Root for UW to win the Rose for Pac 12 pride?

[OrangeGravy]

I'm of the opinion that the only thing that matters (90%) to a conference's reputation is how the teams perform that have even somewhat of a national awareness. This bowl season for the Pac, to me, rides on the backs of UW, UO, and Stanford. Those are the only teams that outsiders have acknowledged as being good in the past. If they each win it help the conference rep. If everyone else wins it helps, but to a much lesser extent. Now if those 3 win and everyone else wins that gives the rep an extra boost. Conversely if those 3 lose and everyone else wins, it's a push nationally speaking.

So do you care enough about the conference rep to root for UW?

It's a tough call for me because I hate OSU/Urban, so I'm neutral right now. I hope Oregon and Stanford do damage.

 

[FnuLnu]

1. Perception is all about USC and UCLA, nationally nobody has ever given a rat ass about the UW.
2. Think of the children.

 

[OrangeGravy]

1. Perception is all about USC and UCLA, nationally nobody has ever given a rat ass about the UW.
2. Think of the children.

In this case it's more about Ohio State's reputation then UW. If they were playing Northwestern it wouldn't matter

 

[Flatlandcoug]

I understand that it's "good" for the conference for UW to win the Rose Bowl. That said, when you have a jackhole husky douchebag like CohesiveDiarrhea show up on our site after the Apple Cup, you realize how important it is for the Huskies to lose. Front running, t-shirt wearing, mouth breathers from GRCC who clown around on opposing teams message boards are the only reason that you should need to realize how entitled and pathetic the Husky fanbase is. F#ck those guys and their football team.

 

[Cougatron]

I hope Urban Meyer does twice as bad as he did to Harbaugh.

 

[BiggsCoug]

No Coug fan cheers for the uw.

 

[earldacoug]

The U Dump can $uck it !! Never root for them ever. I hope Ahio State beats them by 100 points.

 

[Coug1990]

Um......No!

 

[YakiCoug]

I'm of the opinion that the only thing that matters (90%) to a conference's reputation is how the teams perform that have even somewhat of a national awareness. This bowl season for the Pac, to me, rides on the backs of UW, UO, and Stanford. Those are the only teams that outsiders have acknowledged as being good in the past. If they each win it help the conference rep. If everyone else wins it helps, but to a much lesser extent. Now if those 3 win and everyone else wins that gives the rep an extra boost. Conversely if those 3 lose and everyone else wins, it's a push nationally speaking.

So do you care enough about the conference rep to root for UW?

It's a tough call for me because I hate OSU/Urban, so I'm neutral right now. I hope Oregon and Stanford do damage.

I root for two teams: WSU, and ANY team playing the huskies, the Edmonds Ediots being the exception.

 

[OrangeGravy]

It's no longer an issue. Ohio State is announcing Urban retirement from football later today. They're gonna stomp a mud hole UW for sure now I would gues

 

[TSKCoug]

Hell no! And even were the Pac-12 to win all their bowl games for the next few seasons, while the conference might be slightly better regarded by the national media, it would still be very distantly behind the SEC. The only thing that I can see that might change perceptions, a little, would be if some Pac12 schools won the next few National Championships.

 

[OrangeGravy]

Hell no! And even were the Pac-12 to win all their bowl games for the next few seasons, while the conference might be slightly better regarded by the national media, it would still be very distantly behind the SEC. The only thing that I can see that might change perceptions, a little, would be if some Pac12 schools won the next few National Championships.

I agree. It would take a few years of winning it to move anything significantly.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Hell no! And even were the Pac-12 to win all their bowl games for the next few seasons, while the conference might be slightly better regarded by the national media, it would still be very distantly behind the SEC. The only thing that I can see that might change perceptions, a little, would be if some Pac12 schools won the next few National Championships.

The PAC 12 has allowed the media to brand it for them. Michael Scott has lost control. His conference is now at the mercy of what the media wants to push as its narrative.

The PAC 12 needs to get rid of Michael Scott and hire Donald Trump. Get someone in the office that skewers the failing ESPN on twitter. Get somene that isnt afraid to call out other conferences for their bad teams ~ by name! Someone that isnt afraid to be the bad guy and dog the soft SEC for their lack of travel, their soft non conference games, their rigging of the CFP election.

You cannot allow ESPN to deliver whatever fake news it wants because it is colluding with the SEC. They have rigged the election in favor of their own interests. Having a conf commish that doesnt knuckle up and fight for your school, like AD Chun, is hurting the conference.

