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The humor writes itself - They will never figure out that they are Fox News’s punchline
 
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Brand X is reporting that Nick Whitworth will be coaching TEs/H-Backs & be point guy on special teams. He has been special teams coach at Texas State for a couple of years and also coached at Portland State & Central Washington. One more spot to go....it will be the safeties coach to replace Banker. Dickert has already identified Jordan Malone as the cornerbacks coach.

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Brand X is reporting that Nick Whitworth will be coaching TEs/H-Backs & be point guy on special teams. He has been special teams coach at Texas State for a couple of years and also coached at Portland State & Central Washington. One more spot to go....it will be the safeties coach to replace Banker. Dickert has already identified Jordan Malone as the cornerbacks coach.

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Football?
this is a political thread.
 
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Seriously. No really seriously. The incompetent corrupt vegetable who continually calls Kamala president ****s up everything he touches. EVERYTHING. And you say Trump is no different. Trump faced the press every day. This ass clown won't take questions EVER and when he does his staff runs the press out of the room. Good Lord. Do your really want to get into a pissing contest on whom is being honest.
Trump and honest question. What could Trump do that would either make you sit out an election or vote for another candidate ? What are your boundaries ?
 
I'll tell you what is silly. 33% of those polled (if you believe the polls) still think this senile hair sniffing grifter is doing a bang up job. What I would give for 1.79 gas and a couple mean tweets right about now. On another note, I hope the Elf gives Josh Wood an offer. Coug legacy who is a gamer and would be a great addition in the QB room.

Anyone who thinks that gas prices have anything to do with the President is an idiot. Look up "gas price history" and you'll realize that using gas prices as a metric to measure a President is moronic at best. Gas prices dropped and stayed low for most of Clinton's time as President. Gas prices skyrocketed under Bush. They peaked in 2012 before dropping dramatically under Obama. Was Obama a "great" President? Gas prices jumped 25% in Trump's first year. Was that his fault? Anyone with a brain knows that gas prices have always been driven by factors outside a President's control.
 
Trump and honest question. What could Trump do that would either make you sit out an election or vote for another candidate ? What are your boundaries ?
Endorse the green new deal, not reopen the keystone pipeline, not give 2 shits about the southern border, allow the Chinese to own him like they do the old sniffer, give Fauci the congressional medal of honor, not open investigations against all the insider traders in the senate and the house (republicans and communists alike). That was a softball Ed! Have you considered a job at MSNBC? Bring some cheese brotha. I will even take your best eephus pitch. Oh and have a nice weekend.

Edit: Most importantly grab Maxine Waters by the P. That would be a deal breaker for me!
 
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Endorse the green new deal, not reopen the keystone pipeline, not give 2 shits about the southern border, allow the Chinese to own him like they do the old sniffer, give Fauci the congressional medal of honor, not open investigations against all the insider traders in the senate and the house (republicans and communists alike). That was a softball Ed! Have you considered a job at MSNBC? Bring some cheese brotha. I will even take your best eephus pitch. Oh and have a nice weekend.

Edit: Most importantly grab Maxine Waters by the P. That would be a deal breaker for me!
But you are ok with him not moving against but bags who stormed the capital ? What if he had previous knowledge and a plan to overturn an election, doesn’t move you ?
 
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Endorse the green new deal, not reopen the keystone pipeline, not give 2 shits about the southern border, allow the Chinese to own him like they do the old sniffer, give Fauci the congressional medal of honor, not open investigations against all the insider traders in the senate and the house (republicans and communists alike). That was a softball Ed! Have you considered a job at MSNBC? Bring some cheese brotha. I will even take your best eephus pitch. Oh and have a nice weekend.

Edit: Most importantly grab Maxine Waters by the P. That would be a deal breaker for me!
Do you believe that climate change is real?
 
But you are ok with him not moving against but bags who stormed the capital ? What if he had previous knowledge and a plan to overturn an election, doesn’t move you ?
January 6th was a shit show. What I would like to know is why didn't Pelosi and the incompetent DC mayor of DC accept his offer for the national guard? Why were the Capital Hill police literally escorting people into the capital? Why didn't the DOJ or FBI interview the cop (I believe his name was Michael Byrd) who shot and killed Ashley Babbitt. Why wont' the woman who works for the FBI answer Ted' Cruz's questions regarding Ray Epps?

