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Pendergast linked to WSU job

Update from Football Scoop on DC

http://footballscoop.com/news/big-week-three-former-usc-assistants/

"Pendergast remains in the running for Washington State's defensive coordinator position (with a small number of others). With a decade of experience calling plays in the NFL and the Pac-12, Pendergast would be a good hire for Mike Leach in his quest to pair the nation's seventh-rated offense with something other than the nation's 99th-best defense. We hear a decision is expected in a few days."
 
Did anyone actually figure out if there were terms of his USC departure that made it better to hire him on Date X than Date Y from a financial standpoint?
 
He's obviously not going to have the same level of talent available that he had at sc, if he comes to WSU. I'll remain skeptical until I see with my own eyes the defensive improvement. My wish is that WSU lands a D Cood who can install an attacking, killer D.

Is that really asking too much?
 
Originally posted by wazzubruce:

He's obviously not going to have the same level of talent available that he had at sc, if he comes to WSU. I'll remain skeptical until I see with my own eyes the defensive improvement. My wish is that WSU lands a D Cood who can install an attacking, killer D.

Is that really asking too much?
A DC who made the super bowl just a few years ago doesn't impress you? OK then...
 
Re: an attackin D ?

Imo that would be one that didnt include puttin 4 near 300 lbrs on the field at once, calling one of them a Buck. pretending that this was gonna stop passing and or spread option teams. 2 300lbrs inside should be enough. everyone else has to run.
 
Originally posted by YakiCoug:
This hire would be a headliner.
Where?
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Pendergast was noted as a guy that wasn't an all-star recruiter.

My question is: is he a guy that can do more with less? SC always has talent. In my opinion, we need a scheme that is really hard for a QB to adjust too. Utah comes to mind.
 
Originally posted by ttowncoug:
Pendergast was noted as a guy that wasn't an all-star recruiter.

My question is: is he a guy that can do more with less? SC always has talent. In my opinion, we need a scheme that is really hard for a QB to adjust too. Utah comes to mind.
I think a lot of people put a little too much stock into recruiting as a defensive coordinator. It's more of a bonus than anything.
 
Originally posted by Britton Ransford:
Originally posted by ttowncoug:
Pendergast was noted as a guy that wasn't an all-star recruiter.

My question is: is he a guy that can do more with less? SC always has talent. In my opinion, we need a scheme that is really hard for a QB to adjust too. Utah comes to mind.
I think a lot of people put a little too much stock into recruiting as a defensive coordinator. It's more of a bonus than anything.
Agreed.
 
Originally posted by Britton Ransford:
Originally posted by ttowncoug:
Pendergast was noted as a guy that wasn't an all-star recruiter.

My question is: is he a guy that can do more with less? SC always has talent. In my opinion, we need a scheme that is really hard for a QB to adjust too. Utah comes to mind.
I think a lot of people put a little too much stock into recruiting as a defensive coordinator. It's more of a bonus than anything.
Yep, most DC's are average to below average recruiters. Most staff only have two or three really good recruiters anyway. Currently, that would be coaches Wilson, Salave'a and Simmons.
 
Originally posted by Britton Ransford:
Originally posted by ttowncoug:
Pendergast was noted as a guy that wasn't an all-star recruiter.

My question is: is he a guy that can do more with less? SC always has talent. In my opinion, we need a scheme that is really hard for a QB to adjust too. Utah comes to mind.
I think a lot of people put a little too much stock into recruiting as a defensive coordinator. It's more of a bonus than anything.
I really agree with this. I just want someone who can coach the kids up and put together a good game plan. I'm sure he knows how to text and place a phone call.
 
Originally posted by Coug Brand:

Originally posted by Britton Ransford:
Originally posted by ttowncoug:
Pendergast was noted as a guy that wasn't an all-star recruiter.

My question is: is he a guy that can do more with less? SC always has talent. In my opinion, we need a scheme that is really hard for a QB to adjust too. Utah comes to mind.
I think a lot of people put a little too much stock into recruiting as a defensive coordinator. It's more of a bonus than anything.
I really agree with this. I just want someone who can coach the kids up and put together a good game plan. I'm sure he knows how to text and place a phone call.
Pendergast was also not a bad recruiter at USC or Cal, for that matter. Surely he'd be 100 times the recruiter than the last defensive coordinator in Pullman.

I have seen, though, that Pendergast doesn't particularly like recruiting, especially having worked in the NFL extensively, which works out great at Washington State because there's two of the top recruiters in the Pac-12 on defense already.
 
