Rose Bowl selection process
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Why? If that scenario played out WSU would be 9-3. The Rose Bowl site states that " If the Conference champion is selected to participate in the College Football Playoff Semifinal, the Rose Bowl Game will select the next best team in the conference."
What I wonder is how this would be determined? Who would be the next best, and based on what? Would it be the runner up even if that were a 4-5 loss team from the South? Would it be Utah even if they stumble down the stretch? Don't know how you can state factually that it would/could not happen.....
Because we are WSU. We will always be picked last. It is what it is.
If USC or Utah finish 9-3, they aren't picking the Cougs.
Acknowledging that we have the least prestige, smallest fanbase, and least national appeal to TV and ticket reps does not make me pessimistic.
In your scenario you basically state that any team would be chosen over WSU. I am not so sure. WSU travels well for bowls, and in the 9-3 scenario would be among the more talked about stories in CFB. Utah does not have any tremendous advantage over WSU. Please define prestige as well.
Were you around for the 2003 game? I don't think the RB committee is going to buy the "WSU travels well" argument again after that.
If Stanford is in the playoff, the Rose will pick "the next best team in the conference" (from the tournament of roses website). No detail on how they decide who that is, but I'm sure that marketability will be one of the criteria.
I have seen us travel well, and not so well. It does seem that compared to other schools we travel well for bowls. Most bowls are not sellout games, and the smaller schools will tend to have less fans than larger schools. Yes, I was around in 2003, and 98, and going back decades before, thanks for asking?
What is this even supposed to mean? Are you saying because we travelled ok to the UNLV game in September of 2012 that means we will travel well to a bowl game in December?
Surely you are smarter than this.
Participants in the Big 6 bowls that aren't the playoff games are chosen by the playoff committee. Even if the Cougs get to 9-3, they won't be eligible because there is no way they will be ranked in the top 12.
So the RB, when not a playoff site does not keep its conference affiliations? I thought they made that part of their deal (did not seem important to me at the time). So it sounds like if Stanford wins out, the Pac-12 has the potential of being shutout of the RB unless a Pa-12 team is in the top 12, is that the case?
Our travel numbers seem to show something similar to our attendance at home: people will come, if it's interesting enough. There was huge demand for RB tickets in 98, when we hadn't been there in most fans' lifetimes. When we went again 5 years later, it wasn't so interesting. There was good demand for novel opponents, and we traveled well to South Bend in 2003 and Auburn in 2004. Not as well when we played ND in San Antonio, or when we played Auburn again in 2012 (?). We took a good crowd to Vegas in 2012, and a pretty decent one to Reno in 2005, but we often don't sell our allotment for conference opponents.
This indicates to me that the typical Coug "fan" doesn't actually go to see the Cougs. They go to see a different opponent or stadium, or to go to Disneyland or the casinos. And they don't do it very often. Basically, we've got a lot of halfhearted fans that are more interested in the things around the game than they are in the game itself. Actually, this is also amply demonstrated at home games, when 1/3 to 1/2 of the crowd doesn't come bar from the Coug or their RV after halftime.
No. If they're not a playoff site, the RB sticks with its conferences and takes the best available from the Big Ten and Pac-12. There's no longer an obligation for them to take a mid-major.
This is what I found, did not see a top 12 ranking here,
Both participants in the Orange, Rose and Sugar Bowls are contracted outside the playoff arrangement (Big Ten and Pac-12 to Rose Bowl; SEC and Big 12 to Sugar Bowl; ACC to Orange Bowl against the highest ranked available team from the SEC, Big Ten and Notre Dame). If a conference champion qualifies for the playoff, then the bowl will choose a replacement from that conference. When those bowls host the semifinals and their contracted conference champions do not qualify, then the displaced champion(s) will play in the other New Year’s bowls.
The Fiesta, Cotton and Peach Bowls will host displaced conference champions and the top-ranked champion from a non-contract conference. The highest-ranked available teams will fill any other berths. The Selection Committee will make the pairings.
Both participants in the Orange, Rose and Sugar Bowls are contracted outside the playoff arrangement (Big Ten and Pac-12 to Rose Bowl; SEC and Big 12 to Sugar Bowl; ACC to Orange Bowl against the highest ranked available team from the SEC, Big Ten and Notre Dame). If a conference champion qualifies for the playoff, then the bowl will choose a replacement from that conference. When those bowls host the semifinals and their contracted conference champions do not qualify, then the displaced champion(s) will play in the other New Year’s bowls.
The Fiesta, Cotton and Peach Bowls will host displaced conference champions and the top-ranked champion from a non-contract conference. The highest-ranked available teams will fill any other berths. The Selection Committee will make the pairings.
So basically, let's go Stanford to get into the CFP....Cougs win one game a week through the rest of the season (and by that I mean cream every remaining team) and hope that the committee believes the "it's not how you start, it's how you finish" mantra and bam, Cougs are golden. Genius.
Can we wait until the Cougs pick up win #6 before we start the bowling conversation? It makes me nervous as hell.
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