DJT asked the people at the rally on Jan 6 to "head down to the capital and PEACEFULLY let your voices be heard" There is video of him saying it...check it out. Have any of the those people who "stormed" the capital been charged with insurrection? That would be no. But every damn one of them has been contacted by the FBI and many are doing time in prison. Can't say the same about the 20,000 people arrested during the 400 riots during the Summer of 2020. Shit, Heels Up Harris was leading the charge to get them bailed out.

So...moving against "but bags" who "stormed" the capital. Do you want him to go out and start lobbying to take away their conjugal visits. What do you mean moving against? Sounds sinister Ed. Regarding a plan to overturn an election, everything that was done that day with Mike Pence was by the book.

What does move me is that Hillary and the DNC paid for the Christopher Steele Dossier. Durham indicted Igor Danchenko late last year, he has ties to HC and the DNC. More indictments to come. For 3 effing year it was RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA, COLUSSION COLLUSSION COLLUSION, 40 mm spent on the bogus Mueller investigation and in the end it was the DNC and Hillary that lit that match.
 
Do you believe that climate change is real?
Yes climate always changes. It was 70 degrees at my house last week, Sunday were are expected to get 8 inches of snow.

Edit - Need to go enjoy my dinner and bourbon. I will be back on Tuesday to field any and all questions. I am enjoying my time educating the less informed. Especially interested in those questions focused on how a TE fits into the Air Raid offense. TC out.
 
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But you are ok with him not moving against but bags who stormed the capital ? What if he had previous knowledge and a plan to overturn an election, doesn’t move you ?
Nice hypothetical, now for a real question. What would turn YOU against all the Democrats that schemed for four years to overturn the 2016 election, knowing that there was no evidence against the president?
 
Endorse the green new deal, not reopen the keystone pipeline, not give 2 shits about the southern border, allow the Chinese to own him like they do the old sniffer, give Fauci the congressional medal of honor, not open investigations against all the insider traders in the senate and the house (republicans and communists alike). That was a softball Ed! Have you considered a job at MSNBC? Bring some cheese brotha. I will even take your best eephus pitch. Oh and have a nice weekend.

Edit: Most importantly grab Maxine Waters by the P. That would be a deal breaker for me!
Lol…he could grab (name the most important lady in your life) by the P and you’d be taking selfies.
 
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Yes climate always changes. It was 70 degrees at my house last week, Sunday were are expected to get 8 inches of snow.

Edit - Need to go enjoy my dinner and bourbon. I will be back on Tuesday to field any and all questions. I am enjoying my time educating the less informed. Especially interested in those questions focused on how a TE fits into the Air Raid offense. TC out.
That answer tells me what I expected from you. You are someone that has a superficial knowledge about things, including football.
 
Nice hypothetical, now for a real question. What would turn YOU against all the Democrats that schemed for four years to overturn the 2016 election, knowing that there was no evidence against the president?
Except there was. That is the reason he is a twice impeached President, that had votes to impeach from sitting Republicans.
 
Anyone who thinks that gas prices have anything to do with the President is an idiot. Look up "gas price history" and you'll realize that using gas prices as a metric to measure a President is moronic at best. Gas prices dropped and stayed low for most of Clinton's time as President. Gas prices skyrocketed under Bush. They peaked in 2012 before dropping dramatically under Obama. Was Obama a "great" President? Gas prices jumped 25% in Trump's first year. Was that his fault? Anyone with a brain knows that gas prices have always been driven by factors outside a President's control.
To be clear, I'm on your side of this in terms of the general point (and I've managed to avoid threads like this for a long time), but while it's not like a President should be judged by gas prices or has clear and effective control over them, some aspects are within the President's control (e.g., handling of the strategic oil reserve, environmental policy re new discoveries, trade deals with OPEC and non-member producers, treasury and fed appointments with resulting impacts on fiscal and monetary policy, policies on alternatives, such as renewables, environmental and sector-specific regulations, pursuing conflicts in oil-producing regions (like Bush did), etc.). All that stuff is highly impactful. But agree re simple comparisons of the jobs Presidents are doing based on gas prices.
 
