On to the Mountain Schools

[mikalalas]

PAC 12 has 1 team right now in the top 25 Arizona at number 8. Not sure we are a very strong conference. Arizona State is in three way tie for first . I could see them dropping but probably not to 7th.

ASU is like Stanford. Stanford is about 10,11-8,9 overall but despite a not very good overall record, Stanford has a good conference record.

ASU doesn't have a very good overall record, but they do have a good conference record so far. Since ASU is in 3 way tie for 1st or 2nd in conference, that means that ASU could be in 3,4 place in conference, instead. From there to 6,7,8 in conference is doable.

Also ASU's first half of conference schedule has been about semi moderate, not tough, not easy.

Also ASU has had some EMBARRASSING losses, and has been extremely bad at times, and extremely good at times, and extremely INCONSISTENT at times.

ASU is kind of like the DR JEKL and MR HYDE of the conference, as they can beat almost anybody in conference, an in nation, and then turn around and lose to almost anybody in conference, nation.

Because of that, in time, by the end of the season, etc, and as the LOGJAM in, for the upper half of the conference standings, resolves itself, ASU could easily finish 5,6,7,8 in conference, as the top 4,5,6 of conference are more CONSISTENTLY better then ASU, etc.

Also I think WSU matches up well with ASU, and because of that and ASU's inconsistency, I think WSU beats ASU.

As far as the strength of the PAC 12 conference. Arizona is #8. Oregon only has 4 losses, tied with #8 Arizona's only having about 4 losses. Utah only has 5,6 losses, and is only Temporarily Quad 2, was Quad 1, was about 24 to 31 in the NET, will be Quad 1 again, will be in NCAA tournament, as will Arizona, Oregon.

Colorado, WSU, Stanford will fight over the 4,5 spots for the last 1,2 spots in NCAA tournament.

Colorado only has 5 losses, WSU only has 6 losses.

PAC 12 conference will probably have about 4, maybe even 5 NCAA tournament bids, spots.

Arizona, Oregon, Utah, Colorado, WSU or Stanford, goto NCAA tournament.

WSU or Stanford, UW or ASU goto NIT

UW, Ore St goto CBI

PAC 12 gets 4,5 NCAA spots, 2,3 NIT spots, 1,2 CBI spots, 1 CIT spot, 8 overall postseason tournament spots, whether NCAA, NIT, CBI, CIT, etc.

That's pretty damn good.

ASU has a chance at 5th place, and 5th NCAA spot if PAC 12 gets 5 NCAA bids, instead of 4. ASU, UW will fight over a CBI, NIT bid.

1. Arizona(NCAA) 2. Oregon(NCAA), 3. Utah(NCAA). 4. Either Colorado or WSU, and one of them goes to NCAA tourny 5. WSU or Stanford, and one of them might go to NCAA, and if not then to NIT. 6. Stanford or ASU. 6th place goes to NIT. 7. ASU or UW. 7th goes to NIT or CBI 8. UW or Ore St. CBI 9. Ore St. Either CBI, CIT or no post season tournament.

That's probably how it will all shake out, and that PRETTY DAM EFFIN GOOD, AND SHOWS THAT PAC 12 is a strong conference this year, that is beating each other up due to PARITY in the conference.

Even tho conference is beating each other up due to PARITY in conference, PAC 12 teams are, have beat good teams out of conference.

Arizona, Oregon, Utah, Colorado, ASU, etc, (Not WSU), has played, beaten pretty good nonconference schedules.

That means that the PAC 12 is pretty damn good this season.

Just because USC, UCLA are having DOWN season, this season, and probably won't even make CBI, CIT, does NOT mean that the PAC 12 conference as a whole is also down.

The PAC 12 is up, pretty good this season.

 

[Coug90]

Definitely. I actually thought Ashton Kutcher was annoying on the show.

Underrated part about that show is Judith is every ex wife in existence. And the new husband is every poor bastard that made that same mistake.

 

[Rich Lewis]

I stopped watching the show shortly after Sheen went bonkers and Kutcher came on. It ruined the show.

LC1 - The Colorado game is Saturday at 2 on Pac-12 Networks.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

I stopped watching the show shortly after Sheen went bonkers and Kutcher came on. It ruined the show.

LC1 - The Colorado game is Saturday at 2 on Pac-12 Networks.

A day late and a dollar short!

