Huge June arrival verbal

[CougPatrol]

Sounds like we just landed a verbal by the name of Ethan O'Connor who is none other than Jason David's nephew. 6'1 / 170lb "athlete" who is expected to play cornerback.

Kid is a UCLA decommit with offers from the likes of Georgia, Alabama, Penn State, USC, LSU, Colorado, and UW.

 

[chugspig]

Nice get. There was another kid too, an end who was lightly recruited.

 

[PeteTheChop]

Sounds like we just landed a verbal by the name of Ethan O'Connor who is none other than Jason David's nephew. 6'1 / 170lb "athlete" who is expected to play cornerback.

Kid is a UCLA decommit with offers from the likes of Georgia, Alabama, Penn State, USC, LSU, Colorado, and UW.

Big-time get by CJD and the staff!

 

[mikalalas]

Sounds like we just landed a verbal by the name of Ethan O'Connor who is none other than Jason David's nephew. 6'1 / 170lb "athlete" who is expected to play cornerback.

Kid is a UCLA decommit with offers from the likes of Georgia, Alabama, Penn State, USC, LSU, Colorado, and UW.

3.5 star, 4 star, 4.5 star POTENTIAL LOCKDOWN NFL CORNER in the making. AWESOME get.

 

[mikalalas]

CJD, Smith proving that can beat out blue bloods for 4,5 stars, that can recruit awesomely at WSU, IF WSU has the RIGHT HC's, coaching staff, winning seasons, etc, IF a WSU HC like a CJD, Smith BUILDS it.

 

[mikalalas]

CJD, Smith proving that can beat out blue bloods for 4,5 stars, that can recruit awesomely at WSU, IF WSU has the RIGHT HC's, coaching staff, winning seasons, etc, IF a WSU HC like a CJD, Smith BUILDS it.

WHEN WSU wins 5,6,7,8 wins, and probably 7,8, 7.5 wins as the line, then CJD will probably recruit even more of, and even better then these type of recruits.

So this season is the KEY, CRITICAL season.

If WSU, CJD only wins 3,4,5 wins, then while he will get at least 1 more year, and wouldn't be fired, with NIL + Portal, CJD won't be able to recruit well enough to win, despite his good X's and O's coaching.

But if WSU, CJD wins 7,8,9 wins, this season, then WSU, CJD will probably not only win 9,10,11, recruit well, after that, but would be able to reload, win at least 6,7,8 every season.

But if CJD only gets 2,3,4 wins this season, then CJD, will probably have a 4,5,6 win ceiling almost every year, and won't recruit well enough to win.

But CJD will probably win 6,7,8,9 wins this coming season, and probably will continue to recruit well.

That said, this season is still at least a semi critical season.

 

[kougkurt]

Nice get. There was another kid too, an end who was lightly recruited.

Just picked up a Colorado DT transfer also

 

[SaveFerris]

Just picked up a Colorado DT transfer also

6'2" 305. Some much needed size in the middle.

 

[79COUG]

Nice article here on O'Connor and why he chose Wazzu...

Former UCLA commit Ethan O’Connor is headed to Washington State, breaks down decision

247sports.com

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Nice article here on O'Connor and why he chose Wazzu...

Former UCLA commit Ethan O’Connor is headed to Washington State, breaks down decision

247sports.com

Nice article. WSU is a special place. But his quote worries me a little.

“I think leaving home and getting away will be good for me. I think it will help me really focus in and not have any distractions. I’m not really a big party guy, I just want to focus on school and football and I think Washington State is a great place to do that.”

It all sounds good except for the "not really a big party guy" part. He'll have some learning to do.....

 

[79COUG]

Nice article. WSU is a special place. But his quote worries me a little.

“I think leaving home and getting away will be good for me. I think it will help me really focus in and not have any distractions. I’m not really a big party guy, I just want to focus on school and football and I think Washington State is a great place to do that.”

It all sounds good except for the "not really a big party guy" part. He'll have some learning to do.....

Yea that one made me do a double take as well. However I'm sure he's probably had a chat with his uncle regarding good ol Wazzu and the temptations ahead of him 🤪

 

[CougPatrol]

Nice article. WSU is a special place. But his quote worries me a little.

