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Hmm. But make sure that mask is on for another 9 days. That'll kill the rest of the germs for sure.

One of the reasons I am sympathetic to the people that hate the mandates and other crap is the fact that so much of it is ridiculously arbitrary and dumb. Once you've decided to do something, why pick a random ass date in the near future to do it?

It's all so dumb (all around) and I'm looking forward to being past it.
 
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One of the reasons I am sympathetic to the people that hate the mandates and other crap is the fact that so much of it is ridiculously arbitrary and dumb. Once you've decided to do something, why pick a random ass date in the near future to do it?

It's all so dumb (all around) and I'm looking forward to being past it.
You could argue the targeted case rate threshold is arbitrary. That’s what’s setting the shifting mask date.
 
It’s nothing mysterious: unmask dates are based upon projecting when covid case rates will fall below a targeted threshold. But then understanding this requires critical thinking ability and avoiding mis and disinformation served up by duckduckgo.
Right because masks have been the arbiter of absolute defense against Covid right? Lol you continue the clown show you're so famous for. Keep making excuses for the constant goal post shift.
 
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Right because masks have been the arbiter of absolute defense against Covid right? Lol you continue the clown show you're so famous for. Keep making excuses for the constant goal post shift.

There's a one in three trillion chance Willie the Big Pharma Pimp is correct. Or am I confusing that with another statistical anomaly in recent days?
 
Right because masks have been the arbiter of absolute defense against Covid right? Lol you continue the clown show you're so famous for. Keep making excuses for the constant goal post shift.
Show me where I said any of what you are claiming. I simply stated a fact about why the mask date was chosen and you replied with a straw man. You mouth breathers sure do stick up for each other.
 
I found it hilarious the democrats last night did a standing ovation for providing more resources to officers when it was the democrats that were foaming out the mouth wanting to get rid of the police all together. What a joke.

There's very rarely a decent person in politics. Its so damn sad.
 
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Show me where I said any of what you are claiming. I simply stated a fact about why the mask date was chosen and you replied with a straw man. You mouth breathers sure do stick up for each other.
It was chosen because of science.

Political science.

Their polling numbers are in the toilet.
 
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It’s nothing mysterious: unmask dates are based upon projecting when covid case rates will fall below a targeted threshold. But then understanding this requires critical thinking ability and avoiding mis and disinformation served up by duckduckgo.
There's some of that (although I think politics outweighs it). The part I don't understand is that I've seen them say they're putting it a week or two ahead to give schools, businesses, etc. "time to prepare."

I don't know what they're preparing that requires a week or more. Seems pretty simple to me - people stop wearing masks, and you stop telling them they're supposed to. That doesn't take a week.
 
Show me where I said any of what you are claiming. I simply stated a fact about why the mask date was chosen and you replied with a straw man. You mouth breathers sure do stick up for each other.
Bruhski.... You have been all about the mask and vaccine mandates ever since they rolled out. You've been an ardent supporter of all things mandate related. Now you're on here trying to convince everyone that you weren't about that noise? A Leftist is what a Leftist does.... Like the 3 D's of Dodgeball, duck, dive, dodge! If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!! Except you LEFTISTS (definitely in the category of a four letter word) have your own version... Deny, Distract and Dodge (the question).
 
Bruhski.... You have been all about the mask and vaccine mandates ever since they rolled out. You've been an ardent supporter of all things mandate related. Now you're on here trying to convince everyone that you weren't about that noise? A Leftist is what a Leftist does.... Like the 3 D's of Dodgeball, duck, dive, dodge! If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!! Except you LEFTISTS (definitely in the category of a four letter word) have your own version... Deny, Distract and Dodge (the question).
Typing out of your ass. Again.
 
Most popular president in history

Right...

who has ever said that Biden was popular? His main redeeming quality is that he isn’t a narcissistic Cheeto that worships dictators.

There are a hundred videos of the Cheeto-in-chief mumbling and fumbling his way through speeches, gaslighting the public and putting himself above all others.