 

[Loyal Coug1]

I had stopped watching the show by then. But in general, Kutcher is a horrible actor.

The one movie that I really liked with Kutcher was The Butterfly Effect. That one was engrossing, and the plot was outstanding IMHO. If you have never seen it, it is well worth finding and watching it.

 

[SaveFerris]

Underrated part about that show is Judith is every ex wife in existence. And the new husband is every poor bastard that made that same mistake.

I enjoyed the supporting cast. Judith, Herb, the mom, Berta all were really good, but Rose especially early I thought was great. Some actresses had multiple roles different seasons. The Kandi character was but wasn’t the stereotypical typical “dumb blonde” role. Thought she had some really funny episodes with Allen.

Just a funny show through season 8.

 

[Coug90]

Back to the Cougs resume, zona lost to the beavs last night. How long is that a quad 1 win now? You’re gonna need to go at least 8-3 down the stretch I think with at least 1 win in the tourney maybe 2.

 

[roses04]

There are 11 games left in the regular season, Cougs need to go 8-3 to have a shot at the NCAA tournament, might get by with 7-4 if they net to get to the Semis in the Pac 12 tournament. Of the 11 games 6 teams are below the Cougs in the standings right now, which leaves 5 above us, of those 5, 2 are at home. So the simple formula is to beat the teams you are supposed to, and keep home court on the teams above us, which is Colorado and Stanford. Of course the loss to Cal proves that probably won't happen. Smith has done a remarkable job of rebuilding this roster in the off season, if we do make the Tourney that would be great, the negative is if we do, chances are someone steals Smith from us.

 

[Coug90]

There are 11 games left in the regular season, Cougs need to go 8-3 to have a shot at the NCAA tournament, might get by with 7-4 if they net to get to the Semis in the Pac 12 tournament. Of the 11 games 6 teams are below the Cougs in the standings right now, which leaves 5 above us, of those 5, 2 are at home. So the simple formula is to beat the teams you are supposed to, and keep home court on the teams above us, which is Colorado and Stanford. Of course the loss to Cal proves that probably won't happen. Smith has done a remarkable job of rebuilding this roster in the off season, if we do make the Tourney that would be great, the negative is if we do, chances are someone steals Smith from us.

Yeah the job he’s done this year is mind blowing. A lot of bball left to play but with his team getting pilfered every year then going out and finding these kids and coaching them up. He should be in the mix for P12 COTY right now.

 

[mikalalas]

There are 11 games left in the regular season, Cougs need to go 8-3 to have a shot at the NCAA tournament, might get by with 7-4 if they net to get to the Semis in the Pac 12 tournament. Of the 11 games 6 teams are below the Cougs in the standings right now, which leaves 5 above us, of those 5, 2 are at home. So the simple formula is to beat the teams you are supposed to, and keep home court on the teams above us, which is Colorado and Stanford. Of course the loss to Cal proves that probably won't happen. Smith has done a remarkable job of rebuilding this roster in the off season, if we do make the Tourney that would be great, the negative is if we do, chances are someone steals Smith from us.

7-4 is enough.

That gets WSU about 21 wins, and 12-8 in conference, 4th in conference.

Then 1 win in PAC 12 tournament gets 22 wins, 12-8, 4th in conference.

Then 2,3 overall(1 more)Quad 1, or 2 BSU, Utah, Colorado, Arizona, high quality wins.

No more losses to CAL types.

WSU does that, and WSU has about 73% chance to bubble into NCAA.

Stanford, and ASU tho technically, theoretically above WSU, because higher in conference standings, Stanford is 10-8, and ASU is 11-8(INCONSISTENT), worse records overall then WSU, and WSU has a better NET ranking then Stanford, ASU, who will probably drop below WSU in conference standings. And WSU has a better Roster then Stanford, ASU.

WSU can lose to

Arizona, Oregon, Colorado, 1 other.

Schedule

15-5 Colorado at home. 33% to 43% chance to win. I think WSU loses here. Hopefully I'm wrong.
WSU goes to 14-7 overall, 5-5 in conference.

If WSU wins this game, then that means another Quad 1,2 high quality win, and WSU can have a expected win somewhere else be a loss.

