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The announcement did not say there was no freshmen on campus housing. Freshmen were encouraged to stay at home.
Hmmmm... sounds like one would have to have a compelling reason to live on campus ....“open as planned. University-owned residence halls will open August 15, but only for those students who have a demonstrated institutional need and are approved to live on campus.“
Unfortunately, if this doesn’t change next year, we are going to encourage our daughter to skip Wazzu and consider community college for her freshman year and then pick a school closer to home.
Being in Pullman and immersed in the environment is what makes WSU special. Being involved in things as a freshman is how I developed many of the friendships that I still have today.
With us living so far away, I would not want her first experience at Wazzu to be as a sophomore in an apartment. We’ll see what happens but this is seriously disappointing news from our perspective.
Being in Pullman and immersed in the environment is what makes WSU special. Being involved in things as a freshman is how I developed many of the friendships that I still have today.
With us living so far away, I would not want her first experience at Wazzu to be as a sophomore in an apartment. We’ll see what happens but this is seriously disappointing news from our perspective.
Like Ed and Flat, my daughter will be a freshman at Wazzu this fall. She called me yesterday afternoon almost in tears. Probably going to come live with me in Spokane after harvest is done in Odessa and we'll play it by ear moving forward.
Upon reflection though, her class has been through some tough stuff so far so in a way why expect they're first year of college to be any different?
On a lighter note, we were talking about a way to demonstrate a "compelling need" to either live in the dorms or rent an apartment and decided the best tact would be to play the "I live in Odessa Wa for God's sake...help! Have mercy!" card.
Upon reflection though, her class has been through some tough stuff so far so in a way why expect they're first year of college to be any different?
On a lighter note, we were talking about a way to demonstrate a "compelling need" to either live in the dorms or rent an apartment and decided the best tact would be to play the "I live in Odessa Wa for God's sake...help! Have mercy!" card.
What about taking a year off and working? Folks are working until they are 70 these days...a year of maturity and exploring ain't a bad thing
And yes, it does suck that your daughter is a freshman this year...but it will get better.Insert joke about sending your daughters to live with me here ——> _____________.
Looking at moving to Phoenix in the fall. They’ll love it there! lol
Looking at moving to Phoenix in the fall. They’ll love it there! lol
If this was me, I would 100% defer a year. As we all know, a huge portion of the college experience is being on campus and experiencing all those things.
Really sorry to hear many of you have your own kids experiencing that - I would be pretty heartbroken too.
EDIT: 79, Flat, Ed - if at some point all your daughters become friends with each other, imagine the gift of WazzuWatch watch parties, lol
Really sorry to hear many of you have your own kids experiencing that - I would be pretty heartbroken too.
EDIT: 79, Flat, Ed - if at some point all your daughters become friends with each other, imagine the gift of WazzuWatch watch parties, lol
Deferring is an option, but who knows if things will truly be back to normal? The shutdown strategy just kicks the can down the road, it doesn't cure the disease, build immunity or anything else, other than keep hospitals from getting overwhelmed. Is a vaccine that is around 45 percent effective (the 2019 flu vaccine was 45% effective against Influenza A and B) administered next summer going to be a magical cure, and all is then well?
Live at home and save money. Put it in a retirement fund and watch it grow with time. $5000 in an account when you’re 18 will grow to a Butt Load.
We're big Coug fans, with our son just graduated. No ceremony in May of Aug. When they cancelled Aug. I cried for two days. Here's to your daughter have a great Cougar experience- somehow, someway.
On a happier note, we're moving to Phoenix also; currently snow-birds. . getting the ^&%3@! out of the Seattle area.
From what I read there are of of 5 criteria that must be met. ROTC, ADA, don't have wifi at home, and two others that my daughter does not meet. She really wants me to look at off campus living as she really wants to go to Pullman.
