Root for UW to win the Rose for Pac 12 pride?

[Fab5Coug]

http://walterfootball.com/draft2020_1.php

http://www.draftblaster.com/2020-nfl-mock-draft/

https://247sports.com/college/georg...son-could-go-1-2-in-2020-NFL-Draft-119411888/

"Where do teams go from here? One high-ranking scout I spoke to last week was nearly giddy talking about the 2020 draft class (yes, they're already looking that far ahead). "That kid at Georgia (Jake Fromm) and the one that left (Jacob Eason) are legit dudes. They could go 1-2 and they were at the same school! Those are the ones to watch."

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2018/07/09/2019-nfl-draft-early-quarterback-preview/ - believes Eason would be a first rounder in 2020 and calls 2019 thin compared to 2020 class of QB's.

http://www.draftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=1017483&draftyear=2020&genpos=QB - rated 2 of 103 QB's in 2020 which means first round.

I don't really care if Eason is drafted, he probably will, but...you referenced a website called...draftblaster? Draftblaster.

Draftblaster also projects the Cleveland Browns will draft a QB, which would be a bold move.

Draftblaster.

 

[Fab5Coug]

UW is quickly gaining on them though... If these programs continue to go in the wrong direction it could look a lot like what happened to UW from 2003-2009... That 7-year span killed our program's perception.

Oregon: 4-8, 7-6, 8-4... There's no guarantee Cristobal is going to take the program places and if the best they could muster with Herbert is a 19 and 18 win/loss record I'd hate to see what they do with someone less talented. It's not the same program w/o Kelly. Phil Knight ain't getting any younger. Although it looks like losing Taggert was about the best thing that could have happened to them.

Stanford: 9-5, 8-4... seems Shaw is losing his touch a bit... kind of like Helfrich did after Kelly... riding the coat tails of Harbaugh. They no longer have that physical presence on D that Harbaugh made famous... and their power run game has gone down the trash - they were 122nd in the nation in rushing this year despite signing a bevy of 5-star talent on the O-line... that's a clear sign they've lost their identity and are headed places they don't wanna go.

I wonder what Alabama's perception as a program was from '97-'07... my guess is not great. Hiring Saban sure did wonders to change it back... I think Pete is on a similar path... no, not as good Saban, you can't repeat success of that magnitude... but similar. In 3 years getting to the playoff, Fiesta and Rose Bowl has almost certainly put us back square in the national spotlight... and I don't see those results changing any time soon.

Shaw's been there 8 years and won a Rose Bowl after anyone Harbaugh recruited was gone.

 

[dgibbons]

I don't really care if Eason is drafted, he probably will, but...you referenced a website called...draftblaster? Draftblaster.

Draftblaster also projects the Cleveland Browns will draft a QB, which would be a bold move.

Draftblaster.

Is that like Master Blaster?

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[Coug90]

UW is quickly gaining on them though... If these programs continue to go in the wrong direction it could look a lot like what happened to UW from 2003-2009... That 7-year span killed our program's perception.

Oregon: 4-8, 7-6, 8-4... There's no guarantee Cristobal is going to take the program places and if the best they could muster with Herbert is a 19 and 18 win/loss record I'd hate to see what they do with someone less talented. It's not the same program w/o Kelly. Phil Knight ain't getting any younger. Although it looks like losing Taggert was about the best thing that could have happened to them.

Stanford: 9-5, 8-4... seems Shaw is losing his touch a bit... kind of like Helfrich did after Kelly... riding the coat tails of Harbaugh. They no longer have that physical presence on D that Harbaugh made famous... and their power run game has gone down the trash - they were 122nd in the nation in rushing this year despite signing a bevy of 5-star talent on the O-line... that's a clear sign they've lost their identity and are headed places they don't wanna go.

I wonder what Alabama's perception as a program was from '97-'07... my guess is not great. Hiring Saban sure did wonders to change it back... I think Pete is on a similar path... no, not as good Saban, you can't repeat success of that magnitude... but similar. In 3 years getting to the playoff, Fiesta and Rose Bowl has almost certainly put us back square in the national spotlight... and I don't see those results changing any time soon.

