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Sagarin rankings UW (33) vs. Cougs (35)...

UW has a much better D than TT and PSU so it will be interesting to see what Mateer can do against them. I think he is going have to stay in the pocket more and be patient. This is going to be a tough early season game.
 
UW has a much better D than TT and PSU so it will be interesting to see what Mateer can do against them. I think he is going have to stay in the pocket more and be patient. This is going to be a tough early season game.
Not if they drop 8. Although $5 sez they line up in a 3-man line but blitz a LB or 2 in to stuff his runs.
 
They’ve been blitzing about 50% of the time. We’re going to learn a lot about Mateer this week.
zbut do they typically run a 3-4 defense? I dunno. My point being will they fake dropping 8 and bring more than 3 to fool us? And yeah, Mateer has already proven his mettle against a P4 team. Now he has his chance to become a Coug icon.
 
Not if they drop 8. Although $5 sez they line up in a 3-man line but blitz a LB or 2 in to stuff his runs.
If they are smart they just assign a spy and make the Cougs earn it though the air. And of course they'll hold our WRs on every route and not get called on it.

Could get ugly if WSU WRs don't do their job and catch the ball.
 
If they are smart they just assign a spy and make the Cougs earn it though the air. And of course they'll hold our WRs on every route and not get called on it.

Could get ugly if WSU WRs don't do their job and catch the ball.
That’s what I’d do after last week. Set a safety as a spy and don’t let Mateer get free. Blitz mostly from the edges and try to keep him in the pocket, force him to throw. See if he can beat you with his arm.

On the other side, same as always. Run it between the tackles and wear down our middle, especially at LB where we have no depth. PSU and TT both showed that we’re soft in the middle. When we start playing DBs tight for run support, throw it behind them.
 
That’s what I’d do after last week. Set a safety as a spy and don’t let Mateer get free. Blitz mostly from the edges and try to keep him in the pocket, force him to throw. See if he can beat you with his arm.

On the other side, same as always. Run it between the tackles and wear down our middle, especially at LB where we have no depth. PSU and TT both showed that we’re soft in the middle. When we start playing DBs tight for run support, throw it behind them.
We do the same thing to them, I think.

Stack the box and make the qb earn it. He's not so great is my understanding.
 
Using a spy is a double edged sword. Yes, it is probably necessary after what Mateer did last week. But it ties up a safety or LB (usually a LB). That means the LB can't blitz and is only available to help when we run right up the middle, do a screen middle, or do a shallow slant pattern. If they come in with a 3 man front and a spy, we should be able to get 3-4 ypc almost automatically. If they show spy but occasionally use him to blitz, it will be risky. A lot of it depends upon how well the O line and RB pick up the blitz. Assignment responsibility will be crucial. And one thing we did not show last week was a RB holding to block and then swinging out for a dump pass late. I'd bet money that we see that this week.
 
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Using a spy is a double edged sword. Yes, it is probably necessary after what Mateer did last week. But it ties up a safety or LB (usually a LB). That means the LB can't blitz and is only available to help when we run right up the middle, do a screen middle, or do a shallow slant pattern. If they come in with a 3 man front and a spy, we should be able to get 3-4 ypc almost automatically. If they show spy but occasionally use him to blitz, it will be risky. A lot of it depends upon how well the O line and RB pick up the blitz. Assignment responsibility will be crucial. And one thing we did not show last week was a RB holding to block and then swinging out for a dump pass late. I'd bet money that we see that this week.
Agree, if they use a spy on Mateer, running backs could really have a big game.

I haven't watched any of the Husky games, but according to the computers, this game should be pretty evenly matched.
 
