Well I went to WSU to get a business degree, boink coeds, and drink a lot of alcohol but that's just me. Mission was accomplished in all regards.
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Anyone who actually bails out on WSU because the Pac-12 falls apart is the definition of beyatch.
Good riddance.
Good riddance.
Fans were supposed to be heavily invested in the program long before we reached this moment, so yea. They’re gonna have to accept this now.
Even CPW — often criticized as he was and still is — elevated his recruiting the longer he was on the job.
Who's to say Coach Dickert won't do the exact same thing? The guy's been on a pretty good run minus the last two games.
Is WSU a program that can afford to have a HC that doesn’t know what Pac 12 talent looks like? And while he is learning, here is the prob…. His young guys beat out his vets. So he will have one young team after another and put off having a veteran club longer than need be.
You need DNA. Sorry, Im not going to piss myself with glee over 6’2” DTs signing. Unless they are amazing players with track star speed off the ball, they are just too small.
If Price did anything right, he figured out he needed 6’5” and taller to win. Get the frames and grow them.
Dickfore hasn’t figured out that his DL is going to continue to get housed until he gets kids 6’4” and bigger on the field.
So could his recruiting get better? Sure. Will it? I doubt it.
Most of Dickert's DT's are 6-3,6-4, 280+ pounds, if HS recruit, that either has good technique, or raw, or late bloomer, etc.
Or a JC, or Transfer that is 6-3,6-4, etc, 300+ pounds, IN MUSCLE, not fat.
Most are pretty strong, fast, athletic, etc.
And the DE's are about 6-3,6-4,6-5, 248 to 258 to 268 to 278, that are fast, athletic, etc.
And most are semi high end 3 stars.
And Brennan Jackson, Ron Stone, Nasani, WSU's 4 D Linemen, are pretty good most of the time.
Yes there were exceptions, yes there were times they didn't show up, or didn't get as good of coaching, or just got pushed around, or made mistakes, etc, BUT THOSE WERE THE EXCEPTIONS.
There is a reason why some, most of WSU's D Line is, are recognized as awesome, by the Pac 12, experts like Roth, opposing coaches, and players, and are award candidates, honorable mentions, all PAC 12 1st, 2nd, 3rd team, Honorable mention, etc.
And against Wiscy, and against a lot of PAC 12 teams, they RACKED UP, HURRIES, SACKS, TFL'S, NO GAINERS, STUFFS, 1 YARD RUN GAINS, ETC.
Yeah they gave up 40+ to Oregon, UW, the most high octane offenses in Both the Pac 12, and RANKED, TOP 25 OFFENSES, IN NATION, so of course it should be understandable, etc, that they get torched by a Alabama type offense.
And yes, they got torched, upset, by 1 not so good team as exception.
But going by the Overall body of work, it's obvious that the D line has been good.
The D Line, LB's have for the most part been good, etc.
It's the SECONDARY, DB's, CB's, Safeties that have been TERRIBLE, because of BAD COACHING(Because Marsh, Langford, Wade are supposed to be good, and are all PAC 12(don't get how such terrible pass coverage gets rewarded by All PAC 12, etc).
Now don't get me wrong, B Jackson, Ron Stone weren't world beater recruits by DNA standards, but they were, are good enough, with coaching, hard work, training, development, etc.
But don't get that wrong either, as B Jackson, and Ron Stone Jr, were 3 stars, that were about 6-3,6-4, 240, semi very, semi extremely athleticism, speed, upside, potential, etc, so they did have some DNA, just NOT world beater, 5 star DNA, etc.
Your just flat out wrong about the DL.
And many have made good cases, about why, but you ignore that and keep spouting, saying how bad the DL is, and how the DL, has to be at least 3 star, 6-6, 400+ of solid muscle, and that WSU's D line, DNA suck, and that they gave up so many points, yards,(which has been MORE THE fault of SECONDARY, NOT DL), etc.
I was responding to the fact I was more or less a "sissy" for saying I would have no interest in watching a crappy MWC/P12 combination if that's what WSU is destined for.
I would have no interest in that type of conference. If me not wanting to support, watch, or even to return to Pullman after that happens makes me a "bad fan" then so be it.
WSU has a ton of work to do to win over millennials and Gen Z. And frankly, they should be figuring out a plan to break into that demo. There's way plenty of other things to do on a Saturday than watch WSU football or random week nights to watch WSU basketball. But if the P10 breaks up, any prestige WSU has is up in smoke, especially to the casual viewer.
We are seeing two generations coming up that are experience driven. You either give them the experience they want or someone else will.
Pro tip, getting your doors blown off in the Apple Cup isn’t it.
Wulff could do nothing other than elevate recruiting from absolute rock bottom
Agree. Like Coach Walden used to say, CPW didn’t inherit much talent or recruiting momentum from the Coach Doba era.
I wonder how uw survived the thrashing of last year. But I understand your point out all your Coug eggs in a final score of the apple cup .. and it was a two point gane with 11 minutes left .
And he took what talent there was and burned down the house