Originally posted by Britton Ransford:

Originally posted by Coug Brand:

Originally posted by Britton Ransford:
Originally posted by ttowncoug:
Pendergast was noted as a guy that wasn't an all-star recruiter.

My question is: is he a guy that can do more with less? SC always has talent. In my opinion, we need a scheme that is really hard for a QB to adjust too. Utah comes to mind.
I think a lot of people put a little too much stock into recruiting as a defensive coordinator. It's more of a bonus than anything.
I really agree with this. I just want someone who can coach the kids up and put together a good game plan. I'm sure he knows how to text and place a phone call.
Pendergast was also not a bad recruiter at USC or Cal, for that matter. Surely he'd be 100 times the recruiter than the last defensive coordinator in Pullman.

I have seen, though, that Pendergast doesn't particularly like recruiting, especially having worked in the NFL extensively, which works out great at Washington State because there's two of the top recruiters in the Pac-12 on defense already.
Besides, while one coach may be the main recruiter, other coaches to get involved regarding a player. We have all seen the photos of a player with multiple coaches in their living room or Britton reporting on the pay board that several coaches visited a recruit.
 
Brand X reports that Moos said on radio today that the DC would be announced within the next two weeks. That does not sound like a Pendergast hire to me.I would be happy if he is the man,but i am seriously doubting it.
 
Moos said in Monday he expected to have some by the end of the week, start of next week and it to be a name hire. Unless he went on the radio again and said something different.
 
Originally posted by ElComanche:
Brand X reports that Moos said on radio today that the DC would be announced within the next two weeks. That does not sound like a Pendergast hire to me.I would be happy if he is the man,but i am seriously doubting it.
Yeah, I haven't heard this at all. I listened to his radio show on Monday that said what Brent mentioned below, that a hire would be expected to be announced either late this week or early next week.

I also wouldn't put too much stock into Moos' timeline for a hire on a radio show. I don't know how that benefits him at all other than to get past the question and on to talking about other things.
 
I trust that you guys are right. I am ready to get this over with. What are the odds of landing Pendergast? .I still say that he is a long shot at 10-1. i would put my money on my dark horse Klineman at 5-2.Of course i do not know who else may be in the race.
 
Originally posted by Brent H.:
Moos said in Monday he expected to have some by the end of the week, start of next week and it to be a name hire. Unless he went on the radio again and said something different.
I didn't hear the Moos show, but just to be clear, are you sure that Moos said that it would be a name hire and not that the hire would have a name?
 
Has anyone noticed that 9 of the 13 prospects who have ...

committed and/or signed with WSU since early December play defense? Clearly, not having a d-coordinator is killing us.
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This post was edited on 1/8 8:43 PM by YakiCoug
 
Leach and company are doing a great job of recruiting. It seems like all is falling in place. Now all the cougs have to do is to win games. I am hopeful that the new DC can bring the defensive talent together. The cougs will win more games next year. I also agree that the new DC will be a name coach.,Of course,everyone has a name.
 
Looks good to me.

At this stage in the rebuild he would make a solid hire and a lot of sense.
 
Re: Has anyone noticed that 9 of the 13 prospects who have ...


Originally posted by YakiCoug:
committed and/or signed with WSU since early December play defense? Clearly, not having a d-coordinator is killing us.
rolleye0005.r191677.gif


This post was edited on 1/8 8:43 PM by YakiCoug
Interestingly, being down 2 coaches has helped us in recruiting because it allowed Leach to send Jarrail Jackson & Graham Harrell out on the trail to recruit. Haven't heard much on Harrell, but Jackson sounds like a pretty darn good recruiter. Certainly better than Breske.
 
Re: Has anyone noticed that 9 of the 13 prospects who have ...

Jackson and Harrell have done a great job of recruiting, by naming a new DC now, one of those guys would have to be pulled off the recruiting trail, which might disrupt some progress that has already been made. So as many people seem to be in a panic because we have not named a DC, there actually maybe be a method to not naming someone at this time. It will all work out in the long run, I do believe this staff has it under control, we will all be pleasantly suprised in a week or so.
 
Re: Has anyone noticed that 9 of the 13 prospects who have ...


Originally posted by 405 Coug:
Jackson and Harrell have done a great job of recruiting, by naming a new DC now, one of those guys would have to be pulled off the recruiting trail, which might disrupt some progress that has already been made. So as many people seem to be in a panic because we have not named a DC, there actually maybe be a method to not naming someone at this time. It will all work out in the long run, I do believe this staff has it under control, we will all be pleasantly suprised in a week or so.
To be fair to the process, no one has been on the road for almost a month since it's the dead period. JJ Jackson is a very good recruiter and regardless of what happens with additional coaches, he'll still be heavily involved with recruiting in the digital space.