Knight and Nike are more important and more a part of Oregon than CP is to UW. The flair and money pumped into that program from Nike transcends coaches. If they make a bad hire they pay the money and move on, and the recruits will still come. Coaches come and go. Even CP will eventually when a better opportunity comes knocking. And I’m not saying that as someone who desperately wants him gone, quite frankly he’s hit his ceiling at UW. He’s a good coach but his conference record is identical to Leachs over the last 4 years. He’s not in the same zip code as Saban.

 

[TSKCoug]

Much of this seems laughable from the vantage point of my residence here in Florida. I have long lost count of the number of times I have heard people around here refer to either the "Washington Cougars" or the "Washington State Huskies"! Really the entire PNW might as well be on the moon for a great many here on the Eastern Seaboard. The Huskies, in a national sense, are barely noticed and certainly have no cache (as elusive as that concept is). In fact I imagine that if you asked most out here what university has the "Husky" as its mascot, if you get an answer at all, those who do would by majority say University of Connecticut. After all UConn has won many more National Championships than UW has in all its fevered wet dreams.

 

[Coug90]

Much of this seems laughable from the vantage point of my residence here in Florida. I have long lost count of the number of times I have heard people around here refer to either the "Washington Cougars" or the "Washington State Huskies"! Really the entire PNW might as well be on the moon for a great many here on the Eastern Seaboard. The Huskies, in a national sense, are barely noticed and certainly have no cache (as elusive as that concept is). In fact I imagine that if you asked most out here what university has the "Husky" as its mascot, if you get an answer at all, those who do would by majority say University of Connecticut. After all UConn has won many more National Championships than UW has in all its fevered wet dreams.

Or UW...oh Wisconsin!

 

[Suudy]

Much of this seems laughable from the vantage point of my residence here in Florida. I have long lost count of the number of times I have heard people around here refer to either the "Washington Cougars" or the "Washington State Huskies"! Really the entire PNW might as well be on the moon for a great many here on the Eastern Seaboard. The Huskies, in a national sense, are barely noticed and certainly have no cache (as elusive as that concept is). In fact I imagine that if you asked most out here what university has the "Husky" as its mascot, if you get an answer at all, those who do would by majority say University of Connecticut. After all UConn has won many more National Championships than UW has in all its fevered wet dreams.

I don't know if this is still true, but when I lived in the south (the first 14 years of my life I lived in Charleston, SC and St Mary's, GA), west coast football was completely off the radar. In fact, I remember when we moved to WA when I was a freshman in high school, and a conversation came up something like:

Person A: Who do you think will win the UW/USC game?
Me: Why would UW play USC?
Person B: Ummm.....because they are in the same league.
Me: Since when? USC is in the SEC.
Person A: Huh?
Me: You know, University of South Carolina.
Person B: Dude. It's University of Southern California.
Me: Oh. We say USC for South Carolina in the south. Is Southern California any good?
Person A: It's USC.
Me: Whatever.

That's how much I knew about the west coast football. Granted, I wasn't much of a college football guy then (though I remember when Georgia beat Florida in 1985. We basically had the entire next week off in school since most of our teachers were UGA grads.

 

[billyjoecamaro]

If we win and they lose we will be ranked higher. That’s a guarantee. May only be by a couple of spots but we will.

I sure hope so. The way we were treated in the polls makes me think otherwise. UW loses to #6 and we beat #23. Not sure we see a net 5 position move. First things first.

 

[fingerdisco]

I don't really care if Eason is drafted, he probably will, but...you referenced a website called...draftblaster? Draftblaster.

Draftblaster also projects the Cleveland Browns will draft a QB, which would be a bold move.

Draftblaster.

What do you expect whose user name boils down to being mentally confused?

 

[extermin8r]

I don't know if this is still true, but when I lived in the south (the first 14 years of my life I lived in Charleston, SC and St Mary's, GA), west coast football was completely off the radar. In fact, I remember when we moved to WA when I was a freshman in high school, and a conversation came up something like:

Person A: Who do you think will win the UW/USC game?
Me: Why would UW play USC?
Person B: Ummm.....because they are in the same league.
Me: Since when? USC is in the SEC.
Person A: Huh?
Me: You know, University of South Carolina.
Person B: Dude. It's University of Southern California.
Me: Oh. We say USC for South Carolina in the south. Is Southern California any good?
Person A: It's USC.
Me: Whatever.