As long as Trump is the GOP’s choice, I’d rather see that old Keebler Elf up there talking. People say that the Ukraine invasion wouldn’t have happened under Trump. Those same people thought he could have a positive impact on North Korea and China. Did he? Nope. North Korea was unchanged and China had even more influence than before. US Presidents are not gods that control the world, even if Trump believes himself to be one.
 
One of the reasons I am sympathetic to the people that hate the mandates and other crap is the fact that so much of it is ridiculously arbitrary and dumb. Once you've decided to do something, why pick a random ass date in the near future to do it?

It's all so dumb (all around) and I'm looking forward to being past it.
These plans to drop the mandates are hitting home with me. In two weeks, our son gets married in Hawaii, which requires proof of vaccination (uploaded to a website) and had strongly considered requiring boosters as well (since dropped that idea). We have one family member who isn't vaccinated due to concerns with her pregnancy and a 4-year old grandson who will turn 5 just two days before we leave. He can't get the vaccine until he's 5 but is required to be vaccinated before going to Hawaii. Leaves us little time in case he reacts to the vaccine. The alternative for both family members is proof of a negative test from an approved testing facility (closest one is 90 minutes away) within 72 hours of arrival in Hawaii, so we are keeping fingers crossed that everything works out for the entire family. We just found out that Hawaii is dropping all these requirements.....a week after we will be in the islands. Sure wish they could simply drop the requirements at the same time they have announced it.

Glad Cougar
 
Bruhski.... You have been all about the mask and vaccine mandates ever since they rolled out. You've been an ardent supporter of all things mandate related. Now you're on here trying to convince everyone that you weren't about that noise? A Leftist is what a Leftist does.... Like the 3 D's of Dodgeball, duck, dive, dodge! If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!! Except you LEFTISTS (definitely in the category of a four letter word) have your own version... Deny, Distract and Dodge (the question).
Big Pharma Pimp backpedals faster than a Mike Breske coached defensive back.

Dude was all in on mandates, masks and the vaccines. Until he' s not.

THE science.
 
who has ever said that Biden was popular? His main redeeming quality is that he isn’t a narcissistic Cheeto that worships dictators.

There are a hundred videos of the Cheeto-in-chief mumbling and fumbling his way through speeches, gaslighting the public and putting himself above all others.

As long as Trump is the GOP’s choice, I’d rather see that old Keebler Elf up there talking. People say that the Ukraine invasion wouldn’t have happened under Trump. Those same people thought he could have a positive impact on North Korea and China. Did he? Nope. North Korea was unchanged and China had even more influence than before. US Presidents are not gods that control the world, even if Trump believes himself to be one.

The POTATUS got 82 million votes, that would imply he's popular. Unless you are saying not all over those votes were legit? Kidding of course you're not.

Also remember when Trump was a war monger and was going to start WW3 but didn't? I remember. I think him meeting Kim Jong Lunatic was a good start in the right direction. Biden hasn't done shit, I suppose it's hard to when you're constantly changing your diaper and requiring Dr. Feelgood to pump you full of that delicious cocktail to make yourself coherent
 
The POTATUS got 82 million votes, that would imply he's popular. Unless you are saying not all over those votes were legit? Kidding of course you're not.

Also remember when Trump was a war monger and was going to start WW3 but didn't? I remember. I think him meeting Kim Jong Lunatic was a good start in the right direction. Biden hasn't done shit, I suppose it's hard to when you're constantly changing your diaper and requiring Dr. Feelgood to pump you full of that delicious cocktail to make yourself coherent

That was 82 million votes against Trump.....not for Biden. It's important to remember that in any given election, around 50 million people will always vote Republican and around 50 million people will always vote Democrat. There's another 10-20 million people who aren't wearing team sports colors and switch their votes depending on how they feel. Now, because so many people absolutely hated both candidates, we had a record turnout in 2020 and it turned out that more people hated Donald Trump than Biden. Anyone with a shred of objectivity knows that 82 million votes was not any kind of meaningful support for Biden. I voted for Biden because I can't stand Donald Trump and have hated him and everything about him long before he was President. He's the only GOP nominee that I didn't vote for and I'll never vote for him.
 
