ICE, Greenland, etc. - this is getting so bad

[Loyal Coug1]

Better brush up on your Spanish.

I'm not a violent criminal. Is that what you are saying? What a stupid post.

And I post 3 links containing damning info, and the Trumpers immediately pivot to Panama? Nice comebacks.

On the flip side, my retirement accounts are healing well today. After the Orange One (is he orange-er than usual or is it just me?) pauses all his tariffs. So how the F is anyone, US or our trading "partners", supposed to operate with this on again off again circus? I mean really. Were the cargo boats docking yesterday from overseas subject to tariffs, but today they are good to go?

I have no idea what the mechanisms are for collecting tariffs, but Christ what an accounting nightmare. Absolute insanity.

 

[Observer11]

I'm not a violent criminal. Is that what you are saying? What a stupid post.

And I post 3 links containing damning info, and the Trumpers immediately pivot to Panama? Nice comebacks.

On the flip side, my retirement accounts are healing well today. After the Orange One (is he orange-er than usual or is it just me?) pauses all his tariffs. So how the F is anyone, US or our trading "partners", supposed to operate with this on again off again circus? I mean really. Were the cargo boats docking yesterday from overseas subject to tariffs, but today they are good to go?

I have no idea what the mechanisms are for collecting tariffs, but Christ what an accounting nightmare. Absolute insanity.

It’s not a tumor…er, trade war

It’s about repatriating manufacturing and, to some degree, redistributing wealth.

 

[BSpike76]

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It’s not a tumor…er, trade war

It’s about repatriating manufacturing and, to some degree, redistributing wealth.

How much of the job losses are due to automation? We still seem to have pretty good manufacturing capacity, per FRED.

 

[Observer11]

How much of the job losses are due to automation? We still seem to have pretty good manufacturing capacity, per FRED.

It's the type of manufacturing done overseas - chips (aside from Micron), pharmaceuticals, munitions, etc.

There's still US manufacturing of some products but as Chamath said, it's the risk of not bringing manufacturing onshore that is the real issue.

 

[BSpike76]

It's the type of manufacturing done overseas - chips (aside from Micron), pharmaceuticals, munitions, etc.

There's still US manufacturing of some products but as Chamath said, it's the risk of not bringing manufacturing onshore that is the real issue.

Who can/would build one of those plants in a day, to take advantage of yesterday’s tariff rates? Which will go poof the next day, based on whether it’s pump week, or dump week?

 

[UberCougars]

Art of the Deal





This was “breaking news” from MSNBC

 

[UberCougars]

👀 like “someone” on the wrong side of a trade today, LOL

 

[Observer11]

Who can/would build one of those plants in a day, to take advantage of yesterday’s tariff rates? Which will go poof the next day, based on whether it’s pump week, or dump week?

Depends on the industry. Revisit in two years and see who has come back to this hemisphere for manufacturing.

There’s also lots of foreign countries licking their chops to take manufacturing away from the Chinese. By participating in reciprocal tariff agreements, they can likely secure defense agreements from the US by playing ball.

 

[Stretch 74]

👀 like “someone” on the wrong side of a trade today, LOL

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Adam (Doctor Bunson Honeydew) Schiff is mad as Hell because Nancy Pelosi was not on the inside and able to alert him to take advantage of the insider info. Dipshit!

Here is a copy of the pertinent portion of an email I sent this morning to my Coug buddies. First time ever getting so lucky like that, although I do not do a lot of changes to accounts, thinking long term instead of day trading or trying for a lot of market timing.

"Okay, the markets have been crazy, but for just a minute or two I get to smile. Yesterday I had my guy do an adjustment in a Roth account to go from fairly conservative to more in the market, buying on a dip, since the Roth account grows without taxes. Actually should have done that long ago, but overlooked getting it done. Got excited when the guy on radio said that the Dow was up 2400 points! Woo hoo!!! So I checked online and it was actually 2488. Then 5 minutes later it was 1900. LOL! At 2100 right now, and all that is why they tell us to invest long term and don’t react too much to short term fluctuations. 😊"

 

[Observer11]

Interesting take. But perhaps prophetic.