“I think leaving home and getting away will be good for me. I think it will help me really focus in and not have any distractions. I’m not really a big party guy, I just want to focus on school and football and I think Washington State is a great place to do that.”

It all sounds good except for the "not really a big party guy" part. He'll have some learning to do.....

WSU has changed a lot since most of us older Cougs were on campus. There's still a lot of partying going on, but it's nothing like it was back in the 80s and 90s. The academic profile of the University has improved significantly over the past 20 years, and in tune, so have the student body demographics.

I just had several nieces and nephews graduate 2-3 years ago. One of my nephews was in the greek system and was a bit of a partier, but he also graduated Summa cum laude with a 3.91 in finance. I joke with him that my BAC was the same as his GPA. I can't remember which house he was in, but it was one of the bigger ones. He said they partied hard on the weekends, but they were pretty strict about maintaining your grades. All of his buddies were strong students.

My niece was also in a house, but it was more of a nerdy one. They partied some, but it was very mellow and academically focused. My other nephew stayed in the dorms and most of the guys there were gamers, not partiers. Their weekends were spent ordering pizza and playing Call of Duty. I'm talking like the entire floor of the dorm.

The days of driving to Moscow to buy booze as a 19 year old ended a long time ago. WSU gets unfairly dragged down as a party school because of its past reputation. The culture on campus is pretty tame now.

 

[CougPatrol]

6'2" 305. Some much needed size in the middle.

Really happy to see this signing. Seems like more of a depth player, but he's experienced and will be leaned on for sure.

 

[cr8zyncalif]

Nose guard material. Haven't had one of those in a while, but he might give us some short yardage options for a 5 man front. I saw one school (don't remember which one) run a 5 man front with a nickel and MLB last year for some situations...I'd never seen that before, but it seemed to be effective when they used it.

 

[79COUG]

WSU has changed a lot since most of us older Cougs were on campus. There's still a lot of partying going on, but it's nothing like it was back in the 80s and 90s. The academic profile of the University has improved significantly over the past 20 years, and in tune, so have the student body demographics.

I just had several nieces and nephews graduate 2-3 years ago. One of my nephews was in the greek system and was a bit of a partier, but he also graduated Summa cum laude with a 3.91 in finance. I joke with him that my BAC was the same as his GPA. I can't remember which house he was in, but it was one of the bigger ones. He said they partied hard on the weekends, but they were pretty strict about maintaining your grades. All of his buddies were strong students.

My niece was also in a house, but it was more of a nerdy one. They partied some, but it was very mellow and academically focused. My other nephew stayed in the dorms and most of the guys there were gamers, not partiers. Their weekends were spent ordering pizza and playing Call of Duty. I'm talking like the entire floor of the dorm.

The days of driving to Moscow to buy booze as a 19 year old ended a long time ago. WSU gets unfairly dragged down as a party school because of its past reputation. The culture on campus is pretty tame now.

My daughter is a junior right now. She gave up partying after her freshman year thank God. She lost several "friends" at the time due to her decision. But she'll graduate on time and move on to law school.

 

[BiggsCoug]

His HS film is strong, for whatever that is worth now. His HS, if memory serves, hasn’t had a lot if kids go to WSU. It is definitely a program you want talent from.

I think the CU kids are branded unfairly. Going 1-11 isn’t all on the kids. It’s everything in the program being bad. Some of these kids are gonna go on to other schools and be successful.

 

[CougPatrol]

His HS film is strong, for whatever that is worth now. His HS, if memory serves, hasn’t had a lot if kids go to WSU. It is definitely a program you want talent from.

I think the CU kids are branded unfairly. Going 1-11 isn’t all on the kids. It’s everything in the program being bad. Some of these kids are gonna go on to other schools and be successful.

His offer list of out high school wasn't terrible. Minnesota, Boston College, Oregon State, Colorado. WSU is a great opportunity for him.

 

[PeteTheChop]

WSU has changed a lot since most of us older Cougs were on campus. There's still a lot of partying going on, but it's nothing like it was back in the 80s and 90s. The academic profile of the University has improved significantly over the past 20 years, and in tune, so have the student body demographics.