11-9 Washington on Road. About toss up. I think WSU loses. 14-8, 5-6

WSU could win this, and if so frees up a expected win to be a loss if that happens

10-9 Ore St on Road. I think WSU wins. 15-8, 6-6

14-5 Oregon on road, Loss. 15-9, 6-7

7-12 Cal at home. Win. 16-9, 7-7

10-8 Stanford at home. Win 17-9, 8-7

This could be a loss, and if so could be paid for by a Colorado or UW win

14-5 Arizona on road. Loss. 17-10, 8-8

11-8 ASU on road. Toss up, but I think WSU wins. 18-10, 9-8.

This could be a game that WSU could lose to and if so, could be easily paid for by a Colorado or UW win.

8-11 USC at home. WSU already beat them on road. WSU win. 19-10, 10-8

8-11 UCLA at home. 20-10, 11-8

11-9 UW at home. WSU wins 21-10, 12-8

This could be a loss and could be paid for by a Colorado or earlier UW win

3,4,5 games could be different then predictions and be wins or losses and WSU still goes 7-4, 21-10, 12-8 in conference, 4th in conference.

BSU, Arizona, Utah are Likely Quad 1(Quad 2 at worst), HIGH QUALITY wins. Colorado could also end up being a Quad 1 win.

Then WSU wins 1 PAC 12 tourny win, to goto 22-10, 13-9 in conference, 4th in conference.

WSU would have about a 70% to 73% chance to bubble into NCAA tournament.

7-4 is enough and easily doable and WSU does not have to SWEEP on road, and a loss to Colorado is ok in way, and so ok to split between Utah, Colorado

If WSU does beat Colorado, that's a key game, win, because it's a home game, it frees up a game to be a loss that otherwise would have to be a win, and it's a quad 1 ish high quality win.

If WSU beats Colorado, then WSU's chance of going to NCAA tournament if they finish 21-10, 12-8, 1 PAC 12 tourny win to goto 22-10, 13-9, then WSU would go from about a 70% chance to bubble into NCAA to about a 83% to 93% chance to bubble into NCAA.

7-4 is probably enough.

 

[Coug90]

7-4 is enough.

That gets WSU about 21 wins, and 12-8 in conference, 4th in conference.

Then 1 win in PAC 12 tournament gets 22 wins, 12-8, 4th in conference.

Then 2,3 overall(1 more)Quad 1, or 2 BSU, Utah, Colorado, Arizona, high quality wins.

No more losses to CAL types.

WSU does that, and WSU has about 73% chance to bubble into NCAA.

Stanford, and ASU tho technically, theoretically above WSU, because higher in conference standings, Stanford is 10-8, and ASU is 11-8(INCONSISTENT), worse records overall then WSU, and WSU has a better NET ranking then Stanford, ASU, who will probably drop below WSU in conference standings. And WSU has a better Roster then Stanford, ASU.

WSU can lose to

Arizona, Oregon, Colorado, 1 other.

Schedule

15-5 Colorado at home. 33% to 43% chance to win. I think WSU loses here. Hopefully I'm wrong.
WSU goes to 14-7 overall, 5-5 in conference.

If WSU wins this game, then that means another Quad 1,2 high quality win, and WSU can have a expected win somewhere else be a loss.

11-9 Washington on Road. About toss up. I think WSU loses. 14-8, 5-6

WSU could win this, and if so frees up a expected win to be a loss if that happens

10-9 Ore St on Road. I think WSU wins. 15-8, 6-6

14-5 Oregon on road, Loss. 15-9, 6-7

7-12 Cal at home. Win. 16-9, 7-7

10-8 Stanford at home. Win 17-9, 8-7

This could be a loss, and if so could be paid for by a Colorado or UW win

14-5 Arizona on road. Loss. 17-10, 8-8

11-8 ASU on road. Toss up, but I think WSU wins. 18-10, 9-8.

This could be a game that WSU could lose to and if so, could be easily paid for by a Colorado or UW win.

8-11 USC at home. WSU already beat them on road. WSU win. 19-10, 10-8

8-11 UCLA at home. 20-10, 11-8

11-9 UW at home. WSU wins 21-10, 12-8

This could be a loss and could be paid for by a Colorado or earlier UW win

3,4,5 games could be different then predictions and be wins or losses and WSU still goes 7-4, 21-10, 12-8 in conference, 4th in conference.

BSU, Arizona, Utah are Likely Quad 1(Quad 2 at worst), HIGH QUALITY wins. Colorado could also end up being a Quad 1 win.

Then WSU wins 1 PAC 12 tourny win, to goto 22-10, 13-9 in conference, 4th in conference.

