That’s Trump Derangement Syndrome in practice for you - blindly defending Il Duce and a complete inability to look at him critically.
“When I win, I will immediately bring prices down, starting on Day One,”
Hyperbolic statement for sure but this proclaims that this is a priority campaign promise despite what his personal fluffer Lady Graham has stated.
So what has your dear leader done or what plans does he have in place to bring financial relief to the masses? If anything his threats of tariffs only threaten harm to the masses. People are really hurting financially.. Other than delivering a shitstorm of chaos what is he doing to help lift up your average hard working Americans? He’s certainly got his billionaire boys club covered.
So what? Biden taught us judges orders are irrelevant and can be ignored by Presidents.Just saw this but, a federal judge stopped the freeze.
Live updates: Federal judge temporarily blocks Trump's federal funding freeze
A federal judge has temporarily blocked a Trump administration freeze on federal grants and loans that could total trillions of dollars and cause disruptions in health care research, education programs and other initiatives.
What’s funny is that OMB released a detailed memo regarding this executive action more than 2 hours before Ed posted his “concerns”.
Leads me to believe Ed was either lazy or just doing his part to advance the Dems narrative.
From OMB:
Any payment required by law to be paid will be paid without interruption or delay.
Q: Is this a freeze on all Federal financial assistance?
A: No, the pause does not apply across-the-board. It is expressly limited to programs, projects, and activities implicated by the President's Executive Orders, such as ending DEI, the green new deal, and funding nongovernmental organizations that undermine the national interest.
Q: Is this a freeze on benefits to Americans like SNAP or student loans?
A: No, any program that provides direct benefits to Americans is explicitly excluded from the pause and exempted from this review process. In addition to Social Security and Medicare, already explicitly excluded in the guidance, mandatory programs like Medicaid and SNAP will continue without pause.
Funds for small businesses, farmers, Pell grants, Head Start, rental assistance, and other similar programs will not be paused. If agencies are concerned that these programs may implicate the President's Executive Orders, they should consult OMB to begin to unwind these objectionable policies without a pause in the payments.
Leads me to believe Ed was either lazy or just doing his part to advance the Dems narrative.
From OMB:
Any payment required by law to be paid will be paid without interruption or delay.
Q: Is this a freeze on all Federal financial assistance?
A: No, the pause does not apply across-the-board. It is expressly limited to programs, projects, and activities implicated by the President's Executive Orders, such as ending DEI, the green new deal, and funding nongovernmental organizations that undermine the national interest.
Q: Is this a freeze on benefits to Americans like SNAP or student loans?
A: No, any program that provides direct benefits to Americans is explicitly excluded from the pause and exempted from this review process. In addition to Social Security and Medicare, already explicitly excluded in the guidance, mandatory programs like Medicaid and SNAP will continue without pause.
Funds for small businesses, farmers, Pell grants, Head Start, rental assistance, and other similar programs will not be paused. If agencies are concerned that these programs may implicate the President's Executive Orders, they should consult OMB to begin to unwind these objectionable policies without a pause in the payments.
Nobody is hurting financially because Biden created the best economy ever.
Eggs don’t produce eggs, chickens do. It’s takes longer than one week for a chicken to hatch. Once hatched it takes 24 weeks or more before eggs are produced. 24 weeks is longer than one week. Hope this helps. If not, I can simplify this post for you. Just let me know.
The problem with Trump, which has always been his problem, is that he always takes everything too far and he routinely ignores his promises to lower income people.
I do appreciate his inability for hyperbole though. On the recent BS resignation offer that went out, Trump's people are saying that up to 10% of the government's 2.3 million federal employees will take the offer....saving the country up to $100 billion. Now...if you run a little math, 10% of 2.3 million is 230,000 people. If you take $100 billion, that amounts to a savings of $435,000 per employee. The fact sheet implies that it's a per year number...but that's obviously bullsh!t. But then again....that's the MAGA hype machine. Take facts, twist them to your advantage even if they are no longer accurate... throw them out there anyway. Even if that number is real....crippling our government is only going to reduce federal spending by $100 billion, which is 1.5% of our annual budget. #winning has never looked dumber.
The best part is hearing him talk about restarting his stupid wall project. Two Mexicans with a Sawzall and a ladder can circumvent the wall, but lets spend hundreds of billions and destroy habitats for a vanity project. The good news is that wall is definitely going to lower our grocery prices and other costs. Wasting billions of dollars on steel surely can't have an inflationary impact on the cost of steel for other projects. And surely getting rid of all those illegal immigrants working in low income jobs is going to make our food cheaper.
The f#cking morons that buy into his hype machine make me sad. It does however prove that 50% of people are dumber than average and most of them voted for Trump.
Just keep placing all your trust in the JRE and all the snake oil salesman he platforms. Taihtsat
Stick to the subject. Notwithstanding your clear case of FauciDS, do you dispute that GOF has merit?
I thought you'd be loving this. You get four years of tantrums and lots of opportunities to post nonsense about hypocrisy as if Trump and Republicans are the only president and party to take credit for things.
BTW, Biden built the best economy in the world. I heard him say so himself lots of times. And that must have happened between the laps he was doing around his much younger staff members. Now, you may ask "Did Biden inherit the best economy in the world?" And yes, he did. So, by his own admission he didn't accomplish anything. And the Bidenomics inflation really hurt working class people, which is a big part of why those voters abandoned the Ds in the 2024 election.
Your choice of words creates an incredibly low bar. So, put your Superman underoos on and be a big boy. Sure, gain of function could have merit. It could also wipe out the human race. Fauci doesn't get to decide whether it happens or not. Go ahead and show us the scientific community has reached a consensus that gain of function research should occur.