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These plans to drop the mandates are hitting home with me. In two weeks, our son gets married in Hawaii, which requires proof of vaccination (uploaded to a website) and had strongly considered requiring boosters as well (since dropped that idea). We have one family member who isn't vaccinated due to concerns with her pregnancy and a 4-year old grandson who will turn 5 just two days before we leave. He can't get the vaccine until he's 5 but is required to be vaccinated before going to Hawaii. Leaves us little time in case he reacts to the vaccine. The alternative for both family members is proof of a negative test from an approved testing facility (closest one is 90 minutes away) within 72 hours of arrival in Hawaii, so we are keeping fingers crossed that everything works out for the entire family. We just found out that Hawaii is dropping all these requirements.....a week after we will be in the islands. Sure wish they could simply drop the requirements at the same time they have announced it.

Glad Cougar
Glad as I type this I am on my flight to the big island. It will all work out for you …
 
The POTATUS got 82 million votes, that would imply he's popular. Unless you are saying not all over those votes were legit? Kidding of course you're not.

Also remember when Trump was a war monger and was going to start WW3 but didn't? I remember. I think him meeting Kim Jong Lunatic was a good start in the right direction. Biden hasn't done shit, I suppose it's hard to when you're constantly changing your diaper and requiring Dr. Feelgood to pump you full of that delicious cocktail to make yourself coherent
You must love the cowboys and you are a kiss fan . I believe it was 1976 that KISS out drew every artist out there , so they must be the most popular band of the 70’s

You must be a cowboy fan and a notre dame fan , Americas team, they have the highest tv ratings out there . I am not a cowboy fan at all. Can’t stand the Irish . When I watch them I don’t watch them cause I like them or they are most popular team, but rather I watch them to see them lose . But they will have higher ratings because I have tuned them in. You get that about trump and Biden, right ? Are you saying trump had the highest ratings and is the most popular president ever ? Higher approval rating than Reagan ? Clinton ? Obama ?
 
You must love the cowboys and you are a kiss fan . I believe it was 1976 that KISS out drew every artist out there , so they must be the most popular band of the 70’s

You must be a cowboy fan and a notre dame fan , Americas team, they have the highest tv ratings out there . I am not a cowboy fan at all. Can’t stand the Irish . When I watch them I don’t watch them cause I like them or they are most popular team, but rather I watch them to see them lose . But they will have higher ratings because I have tuned them in. You get that about trump and Biden, right ? Are you saying trump had the highest ratings and is the most popular president ever ? Higher approval rating than Reagan ? Clinton ? Obama ?
Cowboys vs the Irish would draw well.
 
You must love the cowboys and you are a kiss fan . I believe it was 1976 that KISS out drew every artist out there , so they must be the most popular band of the 70’s

You must be a cowboy fan and a notre dame fan , Americas team, they have the highest tv ratings out there . I am not a cowboy fan at all. Can’t stand the Irish . When I watch them I don’t watch them cause I like them or they are most popular team, but rather I watch them to see them lose . But they will have higher ratings because I have tuned them in. You get that about trump and Biden, right ? Are you saying trump had the highest ratings and is the most popular president ever ? Higher approval rating than Reagan ? Clinton ? Obama ?

What the hell are you talking about? Have you taken your geritol yet?
 
Glad as I type this I am on my flight to the big island. It will all work out for you …
Thanks, Ed. My daughter-in-law already had Covid (doesn't mean she can't get it again, but fingers crossed). I wish our soon-to-be 5-year old grandson didn't have to get a nasal swab. Mine was really uncomfortable but I think it was performed by Nurse Ratched.

