Everyone who is eligible. Last year didn’t count.If I’m looking @ this correctly I’m seeing a number of GR & SR on the depth chart.
I have zero knowledge on who might be granted another year.
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We can always hope one of our graduates goes on to be the founder of a multi-billion dollar company and really likes football...
Outside of that, you're spot on.
One out-of-the-box idea, albeit not likely to happen with Dickert the interim guy for pragmatic reasons, might be Kwiatkowski. I don't think he's ever pushed hard to be a head coach, but he sure can run a defense, might be motivated to really put Jimmy in his place, as he could do at WSU, and he's a Boise guy who has a lot of connections from having been at Boise for so long and then in the Pac-12, and is from the Petersen tree. Imagine him as the head guy running the defense. He could tout the record of getting players in the NFL, and it seems (albeit just a feeling) that we get more benefit from a "name" guy on defense recruiting difference-makers there, whereas with any OC running a fairly interesting scheme, we should be able to get the same kind of skill players on offense we typically could expect to get. Even Wulff without the FOB or stadium upgrades was able to recruit some pretty solid offensive skill players (Wilson, Tuel, Galvin, Dom Williams, and others) mainly due to just having the Pac-12 logo on his shirt. Just a thought. Really amazing, but almost certainly infeasible, might be Banks at HC and Kwiatkowski as associate head coach / DC, although I know pulling him out of UT will be virtually impossible. Non-zero chance Sark is out as early as next year, though, given how things are going at Texas.
So any player that is currently listed as a Sr or RS Sr has another year?
The only losses are those listed as Gr? If this is accurate we have some meat left on the bone.
That's a handful of names who graduated from HS 20-30 years ago. If Washington was so rich with talent, would you remember specific names? And would you have to reach back more than 5 years?
Those delusional jackwads thought he was gonna take Pete’s success to the next level. It was a stupid hire and I’m thrilled now as I was then that they did it.
So Abe Lucas and Andre Dillard shouldn't have been recruited?
Peyton Pelleur, Issac Dotson?
Or do you hate bowl games?
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Next year's O-line.
LT: Fifita
LG: Kingston
C: Greene
RG: Gomness/Tailavea
RT: Beresford
Obviously they'll need to be coached up but it's not a completely green group.
my thoughts exactly
nobody said don't recruit washington, it just doesn't make sense to waste resources doing it. make a pass through the state, where there is interest pursue it, it can't be
a recruiting focal point
Looks like there are 24 kids in WA that are 3 stars or better. 9 in Oregon. 110 in California.
In the West? 225.
In Texas? 225.
In Florida? 250.
In the South? 690.
Dumping our best ever fundraiser as AD seems like a stellar idea.
by what metric did he earn that title? because giving has increased? So has everyone else's, we're still bottom third of the P12 and way below giving nationally.
If you think Chun is a bad AD, you haven't been around Cougar football very long. Look at the hires he has made, all have done well, even Rolo appeared to be turning the corner and looked like a good hire. Problem is he painted himself and WSU into a corner with is conspiracy, anti vax stance, which no one could have foreseen. I hated to see him go, but Rolo is gone, get over it, and he has no one to blame but himself. Chun is not a problem.
We have had record years under his watch. If you want to credit that to inflation, then go ahead. But it stinks of sour grapes.
He also hired Ethridge, Smith, and Greene.
A guy with a 2 inch vertical jumps higher than a guy with a 1 inch vertical.
Neither is ever going to dunk.
The next time you post something of substance will be the first.
As a life long medical/dental area manager, it's hard for me to understand some of the recruiting challenges I always hear about. How many coaches are allowed to actively recruit? 8? 10? 12?
Looking at the numbers Biggs posted, let's say there are 100-150 recruit worthy prospects in WA/OR/Northern CA. Of those, there are probably 50 or so that you keep on your hot list. So again, as a territory manager who has worked 5 state territories my entire career, how difficult is it to recruit the Hell out of your designated area? I know they have other responsibilities, and often times you have to hand off recruits to other coaches where the personality and cultural common ground is stronger, but it shouldn't be that difficult to manage a recruiting territory of up to 200 prospects.
Looking at the numbers Biggs posted, let's say there are 100-150 recruit worthy prospects in WA/OR/Northern CA. Of those, there are probably 50 or so that you keep on your hot list. So again, as a territory manager who has worked 5 state territories my entire career, how difficult is it to recruit the Hell out of your designated area? I know they have other responsibilities, and often times you have to hand off recruits to other coaches where the personality and cultural common ground is stronger, but it shouldn't be that difficult to manage a recruiting territory of up to 200 prospects.