That's how much I knew about the west coast football. Granted, I wasn't much of a college football guy then (though I remember when Georgia beat Florida in 1985. We basically had the entire next week off in school since most of our teachers were UGA grads.

Same thing nowadays when you say "Go Dawgs" anywhere east of Colorado it's UGA (a school with more football prestige than UW by a mile.)

 

[Flatlandcoug]

I sure hope so. The way we were treated in the polls makes me think otherwise. UW loses to #6 and we beat #23. Not sure we see a net 5 position move. First things first.

If UW loses by 21 points to OSU, they'll fall from their current #9 spot to around #13-14. If we win our game, we'll be #9 or #10 depending on what happens ahead of us. When I'm talking about rankings, I'm talking about the AP poll of course.

 

[kougkurt]

Same thing nowadays when you say "Go Dawgs" anywhere east of Colorado it's UGA (a school with more football prestige than UW by a mile.)

Anywhere east of North Bend you mean

The whole thing is very disrespectful to UG.

 

[CognitiveDissonance]

Look, it's more beef stool from CohesiveDiarrhea! I will give you credit, contrary to your delusional mutt friend, you at least understand that UW is trying to catch up to Oregon and Stanford. The Oregon brand has certainly faded in the past few years and Stanford appears to be in danger of going that way and that has helped UW close the gap. I like how you say that Shaw was riding Harbaugh's coat tails though. He's been coach for 8 freakin' years at Stanford and been there longer than Harbaugh was. I agree that Helfrich was obviously a fraud, but comparing Shaw to him is pretty damned stupid, but something I'd expect from a mutt. Everyone thought that Shaw was riding coat tails at first, but when Stanford finished #3 FIVE FREAKIN' YEARS after Harbaugh left, that's different. It's funny to look at Stanford as "losing their identity" and struggling, and then you realize that if Stanford wins their bowl game, their "down year" will equal UW's best season between 2002 and 2015 and your "elite program" will only be 1/2 game ahead of them in overall W/L total this year. Yep....way down.

I won't be surprised is Stanford finishes around 7-5 a few times in the coming years and Shaw says cya. Then you'll see the 4-5 win seasons. Yes, their identity, the one Harbaugh created, has diminished. They don't really know who they are anymore in my eyes. Finishing 75th in total defense and 72nd in total offense ain't good... 122nd in rushing... yikes. You'd never see that from a Harbaugh led Stanford... yes, I think they're fading.

And cool... I never said that Stanford's last few mediocre years were on the same level as UW's run from 2003-2015. I, and any other Dawg fan, would admit that is was a black eye and a not so fun time to be a fan... I'm just saying that Oregon and Stanford could be heading in that direction if they're not careful.

I also don't think anyone can really argue against UW being considered the *current* class of the Pac 12... we've been ranked 6th, 8th, and 14th in the last 3 preseason polls and finished 9th (higher or lower depending on our bowl performance), 16th and 4th. I really don't see that changing so long as Pete is the coach. We'll be ranked somewhere in the top 10 of next year's preseason poll ahead of all Pac 12 teams. I'm not sure how anyone could argue that's not a result of our program's perceived strength from the national media.

 

[CognitiveDissonance]

3 points

1) You do realize Sam is Damon’s kiid
2 Jacob Eason has been discused at great length in many threads.
3) A rivals ranking of 5.7 is really a 4 star

1) Did I say he was Brock's kid? No, I said "Huard's" kid... Damon did play football at UW for 4 years and had a better career than Brock in the NFL. And who gives a shit? He's the projected #1 pocket passer in his class.

2) I could care less what Cougars think about Jacob Eason. You'll do anything to convince yourselves that he won't be successful at UW because if he his, you're ****ed. Again, dissonance. I think he'll do great, no reason to believe he won't. The general consensus was that he performed admirably as a freshman and most Georgia fans were sad to see him go. He has the tools to do big things at UW.

3) I personally know Brandon Huffman and I've met Greg Biggins on a few occasions at camps and scouting tournaments. I've also met scouts for Rivals. Brandon and Greg show up early, interview everyone, and leave late. The guys Rivals sent were little boys with defiant attitudes who had to ask Huffman and Biggins for their insight. In fact, one kid from Rivals showed up to a camp I attended, stayed for an hour and left before 3 kids got scholarship offers from a major Pac 12 program 3 hours later. So I could give a crap less about rivals rankings and I'll stick to what 247 sports reports because they have guys who put passion into their work... not awkward, lazy adolescents.