Many programs are hiring "digital media" recruiters to do a lot of recruiting on Facebook and Twitter, however Washington State was ahead of the curve in that aspect, actually.

Agreed, I think a lot of people making blind assumptions about this hire will end up pleasantly surprised sooner or later, which really doesn't matter at this juncture. It's too big of a hire to rush.


This post was edited on 1/9 10:14 AM by Britton Ransford
 
Re: Has anyone noticed that 9 of the 13 prospects who have ...

Originally posted by YakiCoug:
committed and/or signed with WSU since early December play defense? Clearly, not having a d-coordinator is killing us.
rolleye0005.r191677.gif



This post was edited on 1/8 8:43 PM by YakiCoug
Leach puts all athletes on the offensive side. Maybe that's not actually true, but someone could PERCEIVE that as possibly true, which combined with Leach's actual or perceived limited connections and/or coaching tree on the defensive side of the ball clearly leads to the apocalypse, especially if your QB is an underclassmen.

In conclusion, the end is near. Dig your own graves because we're all going to die after the program is disbanded and the facilities are burned to the ground.
 
Some could argue...those who believe we should have one announced by now...

that it has nothing to do with recruiting and the athletes they are getting, but the quality of the candidate. Like recruiting where Biggs says you better pick a chair cause the music is about to stop. Some could say all the viable candidates have been picked through. Or maybe better put, all the big names that seem to please the masses.

In terms of recruiting, not having a DC announced only gave one person an excuse to back out of his commitment-Austin Joyner. Whether it is husky arrogance or real depth of knowledge I do not know, but people who follow Husky recruiting were on KJR and they said after Joyner made his commitment that he will never end up at WSU, and when the UW offered that is where he would go. Dumb luck, solid analysis, or husky arrogance I do not know. But they were spot on.

As for the rest of the commitments clearly they want to play football, and they trust Leach to get them someone who will teach it and put them in position to make plays. Those are the kind of players you want at the end of the day.

In terms of how much time it has taken. I guess for some Moos set an expectation. He made it sound like in 7-10 days all these coaches will be jumping to get in our bed. If he simply said we will take as long as it takes to get the right fit, then I would suggest some of the masses would have different expectations.

The other issue with time is that it is not typical. Most of the time these things are locked up in two weeks. As for me, other than thinking it is longer than normal, and some things happened behind the scenes, I am patient and have seen people mock USC when Carroll was their fourth to fifth choice, and ASU when Graham was at least as low as their third choice if not their fourth. These things have a way to work out.
This post was edited on 1/9 11:07 AM by CougEd
 
A legit question...why?

I say legit as I don't know enough Clancy. I know he coached at Berkeley, but they were falling apart at that point. And he was at USC for just one year. I know Dennis Green liked him a lot.

Who are his protégé's? Who are people he may hire at some point if he finds coach x or y isn't up it. Who will coach the DB's? And what will he run at WSU?
 
Re: Some could argue...those who believe we should have one announced by now...

Originally posted by CougEd:
that it has nothing to do with recruiting and the athletes they are getting, but the quality of the candidate. Like recruiting where Biggs says you better pick a chair cause the music is about to stop. Some could say all the viable candidates have been picked through. Or maybe better put, all the big names that seem to please the masses.

In terms of recruiting, not having a DC announced only gave one person an excuse to back out of his commitment-Austin Joyner. Whether it is husky arrogance or real depth of knowledge I do not know, but people who follow Husky recruiting were on KJR and they said after Joyner made his commitment that he will never end up at WSU, and when the UW offered that is where he would go. Dumb luck, solid analysis, or husky arrogance I do not know. But they were spot on.

As for the rest of the commitments clearly they want to play football, and they trust Leach to get them someone who will teach it and put them in position to make plays. Those are the kind of players you want at the end of the day.

In terms of how much time it has taken. I guess for some Moos set an expectation. He made it sound like in 7-10 days all these coaches will be jumping to get in our bed. If he simply said we will take as long as it takes to get the right fit, then I would suggest some of the masses would have different expectations.

The other issue with time is that it is not typical. Most of the time these things are locked up in two weeks. As for me, other than thinking it is longer than normal, and some things happened behind the scenes, I am patient and have seen people mock USC when Carroll was their fourth to fifth choice, and ASU when Graham was at least as low as their third choice if not their fourth. These things have a way to work out.

