Now that it has hit the Spokesman.....

[Loyal Coug]

As story that I had hoped would stay buried in the Pullman/Lewiston papers is out there for everyone to see.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/nov/15/simple-tweet-this-one-from-mike-leach-cost-wsu-16-/

But let's hope that these folks change their minds (before they die). At any rate, I hope CML learned something.

 

[PINGDUDE4]

As story that I had hoped would stay buried in the Pullman/Lewiston papers is out there for everyone to see.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/nov/15/simple-tweet-this-one-from-mike-leach-cost-wsu-16-/

But let's hope that these folks change their minds (before they die). At any rate, I hope CML learned something.

How many times are they going to flog him on this one ? Once every 6 months ?

Bad look rehashing all of this right before what could be a very important 2 week stretch for the program.

Are these papers owned by UW alumni ? Don't know anything about the area or state, but something like this right before a big rivalry game in Texas would not be received too well by the school on the receiving end.

 

[cr8zyncalif]

yes, Ping, UW graduates own most of the media outlets in the state of WA. And yes, it is deliberate.

The only real problem with conspiracy theories is that they assume a pretty good level of competence by the conspirators. That probably lets a group of huskies out of the picture.

 

[Loyal Coug]

yes, Ping, UW graduates own most of the media outlets in the state of WA. And yes, it is deliberate.

The only real problem with conspiracy theories is that they assume a pretty good level of competence by the conspirators. That probably lets a group of huskies out of the picture.

The Spokesman is owned by the Cowles family. Betsy Cowles was a WSU Regent a few years back.

But I suspect that Blanchette must have pictures of Betsy or something, given their up and down coverage of our Cougs. (Up lately except for this) And I would not mind having them - the pictures that is. Betsy is not ugly.

 

[kougkurt]

The Spokesman is owned by the Cowles family. Betsy Cowles was a WSU Regent a few years back.

But I suspect that Blanchette must have pictures of Betsy or something, given their up and down coverage of our Cougs. (Up lately except for this) And I would not mind having them - the pictures that is. Betsy is not ugly.

To each his own

 

[Loyal Coug]

To each his own

Keep clutching that Gardner Minshew picture.

And I was joking about wanting the pictures. But not about Betsy. She is a good looking woman. For an old guy like me. Lighten up.

 

[rufffrider]

Would be nice if the Spokesman would do a follow-up piece attempting to estimate what having Mike Leach on our sideling has brought into Wazzu's coffers.

 

[Observer11]

How does anyone know what Leach brought in in contributions as a result of his tweet?

 

[mikalalas]

The Spokesman is owned by the Cowles family. Betsy Cowles was a WSU Regent a few years back.

But I suspect that Blanchette must have pictures of Betsy or something, given their up and down coverage of our Cougs. (Up lately except for this) And I would not mind having them - the pictures that is. Betsy is not ugly.

The Cowles are not, have not been good for Spokane area, Spokesman Review, Eastern WA, Pullman, WSU.

The Cowles family politics are, have been a problem.

And the Cowles are, have been power hungry, their way or the highway, control, manipulation, domination, etc, freaks.

Anybody who has lived in Spokane or years, decades, and isnt a extreme radical far left liberal socialist, dictatorist, knows, agrees on how bad the Cowles are.

Yeah sure the Cowles have done a little good, and that that is the reason for Cowles museum, etc, but overall the Cowles have not been good.

Totally associate the imperial deathmarch empire strikes back theme song with the Cowles

 

[CougSinceBirth]

I suspect that CML honestly doesn't care what they think...

Just sounds like another excuse coming out "leadership."

 

[Cougsocal]

If you think a little deeper, and not get your knickers in a twist, articles like this are the best thing we could hope for in terms of our future success.

 

[CrimsonDisciple]

Meh, non story. People pulled back an end of life donation, whatever. I’m sure they like the winning now while their living. I also agree with Cougsocal, stories like this may be helpful to our agenda.

 

[Coug95man2]

Meh, non story. People pulled back an end of life donation, whatever. I’m sure they like the winning now while their living. I also agree with Cougsocal, stories like this may be helpful to our agenda.

This. And to reiterate, who knows how many end of life donations have been put forth because of CML.

This story is old and stale. Why the Lewiston Tribune is putting this out there is a question. But why Spokesman is picking it up is another. Yesterday's news.

 

[Observer11]

The Cowles are not, have not been good for Spokane area, Spokesman Review, Eastern WA, Pullman, WSU.