I just had several nieces and nephews graduate 2-3 years ago. One of my nephews was in the greek system and was a bit of a partier, but he also graduated Summa cum laude with a 3.91 in finance. I joke with him that my BAC was the same as his GPA. I can't remember which house he was in, but it was one of the bigger ones. He said they partied hard on the weekends, but they were pretty strict about maintaining your grades. All of his buddies were strong students.

My niece was also in a house, but it was more of a nerdy one. They partied some, but it was very mellow and academically focused. My other nephew stayed in the dorms and most of the guys there were gamers, not partiers. Their weekends were spent ordering pizza and playing Call of Duty. I'm talking like the entire floor of the dorm.

The days of driving to Moscow to buy booze as a 19 year old ended a long time ago. WSU gets unfairly dragged down as a party school because of its past reputation. The culture on campus is pretty tame now.

Patrol,

Do you think Schultz and his administration's emphasis on academics over all else is a key factor in the recent enrollment drop?

I certainly couldn't have gotten into WSU or any other top college as a high school senior.

But with the way the university seems to be trending, they probably wouldn't even bother sending a rejection letter to a kid with my academic "credentials" (unless I was a blue-chip athlete or a close relative was a big booster).

Simply put, has the bar been raised too high?

 

[PeteTheChop]

That said, this season is still at least a semi critical season.

Mik,

Just imo, but CJD deserves at least two more seasons before he can judged a grand slam, a walk or a three-pitch strikeout (or, likely, somewhere in between).

How about we let Schultz and Chun get their IPF built (as well as locker room improvements CJD says are necessary) and wait for the Cougar Collective to establish its footing in the very competitive NIL space.

Those two things could provide Coach Dickert a leg up in the college football "arms race"

 

[cr8zyncalif]

6'2" 305. Some much needed size in the middle.

His HS film is strong, for whatever that is worth now. His HS, if memory serves, hasn’t had a lot if kids go to WSU. It is definitely a program you want talent from.

I think the CU kids are branded unfairly. Going 1-11 isn’t all on the kids. It’s everything in the program being bad. Some of these kids are gonna go on to other schools and be successful.

As you've been known to say, Coaching Matters. CU definitely had a coaching failure. Some of the kids were also probably not up to par, but when you have a coaching failure, everybody gets tarred with the same brush.

 

[BiggsCoug]

His offer list of out high school wasn't terrible. Minnesota, Boston College, Oregon State, Colorado. WSU is a great opportunity for him.

He shoved kids out of the way with ease. I dunno why he didnt have more Pac 12 offers.

 

[BiggsCoug]

As you've been known to say, Coaching Matters. CU definitely had a coaching failure. Some of the kids were also probably not up to par, but when you have a coaching failure, everybody gets tarred with the same brush.

Over the last 15 years, who has had overall better classes, WSU or CU? CU is failing the kids from the inside out. The admin is bad.

 

[Coug90]

Now just need a transfer QB who throws a good bubble screen

 

[BiggsCoug]

Now just need a transfer QB who throws a good bubble screen

This is your best post.

 

[Coug90]

This is your best post.

I don’t think he’s gonna take the bait 😂

 

[95coug]

My niece was also in a house, but it was more of a nerdy one. They partied some, but it was very mellow and academically focused. My other nephew stayed in the dorms and most of the guys there were gamers, not partiers. Their weekends were spent ordering pizza and playing Call of Duty. I'm talking like the entire floor of the dorm.

The days of driving to Moscow to buy booze as a 19 year old ended a long time ago. WSU gets unfairly dragged down as a party school because of its past reputation. The culture on campus is pretty tame now.

In large part, this is what I've seen. Putting on a party, or going to find one, is more trouble that it's worth now. Kids can game with friends at other schools and not have to drink in a crowded apartment or house. Zero risk of getting in trouble with cops or school.

Come to think of it, maybe they're smarter than we were.

Patrol,

Do you think Schultz and his administration's emphasis on academics over all else is a key factor in the recent enrollment drop?

I certainly couldn't have gotten into WSU or any other top college as a high school senior.

But with the way the university seems to be trending, they probably wouldn't even bother sending a rejection letter to a kid with my academic "credentials" (unless I was a blue-chip athlete or a close relative was a big booster).

Simply put, has the bar been raised too high?

It's not about academics, there's something else going on. It's not entirely COVID either (although that didn't help), because the decline started before COVID.