WSU would have about a 70% to 73% chance to bubble into NCAA tournament.

7-4 is enough and easily doable and WSU does not have to SWEEP on road, and a loss to Colorado is ok in way, and so ok to split between Utah, Colorado

If WSU does beat Colorado, that's a key game, win, because it's a home game, it frees up a game to be a loss that otherwise would have to be a win, and it's a quad 1 ish high quality win.

If WSU beats Colorado, then WSU's chance of going to NCAA tournament if they finish 21-10, 12-8, 1 PAC 12 tourny win to goto 22-10, 13-9, then WSU would go from about a 70% chance to bubble into NCAA to about a 83% to 93% chance to bubble into NCAA.

7-4 is probably enough.

The pac 12 is beating up itself so you can see a scenario where only 4 teams end up in the tourney particularly if the in season champ wins the tourney. Also depends how many auto qualifiers are teams that would have qualified anyways…upsets in conference tourney. A win tomorrow is huge…pivotal game. All is not lost if we lose but would be a springboard for this stretch. We easily could have beat CU on their floor that was an atrociously officiated game. Hopefully we get the home cooking this time.

 

[mikalalas]

There are 11 games left in the regular season, Cougs need to go 8-3 to have a shot at the NCAA tournament, might get by with 7-4 if they net to get to the Semis in the Pac 12 tournament. Of the 11 games 6 teams are below the Cougs in the standings right now, which leaves 5 above us, of those 5, 2 are at home. So the simple formula is to beat the teams you are supposed to, and keep home court on the teams above us, which is Colorado and Stanford. Of course the loss to Cal proves that probably won't happen. Smith has done a remarkable job of rebuilding this roster in the off season, if we do make the Tourney that would be great, the negative is if we do, chances are someone steals Smith from us.

If WSU makes the NCAA tournament. WSU would have to make a DEEP run, in order for Smith to be HIGHLY sought after.

WSU will probably be eliminated in 2nd round, if make NCAA tourny.

Also Smith's Wife is from Chelan country, and her family bleeds crimson and gray.

Also Smith, and his Wife, kids, family LOVE PULLMAN, WSU.

Also Smith and his family live in Pullman and live in the HOUSE, HOME they OWN in Pullman.

Also Smith's kids, are very ingrained, rooted in the Pullman school system that they LOVE, that is a AWESOME school system, and their kids have a LOT of GOOD FRIENDS.

Also Smith has a DISABLED son, that is also ingrained, rooted in the Pullman community, LOVES the COUGS, goes to the games, gets specialized help, treatment for his disability from Pullman, etc.

Combine ALL THAT with how successful Smith has been, and how he is WSU's best recruiter in history, and is a awesome recruiter.

And combine ALL THAT with how Smith strikes me as a Mark Few type that wants to stay put, and build WSU into a Gonzaga type.

Given all the above it's not likely, but not impossible either that Smith leaves anytime soon.

Smith probably stays for 3 to 5 to 7 to 9 more years before he either retires in his late 50's or goes to a Duke, Kentucky type blue blood.

 

[mikalalas]

The pac 12 is beating up itself so you can see a scenario where only 4 teams end up in the tourney particularly if the in season champ wins the tourney. Also depends how many auto qualifiers are teams that would have qualified anyways…upsets in conference tourney. A win tomorrow is huge…pivotal game. All is not lost if we lose but would be a springboard for this stretch. We easily could have beat CU on their floor that was an atrociously officiated game. Hopefully we get the home cooking this time.

Yeah the PAC 12 is beating each other up, because of the PARITY, TOUGHNESS of the conference.

This is similar to how THE BIG EAST beats itself up with PARITY, TOUGHNESS, and still gets 4,5,6,7,8 spots in the NCAA tournament.

This is illustrated by ASU. ASU is 11-8 and has DONE WELL against the BIG EAST, and Beaten a BIG EAST team, and despite that, they are inconsistent, and 11-8, and yet have 1 of the better PAC 12 conference records.

The PAC 12 has done pretty awesomely in Noncon, in addition to itself, etc.

Because of that the PAC 12 will get 4 teams. Only 3 teams if a lot of 30-0 type teams don't win their conference tournament championship AQ. And PAC 12 may get a 5th NCAA tournament bid, if either a 15-16 type PAC 12 team wins PAC 12 tournament, or if a lot of 30-0 type teams win their conference tournament.