Except there was. That is the reason he is a twice impeached President, that had votes to impeach from sitting Republicans.
I don’t think TrumpCoug is gonna enter the transfer portal. His team is 2-44, committed 200+ NCAA violations, tried to lynch a referee crew, has no weight room or training facility and the training table is end to end with Big Macs. But damnit he’s staying for his 7th year and they are gonna win the natty!
 
January 6th was a shit show. What I would like to know is why didn't Pelosi and the incompetent DC mayor of DC accept his offer for the national guard? Why were the Capital Hill police literally escorting people into the capital? Why didn't the DOJ or FBI interview the cop (I believe his name was Michael Byrd) who shot and killed Ashley Babbitt. Why wont' the woman who works for the FBI answer Ted' Cruz's questions regarding Ray Epps?

DJT asked the people at the rally on Jan 6 to "head down to the capital and PEACEFULLY let your voices be heard" There is video of him saying it...check it out. Have any of the those people who "stormed" the capital been charged with insurrection? That would be no. But every damn one of them has been contacted by the FBI and many are doing time in prison. Can't say the same about the 20,000 people arrested during the 400 riots during the Summer of 2020. Shit, Heels Up Harris was leading the charge to get them bailed out.

So...moving against "but bags" who "stormed" the capital. Do you want him to go out and start lobbying to take away their conjugal visits. What do you mean moving against? Sounds sinister Ed. Regarding a plan to overturn an election, everything that was done that day with Mike Pence was by the book.

What does move me is that Hillary and the DNC paid for the Christopher Steele Dossier. Durham indicted Igor Danchenko late last year, he has ties to HC and the DNC. More indictments to come. For 3 effing year it was RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA, COLUSSION COLLUSSION COLLUSION, 40 mm spent on the bogus Mueller investigation and in the end it was the DNC and Hillary that lit that match.
In other words nothing . Understood . And what Trump did up to and including Jan 6th was not by the book . Show me another president calling up a sec of state asking them to find 11780 votes .
But I appreciate your honesty .
 
Nice hypothetical, now for a real question. What would turn YOU against all the Democrats that schemed for four years to overturn the 2016 election, knowing that there was no evidence against the president?
Well stretch … let me help you out . If Hillary Clinton abs Chelsea Clinton did what Don and Don Junior did I would have impeached her without a trial .

I don’t need the Steele Dossier etc. Don junior took a meeting with the Russians, Trump lied about it for 8 months. Could have easily been written up as a rookie mistake . An overzealous son . They had the responsibility to tell the FBI. They chose not to.

Do you not remember Don Jr lying about meeting with them and then it was discovered via email “if that is what you think it is I love it and should be released early august .

They danced with a foreign enemy . I don’t need any more proof than his own emails . However, the difference between you and I if that was Hillary I would have impeached her. If Hillary did what Trump did on Jan 6 I would impeach her the next day .

That is the difference between you and I.
 
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Except there was. That is the reason he is a twice impeached President, that had votes to impeach from sitting Republicans.
Are you referring to the Super Secret Evidence possessed by Adam Schiff and Swalwell that they kept saying they had but never produced? Or the completely believable Steele Dossier? Maybe you meant all the firm evidence produced by the $40,000,000 investigation led by the special prosecutor that is about as senile as Gropey Joe?

Please-that entire Russia hoax was a political witch hunt from start to finish. I kept waiting some actual evidence to appear and none did.
 
January 6th was a shit show. What I would like to know is why didn't Pelosi and the incompetent DC mayor of DC accept his offer for the national guard? Why were the Capital Hill police literally escorting people into the capital? Why didn't the DOJ or FBI interview the cop (I believe his name was Michael Byrd) who shot and killed Ashley Babbitt. Why wont' the woman who works for the FBI answer Ted' Cruz's questions regarding Ray Epps?

DJT asked the people at the rally on Jan 6 to "head down to the capital and PEACEFULLY let your voices be heard" There is video of him saying it...check it out. Have any of the those people who "stormed" the capital been charged with insurrection? That would be no. But every damn one of them has been contacted by the FBI and many are doing time in prison. Can't say the same about the 20,000 people arrested during the 400 riots during the Summer of 2020. Shit, Heels Up Harris was leading the charge to get them bailed out.