Glad Cougar
 
Thanks, Ed. My daughter-in-law already had Covid (doesn't mean she can't get it again, but fingers crossed). I wish our soon-to-be 5-year old grandson didn't have to get a nasal swab. Mine was really uncomfortable but I think it was performed by Nurse Ratched.

Glad Cougar
Glad what island ?
 
What the hell are you talking about? Have you taken your geritol yet?
Seriously … you want to go there ? See there are so many one and two liners I could throw back at you … and they may be simple enough for you to understand .

The nice thing about getting older is not being young and dumb. It really is a simple concept to understand . Americas team and the Irish out draw every other team on tv. Is that because they are the most popular ? Many people hate the Cowboys and watch them to lose . So the number of bodies watching the cowboys does not reflect them being “the most popular team”.

Flat tried to explain it to you. Maybe I can substitute some Prevagon for the geritol you seemingly want and you can understand the concept … some people who voted for Biden because they liked him. Other voted for Biden because they didn’t like trump . Michael Steel the former head of the rnc in 16 voted for trump . In 20 he voted for Biden . Same for Anthony Scaramucci .

Why you think wisc, mich and Penn couldn’t flip when trump barely beat a hated Hillary in her own party then 40k votes is strange . Also factor in republicans and independents voting for Biden and the pandemic it is easy to see how Biden made up those 40k votes in wisc and Michigan .
 
Seriously … you want to go there ? See there are so many one and two liners I could throw back at you … and they may be simple enough for you to understand .

The nice thing about getting older is not being young and dumb. It really is a simple concept to understand . Americas team and the Irish out draw every other team on tv. Is that because they are the most popular ? Many people hate the Cowboys and watch them to lose . So the number of bodies watching the cowboys does not reflect them being “the most popular team”.

Flat tried to explain it to you. Maybe I can substitute some Prevagon for the geritol you seemingly want and you can understand the concept … some people who voted for Biden because they liked him. Other voted for Biden because they didn’t like trump . Michael Steel the former head of the rnc in 16 voted for trump . In 20 he voted for Biden . Same for Anthony Scaramucci .

Why you think wisc, mich and Penn couldn’t flip when trump barely beat a hated Hillary in her own party then 40k votes is strange . Also factor in republicans and independents voting for Biden and the pandemic it is easy to see how Biden made up those 40k votes in wisc and Michigan .


Nothing from the election makes sense if you'd bother to look into it. But you clearly don't want to do that and I'm not going to change your mind.

We will have to just agree to disagree and that's okay.
 
Nothing from the election makes sense if you'd bother to look into it. But you clearly don't want to do that and I'm not going to change your mind.

We will have to just agree to disagree and that's okay.

Everything about the election made sense. What doesn't make sense is people insisting that it's impossible that a lot of people don't like Trump.....even though there are plenty of people willing to say it.

The funny thing about election fraud is that the most egregious apparent error in voting machines that I have seen happened here in Kansas. In 2014, there were anomalies in voting patterns identified by a Wichita State statistician. Republican Sam Brownback narrowly defeated Democrat Paul Davis. There were numerous reports of voters claiming that they voted for Davis but the machine showed that they had voted for Brownback. Strangely enough, when that statistician requested the voting information so that she could verify the accuracy of the results to see if they matched other voting patterns......the Republican leaders in Kansas threw out her request and the Attorney General refused to allow the case to be pursued. So, in 2015, the Kansas GOP made it clear that the machines could be trusted and any complaints were statistical anomalies not worth discussing.

It's interesting that Republicans only care about fraud if they think that they can benefit from making a bunch of noise about it. Of course, 2012-15 was the timeframe when I was no longer aligning all that well with the GOP. The cheating, dishonesty, greed and selfishness exhibited by my GOP brethren in that timeframe tainted the party for me and the idolization and adulation directed towards Trump sealed the deal and made me a proud RINO. There is no bigger compliment that a Republican can direct at me than to call me that.
 