And in addition to 4,5,3 NCAA bids, the PAC 12, will get 2,1,3 NIT bids, and 1,2 CBI bid(s), and 1 CIT bid, for a total of 7,8,9 post season tournament bids.

That's how tough the PAC 12 is.

And KEN POM, etc, and others are starting to recognize that.

 

[mikalalas]

Yeah the job he’s done this year is mind blowing. A lot of bball left to play but with his team getting pilfered every year then going out and finding these kids and coaching them up. He should be in the mix for P12 COTY right now.

Yeah, Smith LOST 10 PLAYERS from last year's team.

To Successfully Replace those TEN LOST PLAYERS with 9 NEW AWESOME players and do as well as he is doing is MIRACULOUS, and if he makes NCAA tournament and then makes a deep run is NATIONAL COACH OF THE YEAR WORTHY, given that it's WSU, with it's challenges, etc.

 

[Dullnormalcoug]

If WSU makes the NCAA tournament. WSU would have to make a DEEP run, in order for Smith to be HIGHLY sought after.

WSU will probably be eliminated in 2nd round, if make NCAA tourny.

Also Smith's Wife is from Chelan country, and her family bleeds crimson and gray.

Also Smith, and his Wife, kids, family LOVE PULLMAN, WSU.

Also Smith and his family live in Pullman and live in the HOUSE, HOME they OWN in Pullman.

Also Smith's kids, are very ingrained, rooted in the Pullman school system that they LOVE, that is a AWESOME school system, and their kids have a LOT of GOOD FRIENDS.

Also Smith has a DISABLED son, that is also ingrained, rooted in the Pullman community, LOVES the COUGS, goes to the games, gets specialized help, treatment for his disability from Pullman, etc.

Combine ALL THAT with how successful Smith has been, and how he is WSU's best recruiter in history, and is a awesome recruiter.

And combine ALL THAT with how Smith strikes me as a Mark Few type that wants to stay put, and build WSU into a Gonzaga type.

Given all the above it's not likely, but not impossible either that Smith leaves anytime soon.

Smith probably stays for 3 to 5 to 7 to 9 more years before he either retires in his late 50's or goes to a Duke, Kentucky type blue blood.

If WSU makes the tournament, Smith will cash in as will Miles Rice. It’s extremely unlikely he’ll hang around given all of the uncertainty, lack of fan support and NIL money. The cards have always been stacked against WSU when it comes to retaining successful coaches. I can’t recall a successful football or basketball coach ever completing their career at WSU. Dick Bennett does not count. He just took the job to set up Tony. Dick was reportedly ecstatic when Tony took the job at Virginia. Mission accomplished.
Sadly it is the way of the world and it’s only gotten worse with the implosion of the PAC 12 and NIL. It is delusional to think that Smith will remain it WSU if he makes the tournament.
I just hope he doesn’t end up at UW.

 

[Coug90]

If WSU makes the tournament, Smith will cash in as will Miles Rice. It’s extremely unlikely he’ll hang around given all of the uncertainty, lack of fan support and NIL money. The cards have always been stacked against WSU when it comes to retaining successful coaches. I can’t recall a successful football or basketball coach ever completing their career at WSU. Dick Bennett does not count. He just took the job to set up Tony. Dick was reportedly ecstatic when Tony took the job at Virginia. Mission accomplished.
Sadly it is the way of the world and it’s only gotten worse with the implosion of the PAC 12 and NIL. It is delusional to think that Smith will remain it WSU if he makes the tournament.
I just hope he doesn’t end up at UW.

Wouldn’t blame him at all. He will have earned it and it has to be stressful AF replacing all of your good players every year when they portal out. Hopefully can have one special year before that happens and ideally he has an assistant waiting in the wings who has the formula down to succeed at wsu.

 

[jourdand]

The PAC 12 is currently ranked 7th as far as basketball conferences go. I would guess 3 tourney teams for sure and probably 4 with 5 not being completely out of the realm of possibility. WSU certainly can be and already is in the mix for one of those spots.

This is a very fun team to watch, it’s quickly becoming one of my favorite teams in recent history. Smith has done a terrific job bringing this team together and coaching to its strengths. Not sure what Coach Smith’s career goals are but I think WSU wouldn’t be a bad place for him to end his career. He doesn’t have a history of staying put for long periods of time but he has never been at this level before.

