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Ok then we agree. The guy he should have punched was the guy short of pushing him out. He was not "leaving", he was being guided out by a guy. And the blond put her hands on him. Again, after what appears to be a reaction to someone out of the picture said to him, Luani said something. He was then being pushed out, not leaving of his own accord and voluntarily leaving. Before he exits he leans up against the door jame. He wasn't standing straight up. A woman put her hands on him ...the blond....and she too was sort of escorting him to leave.

The douche in the bandana opened the door, Luani looked to be leaving the guy did not overtly touch him as the first guy did who directed him to the door. He then suckered punched the douche.

The guy who Luani should have punched wasn't the douche, it was the guy directing him out.
The guy directing him out very well may have ended up being punched. Bandana Rama is more than likely the recipient of the busted jaw, he charged out leading with said jaw, probably had never been in a fight in his life but courage in a bottle, and an audience waiting around for shitty pizza at 1:30 in the morning can be receipt for disaster.

Ed curious why you "could have" feared the accountant? My experiences "typically" were those who couldn't handle their booze were at a disadvantage when it came to fisticuffs. Slow reaction time, disoriented, adrenaline rush would wind them very quickly etc. In fact I rarely remember seeing anyone who was housed winning a fight. It was usually over hand right and goodnight.
 
Bandana boy didn't do anything to deserve the shove to the face by Luani. It was a dick move by a drunken a-hole. As mentioned above, if you showed this video to anyone who is not affiliated with WSU and was unaware of who/what they were watching, every single person is going to say that Luani was in the wrong. Try it......you'll find that to be true.
Yea, yea, yea! Like no one else was drunk including the opportunistic bandana boy. You'll never convince me. Not in a million years.
 
Luani got his ass kicked because he has the same attitude that you have. I would like to think that your grandfather (a golden gloves boxer) would have also taught you that you only hand out ass kickings when they are necessary, not to every rando who disrespects you.

Part of being a real man is not feeling the need to prove your manhood to every random prick you run into. Our football team would have been well served to know that in the summer of 2016.
I failed to clarify my point here. The guy in the red head band wasn’t involved in the initial incident. Luani was yelling, but he was leaving the establishment. Then, head head band guy put his hands on him and pushed him towards the door.

See, for me that’s a no no. The dude was already leaving and he was pissed off. So you’re gonna put your hands on him and push him out. If someone did that to me in the same situation, I would punch them. WTF are you touching me for?
 
Jesus Ed, at one moment you're saying athletes have super powers (which they really do at times...even intoxicated), and then next you're trying to prove otherwise. No, we don't agree. He shouldn't of punched anybody. The guy guiding him out obviously had some semblance of appeal to reason that Shaun agreed with, but bandana boy wanted to appear as some superhero by adding insult to injury. And NO, if he wasn't leaving voluntarily...no one could pushed him out the door.

I guarantee he would of started this altercation inside the building, but- he had enough presence to know the correct coarse which was out the building. Furthermore, he had been pushed up against the door. Unless you can read lips....what did they actually say to each other?

And furthermore, I totally enjoyed my discussions with you on the "paid board" going back 14 years now?
Yea, yea, yea! Like no one else was drunk including the opportunistic bandana boy. You'll never convince me. Not in a million years.
First 14 years ? That makes you old . 😜. Second, everyone may have been drunk. One one hand it is clear one guy is pushing guiding him out . He is the one who had his hands on him. But you are saying he was ok with that guy and the blonds hand on him guiding pushing or whatever verb you want to use .

But the douche bag opening the door didn’t have his hands on him like the other two did. And if he was ok with being guided out why the problems with douche bag touching him ever so slightly ?

And if you don’t think Luani was intoxicated then not sure what you are seeing .
 
I failed to clarify my point here. The guy in the red head band wasn’t involved in the initial incident. Luani was yelling, but he was leaving the establishment. Then, head head band guy put his hands on him and pushed him towards the door.

See, for me that’s a no no. The dude was already leaving and he was pissed off. So you’re gonna put your hands on him and push him out. If someone did that to me in the same situation, I would punch them. WTF are you touching me for?
Got it . Big no no. Then what ? Clearly you would have already picked the real culprit in this whole event . So not sure what you gain by punching the guy bs the one who would have had his hands guiding u out .
 
The guy directing him out very well may have ended up being punched. Bandana Rama is more than likely the recipient of the busted jaw, he charged out leading with said jaw, probably had never been in a fight in his life but courage in a bottle, and an audience waiting around for shitty pizza at 1:30 in the morning can be receipt for disaster.

Ed curious why you "could have" feared the accountant? My experiences "typically" were those who couldn't handle their booze were at a disadvantage when it came to fisticuffs. Slow reaction time, disoriented, adrenaline rush would wind them very quickly etc. In fact I rarely remember seeing anyone who was housed winning a fight. It was usually over hand right and goodnight.
Well the guy didn’t drink all that much . Nor did he get in that state all that much. But if he was buzzed and provoked I do know what he was capable of.

I trained with the guy a couple of times . And while your experience is a quick punch to the jaw was good nite, the accountant was lightening and would not immediately use that same strategy.

He was a former marine , strong as hell for his size. And by todays demarcations he was probably a 10th degree black belt. The unknown dude is what would scare me not someone like Junior for example.
 
Well the guy didn’t drink all that much . Nor did he get in that state all that much. But if he was buzzed and provoked I do know what he was capable of.