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Everything about the election made sense. What doesn't make sense is people insisting that it's impossible that a lot of people don't like Trump.....even though there are plenty of people willing to say it.

The funny thing about election fraud is that the most egregious apparent error in voting machines that I have seen happened here in Kansas. In 2014, there were anomalies in voting patterns identified by a Wichita State statistician. Republican Sam Brownback narrowly defeated Democrat Paul Davis. There were numerous reports of voters claiming that they voted for Davis but the machine showed that they had voted for Brownback. Strangely enough, when that statistician requested the voting information so that she could verify the accuracy of the results to see if they matched other voting patterns......the Republican leaders in Kansas threw out her request and the Attorney General refused to allow the case to be pursued. So, in 2015, the Kansas GOP made it clear that the machines could be trusted and any complaints were statistical anomalies not worth discussing.

It's interesting that Republicans only care about fraud if they think that they can benefit from making a bunch of noise about it. Of course, 2012-15 was the timeframe when I was no longer aligning all that well with the GOP. The cheating, dishonesty, greed and selfishness exhibited by my GOP brethren in that timeframe tainted the party for me and the idolization and adulation directed towards Trump sealed the deal and made me a proud RINO. There is no bigger compliment that a Republican can direct at me than to call me that.

Mitch McConnell definitely benefits from the dominion voting machines as well. He's a pos and somehow keeps winning. It's all a scam
 
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Everything about the election made sense. What doesn't make sense is people insisting that it's impossible that a lot of people don't like Trump.....even though there are plenty of people willing to say it.

The funny thing about election fraud is that the most egregious apparent error in voting machines that I have seen happened here in Kansas. In 2014, there were anomalies in voting patterns identified by a Wichita State statistician. Republican Sam Brownback narrowly defeated Democrat Paul Davis. There were numerous reports of voters claiming that they voted for Davis but the machine showed that they had voted for Brownback. Strangely enough, when that statistician requested the voting information so that she could verify the accuracy of the results to see if they matched other voting patterns......the Republican leaders in Kansas threw out her request and the Attorney General refused to allow the case to be pursued. So, in 2015, the Kansas GOP made it clear that the machines could be trusted and any complaints were statistical anomalies not worth discussing.

It's interesting that Republicans only care about fraud if they think that they can benefit from making a bunch of noise about it. Of course, 2012-15 was the timeframe when I was no longer aligning all that well with the GOP. The cheating, dishonesty, greed and selfishness exhibited by my GOP brethren in that timeframe tainted the party for me and the idolization and adulation directed towards Trump sealed the deal and made me a proud RINO. There is no bigger compliment that a Republican can direct at me than to call me that.
What always amuses me is that both sides are willing to say things like this about the other, and both are right. Neither cares what the rules are or what the truth is, as long as it benefits them.

I think the Dems are still - usually - trying to be sneaky about it and claim they were misquoted, misinterpreted, or that circumstances have changed. Republicans - led by Trump - have gone totally 1984 Orwell... doesn't matter how many people saw/heard it, it didn't happen. If we just deny it enough, it will go away.

The whole RINO phenomenon is also mystifying. I'm not sure when - or how - we got to the point where if you only agree with me 95%, you're against me. That feels more 1917 than 1984.
 
Nothing from the election makes sense if you'd bother to look into it. But you clearly don't want to do that and I'm not going to change your mind.

We will have to just agree to disagree and that's okay.
Oh I have looked into it . Sorry you don’t get that having large crowds of loyal fans makes you think he is the winner.

The votes have been counted and recounted . Arizona they even hired their own auditor and shows Biden won.

You know what is interesting … you are telling me one of two things … all the down ballot winners that were republicans are fraudulently elected, or two that there are fake ballots that came in that somehow the states matched up with their voter rolls and they only voted for Biden.

Over 61 cases went to court and the administration lost all 61.

The republicans who counted the votes in Georgia agreed with the count and Biden won .