 

[7ICoug]

I think many things will go into his decision. His family is very important. Biggest problem is fan support and this level is not staying the same after this season. Not at all sure what his relationship might be with the "current AD"

 

[Loyal Coug1]

If WSU makes the NCAA tournament. WSU would have to make a DEEP run, in order for Smith to be HIGHLY sought after.

WSU will probably be eliminated in 2nd round, if make NCAA tourny.

Also Smith's Wife is from Chelan country, and her family bleeds crimson and gray.

Also Smith, and his Wife, kids, family LOVE PULLMAN, WSU.

Also Smith and his family live in Pullman and live in the HOUSE, HOME they OWN in Pullman.

Also Smith's kids, are very ingrained, rooted in the Pullman school system that they LOVE, that is a AWESOME school system, and their kids have a LOT of GOOD FRIENDS.

Also Smith has a DISABLED son, that is also ingrained, rooted in the Pullman community, LOVES the COUGS, goes to the games, gets specialized help, treatment for his disability from Pullman, etc.

So, Mik, how do you know all of this? Yes, wifey is from Chelan and is a BB legend up there. Of course Jen Greeny was from Davenport.

How do you know so much about how his kids feel, and about their passel of friends? Sounds sort of creepy to me.

It is amazing to know that they live in a home that they own in Pullman. Really? How odd for them to live in Pullman in a house that they own. How did you find that out?

Just sayin'

 

[mikalalas]

So, Mik, how do you know all of this? Yes, wifey is from Chelan and is a BB legend up there. Of course Jen Greeny was from Davenport.

How do you know so much about how his kids feel, and about their passel of friends? Sounds sort of creepy to me.

It is amazing to know that they live in a home that they own in Pullman. Really? How odd for them to live in Pullman in a house that they own. How did you find that out?

Just sayin'

There was a either a TV show, documentary, You Tube Video, etc, that talked about all those details through family, friends, interviews with Kyle Smith, his wife, family, friends, etc, that I either happened to accidentally stumbled into, or somebody or here, etc, referred me to the source, video, etc.

 

[mikalalas]

I think many things will go into his decision. His family is very important. Biggest problem is fan support and this level is not staying the same after this season. Not at all sure what his relationship might be with the "current AD"

This. Smith might very well leave, and he could easily stay.

Back when Monson, Few first coached Gonzaga, Gonzaga was either just barely lower, same, just barely slightly better then WSU, Job wise, comparatively.

Back then Few should have left to Duke type jobs, when those jobs tried to hire him.

So why did Few stay? Gonzaga wasn't a good gig like it is now. He could have gotten a higher paying, more prestigious, more successful, more stability, etc, type job, by leaving Gonzaga. So why did he stay?

Because he has ties to the community, liked the community, Gonzaga, etc, and he thought he could build the Gonzaga of back then, into the Gonzaga of today.

As I said before Smith has many reasons to stay, that include his Wife and her family BLEEDING CRIMSON AND GRAY, and being a legend in Eastern WA, and Pullman being a home to his family and kids that have put down roots in the community, and his VERY DISABLED SON.

If Smith is going to leave, the following factors have to be in play.

1. There is uncertainty, because of PAC 12 disintegration, being left behind.

2. NIL, Transfer Portal.

3. Money

4. Smith will have the following kind, type of conversation with his wife. "Honey I got offered this better, higher paying job, then my WSU Job."

Wife: "Will our disabled son still be able to get the highly specialized treatment that he gets here, and will he love the community there just as much as he loves the community here?" If the answer is no, Smith's Wife will insist that stay put here.

"Is that job location a good place to raise a family?" If the answer is no, Smith's Wife will insist on staying put.

"Are or will our kids be too attached to here, and will they be able to put down roots in the new job location?" If the answer is wrong, his wife will insist on staying put.

"Why don't you want to stay here, and Why would you want that new job?" If Smith's answer isn't something like: " Honey I'm over 50. I'm getting close to retirement, and It's (Insert either Kentucky, Kansas, North Carolina, Duke, etc), and I want to see if I can be successful at the highest, best of best level, and be the next Coach K, and the job pays 7 million per year, and I'll be able to goto a final four, and win a championship there, and it's easier to recruit there, and it's a great community, and our kids will love it there, and you will love it there, and it's a great place to raise our family, and it has great specialized treatment for our disabled son, and he will love it there."

