As if we couldn't f -it up anymore and make ourselves look even stupider.ttps://sports.yahoo.com/pac-12-files-lawsuit-against-mwc-over-pricy-poaching-penalty-172306036.html
Weird, but ok.
It says the Pac-12 told the MWC the poaching fees were illegal during negotiation. That at least gives us a leg to stand on. It makes the math fuzzy for those "committed" to the MWC.As if we couldn't f -it up anymore and make ourselves look even stupider.
That's not what the article says.It says the Pac-12 told the MWC the poaching fees were illegal during negotiation. That at least gives us a leg to stand on. It makes the math fuzzy for those "committed" to the MWC.
And survival.All this for a crummy, lackluster, cobbled-together conference...
The two schools are WSU and OSU. It sounds like they told the MWC those poaching fees were "unenforceable and illegal." Basically they put in their nullification language during the agreement, knowing they would fight it later. Just like Virginia did at its ratification of the Constitution. How'd that work out for them?That's not what the article says.
"The two schools acknowledged during negotiations that the penalty was unenforceable and illegal."
Acknowledged to who - each other? Note the absence of "MWC" in that remark.
Part of the complaint is posted on Brand x. The MWC was basically trying to get two buyouts- one in the form of an exit fee from the departing schools and another from the Pac-12 in the form of a poaching fee. That argument makes sense to me. You get one remedy from the court, not two.The two schools are WSU and OSU. It sounds like they told the MWC those poaching fees were "unenforceable and illegal." Basically they put in their nullification language during the agreement, knowing they would fight it later. Just like Virginia did at its ratification of the Constitution. How'd that work out for them?
Seriously...is it really worth it at this point? Kill the Pac name. That is dead and dusted. It's just pretend.And survival.
I wonder where they got the complaint. I've been on the Northern District website and can't find the filing. Nor anything on the Pac12 website. I can't even get ChatGPT, Copilot, or Gemini to find it for me.Part of the complaint is posted on Brand x. The MWC was basically trying to get two buyouts- one in the form of an exit fee from the departing schools and another from the Pac-12 in the form of a poaching fee. That argument makes sense to me. You get one remedy from the court, not two.
For now. In a decade or so, they'll forget all about that. And then what's on the website will be all that is remembered:Seriously...is it really worth it at this point? Kill the Pac name. That is dead and dusted. It's just pretend.
"Hey! We're the Pac(#). You'll never be able to figure out we are the MWC 2.0! "
They can say that, but anyone that watches collegiate athletics will know that whatever combination of schools is in the conference will know the majority of those accolades left with the old conference members.For now. In a decade or so, they'll forget all about that. And then what's on the website will be all that is remembered:
"Known as the Conference of Champions®, the Pac-12 takes great pride in its collective history of academic excellence and success in collegiate athletics which extends beyond classrooms, fields & courts. As the only conference to win 500 NCAA Championships, the Pac-12 has seen a total of 514 of its teams crowned NCAA champions throughout its storied history (through the 2023-24 season)."
Even the B1G and $EC can't claim that.
I shoulda put some emojis there for sarcasm.They can say that, but anyone that watches collegiate athletics will know that whatever combination of schools is in the conference will know the majority of those accolades left with the old conference members.
Woosh, my fault, haha.I shoulda put some emojis there for sarcasm.
But it does expose some ambiguity. Will the B1G recalculate their number of championships with U$C, FUCLA, and the mutts? Will the ACC add in Stanford and Cal championships? Do the championships belong to the team? Or to the conference?
Yawn. I suggest focusing on whether the worst FBS team in Washington can win its conference game in New Jersey this weekend.Pac 2 shady as hell. I thought they were the moral standard bearers but they have now cemented themselves as worse than any of the schools that departed.
A more savage move would be to give our new schools half shares so we can have a doormat to kick for the next half decade. We are still figuring this conference building business out I guess!Yawn. I suggest focusing on whether the worst FBS team in Washington can win its conference game in New Jersey this weekend.
He's not a federal judge, he's retiring this fall, and as we all know he is a Coug. New judge will be a Pullman Attorney TBD.Oregon Stater here. On the Beaver Boards, the Beavs think the PAC-12 should win as the no poaching clause apparently violates anti-trust laws.