If Trump can be literally Hitler, perhaps he can be literally Reagan too. Reagan started out his term with a recession then got the ball rolling.

For those with curiosity, Tucker Carlson's episode last Friday with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent was quite enlightening. For those who want to scream epithets, have at it. It's clear Bessent is the voice of the Trump administration when it comes to monetary policy.

Tucker Carlson Scott Bessent episode

Oh, and he's gay NTTAWWT

 

[95coug]

👀 like “someone” on the wrong side of a trade today, LOL

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Anyone who was paying attention knew he was going to flip again. I made moves in my Roth that put me up 7% today. Of course, I was down 19% in the previous 4 days, so it’s still a loss.

 

[CougEd]

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It’s not a tumor…er, trade war

It’s about repatriating manufacturing and, to some degree, redistributing wealth.

Now that is a pipe dream. There is a reason corporations outsourced in 80's...and nothing has changed those dynamics. Manufacturing is not coming back in a big way...

 

[CougEd]

Anyone who was paying attention knew he was going to flip again. I made moves in my Roth that put me up 7% today. Of course, I was down 19% in the previous 4 days, so it’s still a loss.

You think Jared has had the same result in his fund. ? I bet not.

 

[Cougar_Guy]

Adam (Doctor Bunson Honeydew) Schiff is mad as Hell because Nancy Pelosi was not on the inside and able to alert him to take advantage of the insider info. Dipshit!

Here is a copy of the pertinent portion of an email I sent this morning to my Coug buddies. First time ever getting so lucky like that, although I do not do a lot of changes to accounts, thinking long term instead of day trading or trying for a lot of market timing.

"Okay, the markets have been crazy, but for just a minute or two I get to smile. Yesterday I had my guy do an adjustment in a Roth account to go from fairly conservative to more in the market, buying on a dip, since the Roth account grows without taxes. Actually should have done that long ago, but overlooked getting it done. Got excited when the guy on radio said that the Dow was up 2400 points! Woo hoo!!! So I checked online and it was actually 2488. Then 5 minutes later it was 1900. LOL! At 2100 right now, and all that is why they tell us to invest long term and don’t react too much to short term fluctuations. 😊"

Isn't the Pelosi thing kind of a tired narrative that's largely been debunked? STOCK ACT disclosures show politicians have both outperformed and underperformed the market which would seem to indicate it's not a group operating solely on inside info. And you'd expect some outperformers out of a group that large just based on statistical odds. That dude from Tennessee, Green, just had like 123% return in 2024. That Ted Cruz ETF has actually underperformed the market.

Pelosi's husband was a VC and they live in a tech heavy area and are heavily invested in tech. I'm sure there's a broad trend in their local area of investors with similar portfolios and similar returns. Politically she has played these investments as faith in her district’s industries, resonating with constituents in a region where tech drives jobs and wealth.

Now don't get me wrong, I'd support legislation that would prohibit DC politicians from being invested in individual stocks. There's too much opportunity for influence and corruption in my opinion, and it doesn't just have to do with them benefitting individually. They get a pension, and let them invest in index funds if they want to save more.

 

[Observer11]

Now that is a pipe dream. There is a reason corporations outsourced in 80's...and nothing has changed those dynamics. Manufacturing is not coming back in a big way...

Doesn’t need to come back completely. Needs to not completely be in China in various strategic sectors.

 

[dgibbons]

Isn't the Pelosi thing kind of a tired narrative that's largely been debunked? STOCK ACT disclosures show politicians have both outperformed and underperformed the market which would seem to indicate it's not a group operating solely on inside info. And you'd expect some outperformers out of a group that large just based on statistical odds. That dude from Tennessee, Green, just had like 123% return in 2024. That Ted Cruz ETF has actually underperformed the market.

Pelosi's husband was a VC and they live in a tech heavy area and are heavily invested in tech. I'm sure there's a broad trend in their local area of investors with similar portfolios and similar returns. Politically she has played these investments as faith in her district’s industries, resonating with constituents in a region where tech drives jobs and wealth.