The Cowles family politics are, have been a problem.

And the Cowles are, have been power hungry, their way or the highway, control, manipulation, domination, etc, freaks.

Anybody who has lived in Spokane or years, decades, and isnt a extreme radical far left liberal socialist, dictatorist, knows, agrees on how bad the Cowles are.

Yeah sure the Cowles have done a little good, and that that is the reason for Cowles museum, etc, but overall the Cowles have not been good.

Totally associate the imperial deathmarch empire strikes back theme song with the Cowles

The Cowles family is historically very conservative.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2007/sep/09/when-harry-gave-us-hell/

 

[95coug]

These are estate donations, as in last will & testament. The university doesn't get the money until the donors die. Since Schulz said they could still change their minds, that means they aren't dead. Therefore, WSU has not lost a dime, since the donations would not yet have occurred with or without the tweet. This is not a story.

 

[PINGDUDE4]

These are estate donations, as in last will & testament. The university doesn't get the money until the donors die. Since Schulz said they could still change their minds, that means they aren't dead. Therefore, WSU has not lost a dime, since the donations would not yet have occurred with or without the tweet. This is not a story.

Question is whether these are future contributions that the University was aware of beforehand or just some BS that someone put in an e-mail ?

Not putting it past somebody with an agenda to say that they previously had such and such amount in their will going to WSU, but now they are so enraged that they have changed it. I have some contributions to a couple of schools in my will and have never notified the schools that they are in there. Never would have thought to do so.

Like you say WSU had not seen the money and if the person is young enough probably would not have seen it for years. Sure nothing you budget for thinking they had this money coming in and in what year.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

a) not to start a political shit storm, but if true that move couldn't be any more democrat if it were dressed as a donkey and painted itself blue. who gives a flying rip which way your coach leans - he's there to win football games.
b) yes the tweet was a bad look by Leach, but again - you don't have to like Leach to like the Cougs and the direction they are heading. If you pull your monetary support from possibly the best coach (and team) to ever step foot in Pullman, gfy. turn in your cougar card and go bleed purple and piss.

 

[dgibbons]

The Cowles family is historically very conservative.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2007/sep/09/when-harry-gave-us-hell/

And to be honest, downtown Spokane could be ghost town without their investments.

 

[WASH ST A&M FAN]

As stated above, the Story was written by a female reporter from the Lewiston Tribune & the Spokesman picked up the story.

Kudos to this Coug asking her this question on Twitter:

 

[Observer11]

And to be honest, downtown Spokane could be ghost town without their investments.

It's fashionable these days to hate on the man.

The parking garage fiasco was just that - a fiasco of epic proportions - but the Cowles are developers. They develop stuff. It's what developers do. Hate on them, hate on Ron Wells or Dave Black or Jim Franks or Tom Quigley or Cy Vaughn or John Stockton or Rob Brewster or add a list of another two dozen names who build things.

 

[Loyal Coug]

a) not to start a political shit storm, but if true that move couldn't be any more democrat if it were dressed as a donkey and painted itself blue. who gives a flying rip which way your coach leans - he's there to win football games.
b) yes the tweet was a bad look by Leach, but again - you don't have to like Leach to like the Cougs and the direction they are heading. If you pull your monetary support from possibly the best coach (and team) to ever step foot in Pullman, gfy. turn in your cougar card and go bleed purple and piss.

First of all, you are trying to start a $#1+ storm. Second, labeling a donor's motivation as political is ridiculous. Third, it is not about which way CML "leans". His posting of a BS right-wing doctored video was a) wrong because the video was basically a lie, b) wrong because a major college HC needs to stay out of politics, and c) wrong because he defended it and never really acknowledged that it was a false representation of that POTUS's actual speech - which in full stated the exact opposite of what the clipped video conveyed.

People give money to their favorite charity or school for many reasons, quite often having nothing to do with an athletic program. I'd bet $20 that none of these planned gifts had anything to do with football or athletics at all. Your crass opinion that people should blindly throw money at WSU regardless of their own moral or political monitor is silly. GFY? Really? are you 6?

All that said, as stated elsewhere this is old news and no longer a story, and I for one am happy to let it die. Hopefully CML learned something from this, like keep your mouth shut about anything political - like EVERY OTHER coach knows already.