Anything less then that kind of situation, and Smith's Wife will probably insist on staying put here.

And it will take time to find such a situation.

Because of that Smith probably stays for another 2 to 4 to 6 to 8 years, even if he makes the NCAA tourny, unless he goes to the Final Four, Final 2, etc.

 

[jourdand]

smith’s wife being from the area would seem to be a plus as far as him staying, but let’s not forget she left and wouldn’t have come back if it wasn’t for her husband’s career. Nobody but the family knows how much they like or don’t like Pullman or the schools, but I can guarantee there are better programs for his autistic son than Pullman schools can provide. 1.6 million a year is a solid retirement job especially in Pullman.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

smith’s wife being from the area would seem to be a plus as far as him staying, but let’s not forget she left and wouldn’t have come back if it wasn’t for her husband’s career. Nobody but the family knows how much they like or don’t like Pullman or the schools, but I can guarantee there are better programs for his autistic son than Pullman schools can provide. 1.6 million a year is a solid retirement job especially in Pullman.

Don't sell Pullman's programs short. The school district is quite renowned. Having a Tier 1 University right there doesn't hurt. But good point on Katie leaving Washington and probably not coming back if not for hubby. BTW she's a cutie.

Mik knows.

 

[jourdand]

WSU’s “ROAR” program which is for developmentally challenged individuals I’m not sure if they have much focus on autism but they very well could but it used to be for 18 and over.

 

[95coug]

Dammit Rich, I didn't realize the game was on last night. I just assumed it was tonight (Thursday). C'mon buddy, be more informative! What do you think your job is around here?

And I wasted the night watching Two and a half Men reruns. Although I did see a couple of Walden/Alan ones that I had never seen. I kind of quit watching after Charlie left.....

Well at least I can tune in to them again tonight!

Everyone else must be doing the same. Attendance is miserable for a team that’s 10-1 at home.

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Everyone else must be doing the same. Attendance is miserable for a team that’s 10-1 at home.

Yeah, attendance is so sad. So I was a student during the Raveling years. Puidokas (I loved him), House, Pollard, Ehlo, and much as he was a total POS, Don Collins. I've posted this before, but when George would stand up and raise his arms, the place went nuts. A LOT of fairly full Beasley crowds during those years.

Then the Sampson days - it was not the same, but there was interest. I remember being there when we beat Cal and Jason Kidd. "Over-rated". Forget the Paul Graham years - "I wear Brooks Brothers suits because I can".

Then the Bennett years. Had season tickets then. Remember when George and others (Harshman, etc?) came back for the "Four Fathers" event. George said "well you have the students back, what about the alumni?" The one thing about the Bennett years - we had recognizable guys. Characters. Weaver, Low, Cowgill, Baynes, Forrest, Rochestie. Who am I missing?

Now? Students don't give a shit. Reserved folks are hanging in there, but in lesser numbers.

I was there - Senior night in 2009:

 

[Loyal Coug1]

Yeah, attendance is so sad. So I was a student during the Raveling years. Puidokas (I loved him), House, Pollard, Ehlo, and much as he was a total POS, Don Collins. I've posted this before, but when George would stand up and raise his arms, the place went nuts. A LOT of fairly full Beasley crowds during those years.

Then the Sampson days - it was not the same, but there was interest. I remember being there when we beat Cal and Jason Kidd. "Over-rated". Forget the Paul Graham years - "I wear Brooks Brothers suits because I can".

Then the Bennett years. Had season tickets then. Remember when George and others (Harshman, etc?) came back for the "Four Fathers" event. George said "well you have the students back, what about the alumni?" The one thing about the Bennett years - we had recognizable guys. Characters. Weaver, Low, Cowgill, Baynes, Forrest, Rochestie. Who am I missing?

Now? Students don't give a shit. Reserved folks are hanging in there, but in lesser numbers.

I was there - Senior night in 2009:

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[Glad Cougar]

Yeah, attendance is so sad. So I was a student during the Raveling years. Puidokas (I loved him), House, Pollard, Ehlo, and much as he was a total POS, Don Collins. I've posted this before, but when George would stand up and raise his arms, the place went nuts. A LOT of fairly full Beasley crowds during those years.

Then the Sampson days - it was not the same, but there was interest. I remember being there when we beat Cal and Jason Kidd. "Over-rated". Forget the Paul Graham years - "I wear Brooks Brothers suits because I can".

