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Official Kirk Schulz last day on the job thread
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Since I’ve never been divorced I gotta think this is a similar type of relief to when the papers are signed?
More like when an abusive spouse gets thrown in cuffs.
I will fondly remember that on the eve of the collapse, with rumors and news stories rampant Schulz, then chairman of the Pac-12 board of directors, gave a speech to our board of regents, the topic of which was how he and WSU planned to lead the Pac-12 into the future, blissfully unaware that everyone was plotting to jump ship the next morning.
Is there a more clear example of someone who was way out of his depth? How could a university president and then Pac-12 chair be so clueless of what was going on around him. Could he have saved the conference? Unlikely. But he should have been aware, and on the phone all day and all night, desperately trying to keep the conference together or, failing that, trying to find us a landing spot.
The Paul Wulff of university presidents.
Is there a more clear example of someone who was way out of his depth? How could a university president and then Pac-12 chair be so clueless of what was going on around him. Could he have saved the conference? Unlikely. But he should have been aware, and on the phone all day and all night, desperately trying to keep the conference together or, failing that, trying to find us a landing spot.
The Paul Wulff of university presidents.
Schulz will go down, IMHO, as the worst President in history. Worse than Vernon Lane Rawlins.
I worked at WSU under Sam Smith, Rawlins and Floyd. Smith was woefully underappreciated when he retired at 60 after 15 years. He was/is a great guy. Was one of my references for quite a while.
So, Kirk, good F-ing riddance. Still can't believe we hired a 69-year-old to take over.
I worked at WSU under Sam Smith, Rawlins and Floyd. Smith was woefully underappreciated when he retired at 60 after 15 years. He was/is a great guy. Was one of my references for quite a while.
So, Kirk, good F-ing riddance. Still can't believe we hired a 69-year-old to take over.
Where did I mention that Cantwell was a woman? So F-you asshole. My point was that a 69-year-old won't be around very long. 5 years max?
Now if her first official move is to kick Schulz's wife out of her Tri-Cities job I will be happier.
I agree on Sam Smith. Met him a few times socially and he was a pretty good guy. Really cared deeply about WSU.
WSU is truly inept from my point of view. It starts at the Regents level. Why they hired a 69 year old President, is curious to me.
The conference was bound to fail when USC took an equal revenue share with the last tv contract.
WSUs enrollment is dropping like a turd but Uof I next door is at record enrollment. That’s on him.
WSUs enrollment is dropping like a turd but Uof I next door is at record enrollment. That’s on him.
Correction, Sam Smith was a GREAT guy and still does care deeply for WSU. He would always make it a point to say goodnight to the custodians on his way out. You may not know that he kept an office at WSU West for at least a decade as unpaid President Emeritus and continued to advocate, and probably fundraise, for WSU. I'd say he might still be there, although I believe WSU West closed a few years back. You Wetsiders would know.
Samuel H. Smith (educator) - Wikipedia
With one caveat, Brand X had some positive things to see on the eve of Dr. Schultz's exit:
"His legacy of course will be tied to the downfall of the Pac-12 and the relegation of WSU and OSU. But here in his final days we would be remiss not to mention"
1) the unprecedented fundraising milestones WSU achieved on his watch
2) his key role in creating the pending new Pac-12
3) What a first-class guy he was to deal with from our perspective as a news organization.
No mention of the state-of-the-art IPF
Didn't see anything about the retirement on Brand Y
"His legacy of course will be tied to the downfall of the Pac-12 and the relegation of WSU and OSU. But here in his final days we would be remiss not to mention"
1) the unprecedented fundraising milestones WSU achieved on his watch
2) his key role in creating the pending new Pac-12
3) What a first-class guy he was to deal with from our perspective as a news organization.
No mention of the state-of-the-art IPF
Didn't see anything about the retirement on Brand Y
I don't buy your first premise. I understand it, but I don't think it necessarily fails if Larry Scott just goes with a network partner and gets a good TV deal with solid distribution as opposed to wasting tons of money on startup and ongoing costs, all for a lousy product with lousy distribution and no cross-promotion with distributions to schools that missed projections. Just use the LA schools to do a deal with Fox (or ESPN, but Fox loves the LA schools and viewed the Pac-12 as the Big Ten West). Done. Then you might have to deal with USC and UCLA wanting more down the line, but the conference wouldn't necessarily have fallen apart. Larry cared more about empire building and being a media company CEO than doing what made sense for the conference or its member institutions, and the clueless university presidents generally were out to lunch for Larry's entire tenure. Funny thing is that we, and especially the UWs, Oregons, and the like, would have been pissed about having to give the LA schools unequal shares, but if we had known the alternative ....
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He was, and is, a chump who cared more about people pleasing and kissing ass than being strategic and doing what it took to fight for the best interests of WSU. He also was, and is, exactly what you describe. Clueless and feckless.
I concur, the revenue share was just a piece of the puzzle. Scott really screwed us as well. I actually remember reading an article with an interview with George K that said the PAC needed to do be conscious of USCs “concerns” with the revenue model. A couple of weeks later they flew the coop.
And hindsight, if the PAC 10 accepted or countered with a reasonable counter offer to ESPN we’d still be in a power conference with a few Big12 castoffs. I’m still in mourning.
Yes, all those things, would have made a difference in keeping the conference together.
But the fact remains, that even without USC, the PAC 12 would have still stayed together, had Klikoff, had IMMEDIATLY ADDED SDSU FIRST, BEFORE seeking a new media deal, as if the PAC 12 had added SDSU first, and Houston, etc, instead of chasing after a media deal first, instead of letting the Big 12 get Houston first, before the PAC 12, etc, THEN the PAC 12/would have been PAC 14, would have gotten a better media deal.