Using a spy is a double edged sword. Yes, it is probably necessary after what Mateer did last week. But it ties up a safety or LB (usually a LB). That means the LB can't blitz and is only available to help when we run right up the middle, do a screen middle, or do a shallow slant pattern. If they come in with a 3 man front and a spy, we should be able to get 3-4 ypc almost automatically. If they show spy but occasionally use him to blitz, it will be risky. A lot of it depends upon how well the O line and RB pick up the blitz. Assignment responsibility will be crucial. And one thing we did not show last week was a RB holding to block and then swinging out for a dump pass late. I'd bet money that we see that this week.

If they rush 3,4 with a Spy, and drop 6,7 back, WSU will do 2 things to counter that.

1. RB's will have a field day gashing them all day long for 4, 4.5, 5, 5.5,6 yards per carry, all day long, and Parker, etc, will have 2,3, BIG PLAY, GAINS.

2. Schlenbaker, Pulasi, TE, O Line all combined together will counter, block, kick out, deal with, etc, the spy, for John Mateer, and John Mateer will still gash them for 7, 7.5, 8, 8.5, 9, 9.5 yards, per carry and still will have 2,3,4,5 big run plays

WSU, John Mateer, RB's will successfully do that so much so that if UW then puts 5,6,7,8 in the Box, then Mateer will torch them thru the air.

The key will be RECOGNITION, by John Mateer, and the Coaching staff, and John Mateer, O Line, RB's, TE, WR's, offense EXECUTING at a HIGH level.
 
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Agree, if they use a spy on Mateer, running backs could really have a big game.

I haven't watched any of the Husky games, but according to the computers, this game should be pretty evenly matched.
I haven’t either but their defense appears to have been pretty dominant. Eastern Michigan couldn’t do much of anything. Weber state ran it pretty effectively but their QB couldn’t throw it. I haven’t watched a down of their games but I’d guess this is by far the toughest challenge considering the threat of pass and run. Perhaps that was part of the plan these first two weeks was to show the full array of how we can attack. It’s going to make for a helluva tough defensive game planning week for UW. Quite the contrast to what they’ve had to do in the past.
 
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We do the same thing to them, I think.

Stack the box and make the qb earn it. He's not so great is my understanding.
He’s been efficient but he’s not a threat to run and throws underneath a lot. Can definitely be death by 1000 papercuts if we aren’t getting pressure. Good thing is he’s an air raid QB and our defenders are used to that system and route concepts.
 
Using a spy is a double edged sword. Yes, it is probably necessary after what Mateer did last week. But it ties up a safety or LB (usually a LB). That means the LB can't blitz and is only available to help when we run right up the middle, do a screen middle, or do a shallow slant pattern. If they come in with a 3 man front and a spy, we should be able to get 3-4 ypc almost automatically. If they show spy but occasionally use him to blitz, it will be risky. A lot of it depends upon how well the O line and RB pick up the blitz. Assignment responsibility will be crucial. And one thing we did not show last week was a RB holding to block and then swinging out for a dump pass late. I'd bet money that we see that this week.
Agreed, but I don't think you can spy Mateer with an LB. He's faster than that. If your edges can keep him in the pocket, maybe an LB spy can close the middle, but that's relying on too many variables and they're going to break down. A safety spy narrows the speed gap, but may leave some downfield openings in the passing game...which kind of goes back to 'make him beat you with his arm.'

With a lot of QBs, you can blitz from their front side and make them roll weak side to reduce their options. Mateer showed last week he can run to anywhere. He broke big ones on both sides and up the middle. His weakness was when he was forced out of the pocket but couldn't find a lane...in those cases he tended to fire sidearm rockets that almost always ended up on the ground. If he can get control of the adrenaline and put some touch on those passes, he's going to be a lot harder to defend.
 
Agreed, but I don't think you can spy Mateer with an LB. He's faster than that. If your edges can keep him in the pocket, maybe an LB spy can close the middle, but that's relying on too many variables and they're going to break down. A safety spy narrows the speed gap, but may leave some downfield openings in the passing game...which kind of goes back to 'make him beat you with his arm.'