And for the record, in case anyone cares, I am an independent moderate who voted for McCain - despite his stupid choice of a running mate. I am also a huge fan of CML, and have met and had lengthy conversations with him more than once. And I think our current POTUS is the biggest amoral, lying POS the country has ever seen. And Pelosi needs to retire.

So back to football......

 

[Coug90]

These are estate donations, as in last will & testament. The university doesn't get the money until the donors die. Since Schulz said they could still change their minds, that means they aren't dead. Therefore, WSU has not lost a dime, since the donations would not yet have occurred with or without the tweet. This is not a story.

further more I pledge to donate $1.5 million of my estate when I die to WSU. There we are now at net zero. Of course the donors in question are probably closer to the other side than I am considering they made this news so factoring in the time value of money I’ll need to up the anti a bit in my last years or someone is going to have to knock me off at the exact moment that these other donors go. Shouldn’t be a problem considering death threats have already been made on this board, I’ll just need to piss off the right people.

 

[Observer11]

First of all, you are trying to start a $#1+ storm. Second, labeling a donor's motivation as political is ridiculous. Third, it is not about which way CML "leans". His posting of a BS right-wing doctored video was a) wrong because the video was basically a lie, b) wrong because a major college HC needs to stay out of politics, and c) wrong because he defended it and never really acknowledged that it was a false representation of that POTUS's actual speech - which in full stated the exact opposite of what the clipped video conveyed.

People give money to their favorite charity or school for many reasons, quite often having nothing to do with an athletic program. I'd bet $20 that none of these planned gifts had anything to do with football or athletics at all. Your crass opinion that people should blindly throw money at WSU regardless of their own moral or political monitor is silly. GFY? Really? are you 6?

All that said, as stated elsewhere this is old news and no longer a story, and I for one am happy to let it die. Hopefully CML learned something from this, like keep your mouth shut about anything political - like EVERY OTHER coach knows already.

And for the record, in case anyone cares, I am an independent moderate who voted for McCain - despite his stupid choice of a running mate. I am also a huge fan of CML, and have met and had lengthy conversations with him more than once. And I think our current POTUS is the biggest amoral, lying POS the country has ever seen. And Pelosi needs to retire.

So back to football......

No way. Respectfully disagree.

If what you're saying is that in his official capacity as head football coach at WSU, Mike Leach should not be endorsing or espousing political views, I might be able to buy in on that.

But as a citizen, Mike Leach (or any public employee for that matter) shouldn't be restrained for expressing their freedom of speech, religious beliefs or political preferences.

That's not to say there aren't risks for exercising those rights - and the employer also has a right to determine if personal comments damage the employment relationship - but we live in a society where those rights should never be restrained or muzzled.

 

[dgibbons]

It's fashionable these days to hate on the man.

The parking garage fiasco was just that - a fiasco of epic proportions - but the Cowles are developers. They develop stuff. It's what developers do. Hate on them, hate on Ron Wells or Dave Black or Jim Franks or Tom Quigley or Cy Vaughn or John Stockton or Rob Brewster or add a list of another two dozen names who build things.

Brewster deserves it.

 

[mikalalas]

I agree with Bleed. If you give a gift of a donating to the school, then while good on you for donating, its bad if you take away a gift just because of a bad comment post by a coach on social media stating his personal private opinion.

You donate because you like the college, its academics, the good things the college does, its athletics, teams, players, etc.

If the college is, was good enough to donate to, it probably still is good enough to donate to.

And if going to take back gift, donation, because a coach, player states their personal, private opinion on social media, then your a dumbass, and should turn in your cougar card.

 

[dgibbons]

First of all, you are trying to start a $#1+ storm. Second, labeling a donor's motivation as political is ridiculous. Third, it is not about which way CML "leans". His posting of a BS right-wing doctored video was a) wrong because the video was basically a lie, b) wrong because a major college HC needs to stay out of politics, and c) wrong because he defended it and never really acknowledged that it was a false representation of that POTUS's actual speech - which in full stated the exact opposite of what the clipped video conveyed.

People give money to their favorite charity or school for many reasons, quite often having nothing to do with an athletic program. I'd bet $20 that none of these planned gifts had anything to do with football or athletics at all. Your crass opinion that people should blindly throw money at WSU regardless of their own moral or political monitor is silly. GFY? Really? are you 6?

All that said, as stated elsewhere this is old news and no longer a story, and I for one am happy to let it die. Hopefully CML learned something from this, like keep your mouth shut about anything political - like EVERY OTHER coach knows already.