If you wanna get the Big Ten, Big 12, ACC and SEC on PAC 12 campuses EVERY YEAR to play it isnt gonna be by being nice. You have to challenge their manhood, dog them like Clubber Lang, create an US vs THEM mentality across the PAC 12... You know, like WWE. Sound crazy? Yes. Drastic times call for drastic measures.

 

[OrangeGravy]

The PAC 12 has allowed the media to brand it for them. Michael Scott has lost control. His conference is now at the mercy of what the media wants to push as its narrative.

The PAC 12 needs to get rid of Michael Scott and hire Donald Trump. Get someone in the office that skewers the failing ESPN on twitter. Get somene that isnt afraid to call out other conferences for their bad teams ~ by name! Someone that isnt afraid to be the bad guy and dog the soft SEC for their lack of travel, their soft non conference games, their rigging of the CFP election.

You cannot allow ESPN to deliver whatever fake news it wants because it is colluding with the SEC. They have rigged the election in favor of their own interests. Having a conf commish that doesnt knuckle up and fight for your school, like AD Chun, is hurting the conference.

If you wanna get the Big Ten, Big 12, ACC and SEC on PAC 12 campuses EVERY YEAR to play it isnt gonna be by being nice. You have to challenge their manhood, dog them like Clubber Lang, create an US vs THEM mentality across the PAC 12... You know, like WWE. Sound crazy? Yes. Drastic times call for drastic measures.

It really is the only way to change it, but the University presidents would never put someone in that chair that would do that. I'm pretty sure that most of the presidents are plenty fine with how things are for the most part.They only have a small fraction of fans that are upset about it anyway.

 

[extermin8r]

I hope UW gets embarrassed. They should never be in the conversation of relevance, they don't have the brand they think they do. People's memories are short, especially young recruits. If anything, a decisive win by us and UW getting stomped will pull us ahead temporarily regionally and nationally. If we can capitalize on this momentum with a couple more ten 10/11 win seasons, we'll start to pull ahead from a reputation standpoint. There are examples of this happening, even if for periods of just a few years at a time: Michigan State over Michigan, TCU over Texas, Oklahoma State over Oklahoma, Stanford over USC. There is a lot of precedent for less historically successful programs seizing momentum and we are positioned well. Just gotta start winning ACs and bowl games.

 

[M-I-Coug]

And they get to display the Rose Bowl trophy in their case and a Rose Bowl 2019 Champion banner in their stadium?

Uh....no.

 

[Coug90]

I hope UW gets embarrassed. They should never be in the conversation of relevance, they don't have the brand they think they do. People's memories are short, especially young recruits. If anything, a decisive win by us and UW getting stomped will pull us ahead temporarily regionally and nationally. If we can capitalize on this momentum with a couple more ten 10/11 win seasons, we'll start to pull ahead from a reputation standpoint. There are examples of this happening, even if for periods of just a few years at a time: Michigan State over Michigan, TCU over Texas, Oklahoma State over Oklahoma, Stanford over USC. There is a lot of precedent for less historically successful programs seizing momentum and we are positioned well. Just gotta start winning ACs and bowl games.

Bingo. UW was mediocre this year and lucked their way into this position more than anything. I hope they get embarrassed as well.

Also we win our bowl we end up ranked in the top 10 while they are probably 15-17.

Regardless why the hell would you ever root for UW...in anything...against anyone? Someone used to pin an article on Brand X every year during Apple Cup week about “why we hate UW”. It’s a good read and points over and over again to the general arrogance of the institution. I suggest the to the OP track it down and read it...may help you out in these situations.

 

[chugspig]

For our own good we need them to win. And on a non team level I don’t know how you dislike guys like Myles Gaskin, BBK, Rapp, Murphy etc. they are 20 year olds.

 

[OrangeGravy]

I can count on one finger how many times I've rooted for them to win in football maybe. Other sports don't bring out the same level of disdain. Basketball is close, but still quite a ways away.

The reason for my question is because like it or not they will be in the position to play against other conferences top teams more often then half of the Pac and unfortunately we as a conference need to win as many of those games as possible. In a perfect world everyone else would win their games every year against the other P5 foes and UW would never win one.

 

[CougPatrol]

Can never honestly root for UW, unless perhaps a UW win sends WSU to a championship. That said, UW getting their teeth kicked in at the Rose Bowl won't be a good look for the conference.

 

[Loyal Coug]

I understand that it's "good" for the conference for UW to win the Rose Bowl. That said, when you have a jackhole husky douchebag like CohesiveDiarrhea show up on our site after the Apple Cup, you realize how important it is for the Huskies to lose. Front running, t-shirt wearing, mouth breathers from GRCC who clown around on opposing teams message boards are the only reason that you should need to realize how entitled and pathetic the Husky fanbase is. F#ck those guys and their football team.