WSU's peak number of applications - and lowest acceptance rate (73%) - was for fall 2016. By fall 2019, applications were down about 8.5%, acceptance rate was up to not quite 80%. Historically, about 30% of kids who are accepted actually end up enrolling. That dropped below 25% in fall 2020, and has not recovered. Applicant numbers are going up again, and acceptance is around 85%, kids are just continuing to find reasons to not actually register for classes.

It's not just localized either - international enrollment is down by about 1/3 since 2016 (dropping since 2015) and international applications were down 25% from 2016 to 2017 - they just returned to 2015 levels last fall. Enrollment by accepted international students was 11.6% in fall 2019, down from 25% in 2017, 32% in 2013. Acceptance of international students has skyrocketed from 49.5% in 2017 to 81% last year, but enrollment rate is now below 10%. International students are nice because they pay full tuition, but at this point, their numbers are so low that they're not a major factor in enrollment.

The big block of students is Washington residents, and their numbers are down 13% from 2017-2022. Acceptance rates have been 80-85% for them for the last 5 years, but only about 30% are actually showing up (WA residents historically show up more than out of state - 35-40%).

I think there are two things going on. Some kids figured out that online college is an option (this isn't widespread - the numbers in WSU Global are up, but don't come close to accounting for the loss in physical students. Maybe they're at WGU). I think the bigger explanation is that there are a lot of jobs available, so kids can make decent money right out of high school, and they're just not going to college. Or, they're lazy Millennials, and they're content to hang out on their parents' couch.

I think it's fair to assume that when the Recession comes - and it's coming soon - some of these kids are going to lose their easy jobs, and some of those might go to school.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Patrol,

Do you think Schultz and his administration's emphasis on academics over all else is a key factor in the recent enrollment drop?

I certainly couldn't have gotten into WSU or any other top college as a high school senior.

But with the way the university seems to be trending, they probably wouldn't even bother sending a rejection letter to a kid with my academic "credentials" (unless I was a blue-chip athlete or a close relative was a big booster).

Simply put, has the bar been raised too high?

Chop, I don't know where you are getting this "emphasis on academics" thing from. Care to show us some statistics to back that up? I know for a fact that WSU's academic standards dropped significantly under Floyd as we focused on diversity. I perused the WSU IR site, which used to have charts of incoming student GPA's and SAT scores. Those have disappeared. Wonder why.

 

[BiggsCoug]

In large part, this is what I've seen. Putting on a party, or going to find one, is more trouble that it's worth now. Kids can game with friends at other schools and not have to drink in a crowded apartment or house. Zero risk of getting in trouble with cops or school.

Come to think of it, maybe they're smarter than we were.



It's not about academics, there's something else going on. It's not entirely COVID either (although that didn't help), because the decline started before COVID.

WSU's peak number of applications - and lowest acceptance rate (73%) - was for fall 2016. By fall 2019, applications were down about 8.5%, acceptance rate was up to not quite 80%. Historically, about 30% of kids who are accepted actually end up enrolling. That dropped below 25% in fall 2020, and has not recovered. Applicant numbers are going up again, and acceptance is around 85%, kids are just continuing to find reasons to not actually register for classes.

It's not just localized either - international enrollment is down by about 1/3 since 2016 (dropping since 2015) and international applications were down 25% from 2016 to 2017 - they just returned to 2015 levels last fall. Enrollment by accepted international students was 11.6% in fall 2019, down from 25% in 2017, 32% in 2013. Acceptance of international students has skyrocketed from 49.5% in 2017 to 81% last year, but enrollment rate is now below 10%. International students are nice because they pay full tuition, but at this point, their numbers are so low that they're not a major factor in enrollment.

The big block of students is Washington residents, and their numbers are down 13% from 2017-2022. Acceptance rates have been 80-85% for them for the last 5 years, but only about 30% are actually showing up (WA residents historically show up more than out of state - 35-40%).

I think there are two things going on. Some kids figured out that online college is an option (this isn't widespread - the numbers in WSU Global are up, but don't come close to accounting for the loss in physical students. Maybe they're at WGU). I think the bigger explanation is that there are a lot of jobs available, so kids can make decent money right out of high school, and they're just not going to college. Or, they're lazy Millennials, and they're content to hang out on their parents' couch.