So...moving against "but bags" who "stormed" the capital. Do you want him to go out and start lobbying to take away their conjugal visits. What do you mean moving against? Sounds sinister Ed. Regarding a plan to overturn an election, everything that was done that day with Mike Pence was by the book.

What does move me is that Hillary and the DNC paid for the Christopher Steele Dossier. Durham indicted Igor Danchenko late last year, he has ties to HC and the DNC. More indictments to come. For 3 effing year it was RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA, COLUSSION COLLUSSION COLLUSION, 40 mm spent on the bogus Mueller investigation and in the end it was the DNC and Hillary that lit that match.
2 wrongs by 2 different people or groups, etc, don't make a right.

Yes the riots, following George Floyd, by Antifa, BLM were just as bad, worse then Jan 6.

Yes what you said about Hillary, Steele, Russia, dossier, Mueller investigation, Durham, etc, is true.

Yes Trump may have said to peacefully protest on Jan 6.

BUT BUT BUT BUT.

That does not excuse Jan 6 capital riots.

And altho they were UNARMED, etc, they did want to, try to get to Mike Pence to try to MAKE, FORCE him to NOT certify the election results, and thus to OVERTURN LEGIT election results.

And there is a extremely small part of the Republican base that is EXTREME, CRAZY, that would take Trump's FIERY RHETORIC, as a reason to riot in the capital, and try to get Pence to overturn election.

And Trump did try to get Pence to not certify, and overturn the election.

And yes Maxine Waters, AOC, Omar, Tglaib, etc, whose FIERY RHETORIC, spark their extremist followers to riot, loot, burn, etc, should be held just as accountable, responsible, as Trump.

And yes if FIERY RHETORIC INCITES VIOLENCE, etc, that FIERY RHETORIC, should be punished, have consequences.

Also they interviewed LOTS of those who rioted in the capital, and they said they did that because they thought that Trump was telling them that there was election fraud, and that it was up to patriots like them to stop it by making Pence not certify election, and thus overturn the supposedly fraudulent election. They believed they were doing the right thing to save our country, because they believed Trump.

And that was on Fox News, and all the other news, so you can't say, that's from CNN, etc

And this is from a CONSERVATIVE.
 
Well stretch … let me help you out . If Hillary Clinton abs Chelsea Clinton did what Don and Don Junior did I would have impeached her without a trial .

I don’t need the Steele Dossier etc. Don junior took a meeting with the Russians, Trump lied about it for 8 months. Could have easily been written up as a rookie mistake . An overzealous son . They had the responsibility to tell the FBI. They chose not to.

Do you not remember Don Jr lying about meeting with them and then it was discovered via email “if that is what you think it is I love it and should be released early august .

They danced with a foreign enemy . I don’t need any more proof than his own emails . However, the difference between you and I if that was Hillary I would have impeached her. If Hillary did what Trump did on Jan 6 I would impeach her the next day .

That is the difference between you and I.

Yes, they did take a meeting with someone alleging to have dirt on HRC, right? And didn't that person have a meeting with attorneys associated with the Dems on the day before and after the meeting? I think that is what happened.

So if the Trumps had a duty to report that communication, from which nothing ever came of it, what was the duty of HRC, Marc Elias the dem attorney, Perkins Coeie, and all the rest of them that actively solicited help from the Russians to affect the election? Shouldn't they all be prosecuted.

Also, speaking of Hillary, have you ever proposed prosecuting her for having classified info on her private server, or for destroying email evidence that she was obligated to preserve? Why do I doubt that?

And the first impeachment of Trump was for a perfectly legitimate phone call to a foreign leader. And he was asking them to investigate the actions of the previous vice president who was actually captured on video blackmailing the foreign government. Now why shouldn't the presedent be allowed to do that, even should be EXPECTED to look into such activities.
 
Nice hypothetical, now for a real question. What would turn YOU against all the Democrats that schemed for four years to overturn the 2016 election, knowing that there was no evidence against the president?
Okay, this seems misplaced. Do you consider the over 100 house of representative GOP members and 6 senators who voted to endorse and proceed with the thwarting of the Jan 6 constitutional mandates procedures on the same level as the handful of democratic house members and ZERO democratic senators in 2016?...snuffed out by the democratic vice president?