 

[CognitiveDissonance]

Much of this seems laughable from the vantage point of my residence here in Florida. I have long lost count of the number of times I have heard people around here refer to either the "Washington Cougars" or the "Washington State Huskies"! Really the entire PNW might as well be on the moon for a great many here on the Eastern Seaboard. The Huskies, in a national sense, are barely noticed and certainly have no cache (as elusive as that concept is). In fact I imagine that if you asked most out here what university has the "Husky" as its mascot, if you get an answer at all, those who do would by majority say University of Connecticut. After all UConn has won many more National Championships than UW has in all its fevered wet dreams.

A reply to all:

Why would we care what the perception of dumb fans from Florida and the South think?

Did those ignorant fans who think we are the "Washington Cougars" or "Washington State Huskies" put us in the Playoff and the Fiesta Bowl? No... the committee and national media who respect the shit out of Petersen and our program did that. If they are stupid enough to not know who UW is after Miami shared a national title with them, then I don't know what to tell you.

Do yourselves a favor, ask Urban Meyer and Nick Saban what they think of the UW program and Coach Pete... I think their opinion matters more than a bunch of stupid hicks who live in a bubble of ignorance. Then again, I'm not surprised you guys would put more stock into the perception of fans... you've tricked yourselves into believing that The Little Engine That Couldn't from Pullman deserves any respect because those from Pullman and your tiny fanbase do.

 

[Suudy]

Oh! It looks like somebody is a bit rankled. I think somebody's feelings are hurt.

Group hug?

 

[kougkurt]

A reply to all:

Why would we care what the perception of dumb fans from Florida and the South think?

Did those ignorant fans who think we are the "Washington Cougars" or "Washington State Huskies" put us in the Playoff and the Fiesta Bowl? No... the committee and national media who respect the shit out of Petersen and our program did that. If they are stupid enough to not know who UW is after Miami shared a national title with them, then I don't know what to tell you.

Do yourselves a favor, ask Urban Meyer and Nick Saban what they think of the UW program and Coach Pete... I think their opinion matters more than a bunch of stupid hicks who live in a bubble of ignorance. Then again, I'm not surprised you guys would put more stock into the perception of fans... you've tricked yourselves into believing that The Little Engine That Couldn't from Pullman deserves any respect because those from Pullman and your tiny fanbase do.

Your 1:00 am drunk GRCC posts are much more entertaining. Stick to that genre.

 

[CognitiveDissonance]

Your 1:00 am drunk GRCC posts are much more entertaining. Stick to that genre.

I wonder if you folks realize how juvenile you look in your responses... nothing but little brother personal attacks against someone you don't know. I put some thought into my responses... you get visibly red and go into a name calling tantrum, much like a child.

 

[kougkurt]

A reply to all:

Why would we care what the perception of dumb fans from Florida and the South think?

Did those ignorant fans who think we are the "Washington Cougars" or "Washington State Huskies" put us in the Playoff and the Fiesta Bowl? No... the committee and national media who respect the shit out of Petersen and our program did that. If they are stupid enough to not know who UW is after Miami shared a national title with them, then I don't know what to tell you.

Do yourselves a favor, ask Urban Meyer and Nick Saban what they think of the UW program and Coach Pete... I think their opinion matters more than a bunch of stupid hicks who live in a bubble of ignorance. Then again, I'm not surprised you guys would put more stock into the perception of fans... you've tricked yourselves into believing that The Little Engine That Couldn't from Pullman deserves any respect because those from Pullman and your tiny fanbase do.

I asked Urban Meyer what he thought of Petersen and he said, never heard of him. But he did say this Your right......his opinion does matter

 

[kougkurt]

I wonder if you folks realize how juvenile you look in your responses... nothing but little brother personal attacks against someone you don't know. I put some thought into my responses... you get visibly red and go into a name calling tantrum, much like a child.

OK. I am truly sorry. Why don’t you make your way up from White Center We can meet at Huskie stadium, hold hands, and walk around the field.

No child tantrums idiot. Truth hurts.