And for the record, in case anyone cares, I am an independent moderate who voted for McCain - despite his stupid choice of a running mate. I am also a huge fan of CML, and have met and had lengthy conversations with him more than once. And I think our current POTUS is the biggest amoral, lying POS the country has ever seen. And Pelosi needs to retire.

So back to football......

I'm hopeful Loyal will learn something, someday. We don't care about your politics. This was beaten to death over the summer.

 

[Coug95man2]

I agree with Bleed. If you give a gift of a donating to the school, then while good on you for donating, its bad if you take away a gift just because of a bad comment post by a coach on social media stating his personal private opinion.

You donate because you like the college, its academics, the good things the college does, its athletics, teams, players, etc.

If the college is, was good enough to donate to, it probably still is good enough to donate to.

And if going to take back gift, donation, because a coach, player states their personal, private opinion on social media, then your a dumbass, and should turn in your cougar card.

You touch on something that kinda makes me laugh. How short sided was this decision by these people! I mean think of the timeline! Unless they are 90 years old and a breath away from a heart attack, there is a good chance CML will be gone by the time most of us die off. So they are pulling money away because of a man that will most likely be gone when they die. Smart.

 

[Observer11]

Brewster deserves it.

LOL -there still may be hope between us, dgib. Fo' sho'. On all accounts (or lack thereof).

#silverspoon

 

[Loyal Coug]

No way. Respectfully disagree.

If what you're saying is that in his official capacity as head football coach at WSU, Mike Leach should not be endorsing or espousing political views, I might be able to buy in on that.

But as a citizen, Mike Leach (or any public employee for that matter) shouldn't be restrained for expressing their freedom of speech, religious beliefs or political preferences.

That's not to say there aren't risks for exercising those rights - and the employer also has a right to determine if personal comments damage the employment relationship - but we live in a society where those rights should never be restrained or muzzled.

Fair enough. But, as a high profile public employee, you basically agree to give up some of your "private citizen" privileges. That's just the way it works. Ask any public fundraiser how often they get politically involved or sit around talking about politics and religion in an open forum. You just don't.

The kicker here is that what he posted was just wrong. It was a lie. You just don't do that. Unless you are the POTUS.

 

[Flatlandcoug]

For me, I'm disappointed that the media, regardless of it's political leanings, feels the need to rehash a dead issue because they are trying to sell copy. Unethical, lying bastards wouldn't know the truth if it hit them in the face.

Also, I've stuck up for Schulz on a couple issues but I'm kind of pissed at him for being baited into giving a quote on the subject. This is the kind of crap that gets under Mike Leach's skin. Having the president of WSU say, "I don't expect a repeat situation from Leach" is the kind of statement that makes Leach want to make a statement. As I mentioned last week, the Texas Tech grad said that the relationship between Leach and the administration started to deteriorate when the administration started to dictate demands to him. You could argue that Leach needs to understand his place, but at that point, you're also arguing that you are comfortable with him deciding that his place is elsewhere.

One bad night on the internet on a hot summer night would be the stupidest reason ever to lose your head football coach.

 

[Observer11]

Fair enough. But, as a high profile public employee, you basically agree to give up some of your "private citizen" privileges. That's just the way it works. Ask any public fundraiser how often they get politically involved or sit around talking about politics and religion in an open forum. You just don't.

The kicker here is that what he posted was just wrong. It was a lie. You just don't do that. Unless you are the POTUS.

No - you never give up your private citizen rights. Ever.

You face the fallout after the fact but it is just flat out wrong to deny those established rights and freedoms. If anything, institutions of higher learning should be a place where those freedoms are celebrated and practiced - which they used to be.

Again, private exercise of those rights may have public consequences (as per the Leach fallout). But I will die on the cross that people can say whatever the hell they want to say even if it is wrong, dumb or unpopular.

Heck, this forum wouldn't exist if wrong, dumb and unpopular was denied.

 

[Loyal Coug]

No - you never give up your private citizen rights. Ever.

You face the fallout after the fact but it is just flat out wrong to deny those established rights and freedoms. If anything, institutions of higher learning should be a place where those freedoms are celebrated and practiced - which they used to be.

Again, private exercise of those rights may have public consequences (as per the Leach fallout). But I will die on the cross that people can say whatever the hell they want to say even if it is wrong, dumb or unpopular.

Heck, this forum wouldn't exist if wrong, dumb and unpopular was denied.