Whatever happened to assumption of the risk. Don't compel anyone to go or teach, but if you don't see much threat to you or others in your family, sign a release and go to school/teach. This is a virus that killed only > 00.06% (virtually all geriatrics or the chronically ill) in a country that kept schools open.
My son is in the same boat, essentially. Wants to complete an automotive engineering degree. Transferring to Cal Poly was his only desire because they have a open wheel racing club and program. Was recently advised that it will all be on-line. Tough to build, work on and race an open wheel race car virtually.
My son is in the same boat, essentially. Wants to complete an automotive engineering degree. Transferring to Cal Poly was his only desire because they have a open wheel racing club and program. Was recently advised that it will all be on-line. Tough to build, work on and race an open wheel race car virtually.
Ed & 79Coug,
I sincerely hope your daughters get to have that on-campus experience in Pullman sooner rather than later. At the very least, perhaps the scenario will be more positive second semester. You have my best wishes---losing perhaps the best part of their senior year of high school only to be denied the full experience their freshman year of college is a difficult one-two punch to absorb.
Glad Cougar
I sincerely hope your daughters get to have that on-campus experience in Pullman sooner rather than later. At the very least, perhaps the scenario will be more positive second semester. You have my best wishes---losing perhaps the best part of their senior year of high school only to be denied the full experience their freshman year of college is a difficult one-two punch to absorb.
Glad Cougar
My oldest really liked Cal Poly. Whole family really liked the area.
We could sign a waiver, but my guess is 10% of parents would be willing to send their kids into a dorm, which kind of defeats the purpose of campus living if 1/10th of the students are in campus living.
Glad thanks for your thoughts.
I kind of set my daughter up for this possibility. It is a tough one two punch but I hope I did a decent enough job of preparing her and letting her know high school was done in March, that there more than likely would not be graduation and prom, but we can try to make the best out a crappy situation. I also gave her some historical perspective that my generation never really endured anything like this, so I don't have all the answers. But I do know people in WWII for example who didn't get to finish classes or go off to college, and the same in the 60's. I also told her that 2021 could be a do over if it needs to be. We will see how all these kids do with the temporary new normal.
What about taking a year off and working? Folks are working until they are 70 these days...a year of maturity and exploring ain't a bad thing
My son started college last fall and is considering taking a year away to work and/or take some CC classes. It's important to him to get the "campus college experience" and he seems willing to wait to see what happens over the next year. I definitely think it pretty much sucks for him but all things considered it's far from the worst thing in the world even though at that age it can definitely feel like it.
Got to believe its way more than 10 percent. Thinking it is more like 70 to 80 percent. You were planning to send your daughter, right? To date, not a single person 18 or younger has died from Covid-19 in California, and no hospitalization either, for anyone without a comorbidity like cystitis fibrosis. We elected to have our youngest return to high school, if they go ahead. Would have no qualms sending my middle son to Cal Poly either. I wouldn't have them french kiss old people, though. The issue hear doesn't seem to be the parents, it is the Teacher's union. If their is a risk it is with the teachers approach retirement.
But them again, I graduated from WSU, so panicked and magical thinking isn't my thing.
I felt the "campus college experience" was important in my own personal development and I met many lifetime friends during my time at WSU.
I really feel for the kids going into their freshman year (and graduating this year) or starting their big college experience. I remember it seems like yesterday I was going to my "Alive!" before my freshman year....11 years ago...time flies.
Gap years are almost obligatory in the UK, why kids here don't it more is hard to understand. My high strung daughter flat out refused, only to concede later that she wished she had. Nothing like getting inundated with assignments.
It's easy to get tunnel vision. I honestly don't know why it's not more common to take a gap year here in the states. There is absolutely no rush. When I was at WSU I knew someone who told me to stay in school as long as you could (he was actually from India come to think of it). In this environment I doubt delaying graduation is going to hurt anyone.
The other part of this that really sucks is the compounded problem with Inslee extending the rent moratorium until October. Many students have signed leases for this fall, and with the announcement, may now try to get out of those leases. And with the massive changes in the rental laws last summer, landlords only get to keep 25% of the move-in deposit.