 

[TSKCoug]

A reply to all:

Why would we care what the perception of dumb fans from Florida and the South think?

Did those ignorant fans who think we are the "Washington Cougars" or "Washington State Huskies" put us in the Playoff and the Fiesta Bowl? No... the committee and national media who respect the shit out of Petersen and our program did that. If they are stupid enough to not know who UW is after Miami shared a national title with them, then I don't know what to tell you.

Do yourselves a favor, ask Urban Meyer and Nick Saban what they think of the UW program and Coach Pete... I think their opinion matters more than a bunch of stupid hicks who live in a bubble of ignorance. Then again, I'm not surprised you guys would put more stock into the perception of fans... you've tricked yourselves into believing that The Little Engine That Couldn't from Pullman deserves any respect because those from Pullman and your tiny fanbase do.

So when Coach Pete lands a job back east, how long will it take you to piss your pants? Believe it or not there are much higher profile head coaching jobs than at UW.

 

[kougkurt]

So when Coach Pete lands a job back east, how long will it take you to piss your pants? Believe it or not there are much higher profile head coaching jobs than at UW.

Sssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[CognitiveDissonance]

OK. I am truly sorry. Why don’t you make your way up from White Center We can meet at Huskie stadium, hold hands, and walk around the field.

No child tantrums idiot. Truth hurts.

Actually no. I'd just like you to stop being so ignorant to believe that WSU even holds a candle to UW as a football program.

I'd like you to stop being so ignorant to believe that WSU's success this year was anything more than the sheer fortune of landing a 5th year senior at QB who caught lightning in a bottle - in other words, the program had a lucky break that is not a formula for success or repetition.

I'd like you to stop being so ignorant in believing that every year you're going to beat UW and Petersen in the Apple Cup when UW has embarrassed your program. Just admit that we have your number and stop posting this garbage about "destroying" "crushing" or "dominating" us in the AC until you prove that you can even win by 1 point.

That's why I'm here. That's why I chimed in, in the first place. I couldn't believe the insanity I was reading on here. It's actually shocking to read the drivel posted here - you care about the perception of fans, do ya? Well I can tell you that there isn't a single fan base who would come to this forum and believe the lunacy that is displayed on a regular basis.

 

[Loyal Coug]

Guys, why are you feeding the troll?

 

[Flatlandcoug]

A reply to all:

Why would we care what the perception of dumb fans from Florida and the South think?

You apparently do, because you were the one that was bragging about how great UW's "NATIONAL" brand was?

And again, although it has diminished a little, I see Oregon stickers and sweatshirts where I live. I'll occasionally see a Stanford shirt. There's a dude that wears a USC hoodie and matching sweatpants to the gym I go to. You know what I don't see? UW gear.

Even though UW has obviously made strides nationally in the last three years, you're still lacking that big out of conference "moment" that really blows the skirt up for the national media. What's your big win against the big boys in the rest of the country? Near as I can tell, you're best win in the last 10 years against an OOC foe was a 19-7 win over Nebraska back in 2010. The best since then? A win over 9-5 Southern Miss in 2015 or a win over 10-4 Fresno State last year? I'm not going to say that we have anything better, but then again, I'm not the one bragging about my national brand.

 

[CognitiveDissonance]

So when Coach Pete lands a job back east, how long will it take you to piss your pants? Believe it or not there are much higher profile head coaching jobs than at UW.

Are there? Considering Petersen turned down SC and then went to UW... I like our chances in retaining him.

I don't even know why I reply to this drivel like this. It's not even on the minds of UW fans that Petersen would consider leaving any time soon.

 

[TSKCoug]

Are there? Considering Petersen turned down SC and then went to UW... I like our chances in retaining him.

I don't even know why I reply to this drivel like this. It's not even on the minds of UW fans that Petersen would consider leaving any time soon.

Pure hubris on your part, hubris and nothing else. (you might want to look that word up! )

 

[TSKCoug]

Guys, why are you feeding the troll?

Oh probably would be best if I didn't but his blasts have been so tempting and pompous. I guess his joined "Saturday" says it all.

 

[CognitiveDissonance]

You apparently do, because you were the one that was bragging about how great UW's "NATIONAL" brand was?