Here are some other things that could have merit-bypassing gain of function restrictions and sending funding to China, not bypassing gain of function restrictions and not sending funding to China, building a wall at the southern border, not building a wall at the southern border, lowering federal income tax rates, raising federal income tax rates. Add more to the list if you chose.
Lets not forget the labs in Ukraine. Oh and the guilt is real when you have a president passing out preemptive pardons like a Democratic child predator passing out candy from a van on the sidewalk in front of a school. I remember a time when the mouthpieces for the Rats (media) & the Rats themselves screaming from the rooftops that if a president is passing out pardons, you must be guilty of something.... circa 2020. Funny how these tards keep doing the very thing they accuse everyone else of doing.
Did Biden "inherit the best economy in the world"? The answer is arguably yes....but only because the rest of the world was in the same sh!thole economic situation we were in.
What's hilarious about the whole economy argument is that outside of inflation....the economy under Biden was good in 2021, 2022 and 2023. The average growth in GDP over Biden's first three years was 3.4%. The average growth in the first three years under Trump was 2.6%. If Trump was President from 2021 to 2024, the same people complaining about the Biden economy would have been bragging about the GDP growth and continued low unemployment and would have been losing their minds in anger over the audacity of the Fed to defy the dear leader and raise interest rates. They'd be arguing that inflation was a necessary byproduct of the growth...and you'd blame the Democrats for everything that someone needed to take the fall for.
What's going to be funny to watch in the next two years is all the voters who switched to Trump in 2024 realize that they got duped and see a blue wave come in 2026. FWIW, I don't necessarily look forward to seeing liberals thinking that they won something because of their ideals and deluding themselves into thinking that they have a "mandate" because some of their policies are dumber than Trumps. But it's still going to be funny to watch the country grow to hate Trump in the next two years. He's a moron that feeds off emotion and hype and his policies always create more losers than winners.....and it's his base that gets hit the hardest. Good thing for him is that he's already marketing "short term pain....long term gain" to try to explain the negative impacts that people are going to be feeling.
Well, while we’re going down that road Trump certainly inherited the best economy in the world as well. So what? In fact most presidents in recent memory, save for a couple of crises, have inherited the best economy in the world.
Kind of a stupid argument.
My response was to O11 regarding (what I interpreted as a sarcastic dig at GOF research).
Your response to me invoked fauci because you have FDS.
I'm pleased to learn you also feel GOF has merit. Nowhere did I claim it also didn't have risks. Now that we've settled that.... taihtsat
So, you're declining the invitation to show us the scientific community has reached consensus that gain of function research should occur, and admitting that your post was total crap. Thank you.
Did you at least put on some underwear?
I agree completely. The US is going to be the best economy in the world for the foreseeable future so the argument that Trump did something special was dumb. My other comment was that in terms of GDP growth (a big talking point of Trump in his first term), the economy was better under Bident than with Trump V1. Everyone who loves Trump would have ignored inflation if the Cheeto was in office instead.
"Arguably yes" tells us that your head is far, far, up your backside. Plus, you're basically saying if you ignore the gunshot wound to your chest, you're quite healthy. Average YOY inflation was 5.2 percent under Biden. Nominal wage growth was below that. So, that means real wages decreased, and a lot of Americans felt it as they were sliding backwards during his presidency.
You must have missed the media and talking head bullshitters talking about the wonderful GDP growth and stupendous unemployment rate Bidenomics had given the country.
And gee whiz, you're predicting a swing at the mid-terms? Oh my! Took a lot of courage to venture out onto that sturdy limb. Get a Powerball ticket today!
From the 2017 fiscal year to the 2020 fiscal year, total federal spending in the United States was:
- **2017**: $3.98 trillion
- **2018**: $4.11 trillion
- **2019**: $4.45 trillion
- **2020**: $6.55 trillion
**Total for the period (2017-2020)**: Approximately **$19.09 trillion**.
Here are the approximate figures for total federal spending from fiscal year 2021 to 2024:
- **2021**: $6.82 trillion
- **2022**: $6.27 trillion
- **2023**: $6.13 trillion (estimated)
- **2024**: $6.95 trillion (projected)
**Total for the period (2021-2024)**: Approximately **$26.17 trillion**.
Please note that the figures for 2023 and 2024 are based on estimates and projections, which can vary based on actual economic conditions, legislative changes, and other factors.
- **2017**: $3.98 trillion
- **2018**: $4.11 trillion
- **2019**: $4.45 trillion
- **2020**: $6.55 trillion
**Total for the period (2017-2020)**: Approximately **$19.09 trillion**.
Here are the approximate figures for total federal spending from fiscal year 2021 to 2024:
- **2021**: $6.82 trillion
- **2022**: $6.27 trillion
- **2023**: $6.13 trillion (estimated)
- **2024**: $6.95 trillion (projected)
**Total for the period (2021-2024)**: Approximately **$26.17 trillion**.
Please note that the figures for 2023 and 2024 are based on estimates and projections, which can vary based on actual economic conditions, legislative changes, and other factors.
I don't need to. That wasn't part of any assertion on my part. Again, you read (more like "read in") poorly.
Now, if you're asking ME if I think there is clear-cut consensus on the risk/benefit part among researchers...I'd say probs not. Taihtsat
What was inflation around the world? As if this was just a US problem.
You’re doing the same thing as those who blamed Covid and the crashing of the economy on Trump.
There’s plenty of arguments to be made that both guys could have handled things better. Although only one of us is arguing that that one of these guys is some sort of economy miracle worker. He’s not. He’s a small cog in the giant wheel of the global economy and he’s done nothing special for the U.S. Hell he surfed Obama's economic wave for the first couple of years.
Talk about ignoring gunshot wounds...Trump presided over the highest unemployment rate, jobs loss and gdp decline in...oh, I'd say 85 years. Other than that...yeah, great