Can never honestly root for UW, unless perhaps a UW win sends WSU to a championship. That said, UW getting their teeth kicked in at the Rose Bowl won't be a good look for the conference.

I just can't root for the mutts either. One poster's account of their team taunting our fans at AC really drives it home. For such squeaky-clean class as Peterson seems to project, his team (and coaches) are pretty low class. So I hope the Pac-12 goes 6-1, with the mutts getting curb stomped. We finish at 11-2 and in the top 10, they fall somewhere below at 10-4.

 

[BiggsCoug]

For our own good we need them to win. And on a non team level I don’t know how you dislike guys like Myles Gaskin, BBK, Rapp, Murphy etc. they are 20 year olds.

It isnt just the team I dislike. It’s everyone and everything associated with the school.

Frankly, are you a WSU fan?

 

[roses04]

UW winning does nothing for WSU, it might help USC, UCLA and Oregon, but it doesn't help the Cougs. Sure you are going to hear how it will help the pac 12, but that's crap. Come next September, the Cougs won't be ranked in the top 25 and we have to earn our way back up the polls. But UW, Oregon, and USC and maybe Stanford will all be ranked. We will hear Minshew is gone, they are nothing without him, even though we return 15-17 Starters.

GO BUCKEYES!

 

[CougEd]

I'm of the opinion that the only thing that matters (90%) to a conference's reputation is how the teams perform that have even somewhat of a national awareness. This bowl season for the Pac, to me, rides on the backs of UW, UO, and Stanford. Those are the only teams that outsiders have acknowledged as being good in the past. If they each win it help the conference rep. If everyone else wins it helps, but to a much lesser extent. Now if those 3 win and everyone else wins that gives the rep an extra boost. Conversely if those 3 lose and everyone else wins, it's a push nationally speaking.

So do you care enough about the conference rep to root for UW?

It's a tough call for me because I hate OSU/Urban, so I'm neutral right now. I hope Oregon and Stanford do damage.

This is not a serious question is it ? But i do hope it is a close game and to lose in the most painful way, like the way the Giants list to the Eagles when Herm Edwards picked up a fumble with 10 seconds left . Something that really stings. A blow out we will get well we went and ran into a buzz saw.

 

[CougEd]

I root for two teams: WSU, and ANY team playing the huskies, the Edmonds Ediots being the exception.

Yo bug stomper, you were paying attention . But only on “Ediot” in Edmonds. Btw what was the big surprise ?

 

[chugspig]

It isnt just the team I dislike. It’s everyone and everything associated with the school.

Frankly, are you a WSU fan?

Yes, but as I gain separation from college age, I realize I like football as a whole landscape. I appreciate good play from many teams, and I don’t take 20 year olds talking shit to heart. So I don’t have lots of ill will towards UW players and most fans. I enjoyed Oregon beating them, and was pretty upset we lost to them. But for our own good we need them to be good too. Lots of times, I find our fans as embarrassing as many of the ones we pick apart from UW.

 

[cougarmike]

NO WAY.....Ever!!!!!

QUOTE="OrangeGravy, post: 190723, member: 9263"]I'm of the opinion that the only thing that matters (90%) to a conference's reputation is how the teams perform that have even somewhat of a national awareness. This bowl season for the Pac, to me, rides on the backs of UW, UO, and Stanford. Those are the only teams that outsiders have acknowledged as being good in the past. If they each win it help the conference rep. If everyone else wins it helps, but to a much lesser extent. Now if those 3 win and everyone else wins that gives the rep an extra boost. Conversely if those 3 lose and everyone else wins, it's a push nationally speaking.

So do you care enough about the conference rep to root for UW?

It's a tough call for me because I hate OSU/Urban, so I'm neutral right now. I hope Oregon and Stanford do damage.[/QUOTE]

 

[billyjoecamaro]

Still holding out hope that we can pass UW in the final standings. It's not worth much, but would soothe the pain a bit to be considered the best team in the PAC over the course of the season.

 

[Cougarmatt90]

1. Perception is all about USC and UCLA, nationally nobody has ever given a rat ass about the UW.
2. Think of the children.

You’re correct. As much as UW fans like to imagine they’re thought of in the same breath, nationally it’s about USC, UCLA, Oregon and to a lesser degree Stanford.

 

[Coug90]

Still holding out hope that we can pass UW in the final standings. It's not worth much, but would soothe the pain a bit to be considered the best team in the PAC over the course of the season.

If we win and they lose we will be ranked higher. That’s a guarantee. May only be by a couple of spots but we will.