And again, although it has diminished a little, I see Oregon stickers and sweatshirts where I live. I'll occasionally see a Stanford shirt. There's a dude that wears a USC hoodie and matching sweatpants to the gym I go to. You know what I don't see? UW gear.

Even though UW has obviously made strides nationally in the last three years, you're still lacking that big out of conference "moment" that really blows the skirt up for the national media. What's your big win against the big boys in the rest of the country? Near as I can tell, you're best win in the last 10 years against an OOC foe was a 19-7 win over Nebraska back in 2010. The best since then? A win over 9-5 Southern Miss in 2015 or a win over 10-4 Fresno State last year? I'm not going to say that we have anything better, but then again, I'm not the one bragging about my national brand.

Well yeah, I don't really lump fans into that national branding. Since when do the lowly opinion of fans matter? All I really care about is what the media (AP), coaches (CP) and committee think about us when all is said and done.

A SC fan wearing a sweatshirt in Florida doesn't even cross my mind when it comes to our "national" brand as a football program. I care that those who matter think we're a great football program on a national level - and I believe those who matter do think that.

Most UW fans are from Washington... and that's based on being a geographically isolated program more than anything. Rainy Seattle, as a destination, probably isn't hot on the minds of many prospective college students who want to watch football and party... one thing that also should be mentioned is that UW is tough school to get into. If you're an out of state student you need to have a 3.8+ GPA and a 1400 + SAT score as a minimum... my bet is most of those students aren't as interested in football as they are getting a great education.

Hell, my brother got into USC and was waitlisted at UW.

*edit* I'm not paying to respond on your forum, so when there are lapses in my responses Rivals literally won't let me make more posts. Sorry I can't get to them all.

 

[Coug90]

Actually no. I'd just like you to stop being so ignorant to believe that WSU even holds a candle to UW as a football program.

I'd like you to stop being so ignorant to believe that WSU's success this year was anything more than the sheer fortune of landing a 5th year senior at QB who caught lightning in a bottle - in other words, the program had a lucky break that is not a formula for success or repetition.

I'd like you to stop being so ignorant in believing that every year you're going to beat UW and Petersen in the Apple Cup when UW has embarrassed your program. Just admit that we have your number and stop posting this garbage about "destroying" "crushing" or "dominating" us in the AC until you prove that you can even win by 1 point.

That's why I'm here. That's why I chimed in, in the first place. I couldn't believe the insanity I was reading on here. It's actually shocking to read the drivel posted here - you care about the perception of fans, do ya? Well I can tell you that there isn't a single fan base who would come to this forum and believe the lunacy that is displayed on a regular basis.

The last 4 years WSU and UW have the SAME CONFERENCE RECORD. Hold a candle? Please. UW is a half car length ahead of WSU as a program right now...at best.

 

[Coug90]

Well yeah, I don't really lump fans into that national branding. Since when do the lowly opinion of fans matter? All I really care about is what the media (AP), coaches (CP) and committee think about us when all is said and done.

A SC fan wearing a sweatshirt in Florida doesn't even cross my mind when it comes to our "national" brand.

Most UW fans are from Washington... and that's based on being a geographically isolated program more than anything. Rainy Seattle, as a destination, probably isn't hot on the minds of many prospective college students who want to watch football and party... one thing that also should be mentioned is that UW is tough school to get into. If you're an out of state student you need to have a 3.8+ GPA and a 1400 + SAT score as a minimum... my bet is most of those students aren't as interested in football as they are getting a great education.

Hell, my brother got into USC and was waitlisted at UW.

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/...l-students-pay-top-dollar-at-us-colleges.html

Here’s a big reason for that. And it’s not something I would take pride in. All about that $.

 

[CrimsonDisciple]

I sure hope so. The way we were treated in the polls makes me think otherwise. UW loses to #6 and we beat #23. Not sure we see a net 5 position move. First things first.

We are #12. If we win the Alamo we’ll move up to 10 and UW will move to at least 11 with a loss. Possibly further with 4 losses, 4 losses! 13 or farther If they are embarrassed. Florida will get pounced and drop like a rock. Penn State and Texas are already behind us in the AP (CFP won’t be updated).