I trained with the guy a couple of times . And while your experience is a quick punch to the jaw was good nite, the accountant was lightening and would not immediately use that same strategy.

He was a former marine , strong as hell for his size. And by todays demarcations he was probably a 10th degree black belt. The unknown dude is what would scare me not someone like Junior for example.
A Marine who didn't drink much but what he did he couldn't handle his booze? Hopefully he upped his tolerance level while in Pullman, WSU can do that to a man. Its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. If you have the skills to take a bigger man to the ground wresting and/or Jiu Jitsu skills can be great equalizers.

I had the privilege of training with Gil Melendez and Jake Shields during my time in the Bay Area. Completely opposite fighters. Jake wasn't a striker in fact it was painful to watch him try and spar with Gil or the Diaz brothers. But he was a blackbelt and Gracie student who was money when it came to ground game. Gil was a great wrestler and a very good striker but never perfected his Jiu skills.

The bat shit crazy Diaz brothers on the other hand were the total package (when they weren't stoned). They would beat you standing up or rolling on the mat.

Ed, glad you were able to keep the accountant under control. Nothing worse than a bad drunk who likes to pick fights.
 
I failed to clarify my point here. The guy in the red head band wasn’t involved in the initial incident. Luani was yelling, but he was leaving the establishment. Then, head head band guy put his hands on him and pushed him towards the door.

See, for me that’s a no no. The dude was already leaving and he was pissed off. So you’re gonna put your hands on him and push him out. If someone did that to me in the same situation, I would punch them. WTF are you touching me for?

It says a lot about you that if you really go through life like that. I have no problem with Luani giving bandana boy a , "WTF.....get your hands off me you little p#ssy!" I do have a problem with Luani shoving the dude in the face after he was out the door.

You don't have to let other people run over you, but you don't have to punch everyone that shows you disrespect. As I said above, part of being a real man is knowing that you don't have to prove that are a real man to every random dickhead out there. One of the most laughable moments in my entire life was when some OU fan with an undoubtedly tiny dick who lives in the same town as me wanted me to meet him at a gas station to fight so he could feel better about his Sooners getting their asses kicked in a bowl game by USC after I gave him some grief on a message board. That dude caught so much crap on that thread.......... But hey, he would have thrown that punch if he got his chance.
 
Got it . Big no no. Then what ? Clearly you would have already picked the real culprit in this whole event . So not sure what you gain by punching the guy bs the one who would have had his hands guiding u out .
Again, we’re talking about droning
It says a lot about you that if you really go through life like that. I have no problem with Luani giving bandana boy a , "WTF.....get your hands off me you little p#ssy!" I do have a problem with Luani shoving the dude in the face after he was out the door.

You don't have to let other people run over you, but you don't have to punch everyone that shows you disrespect. As I said above, part of being a real man is knowing that you don't have to prove that are a real man to every random dickhead out there. One of the most laughable moments in my entire life was when some OU fan with an undoubtedly tiny dick who lives in the same town as me wanted me to meet him at a gas station to fight so he could feel better about his Sooners getting their asses kicked in a bowl game by USC after I gave him some grief on a message board. That dude caught so much crap on that thread.......... But hey, he would have thrown that punch if he got his chance.
What does it say about me? I'm not talking about 54 year old me. I'm speaking about Pullman me; an 18-22 year old kid, jawing with someone, things getting heated, and then some dude unrelated to the incident puts his hands on me? He gets punched.

You're lecturing kids about "being be real men," when the reality is that most of us have been in situations like those when the testosterone and the booze is racing through your veins. People can virtue signal all they want, but those types of incidents happen all the time. 99% of the time they result in shoving matches or a few punches thrown. It happens.
 
Yea, yea, yea! Like no one else was drunk including the opportunistic bandana boy. You'll never convince me. Not in a million years.
First 14 years ? That makes you old . 😜. Second, everyone may have been drunk. One one hand it is clear one guy is pushing guiding him out . He is the one who had his hands on him. But you are saying he was ok with that guy and the blonds hand on him guiding pushing or whatever verb you want to use .

But the douche bag opening the door didn’t have his hands on him like the other two did. And if he was ok with being guided out why the problems with douche bag touching him ever so slightly ?

And if you don’t think Luani was intoxicated then not sure what you are seeing

Again, we’re talking about droning

What does it say about me? I'm not talking about 54 year old me. I'm speaking about Pullman me; an 18-22 year old kid, jawing with someone, things getting heated, and then some dude unrelated to the incident puts his hands on me? He gets punched.

You're lecturing kids about "being be real men," when the reality is that most of us have been in situations like those when the testosterone and the booze is racing through your veins. People can virtue signal all they want, but those types of incidents happen all the time. 99% of the time they result in shoving matches or a few punches thrown. It happens.
You both have good points. I have no doubt bandana boy said something to him in the process of Shalom (peace?) that was completely unnecessary. Luani shouldn't of hit him and shouldn't of broken someone's nose as well. But, being shoved around while actually agreeing to leave is not an indication of intoxication. Shalom self-reported he had been drinking. Incompetence has a way of bringing out the worst in good people. Waiting 20 minutes after giving someone 30 minutes to get it done will piss my off every single time. 12 noon, no drinks...words to say and NEVER returning to the sh!thole of incompetence. That "mangar" was embarrassed and young people don't handle embarrassment well. It's an acquired skill.
 
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