It is NOT OK Nancy Pelosi refused to allow the national guard to be deployed at Trump's request.
ICE, Greenland, etc. - this is getting so bad
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Your TDS has made you unable to follow logic. The last sentence in my post indicates that there WAS violence on Jan 6. I have never claimed that there was zero violence. I have also never said that violence was okay. So how in holy **** do you come up with Jan 6 being okay?
The point has always been that there has been two (2) levels of justice administered. Very few of those committing violence during the Floyd riots were actually charged and prosecuted. Those doing violence on Jan 6 were ALL prosecuted along with many people that committed no violence at all. That is just reality.
You’re right there is two levels of justice. Those who commit crimes and suffer no or limited consequences (Trump) and the rest of us simpletons. FYI you aren’t in the club.
All of the J6 rioters were set free. Spare me the lecture about justice from maga idiots.
You appear to be comparing apples to oranges here. The $2.8 BILLION figure is estimated to be actual physical damages that were sustained during the George Floyd riots. That would include vehicles, trees, broken windows, buildings burned down, graffiti, building furnishings, etc.
The $2.8 MILLION figure for damage at the capital is also for physical damage only, and there is no way that in a period of about 3-4 hours that there was multiple billions of physical damage done to the capital. Logic and reality will tell you that there just is no way that there was such a huge amount of damage done. The only possible way to get to such an outrageous total is to start adding in things like the time spent by the "Jan 6 Committee", debate by Senate and House members, discussion by other administration members, police and DC administration employees, etc. This appears to be including a lot of "costs" other than the actual physical damage costs, which is what the Floyd riot costs are limited to.
So, I looked at you GAO link to see what they had to say about damage costs from Jan 6. There does not appear to be anything in the Table of Contents and Appendix list at the front of the 100+ page document. In fact, the entire focus seems to be only a look at events and actions prior to the event that allowed it to happen. Since I have no desire to look through the entire 100+ pages looking for something you claim is there, how about providing the exact location in the document that addresses costs and/or damages? Let's see if are comparing apples to apples or not.
Wrong again, Biggs. Not "ALL" of the Jan 6ers were set free. And even the ones that were pardoned by Trump did not get off free-they spent 4 years in jail.
They should never have been let go. Turn off fox news. The fake news is not helping you.
Very few of them spent four years in jail. Most of them took time to be identified and charged. Going back to what I said, you're saying that they shouldn't have been in jail since other "criminals" didn't go to jail? FWIW, that's the general MAGA belief.
So you’re saying THEY are the victims more so than the cops that got beaten (by them)?
FWIW $1 is a $1 too much and wouldn’t have happened if Trump hadn’t stoked the crowd to attack the capital.
I never said that and you know it. I have wondered from time to time if some of you here are really so dense that you are incapable of rational and logical thought or if you are simply being trolls, trying to get a rise out of me. I pretty much thought it was trolling for a long time, but you guys are sure making the case more and more for the dense option.
Let's try one more time, with feeling:
1. Peaceful protests are allowed in the USA. First amendment and all that.
2. Violent protests are NOT allowed.
3. Some protests have both peaceful protestors and violent protestors in attendance.
4. Peaceful protestors should NOT be prosecuted.
5. Violent/destructive protestors SHOULD be prosecuted.
6. Protestors at different protests should be treated equally for equivalent acts, no two tiers of justice allowed.
It really is simple, but I predict that there will be plenty of struggling here trying to figure out what it means. Good luck, though.
Then I guess that $2,800,000,0000 is WAAAAAAY too much then?
BTW, it never would have happened if the powers that be had listened to Trump 3 days earlier and stationed the 10,000 troops there like he wanted to do. Remember the old adage- an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
And the people that you say he was stoking up actually arrived after the intrusion had started. His speech that day was mostly irrelevant.
I believe what you are referencing is the 6th Amendment to the US Constitution which guarantees the right to a speedy trial.
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
There is a 72 year grandmother who refused Trump's pardon and likely will have her case taken to the Supreme Court on the basis of both the 1st Amendment and the 6th Amendment.
Which was it? Shot through the glass, or through a broken window?
Answer: neither. She was shot as she went through the space where invaders (that’s what they were) had already broken the glass out. She was shot after being warned multiple times, as she advanced with full view of armed officers, deep in the building at the last barricades between rioters and whichever congresspersons were holed up there.
In other words, it was a good shooting. She brought it on herself.
Stretch you are so full of shit. Trump did not summon the National Guard 3 days, hours or minutes before the insurrection. That is a fact. And BS on the rally crowd showing up after the insurrection started. The initial bunch of Proud Boys were at the rally and left early. After the rally, at Trump's prodding, the rest of the mob marched to the Capital after the rally.
Why do you keep on this? It was a horrible day for the US, Trump instigated it and urged the crowd to riot. Those are facts. You just keep looking stupider and more brainwashed with every post. WTF is wrong with you? Spent too much time in Northern Idaho?
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Naw. I think what it means for you is that VIOLENT protests are ok so long as it’s your people doing them on behalf of Trump and your fringe right wing ideology. Anyone else engages in that activity lock em up and throw away the key or burn em at the stake.