Now don't get me wrong, I'd support legislation that would prohibit DC politicians from being invested in individual stocks. There's too much opportunity for influence and corruption in my opinion, and it doesn't just have to do with them benefitting individually. They get a pension, and let them invest in index funds if they want to save more.

I can’t link it, but a Yahoo Finance article says Pelosi bear nearly all hedge fund managers in 2024. Here’s one I can link.

 

[Observer11]

Above from unconfirmed sources ^^^^

Pretty sure the invasion starts any second now.

 

[CougEd]

Depends on the industry. Revisit in two years and see who has come back to this hemisphere for manufacturing.

There’s also lots of foreign countries licking their chops to take manufacturing away from the Chinese. By participating in reciprocal tariff agreements, they can likely secure defense agreements from the US by playing ball.

What happens to prices for US consumer if US makes the product here?

 

[Observer11]

What happens to prices for US consumer if US makes the product here?

Supply/Demand, the cost of production and the consumer market will decide that.

 

[WillieThePimp]

Supply/Demand, the cost of production and the consumer market will decide that.

Nice dodge. Now answer the question.

 

[Observer11]

Nice dodge. Now answer the question.

Sorry you hate Adam Smith and the laws of economics.

Prices will either go up, go down or stay the same. Feel better now?

 

[Coug90]

Anyone who was paying attention knew he was going to flip again. I made moves in my Roth that put me up 7% today. Of course, I was down 19% in the previous 4 days, so it’s still a loss.

Good for you for making some savvy moves to capitalize a bit.

The amount of corruption being openly put on display by the U.S. president is wild. First we had the Trump and melania shitcoins, then the tariffs now tariffs on pause while Trump is actively trying to pump markets.

Then the trumptards who shout out in glee like they are the ones piling in options an hour before Trump pauses tariffs. F’ng clowns always pretending they are in the club 😂.

This circus ends well for a handful of billionaires on the inside and a few more that get lucky. Everyone else gets F’d.

 

[CougEd]

Sorry you hate Adam Smith and the laws of economics.

Prices will either go up, go down or stay the same. Feel better now?

And that is why they manufacturer overseas . The big companies know US workers wont work for three dollars an hour and no bennies . Therefore it is a pipe dream

 

[WillieThePimp]

Sorry you hate Adam Smith and the laws of economics.

Prices will either go up, go down or stay the same. Feel better now?

Already been pointed out here but since you haven’t been paying attention, how much more will it cost to pay American workers than those in China. Or Mexico. Or Vietnam?

And who in their right mind is going to invest in building factories in the US if Trump changes his mind about tariffs with the changing wind? It would be one thing if there was a plan in place and they stuck to it but as the last week has clearly demonstrated, there is no plan. There’s only testosterone fueled chest puffing nonsense fallowed by a quick retreat when things predictably go south.

 

[Coug90]

Already been pointed out here but since you haven’t been paying attention, how much more will it cost to pay American workers than those in China. Or Mexico. Or Vietnam?

And who in their right mind is going to invest in building factories in the US if Trump changes his mind about tariffs with the changing wind? It would be one thing if there was a plan in place and they stuck to it but as the last week has clearly demonstrated, there is no plan. There’s only testosterone fueled chest puffing nonsense fallowed by a quick retreat when things predictably go south.

Testosterone 😂😂😂. That bloated orange POS has more estrogen running through him than a Taylor concert.

 

[WillieThePimp]

K

Testosterone 😂😂😂. That bloated orange POS has more estrogen running through him than a Taylor concert.

OK then, imaginary testosterone. Trump is trying to relive his glory days back when he ran with Jeffrey Epstein.

 

[Observer11]

Good for you for making some savvy moves to capitalize a bit.

The amount of corruption being openly put on display by the U.S. president is wild. First we had the Trump and melania shitcoins, then the tariffs now tariffs on pause while Trump is actively trying to pump markets.

Then the trumptards who shout out in glee like they are the ones piling in options an hour before Trump pauses tariffs. F’ng clowns always pretending they are in the club 😂.

This circus ends well for a handful of billionaires on the inside and a few more that get lucky. Everyone else gets F’d.

So you're mad it's not your tech bro billionaires?

 

[dgibbons]

What happens to prices for US consumer if US makes the product here?