Bill Barr who worked for trump said there was no voter fraud.

Chris Krebs in charge of election security said it was the safest election .

meanwhile there is the Green Bay sweep . You have Rudy and Powell going into court and under oath said there is no voter fraud or proof of voter fraud .

Then you have the Eastman memo looking to change the results of the election and also on tape Trunp calling Georgia to have the sec of state state he found 11780 more votes .

Now if you want to counter all of this with facts, not that it doesn’t make sense cause trump draws a crowd better than Biden, or that they stopped counting votes at midnite then I would be more than
Willing to listen . But you are willing tk take things you believe you visually see as proof which it is not and totally f our democracy . So yeah I think we will definitely have to agree to disagree
 
Big one. The wedding will be at the Four Seasons in Kona. Way out of my league but my future daughter-in-law works at the FS in Seoul and has connections.....one of many reasons our son is marrying her!!

Glad Cougar
I just landed on the big Island . Nice to see you passed on your smarts to your son
 
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Big one. The wedding will be at the Four Seasons in Kona. Way out of my league but my future daughter-in-law works at the FS in Seoul and has connections.....one of many reasons our son is marrying her!!

Glad Cougar

We are making our first trek to Hawaii this summer. Oahu to start with (only because I want to see Pearl Harbor) and then four days on Kauai. My daughter is dating a kid from there and will stay the rest of the summer with his family working in their swimwear shop on the beach for $20/hour. Free room & board, summer on the beach in Hawaii....it's going to be rough on her.

As far as Kona goes, one of my co-worker swears by the place and used to go there every year.
 
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Oh I have looked into it . Sorry you don’t get that having large crowds of loyal fans makes you think he is the winner.

The votes have been counted and recounted . Arizona they even hired their own auditor and shows Biden won.

You know what is interesting … you are telling me one of two things … all the down ballot winners that were republicans are fraudulently elected, or two that there are fake ballots that came in that somehow the states matched up with their voter rolls and they only voted for Biden.

Over 61 cases went to court and the administration lost all 61.

The republicans who counted the votes in Georgia agreed with the count and Biden won .

Bill Barr who worked for trump said there was no voter fraud.

Chris Krebs in charge of election security said it was the safest election .

meanwhile there is the Green Bay sweep . You have Rudy and Powell going into court and under oath said there is no voter fraud or proof of voter fraud .

Then you have the Eastman memo looking to change the results of the election and also on tape Trunp calling Georgia to have the sec of state state he found 11780 more votes .

Now if you want to counter all of this with facts, not that it doesn’t make sense cause trump draws a crowd better than Biden, or that they stopped counting votes at midnite then I would be more than
Willing to listen . But you are willing tk take things you believe you visually see as proof which it is not and totally f our democracy . So yeah I think we will definitely have to agree to disagree


There was voter fraud though. You're saying every vote in the 2020 election was legit? What? We both know that's not true.
 
We are making our first trek to Hawaii this summer. Oahu to start with (only because I want to see Pearl Harbor) and then four days on Kauai. My daughter is dating a kid from there and will stay the rest of the summer with his family working in their swimwear shop on the beach for $20/hour. Free room & board, summer on the beach in Hawaii....it's going to be rough on her.

As far as Kona goes, one of my co-worker swears by the place and used to go there every year.
Yeah there was … there were several cases in Penn but the republicans who got caught trying to vote twice was not enough to overturn the election.
 
There was voter fraud though. You're saying every vote in the 2020 election was legit? What? We both know that's not true.
This is where you fail and folk holding your belief. These claims that you believe are easy to make in opinion pieces, partisan websites, right-wing radio and YouTube videos. Anybody can put together a sensible sounding argument to appeal to the masses or a blood-thirsty voting base. But when you claim fraud, you must be able to prove it in our courts. They Have.Not.Been.Able.To.Do.That! Ed laid it out pretty clear for you.

What are you arguing? Is there an unstated premise to you position? The courts are corrupt?
 
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