And dozens of others were lucky not to have been shot as they ignored officer orders, stampeded the capital and assaulted police. Under other circumstances a commuted prison term would be a gift to them. But to stretch and Uber they are still victims
Who needs immigrants when you guys volunteer to shovel endless piles of steaming bullshit. I can see why you are good with them being deported!
I have zero issues with immigration. We are a country of immigrants and will continue to be so.
Most objections I’ve heard have to do with line cutters and criminals sent here by their host countries. A friends Mom just passed her test and became a USCitizen. Twelve years! it took. She was German met and married a US Soldier stationed in Germany.
12 years.
Most objections I’ve heard have to do with line cutters and criminals sent here by their host countries. A friends Mom just passed her test and became a USCitizen. Twelve years! it took. She was German met and married a US Soldier stationed in Germany.
12 years.
Yeah, it’s already backfiring and every reputable economist who didn’t graduate from Trump University said it would.
who would you trust more with understanding the economy, the challenges ahead and planning/ executing economic strategy:
A. Coug90
B. Biggs
C. Lil willy
D. Loyal
E. Bessent
Serious question.
(I’d do a poll but that would mean starting another thread)
A. Coug90
B. Biggs
C. Lil willy
D. Loyal
E. Bessent
Serious question.
(I’d do a poll but that would mean starting another thread)
Well, really....
From Treasury website:
"The Secretary of the Treasury is responsible for formulating and recommending domestic and international financial, economic, and tax policy, participating in the formulation of broad fiscal policies that have general significance for the economy, and managing the public debt. The Secretary oversees the activities of the Treasury Department in carrying out her major law enforcement responsibilities; in serving as the financial agent for the U.S. Government; and in manufacturing coins and currency."
"What does a hedge fund manager do?"
"A hedge fund manager oversees the investment decisions and operations of a hedge fund, aiming to achieve high returns for investors by using a variety of strategies, including leverage and short selling, according to Investopedia. They analyze markets, develop investment strategies, manage the fund's portfolio, and often raise capital from investors"
Not sure I'd really say being a hedge fund manager qualifies one for directing economic policy. I'd listen to him about what to do with my 401K...but I wouldn't go to him to do my taxes, work out a contract, or run law enforcement investigations.
DOesn't matter though, we're stuck with him for 3.5 years...or until he disagrees with Trump and gets labeled as an idiot, just like what happens to all of the people DT says nice things about until they tell him no.
Let’s go all in with the guy who’s bankrupted himself 6 times. Also the virologist expert who raw dogged a porn star 🤦🏼
You guys are F’n idiots.
Yes…my portfolio. And the public chess moves of other world leaders while Donald is playing Candyland. It’s a failure. The severity and to what extent he walks things back (already doing so) is the only thing up for debate.
F. Tik tok accounts from influencers whose profile pics are with their shirts off by uberstupid.
Sorta. Market performed better under Obama than trumps terms though 🤷. Was nice for him to be able to ride that train for a while.
And Obama's lift was because the market crashed during the banking meltdown just prior to him taking office. So buy the dip now, right?
Or go short if you think Trump is heading for the next Depression.
Wall Street makes money on the way up or money on the way down. They don't really care.
(Not financial advice).
Blanton said there was more that $30 million in damages to just the capitol building so you're wrong again: https://www.npr.org/sections/insurr...nes-30-million-in-damages-from-pro-trump-riot
And reimbursements to various agencies, massive subsequent security upgrades at the Capitol ($730 million) and the cost of subsequent legal proceedings drove the cost of the Jan. 6th riot to almost incomprehensible scale.
Meanwhile, I can't find a source that corroborates your $2.8 billion claim about George Floyd protests. And of the damage that was done, much can be laid at the feet of opportunistic looters and arsonists.
Depressions are 100 year events. Dumb to bet on that you’ll get cooked 99% of the time. I’ve already said you’re better to hold especially considering a 4-8 year presidential term. Odds are as bad as Trump is F’ng things up the market will still be higher than when he took his oath for his second term.
Markets off its peak. Seems to me if the “Ships goin’ down! Might wanna Buy gold and find a way to defend it, or probably best just to buy more in regular intervals, uninterrupted into your long term strategy.
If you can’t stomach the ups and downs, build a CD ladder.
If you can’t stomach the ups and downs, build a CD ladder.
Not sure who you’re talking to since you still struggle with the quote button but if it’s me, pretty clearly said and have said before that holding outperforms almost every time 🤷.
You realize we got bigger problems to solve, yes?
Former Google CEO, Eric Schmidt:
"We believe that in the next year, the vast majority of programmers will be replaced by AI.
Within three to five years, we’ll see AGI—systems as smart as the best humans.
And in six years, artificial superintelligence—smarter than all of us combined.
This is happening fast, and society isn’t ready."
wanna talk football?
Former Google CEO, Eric Schmidt:
"We believe that in the next year, the vast majority of programmers will be replaced by AI.
Within three to five years, we’ll see AGI—systems as smart as the best humans.
And in six years, artificial superintelligence—smarter than all of us combined.
This is happening fast, and society isn’t ready."
wanna talk football?