I think it's fair to assume that when the Recession comes - and it's coming soon - some of these kids are going to lose their easy jobs, and some of those might go to school.

The enrollment cliff is coming. Add to your list declining birth rate.

Small colleges with small enrollments are closing now. The pace will pick up in the future if they do not do something to gain students.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

In large part, this is what I've seen. Putting on a party, or going to find one, is more trouble that it's worth now. Kids can game with friends at other schools and not have to drink in a crowded apartment or house. Zero risk of getting in trouble with cops or school.

Come to think of it, maybe they're smarter than we were.



It's not about academics, there's something else going on. It's not entirely COVID either (although that didn't help), because the decline started before COVID.

WSU's peak number of applications - and lowest acceptance rate (73%) - was for fall 2016. By fall 2019, applications were down about 8.5%, acceptance rate was up to not quite 80%. Historically, about 30% of kids who are accepted actually end up enrolling. That dropped below 25% in fall 2020, and has not recovered. Applicant numbers are going up again, and acceptance is around 85%, kids are just continuing to find reasons to not actually register for classes.

It's not just localized either - international enrollment is down by about 1/3 since 2016 (dropping since 2015) and international applications were down 25% from 2016 to 2017 - they just returned to 2015 levels last fall. Enrollment by accepted international students was 11.6% in fall 2019, down from 25% in 2017, 32% in 2013. Acceptance of international students has skyrocketed from 49.5% in 2017 to 81% last year, but enrollment rate is now below 10%. International students are nice because they pay full tuition, but at this point, their numbers are so low that they're not a major factor in enrollment.

The big block of students is Washington residents, and their numbers are down 13% from 2017-2022. Acceptance rates have been 80-85% for them for the last 5 years, but only about 30% are actually showing up (WA residents historically show up more than out of state - 35-40%).

I think there are two things going on. Some kids figured out that online college is an option (this isn't widespread - the numbers in WSU Global are up, but don't come close to accounting for the loss in physical students. Maybe they're at WGU). I think the bigger explanation is that there are a lot of jobs available, so kids can make decent money right out of high school, and they're just not going to college. Or, they're lazy Millennials, and they're content to hang out on their parents' couch.

I think it's fair to assume that when the Recession comes - and it's coming soon - some of these kids are going to lose their easy jobs, and some of those might go to school.

Damn - good research. Wonder how much our crazy $15.74 minimum wage plays into this. As Idaho's still stands at the federal minimum of $7.25. Christ Oregon is at $13.50 and California is at $15.50. Think maybe Washington got ahead of itself on this?

 

[roses04]

Patrol,

Do you think Schultz and his administration's emphasis on academics over all else is a key factor in the recent enrollment drop?

I certainly couldn't have gotten into WSU or any other top college as a high school senior.

But with the way the university seems to be trending, they probably wouldn't even bother sending a rejection letter to a kid with my academic "credentials" (unless I was a blue-chip athlete or a close relative was a big booster).

Simply put, has the bar been raised too high?

There are many reasons for the drop in college enrollment, it is a nationwide issue, not just a WSU problem, here are some of the reasons.

Demographics, declining birth rates and declining number of high school graduates

Cost- when I was at WSU I could make enough in the summer to cover my tuition and some rent money. Today earning enough in the summer to cover tuition is almost impossible.

Perception of the value of a college education, many are coming to the conclusion that spending 150K ( tuition, books room and board for 4 years) for a college degree could be put to better use elsewhere. I still think it is well worth while provided you focus on a decree that you will benefit from.

Curriculum, many Universities are selling ideology along with an education, which turns off people/parents, that are funding the education.

Covid hangover

So many reasons, perhaps admission standards is another.

Back to football

Nice to see a football thread here as well, two big pickups this week, maybe Dickert has some more tricks up his sleeve. Interesting that the transfer from CU had WSU on his original list out of HS. It was something I believe Leach had mentioned back when the portal first started. It is important to wish a kid well when you lose them out of HS, to another program. Be positive, because if things don't work out at the school of 1st choice, you may have a 2nd chance to get him. If he had positive experience with you the first time around, it puts you in a good postion when they hit the portal.