And for the record, those few members back in 2016 were acting completely foolishly. Clinton won the popular vote, but those aren't the rules. She lost the election fair and square is all I have to say about that
 
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Yes, they did take a meeting with someone alleging to have dirt on HRC, right? And didn't that person have a meeting with attorneys associated with the Dems on the day before and after the meeting? I think that is what happened.

So if the Trumps had a duty to report that communication, from which nothing ever came of it, what was the duty of HRC, Marc Elias the dem attorney, Perkins Coeie, and all the rest of them that actively solicited help from the Russians to affect the election? Shouldn't they all be prosecuted.

Also, speaking of Hillary, have you ever proposed prosecuting her for having classified info on her private server, or for destroying email evidence that she was obligated to preserve? Why do I doubt that?

And the first impeachment of Trump was for a perfectly legitimate phone call to a foreign leader. And he was asking them to investigate the actions of the previous vice president who was actually captured on video blackmailing the foreign government. Now why shouldn't the presedent be allowed to do that, even should be EXPECTED to look into such activities.
Wait … you want to prosecute two cases is that correct? What I could surmise you are saying is what you think Trump and son did with regards to meeting Russians , lying about it for six months then lying about the content of the meeting was wrong. Wouldn’t an “innocent “ person merely say I screwed up , fess up initially and say it wasn’t what I intended to do. But rather they ran with it, asked out loud for the Russians to find the emails, and then had meetings behind the scenes.

So I could assume you aren’t ok with Trump meeting with a country who we spent billions against us in a Cold War, who currently has close to 1000 nukes pointed at us, and is considered an enemy of the state . What would Reagan think?

That is one way to interpret what you are saying . Just make justice fair and go after the Dems . Ok. Sure let’s jail them too.

Or a second way is to sift through the bs and determine that you are ok with a president seeking help from a nation who has nukes pointed at us.

In terms of Ukraine , Curb Your Enthusiasm just did an episode on the perfect call. There is a way to “investigate” what happened in Ukraine with Biden’s son . For example, you can release the funds at the same time you always do in June so Ukraine has its necessary funds then make the call and ask for them to look into what you believe was criminal . While I personally don’t believe it is relevant, however if there was that strong desire feel free and make the ask . That isn’t what happened . The funds were finally released in September.

And I haven’t even got into the president calling up Georgia to look to overturn the election and find 11780 votes .

Not to mention Navarros Green Bay sweep and all the presidents men trying a way to over turn an election .

Instead of saying the Dems did this or the Dems did that , just be honest and say you are ok with the behavior from former president trump . You are ok with select individuals nullifying votes. At least that is honest.
 
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Perhaps this is all I have to say about that.
Do yourself a favor and switch search engines. I'm not disputing or defending Here is the Evidence website. But I can tell you with absolute certainty you're not getting unbiased information or search.

Duck Duck Go is the only option if you really want to see what's out there. Feel free to google or bing to your heart's content but the algorithms are completely biased. Look at the code in the web address if you don't thnk there's 'stuff' going on behind the scenes letting you see what has been filtered.




 
A fact check? Bwahahahah...oh that's cute
Do you, without any scrutiny, simply accept any source you come across? Do you not use any form of cross-reference or analysis to determine if a source is factual or mostly factual and un-biased? If not, why not? And if you NEVER do so for those sites that just happen to agree with your ideology, why not?
 
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Do yourself a favor and switch search engines. I'm not disputing or defending Here is the Evidence website. But I can tell you with absolute certainty you're not getting unbiased information or search.

Duck Duck Go is the only option if you really want to see what's out there. Feel free to google or bing to your heart's content but the algorithms are completely biased. Look at the code in the web address if you don't thnk there's 'stuff' going on behind the scenes letting you see what has been filtered.




Mediabiasfactcheck isn't a product of Google searching. I discovered them years ago when they appeared in a separate source as a link if this is what you are getting at.
 
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Mediabiasfactcheck isn't a product of Google searching. I discovered them years ago when they appeared in a separate source as a link if this is what you are getting at.
Take my comment as neither defending nor Here's the Evidence equally with your mediabiasfactcheck.

Who is checking mediabiasfact check - mediabiasfactcheckfactcheck?

Not a fan of relying on others to determine 'truth'. There's more information at one's finger tips than at any time in human history. Why outsource it?
 