Bwahahah. I's still be here if we got rid of the wrong, dumb and unpopular! It would be lonely though.

All right - last comment on this. There are some things that, in whatever place in life you are in, that you just don't do. Whether you have a right to or not. You don't yell "Fire" in a movie theater, although you have the right to do so. You don't call your mother in law a bitch, even though you have the right to do so. And she is one.

 

[mikalalas]

Fair enough. But, as a high profile public employee, you basically agree to give up some of your "private citizen" privileges. That's just the way it works. Ask any public fundraiser how often they get politically involved or sit around talking about politics and religion in an open forum. You just don't.

The kicker here is that what he posted was just wrong. It was a lie. You just don't do that. Unless you are the POTUS.

Yes you can end up giving up your private citizen rights at a high profile job.

But despite that stating a opinion should not cause somebody to be a dumbass and take back their gift to college.

And despite CML should probably not have, and was dumb to, post his opinion in public, and while I would not have done that in his shoes:

He still had that right. That why Schultz even defended him posting his opinion in public.

As far as him supposedly lying:

Lying is defined as INTENTIONAL DECEPTION.

only a dumbass thinks CML was INTENTIONALLY deceiving people.

The real truth is that CML, really thought the VIDEO WAS A TRUE VIDEO OF OBAMA.

I EVEN THOUGHT THE VIDEO WAS A TRUE VIDEO OF OBAMA.

1. It looks EXACTLY LIKE OBAMA.

2. IT SOUNDED LIKE OBAMA'S VOICE.

IT TOOK SOME HIGH TECH TO DOCTOR THAT VIDEO UP TO WHERE IT LOOKED, SOUNDED LIKE OBAMA.

CML was DECEIVED by the VIDEO. He thought it was REAL, TRUE.

Yes he CML should have VERIFIED the VIDEO. Yes he should NOT have posted the video.

Yes he should not have argued, taken it down, when he was PROVEN WRONG.

But all that proves is he was wrong, made a mistake, was being silly, dumb.

HE WAS NOT LYING, TRYING TO DECEIVE PEOPLE.

THAT IS JUST A SILLY DUMB CLAIM ABOUT CML.

AND ITS JUST AS DUMB TO TAKE BACK A GIFT OVER IT.

 

[dgibbons]

Bwahahah. I's still be here if we got rid of the wrong, dumb and unpopular! It would be lonely though.

All right - last comment on this. There are some things that, in whatever place in life you are in, that you just don't do. Whether you have a right to or not. You don't yell "Fire" in a movie theater, although you have the right to do so. You don't call your mother in law a bitch, even though you have the right to do so. And she is one.

Actually that is not a right you have as a US citizen. The state can punish you for that particular speech. The state cannot take any action against Leach for his tweet without violating hist First Amendment rights.

 

[metprof]

Pardon me while I don't give a sh*t what the SR thinks or writes. I'm focused on a group of young men playing great football while having buckets o' fun.

These are the heydays of Cougar FB and I'm enjoying it, breathing it in, rolling in it, covering my old man body in it, and not getting distracted by anything else.

 

[Coug95man2]

Actually that is not a right you have as a US citizen. The state can punish you for that particular speech. The state cannot take any action against Leach for his tweet without violating hist First Amendment rights.

And I'm with Observer that high education used to relish differing thought. It's how it SHOULD be. Now that the "differing thoughts of old" are dominated in the higher ed, we shouldn't have differing thoughts? We shouldn't welcome them? We shouldn't relish them? Debate them? Invite them in to have conversation? Even if they are from a football coach? Seems odd to me. Given, the video was doctored. Not talking about that specifically. But this broader sense and issue of Freedom of Speech. The US is one of the only countries to have it. We should protect it, we should enjoy it.

 

[Cougsocal]

Meh, non story. People pulled back an end of life donation, whatever. I’m sure they like the winning now while their living. I also agree with Cougsocal, stories like this may be helpful to our agenda.

What do you mean "may"? (At least you get the fact that this story is ("may," as you say, be ) worth its weight in gold to the Cougar nation). It is 40% of one year of Leach's salary. It is chump change. What do we get in return? At a time of year when schools are seriously looking to find new coaches, we get free press that is not only a "salary demand restrainer," but also is a shot across the bow for any blueblood school/AD/president who might have been thinking that stealing Kooky Leach away might not be a bad idea after all. Chris Petersen is the safe hire, don’t you forget it.