 

[HHusky]

You’re correct. As much as UW fans like to imagine they’re thought of in the same breath, nationally it’s about USC, UCLA, Oregon and to a lesser degree Stanford.

Nationally it's about USC. To the extent it's about UCLA at all, it's because of UCLA's location and other (non-football) athletic successes. Oregon and Stanford are not bigger time nationally than the UW.

 

[BiggsCoug]

Yes, but as I gain separation from college age, I realize I like football as a whole landscape. I appreciate good play from many teams, and I don’t take 20 year olds talking shit to heart. So I don’t have lots of ill will towards UW players and most fans. I enjoyed Oregon beating them, and was pretty upset we lost to them. But for our own good we need them to be good too. Lots of times, I find our fans as embarrassing as many of the ones we pick apart from UW.

Please read up on the med school and who went to great lengths to prevent it...

 

[Fab5Coug]

I'm of the opinion that the only thing that matters (90%) to a conference's reputation is how the teams perform that have even somewhat of a national awareness. This bowl season for the Pac, to me, rides on the backs of UW, UO, and Stanford. Those are the only teams that outsiders have acknowledged as being good in the past. If they each win it help the conference rep. If everyone else wins it helps, but to a much lesser extent. Now if those 3 win and everyone else wins that gives the rep an extra boost. Conversely if those 3 lose and everyone else wins, it's a push nationally speaking.

So do you care enough about the conference rep to root for UW?

It's a tough call for me because I hate OSU/Urban, so I'm neutral right now. I hope Oregon and Stanford do damage.

No.

 

[Fab5Coug]

Nationally it's about USC. To the extent it's about UCLA at all, it's because of UCLA's location and other (non-football) athletic successes. Oregon and Stanford are not bigger time nationally than the UW.

I don't know about that. Oregon certainly was when Kelly was there. I'd say it's close now. I'm not really sure how we would measure which program is "bigger" though.

 

[Coug90]

Nationally it's about USC. To the extent it's about UCLA at all, it's because of UCLA's location and other (non-football) athletic successes. Oregon and Stanford are not bigger time nationally than the UW.

I wouldn’t agree with Stanford. Oregon it sort of depends. They will go out and get 5* kids from other parts of the country simply because of Oregon swag, Nike, etc, which really only Oregon and USC can do in this conference. I’d say Nike alone makes them more relevant than UW today.

 

[moondawgie]

I'll be rooting for the cougs, no real reason not to. Of course if they lose in spectacular fashion I will give all sorts of grief to my coug friends.

 

[HHusky]

I wouldn’t agree with Stanford. Oregon it sort of depends. They will go out and get 5* kids from other parts of the country simply because of Oregon swag, Nike, etc, which really only Oregon and USC can do in this conference. I’d say Nike alone makes them more relevant than UW today.

The UW has had far more success than Stanford or Oregon over the living memory of college football fans generally. In terms of national perception, which was the issue, the UW is a bigger deal.

 

[HHusky]

I'll be rooting for the cougs, no real reason not to. Of course if they lose in spectacular fashion I will give all sorts of grief to my coug friends.

I hope the Cougs win. It’s better for us.

 

[Flatlandcoug]

Nationally it's about USC. To the extent it's about UCLA at all, it's because of UCLA's location and other (non-football) athletic successes. Oregon and Stanford are not bigger time nationally than the UW.

As much as we all dislike the Evil Empire, the Ducks are a name brand nationally in a way that UW is not. How do I know? When I walk around or drive around Wichita, Kansas, I see kids wearing Oregon hoodies and I see that neon "O" on cars. I see Georgia in the SEC championship game holding up a sign with four boxes on it for their defensive calls and one of the images is Oregon's "O". Do you know what I don't see? The Husky "W" or logo anywhere around here.

Earlier in the year, when Oregon was 5-1 and fresh off a win against UW, the media was ready to crown them Kings in the North and they had risen to #12 in the country. As long as the Ducks don't suck, they get the benefit of the doubt. Even with a record of 6-1 and a win over those mighty Ducks, the Cougs were ranked #14 the following week.

Stanford is tricky. They've been lurking in the shadows of UW and WSU the last couple years (although they managed to sneak in the back door and win the north last year. Having lost to WSU several years in a row and splitting with the Huskies, they are definitely struggling to maintain their brand. They definitely do not have the national brand recognition that Oregon has.

 

[Fab5Coug]

The UW has had far more success than Stanford or Oregon over the living memory of college football fans generally. In terms of national perception, which was the issue, the UW is a bigger deal.

That's very debatable. I guess it depends on what you mean by "living memory".