 

[PeteTheChop]

Chop, I don't know where you are getting this "emphasis on academics" thing from. Care to show us some statistics to back that up?

A few weeks ago, one of the posters here was saying that WSU freshman enrollment had dipped noticeably over the last couple seasons.

Since Dr. Schultz has seemingly styled himself as the "academic" president, I was kinda assuming that has led to fewer students being able to get into school.

Am I off on that assumption? If so, I'll gladly stand corrected.

 

[PeteTheChop]

There are many reasons for the drop in college enrollment, it is a nationwide issue, not just a WSU problem, here are some of the reasons.

Demographics, declining birth rates and declining number of high school graduates

Cost- when I was at WSU I could make enough in the summer to cover my tuition and some rent money. Today earning enough in the summer to cover tuition is almost impossible.

Perception of the value of a college education, many are coming to the conclusion that spending 150K ( tuition, books room and board for 4 years) for a college degree could be put to better use elsewhere. I still think it is well worth while provided you focus on a decree that you will benefit from.

Curriculum, many Universities are selling ideology along with an education, which turns off people/parents, that are funding the education.

Covid hangover

So many reasons, perhaps admission standards is another.

Back to football

Nice to see a football thread here as well, two big pickups this week, maybe Dickert has some more tricks up his sleeve. Interesting that the transfer from CU had WSU on his original list out of HS. It was something I believe Leach had mentioned back when the portal first started. It is important to wish a kid well when you lose them out of HS, to another program. Be positive, because if things don't work out at the school of 1st choice, you may have a 2nd chance to get him. If he had positive experience with you the first time around, it puts you in a good postion when they hit the portal.

Thanks Roses.

Very comprehensive explanation.

It fair to say Schultz is one of the most academic-minded presidents any school in Washington or Oregon has had?

 

[chugspig]

Hard to believe enrollment has dipped that much. WSU has relaxed entry requirements. Only 10 years ago, each freshman class was a “record”. They were putting 3 students per 2 person dorm rooms.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

There are many reasons for the drop in college enrollment, it is a nationwide issue, not just a WSU problem, here are some of the reasons.

Demographics, declining birth rates and declining number of high school graduates

Cost- when I was at WSU I could make enough in the summer to cover my tuition and some rent money. Today earning enough in the summer to cover tuition is almost impossible.

Perception of the value of a college education, many are coming to the conclusion that spending 150K ( tuition, books room and board for 4 years) for a college degree could be put to better use elsewhere. I still think it is well worth while provided you focus on a decree that you will benefit from.

Curriculum, many Universities are selling ideology along with an education, which turns off people/parents, that are funding the education.

Covid hangover

So many reasons, perhaps admission standards is another.

Back to football

Nice to see a football thread here as well, two big pickups this week, maybe Dickert has some more tricks up his sleeve. Interesting that the transfer from CU had WSU on his original list out of HS. It was something I believe Leach had mentioned back when the portal first started. It is important to wish a kid well when you lose them out of HS, to another program. Be positive, because if things don't work out at the school of 1st choice, you may have a 2nd chance to get him. If he had positive experience with you the first time around, it puts you in a good postion when they hit the portal.

Yeah, when I was at WSU I worked FT in the summer, PT during the school year and graduated with -0- debt. My daughter did the same, albeit with a few checks from Dad. My son too, with the help of some scholarships and a few Dad checks.

Anymore, IMHO, college is about interacting with people (not your goddam phone), fostering relationships and learning how to thrive in this world of ours. Something that is really getting lost in this work from home, buy all your shit on Amazon, get you groceries delivered world we are living in. I like getting out among my fellow humans.

 

[95coug]

Hard to believe enrollment has dipped that much. WSU has relaxed entry requirements. Only 10 years ago, each freshman class was a “record”. They were putting 3 students per 2 person dorm rooms.

Part of that was artificial, because they closed dorms. But the WSU Institutional research page has the data, numbers have been going down for several years. And it’s not just WSU.

I haven’t seen a good analysis of it, but I’m guessing we’re at or near the break even point for the benefit of a college degree. At one point, they said your degree was worth a million in lifetime earnings. Now, to get that degree you saddle yourself with 100K in debt you have to dig out of. If you instead get a job, work 4 years at 35K (which isn’t far above minimum wage in this state), and invest 10-15%….seems like you’re going to end up pretty even with your HS classmates who are going to be paying their tuition until they’re in their 30s.