This post was edited on 1/9 11:07 AM by CougEd
Your patience is noted. Along with the fact that you post on a daily basis that the DC hire should have been locked up a month ago, you've never seen it take 45 days, etc.
 
Re: Some could argue...those who believe we should have one announced by now...

Don't forget Bill Moos, bearer of false expectation. If he hadn't said it would be quick, there wouldn't be these unfulfilled expectations- the hallmark of the Moos/Leach era.
 
Re: Some could argue...those who believe we should have one announced by now...

Originally posted by dgibbons:
Originally posted by CougEd:
that it has nothing to do with recruiting and the athletes they are getting, but the quality of the candidate. Like recruiting where Biggs says you better pick a chair cause the music is about to stop. Some could say all the viable candidates have been picked through. Or maybe better put, all the big names that seem to please the masses.

In terms of recruiting, not having a DC announced only gave one person an excuse to back out of his commitment-Austin Joyner. Whether it is husky arrogance or real depth of knowledge I do not know, but people who follow Husky recruiting were on KJR and they said after Joyner made his commitment that he will never end up at WSU, and when the UW offered that is where he would go. Dumb luck, solid analysis, or husky arrogance I do not know. But they were spot on.

As for the rest of the commitments clearly they want to play football, and they trust Leach to get them someone who will teach it and put them in position to make plays. Those are the kind of players you want at the end of the day.

In terms of how much time it has taken. I guess for some Moos set an expectation. He made it sound like in 7-10 days all these coaches will be jumping to get in our bed. If he simply said we will take as long as it takes to get the right fit, then I would suggest some of the masses would have different expectations.

The other issue with time is that it is not typical. Most of the time these things are locked up in two weeks. As for me, other than thinking it is longer than normal, and some things happened behind the scenes, I am patient and have seen people mock USC when Carroll was their fourth to fifth choice, and ASU when Graham was at least as low as their third choice if not their fourth. These things have a way to work out.

This post was edited on 1/9 11:07 AM by CougEd
Your patience is noted. Along with the fact that you post on a daily basis that the DC hire should have been locked up a month ago, you've never seen it take 45 days, etc.
Spot on. Repetitive and impatient, insinuating something is wrong.
This post was edited on 1/9 11:38 AM by YakiCoug
 
Re: Some could argue...those who believe we should have one announced by now...


Originally posted by CougEd:
that it has nothing to do with recruiting and the athletes they are getting, but the quality of the candidate. Like recruiting where Biggs says you better pick a chair cause the music is about to stop. Some could say all the viable candidates have been picked through. Or maybe better put, all the big names that seem to please the masses.

In terms of recruiting, not having a DC announced only gave one person an excuse to back out of his commitment-Austin Joyner. Whether it is husky arrogance or real depth of knowledge I do not know, but people who follow Husky recruiting were on KJR and they said after Joyner made his commitment that he will never end up at WSU, and when the UW offered that is where he would go. Dumb luck, solid analysis, or husky arrogance I do not know. But they were spot on.

As for the rest of the commitments clearly they want to play football, and they trust Leach to get them someone who will teach it and put them in position to make plays. Those are the kind of players you want at the end of the day.

In terms of how much time it has taken. I guess for some Moos set an expectation. He made it sound like in 7-10 days all these coaches will be jumping to get in our bed. If he simply said we will take as long as it takes to get the right fit, then I would suggest some of the masses would have different expectations.

The other issue with time is that it is not typical. Most of the time these things are locked up in two weeks. As for me, other than thinking it is longer than normal, and some things happened behind the scenes, I am patient and have seen people mock USC when Carroll was their fourth to fifth choice, and ASU when Graham was at least as low as their third choice if not their fourth. These things have a way to work out.
This post was edited on 1/9 11:07 AM by CougEd
I can't imagine what would happen if someone ever went against the grain. The sky is falling in Pullman, apparently.
 
In typing the name Clancy in the search engine Yahoo. It started to populate the field before I was finished. Just typing Clancy, several people popped up like Tom Clancy, Clancy Pendergast, but also Abigail Clancy. My vote for new DC is Abigail Clancy.
 
Re: Some could argue...those who believe we should have one announced by now...


Originally posted by wulffui:
Don't forget Bill Moos, bearer of false expectation. If he hadn't said it would be quick, there wouldn't be these unfulfilled expectations- the hallmark of the Moos/Leach era.
BINGO.
 
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