 

[Flatlandcoug]

I wanted to follow up and here is the record of the mighty UW program against teams from Power 5 conferences with winning records since 2002:

B1G: 0-5
Big 12: 1-6
SEC: 0-3

So, your powerhouse program with national pedigree is 1-14 against the teams that matter. What is humiliating for you as a mutt fan is that Oregon is 9-11 against Power 5 opponents in the same time frame. You want to know why people still get excited about the Ducks? It's because, compared to UW, they matter. The 8 win disparity between the two programs is why your program, although it has won a lot of games in the past three years, had a video posted by ESPN about your cupcake schedule in recent years. The first time your team faced a real life opponent......you lost. Sorry to burst your bubble, big guy, but your team is really just a tick above WSU in national brand recognition right now and you know that it's closer than you'd like, particularly with our mad genius wearing a headset. The media loves WSU, they love to hate UW.

 

[Fab5Coug]

I wonder if you folks realize how juvenile you look in your responses... nothing but little brother personal attacks against someone you don't know. I put some thought into my responses... you get visibly red and go into a name calling tantrum, much like a child.

Ironic. So, calling us "stupid hicks" took a great deal of thought?

 

[extermin8r]

I wanted to follow up and here is the record of the mighty UW program against teams from Power 5 conferences with winning records since 2002:

B1G: 0-5
Big 12: 1-6
SEC: 0-3

So, your powerhouse program with national pedigree is 1-14 against the teams that matter. What is humiliating for you as a mutt fan is that Oregon is 9-11 against Power 5 opponents in the same time frame. You want to know why people still get excited about the Ducks? It's because, compared to UW, they matter. The 8 win disparity between the two programs is why your program, although it has won a lot of games in the past three years, had a video posted by ESPN about your cupcake schedule in recent years. The first time your team faced a real life opponent......you lost. Sorry to burst your bubble, big guy, but your team is really just a tick above WSU in national brand recognition right now and you know that it's closer than you'd like, particularly with our mad genius wearing a headset. The media loves WSU, they love to hate UW.

Ooh the truth hurts doesn't it Dawg fans? Let's summarize:

1. Can't win the games against real football programs as shown above
2. All time AP and Coaches rankings put your storied program at second tier at best
3. Last 20 years of AP/Coaches rankings put your program a peg lower, even behind lowly WSU in some instances
   
4. Haven't won a bowl game of significance since just after 9/11, and only 3 bowl wins total in the SEVENTEEN years since
5. When confronted, resort to pointing out future recruits and citing Brandon Huffman's expertise, a known Husky homer for over a decade, who surely has no influence on the 24/7 ratings for Dawg recruits as the NATIONAL Recruiting Editor for 24/7 (btw, you still trail in recruiting rankings to modern "powerhouses" like UT, Texas, Arkansas, A&M, Nebraska)
6. Clutch to Pete's recent ability to get you out of mediocrity, yet still CHOKE on the national stage in big games (another embarrassment coming up Jan 1.)
7. Irrelevance outside of PNW/P12 (UW = Wisconsin, Dawgs = UGA, real football programs)
8. Completely owned by your "true" rivals UO for last 15 years (2-13 record)

I could keep going... the hilarity in all of this is you are now resorting to clowning on WSU as it becomes clear your "National" prestige is clearly smoke and mirrors. Newsflash, I and many other WSU alums live outside of Washington, are alums and/or affiliates of other schools that put UW to shame; and with this perspective it becomes even more clear how ridiculous your fanbase is.

I'll be the first to admit, you have owned WSU in Apple Cup, especially in the recent past. And, we can all admit, your program has accomplished more than WSU all-time. The rub is with even ONE good season the cries of "UW IS BACK" can be heard across the country, but the only ones shouting it are your clueless fans clustered in western Washington. If you had any sliver of the prestige you claim your program does, you would just do us all a massive favor and shutter the arrogance.