With a lot of QBs, you can blitz from their front side and make them roll weak side to reduce their options. Mateer showed last week he can run to anywhere. He broke big ones on both sides and up the middle. His weakness was when he was forced out of the pocket but couldn't find a lane...in those cases he tended to fire sidearm rockets that almost always ended up on the ground. If he can get control of the adrenaline and put some touch on those passes, he's going to be a lot harder to defend.
I’m expecting they’ll load the box and send pressure from a variety of angles/zone blitzes, etc. force him to recognize the blitz and beat them with his arm against man coverage. If they lose contain on him, there will be some huge scramble plays with DBs having their backs turned. Will be quite the chess match.
 
I’m expecting they’ll load the box and send pressure from a variety of angles/zone blitzes, etc. force him to recognize the blitz and beat them with his arm against man coverage. If they lose contain on him, there will be some huge scramble plays with DBs having their backs turned. Will be quite the chess match.
YEah, they can't spy him on every down. Disguising blitzes and coverages has to be a big part of the plan.

I'm not sure what kind of defensive personnel UW has this year (and other than this week, I couldn't care less), so not sure what I'd really look for. I'd definitely have Mateer practicing against some shifting coverages this week though.
 
YEah, they can't spy him on every down. Disguising blitzes and coverages has to be a big part of the plan.

I'm not sure what kind of defensive personnel UW has this year (and other than this week, I couldn't care less), so not sure what I'd really look for. I'd definitely have Mateer practicing against some shifting coverages this week though.
This basically how we’ve been defending as well. I’m sure he’s gotten used to these looks in practice as has our line. Lots of exotic blitzes from our defense on Saturday it looked like.
 
Husky’s refused to play in Pullman.

It’s that simple.

UW’s AD thought it was a great idea and locked us in.
 
Get in’s down to $54 today on Gametime. Charter seats on 50 yd line, row f down to $147.

At some point all those unsold tickets will be released to a wholesaler and prices will plummet to cut losses for the promoter.
 
I’m expecting they’ll load the box and send pressure from a variety of angles/zone blitzes, etc. force him to recognize the blitz and beat them with his arm against man coverage. If they lose contain on him, there will be some huge scramble plays with DBs having their backs turned. Will be quite the chess match.

And if they do that, WSU, Dickert, Arbuckle counters with Schlenbaker and TE and O Line blocking, Mateer's Escapability, etc, which should give Mateer enough time to get it to 1 of either Kyle Williams, Tre Shackleford, Hutson, a TE coming off a block for a 6 yard underneath that turns into YAC, a RB that comes off a block for 6 yards that turns into YAC.

The Keys will be RECOGNITION, Execution by Mateer, and EXECUTION by the TE, Schlenbaker, Parker, O Line, and RECOGNITION, AND EXECUTION BY WR's, etc, and RECOGNITION, EXECUTION by Arbuckle.
 
Get in’s down to $54 today on Gametime. Charter seats on 50 yd line, row f down to $147.

At some point all those unsold tickets will be released to a wholesaler and prices will plummet to cut losses for the promoter.
Still too expensive. Still not going.
 
I’m expecting they’ll load the box and send pressure from a variety of angles/zone blitzes, etc. force him to recognize the blitz and beat them with his arm against man coverage. If they lose contain on him, there will be some huge scramble plays with DBs having their backs turned. Will be quite the chess match.

Their Man coverage would get BURNED.

A Match up, semi short to semi mid zone, with zone blitz's, and successfully beating Schlenbaker, TE, O Line, to get pressure, an or sack Mateer is their only hope of stopping Mateer thru the air, if they load the Box with 6,7,8 in box
 
Still too expensive. Still not going.
Aren't those about Martin Stadium prices? Less the tank-plus of gas and whatever else depending on your location. I should go, it's a shorter trip from YakiVegas to Seattle than to Pullman. Easy day trip. I can pony up $54 or whatever. I just can't deal with the thought of Wetside traffic. Last time I was there I swore I would never return.
 
can someone remind me again why this HAD to be played at Lumen?
We "had" to be nice and do a neutral game because UW needed "help" scheduling due to their conference move. Instead of telling them to pound sand and figure it out, the WSU admin decided to help because....?