Then the Bennett years. Had season tickets then. Remember when George and others (Harshman, etc?) came back for the "Four Fathers" event. George said "well you have the students back, what about the alumni?" The one thing about the Bennett years - we had recognizable guys. Characters. Weaver, Low, Cowgill, Baynes, Forrest, Rochestie. Who am I missing?

Now? Students don't give a shit. Reserved folks are hanging in there, but in lesser numbers.

I was there - Senior night in 2009:

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IIRC, Paul Graham bragged about Armani suits....having two of them. What a disastrous hire he was.

Glad Cougar

 

[Loyal Coug1]

IIRC, Paul Graham bragged about Armani suits....having two of them. What a disastrous hire he was.

Glad Cougar

Oh yeah - Armani. My bad. I bought all my suits at Jaque Pinay. AKA JC Penney.....

 

[Coug90]

Yeah, attendance is so sad. So I was a student during the Raveling years. Puidokas (I loved him), House, Pollard, Ehlo, and much as he was a total POS, Don Collins. I've posted this before, but when George would stand up and raise his arms, the place went nuts. A LOT of fairly full Beasley crowds during those years.

Then the Sampson days - it was not the same, but there was interest. I remember being there when we beat Cal and Jason Kidd. "Over-rated". Forget the Paul Graham years - "I wear Brooks Brothers suits because I can".

Then the Bennett years. Had season tickets then. Remember when George and others (Harshman, etc?) came back for the "Four Fathers" event. George said "well you have the students back, what about the alumni?" The one thing about the Bennett years - we had recognizable guys. Characters. Weaver, Low, Cowgill, Baynes, Forrest, Rochestie. Who am I missing?

Now? Students don't give a shit. Reserved folks are hanging in there, but in lesser numbers.

I was there - Senior night in 2009:

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Deangelo Casto. Guy was an absolute menace defensively and on the boards.

 

[Rich Lewis]

TV is probably the greatest contributor to poor attendance, but there a lot of other factors. Remember back in those days there was always a show whether or not there was a basketball game or not. Cheerleaders flipping all over the place. I can't remember what they called them but a student group doing stuff like Jake and Elwood impression at mid court and throwing tons of shirts into the crowd. Showmen like George and Kevin, and pretty good basketball. Now the cheerleaders stand at the endline and only wave pompoms during timeouts. How many times do we need to see the crimson girls do the same herky jerky dance or watch a couple of kids put on huge jerseys, pants and shoes and make a basket? Rap music so loud you can't even talk to the person sitting next to you. My point, get some atmosphere in the building. Don't know if it would help attendance, but couldn't hurt.

 

[jourdand]

I agree make it an event! Especially on Saturday get the students pumped up to attend, make it worth the drive from Spokane or wherever. It has to be more than just a game otherwise TV is just to easy. Winter obviously complicates things but football makes it a weekend! that has a game as the highlight but much else going on.

 

[Coug90]

I agree make it an event! Especially on Saturday get the students pumped up to attend, make it worth the drive from Spokane or wherever. It has to be more than just a game otherwise TV is just to easy. Winter obviously complicates things but football makes it a weekend! that has a game as the highlight but much else going on.

I’m heading down today! Based on the tix I just looked at lower bowl looks pretty packed, should see best attendance of the year. Hope students show out too, there should be 3-4K just students there for a game like this!

 

[mikalalas]

20 minutes until WSU vs Colorado game time!

 

[mikalalas]

Good Start WSU 18 to CU 10.

WSU good energy, hustle, defense, rebounding, blocks.

 

[Coug1990]

36-30 at the half. Tough game so far.

 

[mikalalas]

Good Start WSU 18 to CU 10.

WSU good energy, hustle, defense, rebounding, blocks.

WSU great first half. Great defense. Great rebounding. Great Energy, hustle, effort. Only 2,3 turnovers. No bad freethrow shooting.

36-30 WSU.

Hopefully WSU has a good 2nd half.

 

[mikalalas]

36-30 at the half. Tough game so far.

Tough game, but WSU is still playing well.

 

[SaveFerris]

Rice/Jone 3-8 and 7 points, but we are still up 6. Wells/Jakimovski 5-8 from 3. Chinyelu knocks down a mid-range and another couple blocks.

 

[kougkurt]

Stay out of foul trouble and we should be ok