 

[Fab5Coug]

Ooh the truth hurts doesn't it Dawg fans? Let's summarize:

1. Can't win the games against real football programs as shown above
2. All time AP and Coaches rankings put your storied program at second tier at best
3. Last 20 years of AP/Coaches rankings put your program a peg lower, even behind lowly WSU in some instances
   
4. Haven't won a bowl game of significance since just after 9/11, and only 3 bowl wins total in the SEVENTEEN years since
5. When confronted, resort to pointing out future recruits and citing Brandon Huffman's expertise, a known Husky homer for over a decade, who surely has no influence on the 24/7 ratings for Dawg recruits as the NATIONAL Recruiting Editor for 24/7 (btw, you still trail in recruiting rankings to modern "powerhouses" like UT, Texas, Arkansas, A&M, Nebraska)
6. Clutch to Pete's recent ability to get you out of mediocrity, yet still CHOKE on the national stage in big games (another embarrassment coming up Jan 1.)
7. Irrelevance outside of PNW/P12 (UW = Wisconsin, Dawgs = UGA, real football programs)
8. Completely owned by your "true" rivals UO for last 15 years (2-13 record)

I could keep going... the hilarity in all of this is you are now resorting to clowning on WSU as it becomes clear your "National" prestige is clearly smoke and mirrors. Newsflash, I and many other WSU alums live outside of Washington, are alums and/or affiliates of other schools that put UW to shame; and with this perspective it becomes even more clear how ridiculous your fanbase is.

I'll be the first to admit, you have owned WSU in Apple Cup, especially in the recent past. And, we can all admit, your program has accomplished more than WSU all-time. The rub is with even ONE good season the cries of "UW IS BACK" can be heard across the country, but the only ones shouting it are your clueless fans clustered in western Washington. If you had any sliver of the prestige you claim your program does, you would just do us all a massive favor and shutter the arrogance.

Brandon Huffman is not a UW homer. I think you're thinking of Chris Fetters.

 

[How_did_this_happen?]

So the Taliban and the UW played a football game one day...

Would there be any doubt who we'd root for guys?

 

[Coug90]

Ooh the truth hurts doesn't it Dawg fans? Let's summarize:

1. Can't win the games against real football programs as shown above
2. All time AP and Coaches rankings put your storied program at second tier at best
3. Last 20 years of AP/Coaches rankings put your program a peg lower, even behind lowly WSU in some instances
   
4. Haven't won a bowl game of significance since just after 9/11, and only 3 bowl wins total in the SEVENTEEN years since
5. When confronted, resort to pointing out future recruits and citing Brandon Huffman's expertise, a known Husky homer for over a decade, who surely has no influence on the 24/7 ratings for Dawg recruits as the NATIONAL Recruiting Editor for 24/7 (btw, you still trail in recruiting rankings to modern "powerhouses" like UT, Texas, Arkansas, A&M, Nebraska)
6. Clutch to Pete's recent ability to get you out of mediocrity, yet still CHOKE on the national stage in big games (another embarrassment coming up Jan 1.)
7. Irrelevance outside of PNW/P12 (UW = Wisconsin, Dawgs = UGA, real football programs)
8. Completely owned by your "true" rivals UO for last 15 years (2-13 record)

I could keep going... the hilarity in all of this is you are now resorting to clowning on WSU as it becomes clear your "National" prestige is clearly smoke and mirrors. Newsflash, I and many other WSU alums live outside of Washington, are alums and/or affiliates of other schools that put UW to shame; and with this perspective it becomes even more clear how ridiculous your fanbase is.

I'll be the first to admit, you have owned WSU in Apple Cup, especially in the recent past. And, we can all admit, your program has accomplished more than WSU all-time. The rub is with even ONE good season the cries of "UW IS BACK" can be heard across the country, but the only ones shouting it are your clueless fans clustered in western Washington. If you had any sliver of the prestige you claim your program does, you would just do us all a massive favor and shutter the arrogance.

Ouch!

 

[extermin8r]

Brandon Huffman is not a UW homer. I think you're thinking of Chris Fetters.

Ahh that's right. I stand corrected, point still stands about recruiting stars mattering (many examples to the contrary)

 

[HHusky]

Knight and Nike are more important and more a part of Oregon than CP is to UW. The flair and money pumped into that program from Nike transcends coaches. If they make a bad hire they pay the money and move on, and the recruits will still come. Coaches come and go. Even CP will eventually when a better opportunity comes knocking. And I’m not saying that as someone who desperately wants him gone, quite frankly he’s hit his ceiling at UW. He’s a good coach but his conference record is identical to Leachs over the last 4 years. He’s not in the same zip code as Saban.

There aren’t a ton of better jobs than the UW nationally, much less in the West where Petersen has lived and worked his whole career. He wasn’t trying to flee to Tennessee last year either.