Take my comment as neither defending nor Here's the Evidence equally with your mediabiasfactcheck.

Who is checking mediabiasfact check - mediabiasfactcheckfactcheck?

Not a fan of relying on others to determine 'truth'. There's more information at one's finger tips than at any time in human history. Why outsource it?
Its quite simple actually.

If someone watches anything produced in the US as anything other than entertainment, then they have internal bias and cannot be objective to judge bias either way.

In other words, if Fox News or MSNBC are part of someones daily regimen, they they and their opinions are full of crap. Even that website that rates/ ranks "news" sources is wack - they somehow have the national liberal outlets more center than the conservative ones, with all the liberal sources "mostly reporting facts" and barely "skews left." Give me a break.
 
Its quite simple actually.

If someone watches anything produced in the US as anything other than entertainment, then they have internal bias and cannot be objective to judge bias either way.

In other words, if Fox News or MSNBC are part of someones daily regimen, they they and their opinions are full of crap. Even that website that rates/ ranks "news" sources is wack - they somehow have the national liberal outlets more center than the conservative ones, with all the liberal sources "mostly reporting facts" and barely "skews left." Give me a break.
Agreed to some degree -my regimen includes a healthy dose of BBC and a rotating schedule of CNBC, Fox Business and when I want a good laugh MSNBC. Very rarely venture into Fox News. CNN -total waste of time and perhaps their dismal ratings will cause John Malone to knock a few heads and get back to actual journalism. Would like to watch CBC like the old days of cable but my provider doesn't carry it.

Long-form podcasts are better than all of the above. Rogan plus Krystal and Saggar is more educational than any sound bites the party machines put out. Other journalists like Glen Grunwald, Matt Taibi, Lara Logan and Sharyl Atkison have escaped from the corporate plantation and still put out good stuff. Haven't quite determined how I feel about Megyn Kelly.

Guys like Andy Ngo and Tim Pool are fine but they get a little too far into the other side of the leftist extreme message.
 
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Agreed to some degree -my regimen includes a healthy dose of BBC and a rotating schedule of CNBC, Fox Business and when I want a good laugh MSNBC. Very rarely venture into Fox News. CNN -total waste of time and perhaps their dismal ratings will cause John Malone to knock a few heads and get back to actual journalism. Would like to watch CBC like the old days of cable but my provider doesn't carry it.

Long-form podcasts are better than all of the above. Rogan plus Krystal and Saggar is more educational than any sound bites the party machines put out. Other journalists like Glen Grunwald, Matt Taibi, Lara Logan and Sharyl Atkison have escaped from the corporate plantation and still put out good stuff. Haven't quite determined how I feel about Megyn Kelly.

Guys like Andy Ngo and Tim Pool are fine but they get a little too far into the other side of the leftist extreme message.

I generally avoid watching any of the major cable channel news networks. As far as I can tell, they are all trash in their own way.

I used to like Joe Rogan but he started to get on my nerves when COVID came along....maybe even a bit before that. He seemed less interested in learning new things and more interested in promoting what he thought he knew. I haven't listened to him in at least a couple years though. Also, his "bro" attitude was falling behind the times and he sometimes just reverted into a clueless meathead when he was trying to defend outdated ideas. Used to love his podcast though.
 
I generally avoid watching any of the major cable channel news networks. As far as I can tell, they are all trash in their own way.

I used to like Joe Rogan but he started to get on my nerves when COVID came along....maybe even a bit before that. He seemed less interested in learning new things and more interested in promoting what he thought he knew. I haven't listened to him in at least a couple years though. Also, his "bro" attitude was falling behind the times and he sometimes just reverted into a clueless meathead when he was trying to defend outdated ideas. Used to love his podcast though.
Too many times he's just baked out of his gourd - sorry, I can't take someone seriously if they are barely holding themselves up because they're too stoned. I'm not judging pot users, but somehow I think he thinks it makes him smarter than everyone else. And 3 hour streams of consciousness... ugh. No doubt, when he's lucid he speaks plainly and seems to make simple sense on a lot of topics, but a lot of what I've seen since he got his big contract is that he thinks he's smarter than the room. Also, he stopped bring on people that challenge his world view and now its either yes-men or people he wants to argue with; he's stopped being a student of the world, which was kindof his schtick for a while.
 
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