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OT: any pilots here....RE: DC plane crash...

Well I think there are 61 people who would disagree with your described awesomeness of the approach over the Potomac. What would possess you to say something like that right now?

And there is nowhere else for a helicopter corridor to be other than right in the landing approach of a major airport? How about anywhere else but that? WTF was a military training flight doing there? No where else to go train?
If you bothered reading you would see an answer to the questions you are asking.

And the approach is pretty awesome. You’re spewing a lot of BS about things you don’t understand. But that’s par for course for you. You know where a landing approach can go with a lot of restricted airspace? Over a river that runs right by the airport. You know where a helicopter corridor can be with a lot of restricted airspace? Over a river.
 
Why not watch the actual videos of the crash before closing your minds and explaining it away as an accident?

Or listen to the interview the pilot gave to a podcaster a day before the crash?
 
The helicopter flight route had a mandate of 200' or below.

The collision occurred at 350'.

HTH
Why is still the question. Pilots in general, and military pilots in particular, and pretty damn good at following procedures and protocols. The helicopter had a transponder on so there should be altitude data of that at least the portion of its flight prior to the collision. The helicopter was not maneuvering from what I've seen. Nor have I heard anything from the control tower telling the helicopter it was too high.
 
There are obviously a lot of avoidable variables that came into play that led to this incident.
  1. It appears that the helicopter was flying at a higher altitude than is mandated for that corridor
  2. They were conducting a proficiency training exercise using night vision equipment in one of the most restricted airspaces in our country. Is there a strategic or tactical reason for this or just lack of thoughtfulness?
  3. The ATC redirected the American Airlines flight from Runway 1 to Runway 33 to allow for more efficient landing times for other aircraft. A common practice that proved deadly here.
  4. There was only one ATC working those flights instead of the two ATC's that is recommended (but not required)
There are undoubtedly a lot of other variables that we aren't aware of. Until more investigation is done, we won't know. One of the saddest things about this was seeing our President use this as a tool to attack DEI procedures without any knowledge of whether or not that it was one of the factors in the event. None of us should be using this as a political talking point. It's f#cking gross and disgusting to do so.
 
AOC is claiming it was due to retaliation for Trump proposing to cut funding. Maybe she’s right, maybe she’s wrong. Jeffries is out today calling for riots in the street to fight Trump.

TDS is skrong
 
AOC is claiming it was due to retaliation for Trump proposing to cut funding. Maybe she’s right, maybe she’s wrong. Jeffries is out today calling for riots in the street to fight Trump.

TDS is skrong
Yeah, pretty surprising response when Trump was publicly blaming democrats while the bodies were still warm.

TDS ain’t what you think it is.
 

When you see an attack on DEI that suggests that dwarfs are part of the problem....you can't take any of it seriously. I have no love for DEI and I'm glad that my company doesn't have any DEI policies but it is objectively moronic to infer in any way that hiring of dwarfs was an obstacle that kept the government from meeting its hiring goals. The stupid sh!t that you people buy into just never ends.
 
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When you see an attack on DEI that suggests that dwarfs are part of the problem....you can't take any of it seriously. I have no love for DEI and I'm glad that my company doesn't have any DEI policies but it is objectively moronic to infer in any way that hiring of dwarfs was an obstacle that kept the government from meeting its hiring goals. The stupid sh!t that you people buy into just never ends.
“Little people” flat. You are so intolerant!
 
Why not watch the actual videos of the crash before closing your minds and explaining it away as an accident?

Or listen to the interview the pilot gave to a podcaster a day before the crash?
The videos show two points of light that approach and then turn into a flash of light. Hard to draw conclusions from that, beyond that there was a crash.

It's pretty easy to see that there were mistakes made, and lots of opportunity for an accident. So why not look at that and recognize that an accident is far more plausible than any intentional act?

Better yet, why not wait until there's some actual evidence, rather than buying into Twitter conspiracies?
 
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If you bothered reading you would see an answer to the questions you are asking.

And the approach is pretty awesome. You’re spewing a lot of BS about things you don’t understand. But that’s par for course for you. You know where a landing approach can go with a lot of restricted airspace? Over a river that runs right by the airport. You know where a helicopter corridor can be with a lot of restricted airspace? Over a river.
Ever post anything that doesn't include an insult or two? And US Senators from both sides are questioning why military helicopters are flying near the airport. Which was my main question. I guess they are just spewing BS as well.

 
Ever post anything that doesn't include an insult or two? And US Senators from both sides are questioning why military helicopters are flying near the airport. Which was my main question. I guess they are just spewing BS as well.

You started this crap. If your skin is so thin that you can't take it, don't dish out it. Your failure to either read or comprehend is your personal failing. Not mine. What possesses you to not read or comprehend, then spew nonsense?

And just to prove how dense you are, gee whiz senators on both sides are flapping their gums about a tragedy. OH MY GOSH! THAT NEVER HAPPENS! DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE AN OVERSIGHT HEARING?!?!?!? GASP! But here is the real question- When it comes to shutting down or restricting flights out of DCA, which is by far the most convenient airport in the DC area, do you think they will do it and make their own lives crappier by to flying in and out of Dulles or BWI?
 
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I’m not a Trump fan and I’m certainly not an apologist for the guy, but using a tragedy as an opportunity to shamelessly campaign is something both parties and mainstream media outlets are despicable about.

Every time there’s a shooting, the first thing you hear is a cry for gun control. If the shooter is white, or Christian, it’s broadcast loudly. If the shooter is black, gay, or trans, it’s suppressed.
 
The videos show two points of light that approach and then turn into a flash of light. Hard to draw conclusions from that, beyond that there was a crash.

It's pretty easy to see that there were mistakes made, and lots of opportunity for an accident. So why not look at that and recognize that an accident is far more plausible than any intentional act?

Better yet, why not wait until there's some actual evidence, rather than buying into Twitter conspiracies?
Without critical thinking skills, you should absolutely wait to be told what to think.
 
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