Everyone dies.

 

[dgibbons]

Everyone dies.

Changed my mind. Everyone dies except Loyal who lives the rest of his life celibate. Then, as he lies on his deathbed a race of sex starved Amazon alien women find him and his last hours are glorious.

The End.

 

[Observer11]

Already been pointed out here but since you haven’t been paying attention, how much more will it cost to pay American workers than those in China. Or Mexico. Or Vietnam?

And who in their right mind is going to invest in building factories in the US if Trump changes his mind about tariffs with the changing wind? It would be one thing if there was a plan in place and they stuck to it but as the last week has clearly demonstrated, there is no plan. There’s only testosterone fueled chest puffing nonsense fallowed by a quick retreat when things predictably go south.

The markets will decide that.

I believe you missed the part about forming strategic alliances with those countries not named China.

Bringing manufacturing to Mexico is not a bad thing.

What was your take on the Bessent podcast? You did listen to the whole thing, right?

 

[WillieThePimp]

The markets will decide that.

I believe you missed the part about forming strategic alliances with those countries not named China.

Bringing manufacturing to Mexico is not a bad thing.

What was your take on the Bessent podcast? You did listen to the whole thing, right?

Lmao. Not that harebrained Mar-A-Lago Accord again. You and Dribblins will happily eat up any plate of bullshit they serve you,

You really think countries are going to negotiate those silly terms with the US - coerced or willfully especially after the US shat on them? Delusional.

 

[dgibbons]

Lmao. Not that harebrained Mar-A-Lago Accord again. You and Dribblins will happily eat up any plate of bullshit they serve you,

You really think countries are going to negotiate those silly terms with the US - coerced or willfully especially after the US shat on them? Delusional.

When do shipping costs officially end globalization?

That’s an Ed style imponderable. Enjoy.

 

[Observer11]

Lmao. Not that harebrained Mar-A-Lago Accord again. You and Dribblins will happily eat up any plate of bullshit they serve you,

You really think countries are going to negotiate those silly terms with the US - coerced or willfully especially after the US shat on them? Delusional.

You disagree with the Secretary of the Treasury who also ran one of the largest hedge funds in the world.....without even listening to what he actually said.

So you don't even know what you disagree with but you disagree with it.

OK - I'm convinced. Some anonymous guy named Willie the Pimp is the expert.

 

[Observer11]

When do shipping costs officially end globalization?

That’s an Ed style imponderable. Enjoy.

Did YOU listen to Bessent?

 

[WillieThePimp]

When do shipping costs officially end globalization?

That’s an Ed style imponderable. Enjoy.

Who phukking cares - they’re certainly not an issue now - why would they be in the future.

 

[WillieThePimp]

You disagree with the Secretary of the Treasury who also ran one of the largest hedge funds in the world.....without even listening to what he actually said.

So you don't even know what you disagree with but you disagree with it.

OK - I'm convinced. Some anonymous guy named Willie the Pimp is the expert.

I’m no expert - I’m just not gullible as phuck and know the smell of bullshit

 

[Observer11]

I’m no expert - I’m just not gullible as phuck and know the smell of bullshit

So you didn't actually listen to Bissent or any of his basis for monetary policy. You just determined it was bullshit with some magical power. Or is your Spotify account suspended or what?

Logic would dictate perhaps one would need to have knowledge of that which one is so violently opposed before forming a steadfast position.

 

[WillieThePimp]

So you didn't actually listen to Bissent or any of his basis for monetary policy. You just determined it was bullshit with some magical power. Or is your Spotify account suspended or what?

Logic would dictate perhaps one would need to have knowledge of that which one is so violently opposed before forming a steadfast position.

I’ve read and listened to plenty. He’s an eff-tard

 

[dgibbons]

Who phukking cares - they’re certainly not an issue now - why would they be in the future.

You should. And shipping costs have been going up.

 

[Observer11]

I’ve read and listened to plenty. He’s an eff-tard

And why is that? What is the specific policy with which you disagree and feel free to provide the reasoning for which he is incorrect?

How about Chamath Palihapitiya? Is he too an eff-tard and why?

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