Now, whatever happened to Judge Libey? I thought he was a pretty reasonable judge to deal with once before. I kind of liked that judge.
Umm so why aren't FSU and Clemson arguing the same thing? Although this is a relatively new law. Only been around since 1890. Maybe they haven't heard of it yet - it is the South after all.
You are worse at spinning than Karin Grey Poupon back there in the DC Swamp. All it takes to prove you horribly wrong is to point out that the schools that left the PAC (like the mistake from montlake) all left for $$$, while the 2 schools that are left are simply fighting for survival.Pac 2 shady as hell. I thought they were the moral standard bearers but they have now cemented themselves as worse than any of the schools that departed.
Definitely about the money for the cuogs. They can survive without destroying another conference, silly to think otherwise. Really doesn't get any lower. You have become worse than that which you claim to hate...You are worse at spinning than Karin Grey Poupon back there in the DC Swamp. All it takes to prove you horribly wrong is to point out that the schools that left the PAC (like the mistake from montlake) all left for $$$, while the 2 schools that are left are simply fighting for survival.
Now what is that word that people use when someone sells themselves for money? Oh, yes- prostitution! How does it feel to be a slut whore, moonie?
24-19. F off.Definitely about the money for the cuogs. They can survive without destroying another conference, silly to think otherwise. Really doesn't get any lower. You have become worse than that which you claim to hate...
Interesting. It makes sense on a certain level - there can be penalties for breaching a contract, but those penalties shouldn’t exceed the value of the contract. Creating massive exit fees does that and traps the participant into the relationship.
Pac 2 shady as hell. I thought they were the moral standard bearers but they have now cemented themselves as worse than any of the schools that departed.
Ah, apparently the truth really does hurt.You really should just shut your f#cking mouth, you traitorous piece of sh!t. It is going to be f#cking glorious when you turn into the Nebraska of the West.
Ah, apparently the truth really does hurt.
You mean like the Traitor 10, B10, B12 and the ACC did their best to destroy the PAC12 because of money? The PAC12 learned its lesson from the best and your hypocrisy knows no limits.Definitely about the money for the cuogs. They can survive without destroying another conference, silly to think otherwise. Really doesn't get any lower. You have become worse than that which you claim to hate...
It is not the exit fees at issue, it is the “poaching “fees. Also have seen other places confusing GOR with this suit, but those are specifically tied to media rights. Not sure how it all works out, but some of the OSU beaver lawyer folks seem to thing a settlement is coming.Why are the exit fees against the PAC-12 teams enforceable but MWC and ACC teams not?
USC, Washington, etc. attorneys all got duped?
I guess it does, West RutgersAh, apparently the truth really does hurt.
You have to read the post I replied to for context, follow along. Yes, we left for the money 100%, nothing hypocritical about that. I was pointing out the posters hypocrisy. If you are supporting the cuogs current moves while criticizing UW's choice, you are the hypocrite.You mean like the Traitor 10, B10, B12 and the ACC did their best to destroy the PAC12 because of money? The PAC12 learned its lesson from the best and your hypocrisy knows no limits.
You’re fighting somebody who lives on the Ave, probably in a ⛺️You really should just shut your f#cking mouth, you traitorous piece of sh!t. It is going to be f#cking glorious when you turn into the Nebraska of the West.
“We”?You have to read the post I replied to for context, follow along. Yes, we left for the money 100%, nothing hypocritical about that. If you are supporting the cuogs current moves while criticizing UW's choice, you are the hypocrite.
Speed option to the boundary on 4th down.Pac 2 shady as hell. I thought they were the moral standard bearers but they have now cemented themselves as worse than any of the schools that departed.
You're dumber than your coach on 4th down.You have to read the post I replied to for context, follow along. Yes, we left for the money 100%, nothing hypocritical about that. I was pointing out the posters hypocrisy. If you are supporting the cuogs current moves while criticizing UW's choice, you are the hypocrite.
Indiana Western has a catchy ring to it.I guess it does, West Rutgers
No, not really the same. UW left a fully functioning conference for more money. WSU and OSU have recruited new members to rebuild a conference decimated by defections.You have to read the post I replied to for context, follow along. Yes, we left for the money 100%, nothing hypocritical about that. I was pointing out the posters hypocrisy. If you are supporting the cuogs current moves while criticizing UW's choice, you are the hypocrite.