Ryan Murphy reopening his recruitment
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I do not blame him one bit. Maybe because they are losing big men and were going to try and teach him post moves? Seriously his talent would probably been wasted in Smith s program. The body count is now six and probably will grow by about 2-3 more players.
Wasn't Texas Tech interested in him and making a big, late push even after he had signed the LOI? Might be hard to turn down an offer to play for the NC runnerup. Good luck to him.
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So be prepared to lose 2-3 more players before it is all said and done Chun s shorts are so full of holes it is probably becoming embarrassing for him to turn around. You guys still do not get it. The" nerdball" butt boys at brand x are looking like the fools they are. The word is getting out and the trickle is becoming a flood.
Murphy is the one recruit I really wanted but I understand looking at other options when the coach that recruits you is fired. Chun did what he had to do, he had no option with the state our program was in. Time to move on and enjoy what seems to be a huge step in the right direction.
It we're not careful, our men's basketball program is going to become the worst in the conference.
Well he didn't exactly shoot all that great in his 13 games of JC ball last year. 28% from 3, and 39% overall. I don't recall if he was injured, in a shooting funk, or...?. What will be interesting is to see who is now interested in him. Did his stock cool, or heat up?
Henson had a rather poor FG% at JC ball as well, but I'm not so sure he's on board.
Henson had a rather poor FG% at JC ball as well, but I'm not so sure he's on board.
Elc you want people who want to be here and are willing to do whatever to get out of 11th place in the conference .
Murphy has been contacted by Nebraska,CSU,LMU,SMU and Depaul. He was a quality Kent recruit. If Chun was going to make a change,he should have hired a quality coach. I do not think that he did that Time will tell but Smith s beginning looks terrible no matter how you slice it. There were some quality coaches out there but Chun hired essentially his third choice at best.He did not really have a plan and also screwed WSU in the shaky process. We shall see how the 12.6 million dollar coach does over the next few years.Maybe Moos will chuckle if Murphy commits to Nebraska?
I love the hire and I'm excited about Cougar basketball for the first time in years. I've already added to my CAF giving and sent a note of thanks to the AD in support of what he's done. If he wants to use my money to help pay Kent off, it's money well spent.,
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What? Because players left? Seriously? When Mike Leach came on board, there were many players that left. When Kamie Ethridge was hired, there were many players that left. This happens everywhere. I hope we do not have years of you calling names and acting immaturely like you did during the Ken Bone years.
Murphy is not going to make or break WSU going forward. A change HAD to be made.
I’m excited to see what Smith can do. I had no faith in Ernie turning things around.
Since when has that been the criteria ? I will say I am truly fascinated. Kent should have had a program even if it had 6 conference wins you could say look at the progress, there is a system in place , his best talent are freshman and sophomores and the one player they lose is the 8 player due to using up his eligibility. But there doesn’t appear to be a system, discipline , or the players ready to make it past this year? What is the plan?
Since I don’t spend a lot of time on the board I don’t know if he is upset because Kent was mistreated or constantly criticized by posters or if el has a personal relationship with the staff .
The level of bitterness does feel personal, whether directed at the players, fans, or administration. I don't get it myself. And I say this as someone who backed Kent and wanted him to succeed (guaranteed contract still needs to be paid), but it's obvious we were looking at Mass exodus regardless and the team clearly quit on Kent in the last game against Oregon. And Ernie clearly quit on the team. Changes needed to be made.
Looks terrible?
But you were/are just fine with a handful of conference wins over four years. Cool.
Well, multiple NBA head coaches/executives and NBA players, and well respected college coaches disagree with you. But what the hell do they know?
Klay Thompson wanted Smith. Who is likely a better judge of a coach?
I can’t believe there have been this many responses to that troll.
There is a coaching fraternity which sees no evil hears no evil and speaks no evil The pruff will be da puddin gents So far..
I agree. That is why I made my point to Loyal and not the useless troll.
This all seems like Smith/WSU moving on rather than Murphy making the decision to leave WSU. Do you get that impression?
He has after all had injury (foot) problems at both schools the last 2 years (Charlotte, and New Mexico JC. He missed a ton of games at both schools.
I have no idea what was said behind closed doors, but Murphy is a volume shooter in an era which values efficiency. 28% from behind the arc isn't great.
Pretty sure it was Smith who went a different direction. Regardless, I hope Murphy lands in a good spot.
I could be wrong, but I get the feeling that Kent was just going after anybody who would look his way (desperation) while Smith is targeting players that will fit his style and system....which is possibly why Murphy no longer fits, much in the same way that Skaggs would not fit even if he wanted to return to WSU. Smith may have to bring in a grad transfer or two....but he'll be a lot more discerning when it comes to players who would tie up a scholarship for more than 1 year. They'll need to have the skills to play defense no matter how good of a shooter they might be.
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Since he asked for a release, one would think that he was given his release so that offer is no longer on the table.
if you really think WSU chose to go another direction and didn't want Murphy then theres a lot of delusional fans on this message board. Regardless of percentage for him, Murphy was considered arguably the best shooter in JC this year. Actually would have fit in nice with coach smith scheme as would Henson who I doubt very seriously is coming. I will say this, I find it hard to believe WSU will find a better shooter in Coach Smith time at WSU then Ryan Murphy and the loss of him is a blow.
What’s strange is he was pretty vocal “Go Coug’s” until the announcement and it’s not like he announced a destination. Something fundamentally changed for him over a couple of days. That can happen of course.
Murphy best offer is probably New Mexico State, who rely heavily on JC's. He's played 22 games in 2 years. Had a 1:1 A:T ratio at both Charlotte and JC ball. That is probably why he isn't at WSU. Smith doesn't want a guy who's turned the ball over 43 times in 22 games.
Well I think there is more to the story than Murphy being the "best shooter in JC ball". He didn't play in roughly 50% of his team's games over the course of the last two years due to an injury to his foot. Is he healthy now? Are there concerns over his health moving forward? If so, is that why higher tier teams/higher tier conference teams appear to have cooled, and/or backed off? He played in 13 games, and missed 17 at NM JC, and he missed around 10 games the prior year at Charlotte.
Second, he was very inconsistent in the 13 games he played last year at JC, and he didn't shoot the ball very well. Only 28% on threes (28-100 attempts), and 39% from the field. That's a lot of missed threes pumped up in only 13 games. I'm starting to get the impression of a Skaggs type player.
Maybe there is more to the story, but on paper, if I was a coach I would have some concerns over the above mentioned information.
Watching a couple of his JC games online in terms of shooting Skaggs came to mind I terms of looking for the 3. Brandx termed him as a “PG” in their article and personally didn’t think that was accurate. He’s a gunner.
Henson seems similar. Looks mostly for the 3. Good range but not exactly versatile. Personally I thought John had the most upside of the 3 players signed in the fall even given the competition he’s played against looks on the low side.
For those of you that weren't impressed by Murphy's other choices, well lets see now, hes only been contacted by Gonzaga, TCU, Unlv, Pittsburgh, Nevada, Cal. I would say that isn't to shabby. Ryan Murphy was the best recruit coming in. Dont know what happened but the staff should have done a better job to keep Murphy a Coug! imma do some digging cause now im very interested to know why Murphy decommitted after being all in!
I'll save you some time, El. Dude can't shoot and is a turnover machine. Probably a liability on defenes too.