I want Mike Leach to stay put. Like it or not, history shows us that if schools like Florida State, Auburn, USC or Oklahoma come calling, there is a 99% chance that Leach will leave. The more Mike Leach is seen as mainstream, the more likely this will occur.

 

[dgibbons]

And I'm with Observer that high education used to relish differing thought. It's how it SHOULD be. Now that the "differing thoughts of old" are dominated in the higher ed, we shouldn't have differing thoughts? We shouldn't welcome them? We shouldn't relish them? Debate them? Invite them in to have conversation? Even if they are from a football coach? Seems odd to me. Given, the video was doctored. Not talking about that specifically. But this broader sense and issue of Freedom of Speech. The US is one of the only countries to have it. We should protect it, we should enjoy it.

I'm waiting for a lawsuit to be filed against a university somewhere over a conservative student getting a low grade for expressing his/her views in class. It may have happened already, but I haven't heard of it.

 

[TZCoug84]

First of all, you are trying to start a $#1+ storm. Second, labeling a donor's motivation as political is ridiculous. Third, it is not about which way CML "leans". His posting of a BS right-wing doctored video was a) wrong because the video was basically a lie, b) wrong because a major college HC needs to stay out of politics, and c) wrong because he defended it and never really acknowledged that it was a false representation of that POTUS's actual speech - which in full stated the exact opposite of what the clipped video conveyed.

People give money to their favorite charity or school for many reasons, quite often having nothing to do with an athletic program. I'd bet $20 that none of these planned gifts had anything to do with football or athletics at all. Your crass opinion that people should blindly throw money at WSU regardless of their own moral or political monitor is silly. GFY? Really? are you 6?

All that said, as stated elsewhere this is old news and no longer a story, and I for one am happy to let it die. Hopefully CML learned something from this, like keep your mouth shut about anything political - like EVERY OTHER coach knows already.

And for the record, in case anyone cares, I am an independent moderate who voted for McCain - despite his stupid choice of a running mate. I am also a huge fan of CML, and have met and had lengthy conversations with him more than once. And I think our current POTUS is the biggest amoral, lying POS the country has ever seen. And Pelosi needs to retire.

So back to football......

Good post. My two cents: I don't much care what/who celebrities promote or endorse. I'm not going to vote for or against a candidate or measure based on what a signer, actor, athlete, or football coach thinks about it.

 

[BleedCrimsonandGray]

First of all, you are trying to start a $#1+ storm. Second, labeling a donor's motivation as political is ridiculous. Third, it is not about which way CML "leans". His posting of a BS right-wing doctored video was a) wrong because the video was basically a lie, b) wrong because a major college HC needs to stay out of politics, and c) wrong because he defended it and never really acknowledged that it was a false representation of that POTUS's actual speech - which in full stated the exact opposite of what the clipped video conveyed.

People give money to their favorite charity or school for many reasons, quite often having nothing to do with an athletic program. I'd bet $20 that none of these planned gifts had anything to do with football or athletics at all. Your crass opinion that people should blindly throw money at WSU regardless of their own moral or political monitor is silly. GFY? Really? are you 6?

All that said, as stated elsewhere this is old news and no longer a story, and I for one am happy to let it die. Hopefully CML learned something from this, like keep your mouth shut about anything political - like EVERY OTHER coach knows already.

And for the record, in case anyone cares, I am an independent moderate who voted for McCain - despite his stupid choice of a running mate. I am also a huge fan of CML, and have met and had lengthy conversations with him more than once. And I think our current POTUS is the biggest amoral, lying POS the country has ever seen. And Pelosi needs to retire.

So back to football......

So did you stop giving when he tweeted the Obama thing or not?

Exactly.

It WAS about politics and shitting on the coach/ school because they don't like that he's a trump supporter. AND if these gifts WEREN'T for the athletic department all the more shame on those thin skinned, snowflake liberals who basically took their ball and went home. You're telling me that you're not giving to the business school/ vet school/ general fund because of an ignoramus football coach? REALLY? (the assumption is that it WAS football donors because "emails to the CAF")

He's a man and he's infallible. He got catfished on twitter by a fake video that played into his existing bias. So the F what. He has 116k followers as of now - probably significantly less when he tweeted that. The only people who really saw it were Cougs and the regional news outlets. No one else gave a flying fck about his stupid, ignorant tweet.

Anyway, please don't try to act like them taking their money and going home was anything but political. Thanks.