Yeah because everybody loves watching a place that covered up child rape. Gtfo
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Yeah because everybody loves watching a place that covered up child rape. Gtfo
Penn State did not play any FCS teams APP State is a bowl team Kent State is in the MAC. I'm not going to sit here and say PSU deserves to be in, all they did was beat the teams they should except for MSU and lost to two good teams. Not a bad year, about what I expected we lose like 4 guys who played at all this year. I think WSU and PSU are very similar and for reasons discussed PSU would get the nod. All of this conversation, however will be for not because if Oklahoma gets in then Texas who lost to Maryland because of conference tie will be playing in the Sugar Bowl . We need to move to an 8 team playoff because to amny deserving programs are getting left out right now and conference championships are worthless.
The PAC has perhaps a half dozen good to very good teams, but no great teams. We also have no genuine cupcakes and play 9 league games. The playoff doesn’t reward that. College football is still the best thing going, but less fun than it was before the BCS and playoff. Our traditional Rose, Orange and Sugar Bowls were more fun. Tough OOC schedules didn’t destroy your chance to win your league. Money changes everything, as Ms. Lauper says.
This might be unpopular but there is to much dam money in this sport for these kids not to get paid.
They should, but we got the whole Title 9 thing to do deal with and schools that run in the red, like us couldn't pay for them. But they need to be paid of their likeness. Minshew should be making money off Wazzu but he can't. That's ridiculous.
Let the NFL start some minor league programs. I’m good with not forcing football players to go to school in order to pursue a professional career.
This thread makes me think about when a Coug team in the past ended up 7-4 and Notre Dame ended up 6-6 and the coach of ND said it wasn't proper to let a 6-6 team get in but that he would let the players on the team vote for it.
The players voted YES and WSU stayed home.
Point is that ND should have never been offered and a 10-2 team this year should be in the top 12 especially when they don't play a pushover in week 10 or 11 like the SEC.
The players voted YES and WSU stayed home.
Point is that ND should have never been offered and a 10-2 team this year should be in the top 12 especially when they don't play a pushover in week 10 or 11 like the SEC.
AND how's this.....they get more money in this minor league IF they've completed their degree.
I don’t want people coming to college who would prefer not to be there. Baseball has been operating this way forever.
Wyoming is bowl eligible. SJSU is 1-11, Kent State is 2-10. Eastern Washington may be better than any of them, including App. State.
They get free tuition, room and board, stipends, books, medical care, free tutoring, training table meals cooked by chefs, top notch nutrition and strength and conditioning support, and all the school branded clothing they could possibly ever wear. They are being compensated.
Or just let the NFL develop football players who would never darken a college admissions office’s doorstep if they had their druthers. You don’t become a professional boxer by going to college. No reason to require it of football players.
So everyone who doesn’t go to college is being exploited? I hope my plumber doesn’t get wind of this.
SO, the plumber is an athlete who COULD of been an athlete? A well educated plumber is of greater use to society than your ignorant former athlete.Listen to the song.
Do you have a point struggling to free itself of your interest in bad music? Not everyone should go to college. Not everyone needs to either.
So, you want to exploit them and criticize them at the same time. Good job huskie ....keep going. Every band member in that group have been rated the top 50 in each of their categories...lead singer, bass, drummer and lead guitarist...
My answer? You are an ingnoranus.
It's pretty obvious you don't equate athletic ability with the right an athlete has to get an education.
I'm sure you're killing it in some parallel universe, but my argument is that college shouldn't be mandatory for people who would choose not to attend. The NFL can afford to do exactly what MLB and the NBA do and develop its own talent from 18 and 19 year olds who want to earn a living playing a sport but don't care about college. I have no idea what your argument is.
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My argument is that they should be garnted an education and given scholarship for their athletic abilities and obviously....you don't.
Parallel to your own. First time you've heard of Living Colour? they opened up for the Rolling Stones in 1989....igoranus.
Who's arguing against athletic scholarships? You should probably reread the thread.
Did the Rolling Stones all go to college, or were they exploited?
Mick went to the London School of Economics as did John Kennedy. Stick around...you'll have an education yet.
Fro... they can make money in minor league football. All the NCAA is a farm system for the NFL and they have zero cost to develop players .
Some people aren’t made for school. The minor league system serves as a trade school.
While I would hope everyone values their education I remember Mike Utkey uttered these words, “if I didn’t have to go to class to be elgible I wouldn’t . I am going to be a carpenter after I graduate”. What was learned is life can throw you a huge curveball and an education comes in handy .
It doesn't matter if the Pac does well in bowl season or non-conference games. It doesn't matter if the SEC does poorly in bowl season and non-conference. Both have happened in recent years and it changes nothing. The narrative resets for the SEC when the preseason polls come out. The preseason polls are the key to everything. You combine having most of your league in the top 25 preseason with zero chance to lose a game in the first 3 weeks of playing FCS schools and you have the perfect recipe every year.
Even if the Pac got the preseason poll respect, our early season non-conference schedules are too risky to avoid losses. We actually play equal talent in the first month of the season.
But it won't change. It would take a run that lasted many years at this point or USC to turn back into Pete Carrol's USC and I don't think either of those things are possible. It can't just be a year or two. It would have to be a trend of 3-5 years of domination before the anything would change. The first 1-3 years the Pac would be starting over fighting the uphill battle of a lack of preseason top 25 teams. That alone makes it virtually impossible for things to match up just right for the conference. The only way to make this happen is for the PAC to rig it's own conference so that the traditional powers have every advantage to win. I don't think anyone here would want that.
I reluctantly find myself disagreeing with the majority of the board and siding with a husky. I believe that what some are missing is that the proposal is not eliminating the educational opportunity for athletes but providing an alternate choice for those who either are not interested in college or lack the academic skills to succeed there. A two tier system, college and trade school educations. Nothing wrong with trade schools. Someone mentioned plumbers. Those guys are paid well, very well. The guys collecting our garbage do quite nicely. Certainly better than most liberal arts graduates. This country needs more skilled craftsmen and less sociologists and art history majors.
As far as selling a college experience is concerned, that is on the college recruiters. "Play for us in the Pac12/Big 12 etc. and you will have something to fall back on for the rest of your life." If that does not seem attractive to the kid then O.K. But give them a choice. And the NFL can be required by public opinion to provide a basic education for those in the proposed minor league to prepare them for the basics of life. Those who choose the trade school option can be replace by players with an honest interest in a college education.
Someone mentioned that they do not want kids in college who do not want to be there. I agree. They do not want to be there and we do not want them there. I fail to see the problem. We need to stop forcing square pegs into round holes. Provide a choice. Athletic participation and a college education or football and a basic understanding of life's hurdles.
NFL franchises are farting through silk and getting a free training for their employees. Enough! Let them share some of the cost.