So yeah, same question you have.
 
can someone remind me again why this HAD to be played at Lumen?
I've explained this before but will explain it again. After the Traitors announced they were leaving, future schedules went out the window. I don't know which side started the conversation, but in the end the mutts didn't want the 50/50 home and home to continue. And why would they? Notice that their non-con schedule for the next 7 year (2024 included) has a bunch of home only games other than WSU and Tennessee. Anyway, the Lumen "neutral field" component made the deal. All of our outrage (mine too) aside, this is a pretty good deal for WSU.

 
I've explained this before but will explain it again. After the Traitors announced they were leaving, future schedules went out the window. I don't know which side started the conversation, but in the end the mutts didn't want the 50/50 home and home to continue. And why would they? Notice that their non-con schedule for the next 7 year (2024 included) has a bunch of home only games other than WSU and Tennessee. Anyway, the Lumen "neutral field" component made the deal. All of our outrage (mine too) aside, this is a pretty good deal for WSU.

If they didn't want the 50/50 to continue, they can pound sand and find other opponents to play. They left.
 
Aren't those about Martin Stadium prices? Less the tank-plus of gas and whatever else depending on your location. I should go, it's a shorter trip from YakiVegas to Seattle than to Pullman. Easy day trip. I can pony up $54 or whatever. I just can't deal with the thought of Wetside traffic. Last time I was there I swore I would never return.
The $54 is actually below Martin prices. But it's for 3rd deck seats where you can barely see what's going on. And then there's all the other costs - gas, parking, the dose of narcan you need after walking in downtown seattle, tetanus shot, etc.

Also...I posted this yesterday (from a Brand Z article), but it bears repeating:

"I know this may feel petty, but are there any games in the previous 11 you'd put at #1 in anything? Was there a single time you walked out of Seahawks Stadium thinking "I'm glad I did that. That was worth the money." Of course you haven't. You're going out of obligation, not because you actually want to go. When I watched the game from the hospital last year, the first thing I learned was "I do not miss being at this game". All the hand-wringing over attendance and the lack of loyalty from Cougar fans is kind of silly. The product is not compelling and we're trying to guilt people into giving up their time and money to attend a game that has never been an enjoyable experience, even when the team is good."
 
1. Buy a get in ticket

2. Enter stadium

3. Use the gametime app to find real-time, unsold available seats ( hint: they will be everywhere throughout the stadium.

4. Sit in the unsold seat at your favorite location.

5. Enjoy
 
1. Buy a get in ticket

2. Enter stadium

3. Use the gametime app to find real-time, unsold available seats ( hint: they will be everywhere throughout the stadium.

4. Sit in the unsold seat at your favorite location.

5. Enjoy
You. Are. Brilliant.
 
1. Buy a get in ticket

2. Enter stadium

3. Use the gametime app to find real-time, unsold available seats ( hint: they will be everywhere throughout the stadium.

4. Sit in the unsold seat at your favorite location.

5. Enjoy
That is pretty clever. Credit for that.
 
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Thanks but, I credit my WSU education for helping develop critical thinking skills.
Ok, I've asked it on the hate board, but will repeat here. What was your degree in?

And to be fair, I dislike you less on this board. I'm always ready to have poster amnesia and banter with anyone on anything Coug.
 
We "had" to be nice and do a neutral game because UW needed "help" scheduling due to their conference move. Instead of telling them to pound sand and figure it out, the WSU admin decided to help because....?

So yeah, same question you have.
To keep it short. Pat. Chun. Y’all can thank him at the stadium on Saturday by telling him he’s number one.
 
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