THEN if the PAC 12, would have taken, accepted, counter offered, done a 33 mil to 35 mil to 37 mil to 39 mil per team per year media deal that would have been better then the 31 million per team per year deal that the Big 12 did, instead of stupidly insisting, counter offering a 50 mil per team, per year deal, and pissing off FOX, ESPN in the process, by doing so, then the PAC 12 would have survived.
If the Big 12, hadn't taken 31 mil per team, per year, and hadn't added Houston, UCF, BYU, etc, BEFORE doing their media deal, and had asked for 50 to 65 mil per team per year, and had waited on Houston, etc, like the idiotic PAC 12, the Big 12, would have disintegrated too, just like the PAC 12.
The difference between the Big 12, and the PAC 12, was the Big 12, was smarter, less greedy, less arrogant, less prideful, less stubborn, wasnt clueless, etc.
So the PAC 12 could have easily been saved, even after USC, UCLA left, if the PAC 12 had done what the Big 12 did, had been less stupid, less greedy, less arrogant, less prideful, less stubborn, wasn't clueless under klikoff, idiot university president's.
And Schultz was sooo stupid, moronic, idiotic, clueless. How could he not know what was going on around him? There were even mentally disabled, drug users, homeless, etc, who even knew what was going on, happening because of the news, You Tube, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, social media, rumors, etc. Did Schultz have his head up his ass? Did Schultz live in a CAVE?
He should have known, even street rats knew. And he should have been on the phone with the Big 12, ACC, nonstop, in the days before the PAC 12 fell apart, trying to find WSU a landing spot, instead of being like Baghdad Bob, insisting that not being invaded, with US soldiers making rabit ears behind his head, instead of insisting the PAC 12 was going to stay together, and then being caught holding the bag, and looking like a idiot, moron, stupid.
So good riddance to Schultz. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
But the fact remains, that even without USC, the PAC 12 would have still stayed together, had Klikoff, had IMMEDIATLY ADDED SDSU FIRST, BEFORE seeking a new media deal, as if the PAC 12 had added SDSU first, and Houston, etc, instead of chasing after a media deal first, instead of letting the Big 12 get Houston first, before the PAC 12, etc, THEN the PAC 12/would have been PAC 14, would have gotten a better media deal.
THEN if the PAC 12, would have taken, accepted, counter offered, done a 33 mil to 35 mil to 37 mil to 39 mil per team per year media deal that would have been better then the 31 million per team per year deal that the Big 12 did, instead of stupidly insisting, counter offering a 50 mil per team, per year deal, and pissing off FOX, ESPN in the process, by doing so, then the PAC 12 would have survived.
If the Big 12, hadn't taken 31 mil per team, per year, and hadn't added Houston, UCF, BYU, etc, BEFORE doing their media deal, and had asked for 50 to 65 mil per team per year, and had waited on Houston, etc, like the idiotic PAC 12, the Big 12, would have disintegrated too, just like the PAC 12.
The difference between the Big 12, and the PAC 12, was the Big 12, was smarter, less greedy, less arrogant, less prideful, less stubborn, wasnt clueless, etc.
So the PAC 12 could have easily been saved, even after USC, UCLA left, if the PAC 12 had done what the Big 12 did, had been less stupid, less greedy, less arrogant, less prideful, less stubborn, wasn't clueless under klikoff, idiot university president's.
And Schultz was sooo stupid, moronic, idiotic, clueless. How could he not know what was going on around him? There were even mentally disabled, drug users, homeless, etc, who even knew what was going on, happening because of the news, You Tube, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, social media, rumors, etc. Did Schultz have his head up his ass? Did Schultz live in a CAVE?
He should have known, even street rats knew. And he should have been on the phone with the Big 12, ACC, nonstop, in the days before the PAC 12 fell apart, trying to find WSU a landing spot, instead of being like Baghdad Bob, insisting that not being invaded, with US soldiers making rabit ears behind his head, instead of insisting the PAC 12 was going to stay together, and then being caught holding the bag, and looking like a idiot, moron, stupid.
So good riddance to Schultz. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
John Wilner of the San Jose paper was a huge supporter of Pres. Schultz. He even stated that Schultzie was well qualified to be president of the NCAA if/when that job came open.
I guess he's one of those guys who's either loved (Brand X and John Wilner) or hated (just about everyone here and Brand Z)
Has another WSU president ever “remote worked” from somewhere else? Seems to me if you’re getting paid that kind of scratch to oversee a university with a home to live in, you better damn well live there. That’s on the board for allowing that. How can you be fully engaged with the university if you’re not even F’ing there.
She’s a bridge. She’s got experience with budget issues and with building research. That’s why she’s here. They’ll get 4-5 years from her, hopefully repair some damage, and then move on to another younger president.
As for the regents, consider that they’re appointed by the governor, and when was the last time we had a gov that gave a shit about WSU? They’re buddy appointments, filling spots with people who have their own businesses that they care more about.
I recall Elson Floyd being accused of "living in Seattle" when he was Prez. A bit of a firestorm, and it was complete BS. Floyd lived in the Prez res. I was there a couple of times. WSU had a Seattle condo so the Prez and probably others had a place to land while in Seattle.
Then Schulz just up and moves to the TC to be with wifey and I don't recall seeing much of a backlash. F-ing should have been. And any future Prez contracts better include a requirement to live on campus in the Prez res.
When you look at the NCAA and the last 3 cucks who've headed it up, I'd have to agree that KS is highly qualified to lead an ineffective, powerless, emasculated organization.
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