So, now we have hundreds (thousands?) of landlords who had their property off the market for months, now losing that revenue with basically nothing to keep during the time they search for a replacement.
We own a rental in Pullman. So far our tenants have not invoked any of Inslee's protections and have been paying rent. I don't know who the new tenants are or if they will even show up. But my wife and I are prepared to severely tighten our financial belts to cover the mortgage on the property if that occurs ....
And mortgage forbearance is only available to federally backed loans (and as far as I can tell, only for primary residences). So how many landlords will go into foreclosure this fall when the students aren't there paying rent, so they can pay the mortgage? Sounds like there might some really good deals coming up on rental properties....
So, now we have hundreds (thousands?) of landlords who had their property off the market for months, now losing that revenue with basically nothing to keep during the time they search for a replacement.
We own a rental in Pullman. So far our tenants have not invoked any of Inslee's protections and have been paying rent. I don't know who the new tenants are or if they will even show up. But my wife and I are prepared to severely tighten our financial belts to cover the mortgage on the property if that occurs ....
And mortgage forbearance is only available to federally backed loans (and as far as I can tell, only for primary residences). So how many landlords will go into foreclosure this fall when the students aren't there paying rent, so they can pay the mortgage? Sounds like there might some really good deals coming up on rental properties....
The eviction/foreclosure bubble is building. Kicking the can down the road is not helping, IMO.
Yep. Almost like they think landlords are greedy, slimy folk who treat all their tenants like slime while they rake in their millions ....
Taking a gap year this fall makes a lot of sense for students, although opportunities are severely reduced. Taking a gap year this fall is an absolute disaster for colleges. There are some really famous, prestigious colleges and universities that will not survive this recession. Hopefully there will be enough upperclassmen (and women) that will stick with their colleges so the colleges will be there when the class of 2020 enrolls.
My son will still be living on campus this fall as a freshman and attending classes remotely. Our internet is spotty and on-line isn’t a good option for him from rural Montana. He will at least have somewhat of a normal college experience (e.g. leaving home, around other students in similar situations as his).
Getting to this spot over the last few days was an emotional roller coaster and now we feel a huge sense of relief.
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Yes. Don’t you remember my excited post from almost a year ago
Is he living in a dorm?
I've lived in PHX for 11 years, I'd advise going somewhere else if you want out of Seattle. The summers suck and go on forever, and its pretty boring. We are looking to away within the year.
I have to think there will be a lot of students in Pullman taking classes online. They will all be itching to get out of Mom’s basement and back to as close to a normal college life as you can get in a pandemic. I guess the profs will be safe but I’d venture to guess Covid will run through the students like shyt through a goose.
Are the fraternities and sororities shut down too?
I believe that students in rentals will likely be on campus. That is their decision to make but I believe you are correct in that they will be chomping at the bit to get out of their parent’s homes.
University owned apartments are still open. So those may be similar to privately owned rentals.
First year students are still required to live in dorms. They will not be allowed to live in fraternities or sororities. The live in requirement has been amended to include a student’s parent’s home. With that said, to live in a dorm a student must attest that they meet one of several conditions that would prohibit them from successfully studying from their family home. For us, our internet is just too damn unstable. Getting through WSU Alive on line was a cast iron bitch for my son.
Not sure if the fraternities and sororities will be open or not. My gut tells me that they will as they are not owned by the university. That is just a guess on my part.
I live in the PHX valley with my wife and love it. So much to do we never get to it all. There is hiking, biking, college and pro sports, weather for a swim pool 5-6 mos a year, boating at Lake Pleasant,professional auto racing, amateur club car racing which I do once a month Sept - May. We have a second home in Pullman so we miss the heat in July thru Sept. I can’t imagine living anywhere else but AZ. Also one last thing, it’s super clean and safe where we live.
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