 

[95coug]

Yeah, when I was at WSU I worked FT in the summer, PT during the school year and graduated with -0- debt. My daughter did the same, albeit with a few checks from Dad. My son too, with the help of some scholarships and a few Dad checks.

Anymore, IMHO, college is about interacting with people (not your goddam phone), fostering relationships and learning how to thrive in this world of ours. Something that is really getting lost in this work from home, buy all your shit on Amazon, get you groceries delivered world we are living in. I like getting out among my fellow humans.

Humans suck. But I suppose they’re a necessary evil.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Thanks Roses.

Very comprehensive explanation.

It fair to say Schultz is one of the most academic-minded presidents any school in Washington or Oregon has had?

In a word, no. Sam Smith was the best President we ever had. Great guy, I worked there then. Have stories to tell but I won't bore you all. One thing - he would always say goodnight to the custodians on his way out. President Floyd is a close second. Never forget on Christmas Eve when he sent the office home early, and he was sitting out in the lobby on his laptop manning the office.

I don't know shit about Schulz (get your spelling straight), but he is not those guys. Reminds me of the Vice Presidential debate between Lloyd Bentsen and Dan Quayle. Classic shit.

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[95coug]

In a word, no. Sam Smith was the best President we ever had. Great guy, I worked there then. Have stories to tell but I won't bore you all. One thing - he would always say goodnight to the custodians on his way out. President Floyd is a close second. Never forget on Christmas Eve when he sent the office home early, and he was sitting out in the lobby on his laptop manning the office.

I don't know shit about Schulz (get your spelling straight), but he is not those guys. Reminds me of the Vice Presidential debate between Lloyd Bentsen and Dan Quayle. Classic shit.

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I liked Sam. Liked Floyd even better. His first couple years, I would see him (Floyd) walking the stands during football games. I had aisle seats, and I think it was the 2nd time I'd ever seen him in person, he sat down next to me and chatted during a possession. I was outside the donor section at the time, so I was just a guy in a WSU shirt to him, and there was no particular reason for him to spend 5 minutes with me, but he did.

Flipside of your Christmas eve story though - I think it was 2014, maybe 2015, same thing happened and the big boss came through the building sending everyone home at 3:00. When we got back from the break, we were all notified that if we had left early, we needed to record it as annual leave - he couldn't just send us home.


ALso, addressing Schulz - I wouldn't say he's an academics guy. He's all about advancing research, and if academics improves alongside it, great. He does seem to have a bit more personal emphasis on investing in programs that actually bring revenue, but the faculty has not been on board with cutting the crap that students can't get a job in.

 

[PeteTheChop]

I liked Sam. Liked Floyd even better. His first couple years, I would see him (Floyd) walking the stands during football games. I had aisle seats, and I think it was the 2nd time I'd ever seen him in person, he sat down next to me and chatted during a possession. I was outside the donor section at the time, so I was just a guy in a WSU shirt to him, and there was no particular reason for him to spend 5 minutes with me, but he did.

Flipside of your Christmas eve story though - I think it was 2014, maybe 2015, same thing happened and the big boss came through the building sending everyone home at 3:00. When we got back from the break, we were all notified that if we had left early, we needed to record it as annual leave - he couldn't just send us home.


ALso, addressing Schulz - I wouldn't say he's an academics guy. He's all about advancing research, and if academics improves alongside it, great. He does seem to have a bit more personal emphasis on investing in programs that actually bring revenue, but the faculty has not been on board with cutting the crap that students can't get a job in.

Thanks 95.

I'm probably partial to Schulz (without knowing him of course) because he talks a lot about making WSU's athetic facilities some of the best around.

He comes across as a leader who truly cares about winning

 

[PeteTheChop]

I don't know shit about Schulz (get your spelling straight), but he is not those guys. Reminds me of the Vice Presidential debate between Lloyd Bentsen and Dan Quayle. Classic shit

Spelling (especially names) has been a problem my whole life, unfortunately.

Haven't had too many complain about it on message boards tbh, but, yeah, I need to do better