Couple things… It isn’t just the 225 in the West, you recruit the juniors and sophs too. So the number, while varying in amount of time contacted, is bigger than it appears.
Hands in the pie is much bigger… All 12 league schools are involved to some degree. Other conferences will show up as well. Assuming every Pac 12 team took the max of 25,,,, there is a shortfall of talent.
The collection of info, evaluation of talent and management of time on the road is what’s most important. The travel time and amount of time spent if you wanted to meet every single kid is enormous when compared to, say, Texas. Where you could see just as much talent in 1 state.
That's a good point, and it explains the time demands much more clearly. Still though, how many coaches actively recruit? That will clarify the number or prospects each one has to manage.
They all have to recruit.
For perspective, there was a time when WSU had 2 coaches recruiting Washington…. and there wasn’t 24 prospects at that time either..
It’s early but I like what I see. If they take down the Ducks I’d be just about ready to sign him up. Anyone hired us going to come with risks. Provided he can articulate a good offensive plan and can bring in some recruiters I’d pull the trigger.
I think Chun calls Chris Petersen 1st...then gives Dickert a hard look.
Normally I would be excited about CP...but not a fan of his offense and his QBs didn't seem to improve.
Then there is the continuity issue.
But he wins. That's the bottom line.
Exactly. Dickert seems like a great dude and is doing a fine job, but...
Wyoming
South Dakota St
Minnesota St
Augustana (?)
Southeast Missouri St
South Dakota
North Dakota St
Wisconsin-Stevens Point
These are the places he's coached prior to WSU. Where is the OC coming from? We've seen how a coach with very few P5 connections worked out.
Tracy Ford throwing a temper tantrum that we wouldn't offer his fringy kids, while I guarantee he never did, nor ever will steer a kid towards us if that kid has any other Pac12 offers.
Unfortunate thing is, the know nothing blowhards on local sports radio bought it hook, line & sinker.
Mike Leach was once a lifetime, fluke that fell into our laps. I don't know that "Mike Leach type cache" should be a prerequisite for the job. Guys with that kind of resume aren't sitting around, unless you want to plug your nose and hire Art Briles (I don't).
And no thanks to Brink, unless he wants to just be an analyst of some sort. If he wants to get into coaching, he can cut his teeth at the lower levels first.
Bingo. The so called experts then double down on this nonsense when a school like Eastern has a good year, ripping on WSU for "turning their nose up" at those players. Problem is, for every Cooper Kupp that gets missed, there are a thousand kids playing for EWU that aren't Pac 12 caliber.
Guy is 55 and has been coaching for 33 years. Sometimes career coordinators are not HCs for a reason.
The Oregonian's OSU beat writer seems enthralled with Tracy Ford and what he has to offer. Maybe some of those players Ford was peddling for WSU are going to end up in Corvallis. He will still save the best ones for "top tier" programs.
OSU hungry for Ford's scraps
Glad Cougar
O'Connell & Cole Madison too. Leach was great at allocating exactly the right number of scholarships he needed in WA, and he was largely criticized for it.
Just because you play well in the Big Sky doesnt mean you would play well in the Pac 12. It isnt unreasonable to take a look at the All League list and see if you were or werent correct on your evaluation of the kid.
We have seen a few Big Sky qbs move up to the Pac 12 and never see the field. And those guys shredded that league…
You also have to look at all of the 2 star guys that might have a high ceiling with some development. Mike Leach's 2019 class had 6 guys rated 2 stars or less.
And, you also have to consider that the ratings services tend to look at the skill set and how it translates to the average/typical team and system. If you're running a niche O or D, those ratings don't necessarily translate. Some of the elite prospects probably have the skills to work in almost any system, but especially once you get down to the 2-3 star kids, you have to take a close look at how they work in yours. A kid rated 2-star in a pro style offense might be a 4-star in R&S.
Drew Bledsoe was a great QB for a single back spread offense. Might not have worked as well in the Air Raid. Wouldn't work at all in RPO.
Lets say we keep Dickert.
Would love to bring on Price as a recruiting and roster management consultant or another old wise coach. Ed mentioned it before.
They had Mouse Davis helping out at Hawaii. Maybe he or June Junes would like to help out?
Just throwing it out there. Price probably just wants to chill...but he will probably in nearby Lake Coeur d'Alene during fall camp.
Would love to bring on Price as a recruiting and roster management consultant or another old wise coach. Ed mentioned it before.
They had Mouse Davis helping out at Hawaii. Maybe he or June Junes would like to help out?
Just throwing it out there. Price probably just wants to chill...but he will probably in nearby Lake Coeur d'Alene during fall camp.
Price had 8 running backs on scholarship for a 1 back offense.
He doesn’t know a damn thing about roster management or scholarship allotment.
